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Exploring Eternity | Dave Gallo | TEDxSMU


first of all I should tell you I’m not

an academic thoroughbred and I grew up

in a blue-collar family in central New

York didn’t think much about the oceans

mom and my family was Italian so I’m

more like a cross between Jacques

Cousteau and Tony Soprano and in that

regard

you know you might appreciate my passion

for the sea but you wouldn’t want to see

me in a speedo I promise you so we’ll

start with this of the earth and I show

this for a couple of reasons and one is

it’s an empower ‘fl image you know when

you look at that’s our planet everyone

that’s lived on this all of our

ancestors lived here in the future our

children and our children’s children

will live here you know it’s our home

and the other thing is we take it for

granted a lot of Technology and brain

work went into bringing us that image of

Earth it’s snapshot this is a very

dynamic planet it’s always changing

everything changes the face of the earth

changes the climate changes that’s one

thing too is we take it we think that

because we can see it we can understand

it and we don’t and part of the reason

why is because most of the ocean is that

that’s most of the planet is that it’s

ocean 70% of the earth is covered with

ocean and this is the Pacific Ocean so

we just rotate the earth around take the

clouds away and there you go it’s a big

ball of blue average steps about two

miles maybe two and a half miles and you

can’t snorkel that deep you can’t scuba

dive that deep you’ve got to have

technology and the technology just

doesn’t exist we don’t have GPS doesn’t

work in the ocean

radio waves don’t work in the ocean

there’s no light once you get below

about a thousand feet so all these

things that we always joke with the

space by people that friends that work

in space that you can see eternity in

space at the ocean you can’t see your

hand in front of your face from here to

Mars it’s one atmosphere difference and

but but go to the bottom of the sea and

it’s like thousands of atmosphere is

different so the pressure is crushing so

it’s enough and as a result to this date

we’ve only explored about 8% of the

world’s ocean explored meaning go there

for the first time find out what’s there

for the first time that doesn’t mean

understanding

that means just what’s there and that’s

amazing because that really means we’re

living in an unexplored planet by I say

what I say we’re living on the planet

seven billion people live here and most

of us about half of us live right up

against the coastline within about a

hundred miles of a coastline around the

world so we’re really packed against the

edges of the continents and we move back

and forth across that ocean we’ve had

done that forever you know some more

successful than others but the oceans

have been an obstacle but they’ve also

been a pathway for human evolution in

progress it’s not a big blue fish bowl

so when we go to the bottom of the ocean

it’s not like flat muddy like a lake

there’s a mountain range out there it’s

an incredible mountain range that’s the

Atlantic Ocean and right down the middle

of the Atlantic Ocean you see it like

like a snake it looks just a mimics the

North America and in Africa the shape of

it does they fit together along that

mountain range it’s all volcanic it’s

got thousands of peaks on it higher than

the Rocky Mountains and even the vilius

it’s got thousands of valleys many many

times wider and deeper than the Grand

Canyon

it’s got life there that we never

thought would exist there because it’s

so deep so dark so inhospitable and we

find incredible amounts of life in fact

life that rivals throughout the tropical

rainforest so we have this amazing thing

at the bottom of the sea that it’s the

most dramatic everything on the planet

there’s rivers that run through it

there’s underwater Lakes there’s

underwater waterfalls and normally right

here I would be dazzle you with pictures

of jellyfish twinkling and all sorts of

animals but I’m not going to do that

this time I want to talk to you about

another project that we were involved

and that involves everything that I just

told you about so I often get the

question I retired in January a

miserable failure at retirement so I

took a job I left Woods Hole took a job

at Columbia but I’m still doing my woods

old job and my Columbia job so but

people say where’s your favorite place

on earth to be and I always have the

same answer it’s the truth my backyard

my garden that’s where I like to be

there’s a lot of wonderful places on

earth and one of my favorite things to

do is on a summer day

get my hammock and when my kids were

young I’d have my two boys with me and

we’d watch in the mid-afternoon all the

planes going from North America over

there to Europe and the convoys of them

playing after playing with the vapor

trail about the back and I would always

tell my boys they’re up there seven

miles up that’s how deep the ocean gets

seven miles deep and they would say and

sometimes we’d have binoculars and we

try to pick out which plans they were

and they say well daddy but if one falls

on us and I would say no planes don’t

fall out of the sky they just don’t

don’t don’t you don’t need to worry

about that

June 1st 2009 I was in the hammock and

my wife came out and said a plane just

crashed in the middle of the Atlantic

Ocean and it was an Air France plane

going from Rio to Paris

it was God it was Air France flight 447

232 people on board and I knew there’d

be a search and but it was French plane

and the French are excellent

oceanographers well back to jakku still

but they were very good at working in

the deep sea and so they were out there

looking with the Brazilians and and they

looked for a couple of months and found

nothing and so right away the media got

involved and said this plane will never

be found and then the government started

to echo that the planes lost forever we

don’t know what happened to the people

on board the plane and so my wife kept

saying to me are you going to get

involved thinking no it’s not really our

