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Our cities’ global food culture | Tim Anderson | TEDxLondonSalon


first of all I want to say thank you to

TEDx for having me this is a real thrill

for me really really exciting actually

and it’s even more exciting having heard

the other talks because they’ve been

really insightful really interesting so

thank you to my fellow panelists

speakers I got speakers will call him

anyway I cook Japanese food uh-huh and

I’ve been interested in Japanese food

from a very young age that’s another

story but in 2005 I got a research grant

to go and study noodles in Japan the

idea was to investigate the historic and

cultural differences between ramen and

udon and soba and I know what you’re

thinking and yes i did get paid to go

eat noodles in japan but you know i’m

american i went to American University

and our tuition was very expensive so I

had to get something out of it other

than an Asian Studies degree which is

pretty useless let’s be real so I focus

my research on two major sites one was

the soba museum which you see here these

are real these are not joke slides um

the soba museum in a small mountain town

called toka cushy an another museum

called a ramen museum in Yokohama but

the more I traveled around Japan

especially after I moved there in 2006

where I was on working holiday I found

more and more of these food museums all

over the country dozens if not hundreds

of them often they were connected

somehow to agriculture or nature in the

area where they were sometimes they were

based on more modern developments and

sometimes kind of a mix of both like

this sapporo beer museum which is real

and it tells a nice story actually of

how they the japanese moved to hokkaido

the northernmost island and started

growing hops and barley there and

brewing delicious japanese lager but

there’s all kinds of other museums as a

rice museum in a he may there’s a tea

museum and a sushi museum in Shizuoka

there is an instant ramen museum in

Osaka as well as a takoyaki museum there

a champ own Museum in Nagasaki what am I

missing us salmon museum in Sapporo as

well a confection Museum in Kyoto

weirdly Tokyo has no local food museum

there’s one exception actually sort of a

half exception which is the kind of

bizarre salt and tobacco museum which is

owned by Japan Tobacco and apparently

the the kind of tenuous connection comes

from the fact that they were once both

regulated by the same government agency

and anyway they’re two very important

pastimes in Japanese society salt and

tobacco so why not but it’s it was weird

to me because Tokyo is known around the

world for its amazing astronomy and

Tokyo does have local specialties things

like no my sushi you probably heard of

this it’s it’s delicious if you haven’t

tried it really good food some things

you may not have heard of like manga

yaki which is kind of hard to describe

kind of like okonomiyaki if you’ve had

that and I know it looks like well like

somebody ate a bunch of cabbage then

threw up on a hot griddle but it is

really delicious trust me on that so

there are these foods in Tokyo that are

beloved by locals but evidently none of

them are beloved enough are considered

important enough to warrant an

institution like a food museum in fact

what I realized was that actually what

people in Tokyo really love or what

they’re most interested in perhaps what

they most identify with aren’t local

foods but actually foods from around the

world boots from elsewhere so for

example it’s really easy to get good

French food in Tokyo really easy to get

good Italian food there good Mexican

food korean chinese thai indian these

are all very well represented in tokyo

this is letellier from joelle Robuchon

french chef it’s one of several Joel

Robuchon restaurants in Tokyo and also I

should mention that Tokyo will have a

lot of restaurants that focus on food

from around Japan this one is a izakaya

selling food from Hokkaido actually

translates very poetically it says

something like the flavors of the North

a travelogue with sake something like

that and it’s interesting to compare

this to London as well because London is

I think quite similar in Tokyo it’s it’s

it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me

actually because Tokyo

does it’s not a very diverse City it’s

not very pluralistic they’re actually

only three percent foreign-born the

population in Tokyo is compared to say

Hong Kong which is nine percent in New

York and London are both thirty-seven

percent la is forty percent Sydney I

learned is forty-three percent and then

you have oddball cities like Dubai which

is eighty-three percent foreign-born so

it makes a bit more sense in some more

like London and actually I think London

maybe even more disconnected from its

own quote unquote local food culture I

mean when a lot of people think about

local foods in London they may think of

classic British dishes like fish and

chips or pie or bangers and mash you

know all this great British stuff and in

fact whenever my friends from America or

my family come to visit they always they

really want to have fish and chips and

I’m like you know what maybe save that

for the seaside because the fish and

chips in London’s not that good I try to

tell them we’re better off getting ramen

or tacos here because that’s actually I

think more plentiful and more delicious

but they don’t listen we get the fish

and chips they’re disappointed i say i

told you so we go get a taco and

everybody’s happy many ways the fact

that there is a sort of disconnect

between cities and what you might think

of as local food and more of a

