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To Avoid Economic Decline, America Must Age Gracefully | Marc Goldwein | TEDxJHUDC


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well good afternoon everyone I’m an

economics professor here at johns

hopkins and as such i wanted to talk to

you about what is probably the single

largest most serious economic challenge

probably of our time and certainly for

your generation and that is the aging of

our population over the next few minutes

I want to talk to you about I can figure

how to get my clicker to work over the

next few minutes I want to talk to you

about how America as a society is

getting older about how that aging if we

continue on our present course is bad

for retirement security harmful for the

federal budget and fiscal policy and

ultimately slows economic growth and

then so this isn’t all about the dismal

science I want to give you an optimistic

note of how instead of aging as we are

today we can age gracefully and instead

of economic decline age for gracing

graceful aging can lead to actually more

vibrant economic growth more vibrant

retirement security in the future so

first of all it’s abundantly clear we

know the demographics America is getting

older looking just back to nineteen

eighty there was just over 20 million

people above the age of 65 in the United

States now there was only 20 million

senior citizens of the United States

today it’s more like 50 million and as

we project forward we’re headed towards

100 million and not only are the number

of seniors growing but their age is

rising as well if you just look at the

chart behind me you’ll see the number of

folks that are above age 75 above age 85

even above age 95 is increasing as a

share of the elderly population now

there are a few things driving this one

is we’re living longer how many folks

know what the life expectancy was when

the Social Security Act was passed in

1935 it was aged 65 it was actually a

normal retirement age at the time if we

go back to 1900 over a hundred years ago

the average life expectancy was only

around 50 the average life expectancy

for those that reach 65 and that wasn’t

all that comment was only about 77 years

old today the average life expectancy is

is 80 and if you’re lucky enough to live

to 65 the

life expectancy is 85 people are

spending 20 plus years in retirement and

every year and this is a good thing by

the way every year that life expectancy

is growing every year we’re living

longer every generation is living longer

than the one before it but by the way as

we’re living longer we’re not working

longer in fact is as we look over time

we see that we’re living longer and

longer and we’re retiring earlier and

earlier the most common age people

retire is now aged 62 the most common to

just 62 that’s the first time you can

collect Social Security now some folks

retire at 65 when you can collect

Medicare some folks retired 66 or 67

Social Security’s normal age but on

average people are retiring at 63 63 is

the average retirement age that’s way

down from even 30 40 50 years ago as

we’re living longer we’re retiring

earlier and here’s the kicker not only

are we living longer and not working

longer but our fertility is weighed out

so previously yes we were living longer

but we were always having more kids more

workers to replace the old the older

ones we’re always having more people

coming after the generation in order to

fund our economic growth in order to

fund our senior citizens historically

the United States in the United States

couples have had about three kids per

couple writer there’s been about three

kids born for every woman that’s above

replacement that’s it that’s a level of

fertility that allows for economic

growth and that allows for population

growth briefly after World War two we

had a baby boom the baby boom population

and we were having about four kids for

every couple but since then things

crashed right and basically since the

baby boom population came into this

world that fertility rainy night States

has averaged right around replacement

level which is two people for every

couple that means for every one person

they’re going to have one kit that’s

enough to keep our population stable but

it’s not enough to keep it growing

growing population of workers to pay for

our seniors add all this together and we

have a situation where our dependency

ratio or our senior dependency ratio is

declining over time just looking at the

Social Security system back in nineteen

fifty we used to have 16 workers paying

in

for every retiree pulling out for every

retiree receiving benefits but fast

forwarding to 1960 when the program is

more mature we’d five workers paying in

for everyone retiree receiving benefits

that meant that each of us in this room

would have to pay twenty cents in order

to give one dollar to a senior that’s

not so bad twenty cents out of your

income for a dollar of senior income

today there’s only three workers for

every retiree which means that each of

us has to contribute thirty-three cents

for every dollar a senior receives and

over time by 2035 there’s only going to

be two of us paying for every senior in

other words two people have to split the

cost of the senior that’s fifty cents