role and then I started to see the faces

of the passengers and hearing the

families talk about their loved ones

they want to know what happens to their

what happened to their parents what

happened to my children and it really

started to get to me because we know

that mountain range at what toll we’ve

worked there for decades and of mountain

range I gave up the next slide I’ll show

you in a moment and so finally I went

into woods all I asked the boss I said

to her do we want to get involved in

this she said well you can try to get

involved so I said alright packed my

bags my little laptop off i went to

paris to one of the committee meetings

and met with the heads of the b EA

that’s the french NTSB and i think they

looked at me like I was some

three-headed monster because you know

who is this academic

egghead coming here to tell us it they

can find the plane better than we can

well so that’s the track of the plane

Air France flight 447 and sure enough it

stops right over the top of that

underwater mountain range so here’s the

thing it’s not only deep water it’s

about three miles deep there it’s the

same depth as Titanic but on top of that

mountain range that I said that mountain

range is more rugged than the Grand

Canyon or the Rocky Mountains it’s more

rugged than that it’s not unusual to

have mountains that go up and down three

miles with landslides and volcanoes

erupting and lava pouring out and all

sorts of stuff going on so it was so wet

and when you go there to search for

something you’re entering an unknown

world we don’t know what we’re going to

find so to find something that there you

have to actually go into this unknown

world and try to the realm of Poseidon

and try to find this thing but we were

able to make the case that in fact we

did work in that mountain range for ten

years the luxury we had over the French

team that was looking is that they were

forced to go out right away get out

there and find it and they didn’t and we

had some time to think about it

there are pieces of the plane found it’s

the fin of course the galley anyone the

Flies will recognize that piece of the

galley floating around and all told we

had that those are all bits of the plane

and sadly some bodies that were floating

on the surface of the Atlantic Ocean

they were picked up over a course of a

couple weeks the question is where did

they come from

because the winds moving them around the

currents are moving them around and

they’re spread out all over the South

Atlantic and so we need to define the

haystack and more than the haystack

where’s the x marks the spot

lo and behold there was a committee

formulated in France with about ten

people on that committee we knew that

the we knew the last-known position of

the plane we knew the plane was airborne

for four minutes because it was sending

distress calls it didn’t have the

latitude where it was but it said we’re

you know these things are strange about

the plane so we had a circle in four

minutes so we drew a last location in

four minutes so we were able to draw

that circle that you see on the bottom

of the ocean read by the way here is

shallow that’s the top of a mountain

blue is deep that’s about three miles

deeper the modelers

and okay we know within probably 98%

sure that that plane is in that box you

see in the upper left-hand corner of the

circle 98% sure

so we mobilized our team out we went and

we had two months to find the plane in

year one so two months we went the first

month went by didn’t find the plane

second month went by and the pressure

started building as the day’s ticked on

the weeks ticked on the media started

saying these guys are shams they’re not

going to find a plane the families were

getting very upset understandably so the

comfort the countries Brazil and France

saying you know hey you know the modeler

said it’s there and you haven’t found

out what’s going on and then we come

down to the last weekend I was sick to

my stomach is mild to say it was

horrible the pressure was intense

we didn’t find the plane so luckily and

that was terrible but luckily after this

expedition to try to find the plane we

went to Titanic where we knew her

Titanic was and with new technology we

were able to make the most incredible

map of Titanic ever made before and in

history and we were able to take that

back to France and say look we’re pretty

sure that the planes not in that box and

of course the modelers got upset and I

asked we had two modelers that were part

of that 10 person committee and I said

how sure are you guys that that plane is

in that box and they said well we’re not

sure that we don’t think the planes in

that box that’s it well why did we spend

two months looking in the box they said

well was a committee and some people

thought the plane was over here and some

people thought the play was over there

so we drew a big buy I said I don’t know

they said well I said where do you think

the plane is and they said we think it’s

right near at the last known position so

we were able finally to get the

confidence of the families the

confidence of the government and go back

out here and with one boat that’s called

it’s a Lucia and three very new robots

that you see there and I want to tell

you right here if this is not about Dave

Gallo you know I happen to have the

privilege of standing up and sharing

this with you the people that are heroes

here like in many cases our names you

never hear Greg Packard Mike Purcell

Silva and passcode people and those are

guys are women too

that went out there to see that I

already spent two months out there away

from their families in horrible

conditions and now we’re about to go out

for three more months and spend trying

to find the plane with no no there’s no

reward at the end of it all that they

were doing it because they wanted to

help bring some closure and relief to

the families so this is a ship we went

out with we went to that spot and lo and

behold after about seven days there was

a smudge on the sea floor that’s an

image made with sound but it’s very

peculiar you can see it stands out that