connection with each other whether there

you know notice the matter where in the

world they are it’s interesting to me

and I don’t fully understand it but one

thing I think is a good example of this

is the Korean taco so the Korean taco is

a delicious food we can get them a curb

actually known they’re not tacos Korean

burritos there’s a korean burrito stand

called kimchi nari it’s cooked by a

Swedish woman and I think Korean

burritos made by a Swedish woman is like

the most London thing ever i just i

absolutely love it i really really do

but the korean taco started in los

angeles by chef named Roy Choi

korean-american and in Los Angeles it

makes sense it’s kind of a genuine local

food because there’s huge immigrant

populations of Koreans and Mexicans

there and there’s so much so that these

have become just part of the local

culinary landscape everybody eats Korean

food in LA everybody eats tacos it’s

just part of our culinary vocabulary

there

but somehow it’s also a thing in cities

that don’t have these populations and

don’t have much precedent for korean or

Mexican food you can get korean tacos in

New York you can get korean tacos in san

francisco in austin in london in sydney

in amsterdam and i also found in mumbai

this is an ad for a korean taco special

at two sister pan asian restaurants in

mumbai which is very interesting to me

and it says to me that there’s an

exchange of ideas an exchange of

language of food that’s going between

different cities of the world regardless

of where they are and what their

histories or their own you know

homegrown cultures are now I’m a I’m a

big fan of maps any map fans out there

way I didn’t expect the response from

that but I like maps because they

sometimes they simplify they help you to

understand the world you live in like

the London Tube map a very functional

great way to understand just how poor

you are you know by placing your home on

that map but i also like maps that have

a more cultural bent like these maps of

europe from the atlas of prejudice by

yang coats beg of to the tomato you’re a

potato europe map i would say what about

patatas bravas sienko but that good

cuisine bad cuisine map ooh that cuts to

the bone but i also like map maps that

complicate things i like maps that make

me think about the world and see the

world a little bit differently I’ve seen

several these maps that made me think

aha I never thought of it that way in

the past year one of them is this map of

economic mega cities by an economist in

para conor and basically it shows the

relative size of different economies

within their countries and he grouped

cities together because he thinks of

them as one economic unit and that’s

interesting to me I never thought of

that before when i think of economies i

think of state economies in America the

economy of California or I think of

national economies I don’t usually think

of them as being connected by cities or

being based or

cities so seeing Los Angeles in San

Francisco together like that or the

whole Boston DC corridor including New

York as one big unit it’s interesting to

me and look at tokyo and osaka in Japan

I mean it’s massively important and then

of course reflects the sizes of the

populations and significance of the

populations there as well I think what

would be even more interesting to see is

how these mega cities can cross

political borders so you’ve got London

up there and a little bubble inside the

UK and you’ve got rhine ruhr in the in

Germany there but what if those were

combined along with say Madrid and Paris

and the wrong stuff I think that would

be a massive circle in the EU circle

similarly we have this Eurasian silk

road’s map by the same economists which

basically shows how goods and

commodities and money try and travel

across Eurasia the ones that are most

interesting to me are the red and the

brown it’s not easy to make out the

brown ones but those are railroad

railroads and highways because those

will carry people and therefore culture

as well as goods and what’s really

interesting to me about this is first of

all boundary national boundaries are

just ignored the better the borders do

not matter in this map they’re they’re

meaningless basically but also I think

what’s even more interesting is how

decentralize this is you see major

junctions in big cities which are little

black specks on the map but there’s no

one or even two or three sort of central

loci that all of these things flow in

and out of it’s all over the place we

often think of globalization as

something that starts in one place and

then carries on from there like say

Hollywood films from Hollywood to

America than the rest of the world or a

lot of people in East Asia they say that

hong kong shanghai and tokyo are the

sources of globalization and global

culture but it’s actually more

complicated than that now another map or

a series of maps that i’ve seen recently

that I’ve been very deeply invested in

our the electoral maps of the u.s. from

the last presidential election so we

talked about

red and blue states Republican and

Democrat and we I’ve always kind of

accepted that like I think of Oh Georgia

red of course you know Washington yes

blue of course all blue but what’s

interesting about these mess if you look

at them by county is that it’s far more

complicated and they’re actually

basically no states that are blue except

for Massachusetts Connecticut Vermont in

Hawaii every other state that goes blue

only does so because of their big cities

that vote that way and when we talk

about liberal and conservative in

America at least we may as well be

saying urban and non-urban you look at

