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Chasing the Wrong Lead | Dirk Philipsen | TEDxDuke


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as I’m apparently the last person wow I

can’t see you to speak can we give it up

for the wonderful students all backstage

who have put an enormous amount of work

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so I’m going to talk to you about some

big questions if I may big questions

that were partly raised by a student of

mine in a class that I teach on the

history of capitalism and she asked this

very simple question to which i did not

have an answer which was how do we know

we’re on the right track how did we do

we’re doing well so how do we so when

you look around today wouldn’t be

particularly novel to say that we are

facing as Americans and as citizens of

the world enormous problems and

challenges they range from political

divisions to conflict to climate change

to inequality and so on and so forth so

what I’m going to do today is suggest to

you that all of these problems or at

least many of these problems have in

fact a common cause and a common origin

so that’s quite a claim so bear with me

and I want to try to clarify this at

first with a couple of questions so when

you look at this column of very

different things I would argue that they

all have something profound in common

what might that be what they have in

common is that according to the metrics

we use to measure success in our society

they all contribute to well-being now

let me put up another column

I again a number of very different

things and they too I believe have

something profound in common and you

might already into it an answer which is

of course that they actually contribute

to well-being but the more troubling

answer is that none of these things are

measured and the metrics we use in order

to define success in our society that is

the problem so since that is true i also

would argue that what informs policy

making politicians business leaders

economists in terms of making decisions

from the small to the large about our

society is essentially informed by the

column on the left and not by the column

on the right so what is the central

problem here the central problem is I

think that our metrics of success are

defined largely by growth and not by

well-being right we look at transactions

in the market not relations we look at

quantity not quality we look at output

but we don’t look at outcome that is a

big problem now how do we define growth

what is growth and interestingly enough

this is a question that really is asked

in politics we just know that it’s good

so how is it measured and of course many

of you have heard this and many of you

see it every day in the newspapers it is

measured by GDP which stands for gross

what does that mean it is a particular

kind of measure that is interesting in

part because it is a measure that is now

worldwide every single nation on earth

with the possible exception of Bhutan is

measuring its success with GDP it’s the

only ideology I know that is literally

universal independent of whether

countries are large or small rich or

poor developed or underdeveloped

authoritarian or democratic all follow

this metric why is this a problem this

is a problem I would argue because

number one it’s a terrible metric for

wellbeing it is not even a particularly

good economic metric why is that well I

give you some some some examples for

that first of all it doesn’t

differentiate between costs and benefits

it can’t tell you whether something is

good or bad that we’re doing in the

economy so it doesn’t tell you whether

you know buying a pack of cigarettes or

buying you know buying a bicycle whether

you build toys or whether you build

weapons it makes no difference all of it

is measured equally in GDP it also tells

us nothing about inequality so when you

read in the newspaper per capita GDP of

our country it doesn’t tell you anything

about how this is differentiated between

rich and poor in fact as in the United

States increasingly the top can be very

rich and the bottom makes no gains for a

long time and it still looks very good

so what GDP does one way to capture this

is to say that it measures the goods

life and not the good life it is what

Robert Kennedy in 1968 already said when

he said you know GDP in short measures

everything except that which makes life

worthwhile there’s another problem with

GDP which is that it doesn’t take into

account the future at all it says

absolutely nothing as in terms

what we’re leaving behind for future

generations a fairly famous entrepreneur

by the name of Paul Hawkins once said it

steals the future sales it in the

present and calls the GDP so what

everybody advocates here is not just

linear growth it is actually exponential

growth which is another problem with GDP

so I don’t want to go through all of

this but what this just says you know

when you start with a base year of 2000

which is the year that many of my

students were born when you go to the

year in which they will likely retire

something like that 2070 you would

already have to have an economy that is

putting out 16 times as much if you took

what economy is considered to be a

healthy growth rate of four percent and

of course if you go all the way down the

line 200 years after my students were

born you would already need output that

is 4,000 times as much as we’re

currently producing in this economy now

if you consider this to be somewhat

insane you would be right the problem is

that this is precisely what informs top

decision-making among politicians

policymakers economist business leaders

around the world who tell you

essentially that what we need is this

kind of growth this will solve all of

our problems prosperity and progress

there’s one way to show what this

actually means this is a really powerful

set of graphs and I’m not going to have

it up very long but you should look at

it at some point and so what this

essentially says is on the left we have

exponentially increasing human activity

and on the right we have increasing Hugh

echo system destruction and what it

essentially says is that the two are

correlated right we can’t have one

without the other and so one of the

things that happens is of course that we

are undermining the very natural

economic growth is now pushing us to the

edge of the cliff when while it might

have been a good thing in the past it no

longer is it is an anachronistic thing

now this personally I personally think

that nothing in dangers the future

well-being of young people more than

this and I’m not even talking about the

planet the planet will be fine with or

without us and I’m not also talking

about the politics of it all and our

proclivity to elect people into power

who may not always be particularly

competent I am just simply talking about

the survival the our survival as a

species on this planet this keeps me up

at night I am I have four children I

love my students and yet we’re all

they’re all we’re all making them

passengers on the train racing towards

the cliff in fact we teach them and

educate them to be good passengers on

the cliff on the train we tell them that

their success will be measured by their

contribution to speeding up the Train

literally and very often we don’t tell

them about the cliff in fact we as

Americans today have the dubious

distinction to be gone

by the only major party in any developed

nation on earth that effectively denies

the very existence of the cliff so what

do we need to do we need to

fundamentally stop the train and we need

to lay new tracks we need to focus on

development rather than growth we need

to focus on better not more now this is

not to say to clarify that i am against

development in fact i am very much for

development rather than growth

development that takes into account the

satisfaction of human needs of actual

human needs and i also realize fully

that there are lots of people in this

world still who need growth who need

more opportunities more jobs more

education in fact one of the saddest

statements of this growth regime is that

we live in a world in which two billion

people are still living in dire poverty

which in absolute numbers may well be

more than ever before so for young

people in particular I think it is time

to retire whoops GDP as grandpa’s

definition of prosperity it is time to

let go of it and the reason is very

simple the reason is that it is our the

moral imperative for all of us to leave

behind a world that allows young people

to prosper not just us the analogy with

your bodies is by the way quite good

because obviously we all grow until

we’re about 20 but if somebody told you

at 20 that you needed to take hormones

and calories in order to continue to

grow in both size and height you would

probably think that person is a little

crazy but if you lived in a society in

which the entire health care system was

premised on the idea that you could only

be healthy if you kept growing you would

probably be right to think about moving

but that’s exactly where we are with our

economy that’s exactly what is happening

we are being told that we need to keep

growing even though we know we live in a

finite planet and even though we know

this is not going to change not not

possible the climate change of course is

just one of the many ways in which we

can see that we’re running out of time

but here’s my central argument this

regime of growth while it has created

unprecedented dangers also has created

unprecedented opportunities we can stop

that train and we can redirect it and we

can start focusing on actually

satisfying human needs now the great

thing is we already know a lot about how

to do this the great thing is also that

everybody can contribute because there

are more meaningful ways to engage in

economics and in public policy making

and in engineering and in biology in

order to create things like closed-loop

production or renewable energy centers

and so on and so forth so in the end I

would say that this there’s a lot of

good rewarding things good good

rewarding things that we can do and I

would suggest that it’s probably better

than just simply being a quiet passenger

on a train racing towards the cliff so

let’s just go do it thank [Applause]

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