little smudge in the middle it’s about

six football fields long and one

football field wide and so we told the

robots go back and take a picture of

that and lo and behold there’s the two

of the engines and the landing gear of

Air France flight 447

now I had just left the ship in Brazil I

was going to take the second of the

three months and I was stopped in Miami

he was just pulling in our driveway at

home and my phone rang and it was the

ship Mike Purcell and ship saying we’ve

been successful I and I was just about

in the same position I looked up in the

sky and there were the planes going over

to to Europe again and it was an

incredibly satisfying moment because our

work instead of being something esoteric

like what do these mountain ranges doing

over the next 100 million years we were

able to help Society

immediately so the next thing we did was

we wanted to bring back a map because

the trick was to find the black boxes

and so this was akin to looking for

something the size of two shoeboxes in

the Rocky Mountains at night with a

flashlight not easy to do so we took

85,000 digital images and made a map

that we were able to turn over to the

investigators the B EA and they sent

another ship out and lo and behold again

there are the black boxes one on the

upper left of two boxes that’s the

flight data recorder in the cockpit

voice recorder and the information was

still on there after two years so this

was your number two and so that was

amazing to me and and we had some

discussions after that that this you

know they said you’ll never find the

plane that planes lost forever and

mostly when a ship sinks in the deep sea

even today we still say we commit

the ship or the plane and the souls

aboard for eternity to the deep and now

here we are we’ve crossed into what we

call eternity so it makes you rethink to

what eternity might be so this was good

and it was not cause for celebration but

it was a moment to reflect on what this

means to the insurance companies to the

aircraft manufacturer Airbus to Air

France and to mostly to those to the

survivors the families of the victims of

this air crash and the thing that made

me happy was I thought we educated the

the airline community about how

difficult it is to find something at sea

and that never again should we allow a

plane to criss cross across the ocean

without being tracked every minute even

after a minute it’s difficult to because

they’re moving at about ten miles a

minute and that’s a big area to search

and when are they talking about that

deep in that rugged and everyone agreed

and then this came along Malaysian

flight 370 on the way from Kuala Lumpur

to baking still missing this was March

8th 2014 the team and there’s been a

team of people out there three boats the

Australian Transportation Safety Board

is running the survey the teams have

been out there they’re getting the

nameless people but out there day and

night for two years and they just came

in to wrap up the first the first part

of that survey and I know how they feel

they feel horrible you know they’ve been

out there all this time because you

start to have self-doubt did we miss it

did maybe the equipment didn’t work

right what do we do next where do we

look if it’s not there where’s the

haystack and so they’re going through

all of that now and the only comfort I

can give them is to tell them that the

plane didn’t leave the planet most

likely so it’s out there and it’s just a

matter of regrouping and going through

all the evidence again find a new

haystack and go look for the sake again

of the aircraft manufacturers and the

Malaysian Airlines but also most

importantly for the 238 victims of their

families and loved ones that’s where

they’re looking along that arc it’s it’s

when they’re done it will be the most

incredible map

were made in terms of area covered on

this planet no one’s ever made that kind

of a map of the seafloor just an

incredible bit of work I just did the

snapshot yesterday at this time just to

give you’ve never seen how many planes

are in the air this is called

flightradar24 so it gives you a snapshot

and I think at any given time there’s

thousands of planes that are Criss

crossing the oceans and in this case

it’s morning so they’re coming from

Europe to North America and then the

afternoon that switches back and they

had from from North America back to

Europe it’s an incredibly safe mode of

transportation it really is it’s it’s

nothing to worry about in fact in two

hours I’ll be hopping on a plane back up

north but what I think the important

message here is that on this planet you

know we’re learning to understand that

the ocean is important to us sometimes

we go there because our curiosity drives

us there we want to know about the life

that lives there we want to know about

things like climate change weather

patterns rainfall patterns all those

things you know the oceans give you

every other breath of fresh air that you

take comes out of the sea two billion

people on the planet depend on the

oceans for food and almost 90 percent of

the rainfall is determined by the ocean

waters about where the heat is and

humidity isn’t not so it behooves us and

so we go because of curiosity but

sometimes we have to go because of a

plane like Malaysian air 370 or Air

France 447 but and thankfully we can go

today no shipwreck or airplane that’s

lost at sea is beyond our reach but it’s

thanks to the ingenuity of people and

the dedicated dedication of people that

build the robots that could take those

robots out to sea and make them work and

are willing to go out there 24 hours a

day for months at a time in harm’s way

to bring back information for us I’ll

leave you with a quote from Marcel

Proust and he said that the true voyage

of exploration or discovery is not so

much in seeking new landscapes which we

do but in having new eyes and in this

case technology has given us new eyes to

see

into the sea and for once actually be

able to penetrate into what we used to

call it turn ‘ti thank you very much [Applause]

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