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How communities can support teachers through innovative housing solutions | Gregg Garn | TEDxOU


thank you I really appreciate the

opportunity to speak with this group and

what I want to kind of lay out today is

the way in which the strength of

communities and schools are incredibly

intertwined and the way that I want to

do this is to first identify a couple of

the challenges that I see and you’ve

seen a lot of these but let me sort of

crystallize those for this group but I

don’t want to spend a whole bunch of

time there I am much more interested in

solutions so as I lay out a couple of

the challenges we’ll talk about

solutions and I would love to sort of

connect with this group because I think

I’ve got the basic sort of elements of

some ideas but I think with this group

we can get some amazing things done so

the first slide that I have up here is

the picture of the first president of

the University of Oklahoma David Ross

Boyd when he took the job he actually

took this job sight unseen and so he’s

got off the train he saw a really

incredible challenge no faculty no

students and not even a single building

to teach him but that didn’t deter him

he actually looked at that as an

opportunity to create something special

but I think in education were sort of at

that same crossroads so we have lots of

people that are really questioning what

is what are we getting for what are we

getting for our money what’s the value

proposition associated with education

and we see some incredible challenges

coming out of that so let me lay out the

challenges a little bit this is a slide

that shows the difference in salary

between 1994 so the national data set

1994 to 2015 and what we’re comparing

here is the average graduate of a

college of education to the average

college graduate so a two percent gap in

94 has grown to a 12 percent gap in 2012

so to put that in perspective in 30

States if I am the single breadwinner

I’m a mid-career teacher I’ve got two

kids and a spouse

that stays at home and helps to raise

kids my kids actually qualify for free

and reduced lunch at the school that I

teach they qualify for government health

care because salaries have sort of

bottomed out so low so people don’t get

into this business to get rich but when

in thirty states you qualify for free

reduced lunch your kids qualify like

just think about some fundamental

questions just just for a second I want

you to reflect should teachers be able

to buy a house should they afford a

house in this in the school district

that they teach should they be required

to work a second job so that they can

should they be able to save enough so

that they can send their children to

college without assuming huge amounts of

debt increasingly those are challenging

questions that teachers are having to

deal with because the compensation

levels have come down in really pretty

drastic ways but it’s not just the money

it’s the think about the the sort of

perception of teachers and what it is to

be an educator I would argue that if you

if you think about sort of asked this

question 20 or 30 years ago you get lots

of people that would talk about respect

pillar of the community a teacher that

had a huge impact today increasingly the

conversations that I’m engaged in is

teachers sort of get framed as stuck in

the status quo part of the problem not

willing to change and grow and move

forward that has a huge impact because

one of the things that I increasingly

and concerned about is teaching is seen

as closer to the service industry than

it is as a profession and I think that

will have devastating consequences on

what we’re trying to do in strengthening

communities going forward so let’s bring

this down even another level we’ve had

lots of conversations about specifically

what’s going on in the state of Oklahoma

and I just want to crystallize this for

people in this group so this slide is

based on National Center for Education

data and it looks at the percent change

of funding that the state is providing

per pupil between 2008 and 2015 we’re

not in a good spot there folks like

that’s not where we want to lead there’s

a lot of places we want to lead and

that’s not it so the consequences of

this is Oklahoma is now 50 out of 50 if

you just look at salary and compare

teachers across the United States dead

last now if you include total

compensation and you build in health

care benefits and retirement benefits we

bump up to 48 but the two states that

have been below us Mississippi and South

Dakota have done increasingly things for

teachers the last couple of years so

what I’m really afraid of is by the time

the data cuts catches up and it’s

published will be 50 out of 50 any way

you cut it that has some pretty bad

consequences for attracting and

retaining teachers so let’s move it even

more locally this is a picture of

students in the Rainbolt College of

Education and you see in the very back

what it says there

Plano Public Schools so Plano by just

about any measure is a thriving

community they have been able to attract

really good businesses to locate there

they have an affinity in the audiences

from Plano but socially there’s lots of

good stuffs going on there I mean they

are doing amazing things in attracting

families and businesses so the reason