new york new york you always think of as

one of the bluest of the blue states but

if it was not for New York City it would

be a red state and a few little towns

which i guess like to smoke weed or

something upstate same in Illinois

Illinois Obama’s home turf very very

blue state always been blue but

evidently only because of Chicago on the

flip side you have red states Texas but

the big cities in Texas and there are

several houston dallas san antonio

austin they all went blue just to just

next to texas we have Louisiana where

New Orleans and Baton Rouge are like

blue lagoons and it sort of jungle of

red and to the north we have Kentucky

absolutely blood-red totally red state

except for Louisville and Lexington it’s

two biggest cities and actually I

checked all of the most popular cities

in America how they voted and every

single one of them all of them with half

a million people or more actually went

blue the only exception to this is

Oklahoma City and I don’t know why maybe

they don’t have any good food um and you

know I’m going to come back to London

for a bit in London like I said it

shares a lot with other global cities

and maybe kind of disconnected from the

country that it’s in and that’s how i

feel about cities in America big cities

metropolis is that go blue in an

otherwise red state for example and

london i think is eve

and disconnected from maybe its own

history so jellied eels any jellied eel

fans here no no nobody likes jellied

eels I even met a woman who makes

jellied eels for a living and she told

me she hates them so in London we do

have local specialties just like Tokyo

does there any other city really but

we’re not really that interested in them

unless they’re sort of presented in a

deconstructed almost ironic way this is

a jellied eel dish from duck & waffle

which is actually really delicious as

little vinegar jelly in there and

thinking about this and how how cities

are more connected to each other than

they are to the country’s at there and

kind of made me feel worried and

pessimistic at first actually because I

well there were two things first of all

I worried that we would see a sort of

generic homogenous food culture

spreading across the world and you

actually do start to see that in some

places you go from city to city he sees

some of the same restaurants you see

McDonald’s you see Pizza Express you see

Pizza Hut and that’s sort of worrying to

me like are we losing something in this

spread of global cuisine i was in dubai

a couple weeks ago and that’s where this

idea really struck me because dubai

doesn’t have much of an actual local

population it’s only about seventeen

percent actual emirati so you don’t get

a lot of like really unique local food

everything’s sort of brought in you get

Tim Hortons from Canada you get Apple

views from America you get jollibee from

the Philippines and for me Dubai

therefore ends up feeling a bit like an

airport food court with nice weather but

the other thing that word means that big

cities are going to feel like they need

to extract themselves and be independent

from the countries that they’re in

because they don’t share a common

culture anymore they’re not represented

politically which I don’t I don’t want

to happen i’m sure a lot of you didn’t

support breaks it and voted remain and

woke up and thought well we’ll start our

own country then screw you will do our

own independence thing I kind of felt

that way but nobody really wants that we

still have connections to the rest of

the UK even if we don’t feel like it we

have family we have friends we have

businesses that we deal with all over

all over Britain so nobody really wants

that but I was still feeling a bit

hopeless about this and how to sort of

reconcile

this big cultural divide especially

thinking about food and I thought about

my own hometown thought about where I

grew up I grew up in a town called

Racine Wisconsin small town about 80,000

people very white about two-thirds white

no major immigrant population or ethnic

populations there but even so in Racine

Wisconsin first of all that’s where I

became edged in Japanese food from

watching TV and also if you look at some

of the most popular restaurants in

Racine Wisconsin their tie their Italian

their Mexican the Chinese like they’re

actually quite outward-looking and this

is not a cosmopolitan town by the way

we’re known mainly for our cleaning

products you guys ever use febreze

that’s us but even the supermarket in in

Racine I was shocked last time I went

there because there’s an isle of I think

world foods they call it you can get

three different kinds of sriracha sauce

there and many kinds of tortillas and

Latin American products it’s incredible

so I thought I realized you know it

doesn’t matter where you are or where

you’re from you know in big cities we

tend to have more access to and more

exposure to international foods and so

we tend to come to love them quickly and

accept them quickly but that doesn’t

mean that they’re exclusive to us I

think quite the contrary people all over

the world no matter where they are are

going to be drawn to something that’s

new and exotic just like I was when I

was a teenager in Racine Wisconsin I

think honestly you know I don’t know

where the sort of globalized culture is

going to take us ultimately but I do

think it’s gonna at least in terms of

food and the things we eat give us more

in common and more of a shared language

actually I think that deliciousness

really knows no boundaries and I believe

that delicious food can bridge great cultural divides thank

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