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What Is Genetic Counseling? | Jaclyn Haven | TEDxHelena


so I get the question all the time what

does genetic counseling mean very few

people know what genetic counseling

means and even fewer people know what

they do so just as a little background

genetic counselors have advanced

training in human genetics and

counseling and we work in a variety of

settings I work here at shoulder

Hospital in Helena in the medical

genetics department and I work with an

incredible group of people I work with

brilliant geneticists a wonderful nurse

navigator other genetic counselors a

nutritionist a psychologist and an

incredible lab staff and together we try

to find answers for families we have a

unique model here at show dare we

actually see most of our patients that

outreach sites around the state

including on reservations so we take our

services to the patients which we find

very valuable and particularly because

we’re able to provide cutting-edge

services to patients who are largely

underserved so have you ever stood there

with your hand on a door handle

repeating in your mind what you’re about

to tell someone and taking a couple deep

breaths knowing that you’re about to

give someone news that will change their

life forever have you ever held a phone

to your ear and paused to hit the last

number knowing that the person on the

other end of the call will hear news

that will change their life forever

these are not uncommon situations for me

as a genetic counselor for me this might

mean telling you that your fetus has

Down syndrome

your newborn has cystic fibrosis your

child’s autism is due to an underlying

genetic condition your parent has

Huntington’s disease you have a genetic

predisposition to cancer and while I

adore working with all of the patients

we see in genetics I’ve developed a

special interest in cancer genetics and

I want to tell you about a patient named

Mary so Mary was reefer

took two Dannette X at age 47 due to her

family history of breast and ovarian

cancer mary’s doctor was wondering if

there could be an underlying genetic

cancer predisposition syndrome and her

family for which Mary could also be at

risk so when I met with Mary

we reviewed her family and personal

histories and based on that information

we discussed her lifetime risk of breast

cancer in her case her number was

greater than 20% which qualified her for

breast MRI screenings in addition to

mammograms so regardless of whether she

chose to test or not her screening could

be altered accordingly at that time we

also reviewed genetics in general we

reviewed the genetics of cancer and that

five to ten percent of all cancer is due

to an underlying genetic predisposition

we discussed various genetic testing

options available to her that it was her

right to test or not to test and what

results if she did choose to test would

and would not mean for her finally we

discussed inheritance and what results

might mean for her two adult daughters

based on our discussion Mary decided to

pursue genetic testing for the two most

common breast and ovarian cancer genes

known as brca1 and brca2 many of you may

already be familiar with the BRCA genes

they work together as tumor suppressors

and when they function normally they

help our bodies prevent cancer

particularly in the breasts and in the

ovaries when there’s a change in one of

those genes it causes a genetic

condition called hereditary breast and

ovarian cancer syndrome or HBOC for

short about 1 in 300 people has HBOC and

if you remember back to 2013 a

phenomenon we now call the Angelina

Jolie effect swept the media Angelina

Jolie went public with her choice to

pursue genetic counseling and genetic

testing based on her family history of

cancer Angelina

wrote that she had tested positive for a

mutation and that she had decided to

pursue a prophylactic mastectomy

since that time

referrals to cancer genetics clinics

have drastically increased testing for

the BRCA genes has doubled and in my

mind even more importantly discussions

among family members were enabled and

that’s exactly what happened with my

patient mary who was sitting around her

holiday dinner table and talking with

her relatives realized that some of the

so-called female cancers and her family

were actually ovarian and that many more

women had been diagnosed with breast

cancer than she’d realized it was then

that she requested a referral to come

see us in genetics so there I stood at

the doorway catching my breath and

rehearsing in my mind what I was about

to say knowing that I would go in the

room and give Mary news that would

change her life forever when I went in I

told Mary that she had tested positive

or that a disease mutation had been

identified in her brca1 gene her

lifetime risk of breast cancer was up to

85 percent her risk of ovarian cancer

was up to 40 percent we discussed

options available to her knowing this

diagnosis including increased screening

surgery and medication management we

also discussed that her daughters had a

50% chance of also inheriting that

mutation from her our role as genetic

counselors is really to promote patient

autonomy or to enable patients to make

their own decision we work within the

patient’s own culture a belief system

level of understanding and expectations

to ensure that they’re making the best

decision for him or herself whether for

Mary this means deciding between

increased screening or surgery in other

cases it might mean helping a young

adult recently diagnosed with

Huntington’s disease which career might

be most appropriate it might mean

helping a pregnant patient figure out

how to manage her very high-risk

pregnancy often it’s helping parents of

a child with autism or other

developmental delays decide which local

resources might help them the most

and so based on our discussion mary

chose to schedule a follow-up

appointment with her doctor at that

point she was scheduled for a repeat

mammogram a breast MRI and ovarian

cancer screening when she was meeting

with her doctor Mary mentioned that

she’d been having symptoms like bloating

and lower back pain which she thought

was due to stress from receiving the

genetic genetic diagnosis he fast

forward a couple weeks and Mary was

diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer

ovarian cancer is the deadliest of the

gynecological cancers and Mary died

within a month of that diagnosis since

that time I’ve been working with Mary’s

two adult daughters who also happen to

be identical twins one of her daughters

wants to know her genetic status and has

indicated she would have a prophylactic

mastectomy if she is found to be

positive the other daughter does not

want to know her genetic status and will

pursue screening based on family history

alone genetic counseling is both

extremely rewarding and extremely

challenging and I think this is a great

example of both we often find ourselves

in the middle of very complex and

difficult situations oftentimes

involving multiple family members and

oftentimes involving very difficult

emotions like guilt and blame mostly we

see love between family and it is a

tremendous privilege for me to be able

to help families through those

situations genetics is continuing to

expand in fact ten new genetic tests are

added to the market every single day

genetics will continue to grow and I

promise it will affect all of us to one

degree or another over the course of our

lives

I hope you consider reaching out to a

genetic counselor who can help you

navigate all that information and often

difficult situations yeah thank you you

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