that I show you this slide is is we’ve

got lots of students who clearly are

listening to what Plano has to say if I

am a and I actually went up and was a

little awkward but sort of grab their

materials to see you know what’s getting

the attention here Plano Public Schools

salaries start at fifty to fifty two

thousand it depends a little bit on your

area your discipline in eighty percent

of districts in the state of Oklahoma if

I have a doctorate and I have 25 years

of experience or more if you follow the

state salary scale

I make forty six thousand dollars think

about that gap for a second between what

I can make my entire

career with a doctorate versus no

experienced first-year teacher what do

you think great people are going what do

you think that builds into that local

community so the consequence that we

have seen in Oklahoma is a phenomenon

called emergency certifications and

again you guys have seen these headlines

let me give you the picture behind it so

we had a thousand last year and we’ve

already had a thousand emergency

certifications this year an emergency

certification the image I want you to

have is a substitute teacher they meet

the same requirements so again I’m going

to ask you to sort of imagine a little

bit think about the transformational

substitute teacher that you had in your

educational career okay so there’s

probably a different image that you

might have with that substitute teacher

the leading area that emergency certs

are working in our schools is elementary

education so these least prepared folks

are teaching kids the fundamentals of

reading how to do math science like that

doesn’t add up to a good future for a

lot of kids in fact about 40,000 that

are working with these folks okay so let

me stop for a second and pivot to how

are we going to change this thing but

first I want to clarify the logic good

thriving community is connected to a

strong school system a strong school

system is based on great teachers

professionals who are prepared with deep

content knowledge in the subject that

they teach a scientific understanding of

how people learn of managing behavior in

classroom of motivation that’s what

great teachers look like so that those

are sort of the dots that I’m connecting

now what I’m excited about is let’s get

there let’s flip the script in terms of

those are the challenges let’s not get

stuck there so in study Ned policy for

about 20 years now there’s a couple of

things that I want to share with this

group the first one is think buffet

not one perfect recipe if I and the the

image that I want you to have there

is every communities can be a little bit

different different strengths and

resources and connections and so if

there’s a buffet of ideas that they can

take in and tailor that’s the metaphor

that I want you to hang on to it is not

one right policy that works perfectly in

every community so buffet not recipe the

second thing I want you to think about

is how important education is for

democracy like whatever the economic

outcomes are that that’s sort of a given

right if you can have a strong economy

you’ve got to have people that come out

and can do the work but what about for

democracy people need to be able to read

and think to be good strong participants

in a democratic society another idea

that I want you to think about it’s just

the complexity of the problems that

we’re dealing with if you only leave it

to teachers to fix you’re not going to

get anywhere you have got to have

public-private partnerships and people

increasingly with different perspectives

that can come together and solve or

better manage some of the challenges

that we see in our schools

another component increasingly that I

think about is we have got to do a

better job of scaling what works and

eliminating what doesn’t like tradition

we’ve always done it this way cannot be

the answer for a lot of the things that

we’re doing we have to be able to pivot

from some of those things and then again

spread like wildfire the things that are

working the last idea that I’ll sort of

put up here I need to be a little

careful with I do not want our federal

and state government to abdicate

responsibility because equity is huge

and they need to play a role in making

sure that different communities have

basic levels of support but increasingly

I am personally convinced that the

community is the right answer it will be

the people in this room connecting with

your local schools and your communities

that allow them to thrive we can no

longer wait for other people to solve

these problems

so with that foundation let me tell a

couple of ideas and again this is the

general idea what it needs is

modification for lots of different

places one of the programs we have in

the rainbow college of education is

called debt free teachers real simple

concept

you graduate from the College of

Education you teach in Oklahoma in a

high need area and we forgive up to

$5,000 of your higher ed investment each

year for four years up to $20,000 people

put down roots in those four years

communities grow people stay in the

state some of our best teachers we

actually have 60 participated in this

program we’ve helped OSU and you co to

start similar kinds of programs but

communities could do this as communities

are thinking about competitive ways to

attract and retain great teachers they

could do this similar kind of a

variation the next idea that I want to

show is the concept of Community Schools

in a lot of our education policy we get

so complex and we miss this very simple

idea if a kids basic needs are not being

met you can’t get it the academic needs

here’s what that looks like if a kid is

being abused if a kid is chronically

hungry

if a child is constantly dealing with

mental health or physical health issues

to simply give them another sheet of

algebra and expect it to improve totally

the wrong answer

so what if we thought about schools as a

hub to connect professionals to the kids

instead of it being the responsibility

of the kid or the family to find that in

the larger community what happens if we

actually find them where the people

where the kids are so we actually have a

study right now where we’re looking at

36 community schools in the Tulsa area

to really amazing outcomes early on in

this research one teacher satisfaction

has gone through the roof I think about

it for a second right I mean if I’m a

teacher and I actually get a teach and I

don’t have to be the parent in the

physician and the social worker the

second outcome that we see that was I

think a little bit surprised us a little

bit is a dramatic decrease in student

mobility so many kids and families are

absolutely on the edge of being able to

stay where they live like it’s a

constant sort of

movement as they as they make or can’t

make rent what we see for the families

is even if they get pushed out of the

place that they’re living they are

making a conscious decision that their

kid remains in the boundaries of that

Elementary School and that’s a totally

different decision than we see in lots

of other families where you have

children that are bouncing across

multiple schools in multiple districts

in a single academic year it is tragic

for the kind of academic performance

issues if you don’t get a teacher that

has that sustained ability to work with

that kid okay here’s another idea and

I’m this is where I need lots of help

I’m on thin ice here I’ve got the the

basis of an idea

I need smart people to help me out with

this so think about a hundred years ago

in this state many others a big part of

the compensation for educators was we

provided a house right place to live

whatever other challenges were out there

what would that look like in the 21st

century right I mean there’s sort of

this fundamental if you have communities

that have higher percentages of owners

versus renters you typically have a

stronger community so how do we connect

teachers in our communities to houses we

have a pilot program in the College of

Ed right now where we’ve got a group of

17 students that are participating in a

United Way financial boot camp the goal

is to get them a 660 credit score by the

time they graduate it’s not a huge

threshold you just have to be purposeful

about it when they graduate if they have

that 660 they qualify it for the

Oklahoma Housing Finance Authority’s

dream home act up to a $250,000 house

with a 3 to 5 percent down payment

requirement immediately teachers can

begin to build personal wealth by

investing in a house what are the other

variations of this could you think of

maybe a Community Foundation coming

together and providing a down payment

match in exchange for recruiting a

teacher into that community

could you imagine a city that is dealing

with condemning houses on a consistent

basis thinking about almost a variation

of habitat

for Humanity where we’re fixing up those

houses in providing them for great

teachers that are gonna live in our

community there are any number of

variations I mean again I could imagine

almost taking the idea of a

rent-controlled house in New York City

so if you think about what that

essentially does is it limits the risk

and it limits the reward but but if I

get my money back out of it that might

be the right mechanism for teachers in

the local community a variation of

section 8 housing like there’s all kinds

of ideas that we could imagine out there

but the fundamental concept is we need

great teachers communities need to step

up to be able to attract and retain

these teachers so as I sort of closed

down here I want you to look at this

picture and read this quote for just a

second this is again David Ross Boyd

reflecting on what he saw this is

actually the image he saw this is in the

the second edition of sooner magazine

so this is the challenge that he saw

and this is the foundation that he

provided for all of us that’s what I’m

challenging you to do today you might

not see the benefits of the seeds that

you plan in your local schools in your

local communities in your lifetime it

might not be in your children’s lifetime

but I don’t want you to think in that

kind of a time frame I want you to

invest in a future that you might not

benefit from and I know that’s a huge

ask every one of us today is benefiting

from exactly that same thing and that’s

what I challenge you get involved in

your schools take a field trip go make

up go make up your mind for yourself get

a sense of what the opportunities and

challenges are and then jump in and help

to solve them thank you so much [Applause]

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