each of us have to contribute just for a

dollar of senior income this declining

ratio of workers to retirees is

problematic for a lot of reasons and it

brings me to my next point which is

aging is bad for economic growth aging

is bad for society we need to do

something about it first of all our

population aging not death panels but as

there are other options we’ll talk about

first of all population aging is

problematic for retirement security if

people are living longer but they aren’t

working longer it means they have less

savings available to finance their

retirement your choices then are you

need to either consume less during your

working life and then save more or you

need to stretch the same amount of

savings over more years it’s a lot

harder to retire for thirty years than

415 you need a lot more savings to do it

secondly our aging population is

seriously problematic for our national

debt so today in our new president

entered office with a higher debt

relative to the economy than any

president besides Harry Truman right now

dead is seventy-seven percent of GDP

which is a record other than during

World War two overtime its projected to

double by 2050 even under current law we

expect it to double as a share of GDP

this is more than entirely driven by the

aging of our population it’s more than

entirely driven by the rising cost of

Social Security which is our senior

retirement program and Medicare which is

our senior health program in fact if

those two programs just grew at the pace

of economic growth we would have the

declining debt ratio fiscal policy the

united states would be stable and this

isn’t just

a problem for the debt it’s a problem

for these specific programs social

security in particular is self financed

people pay your payroll tax into Social

Security and then other seniors receive

benefits from that trust fund in the

past especially in the 90s we had more

paying in than we had pulling out we had

the baby boomers in their prime working

years contributing payroll taxes and a

relatively small senior population so we

built up a surplus built of a trust fund

about three trillion dollars now every

year we’re drawing from that trust fund

by sometime between 2030 and 2035 that

trust fund is going to be empty there’ll

be no money left in it at that point the

law says every one of the program

doesn’t matter if you’re rich or your

poor doesn’t matter if your age 62 or 92

everyone in the program sees their

benefits cut immediately by twenty

percent now we can prevent that but to

prevent that we basically need to make

adjustments equivalent to over 11

trillion dollars in today’s dollars

that’s our unfunded obligations all of

this to address the effect of the aging

population on the Social Security system

and perhaps most importantly as we age

we’re experiencing a permanent slowdown

in economic growth historically there

have always been booms and busts but the

United States on average has grown about

3% from year to year half of that was

labor force growth 1.5 of that three

percent was the fact that each year more

people were entering the labor force or

working more hours now we’re only

projected to see that labor force growth

at half a percent a year so instead of

one and a half percentage points growth

from labor force we’re getting half a

percent and that means our economic

growth is going to slow and in fact

already has slowed from three percent

year to year to two percent now that

might seem like a small difference but

over time it accumulates and it’s quite

significant it could be the difference

between a prospering society and one

that’s just holding on luckily it’s not

all bad news just because demographics

is destiny we can’t stop aging but what

we can do is address it what we can do

is learn to age gracefully and I would

propose a three-part plan that will get

us most of the way there part one is we

need to reform our immigration laws part

two we need to fix of Social Security

and part 3 perhaps most importantly we

need to change the way we think about

retirement we need to change our

retirement culture so let me go through

these in order very quickly first of all

if your problem is you have too few

workers for retirees part of the

solution should be to try to have more

workers per retiree we could do that the

old-fashioned way but that requires a

big boost in fertility and then to wait

18 to 30 years before we actually get

the labor participation right a much

quicker fix for this is to increase the

number of especially young and

especially skilled immigrants coming

into this country but to increase the

total number of immigrants this will

boost economic growth this will secure

or this will strengthen our trust funds

this will improve the debt situation and

this will help to rebalance our

demographic situation in the immediate

term now I want to be careful this is

not a permanent solution because

remember if we bring young workers in

eventually they too were going to be old

eventually they too will be on the wrong

side of the dependency ratio but what

immigration reform can do is buy us time

is buy us a more gradual transition to

the young population we used to have to

the older population we’re already

starting to have so immigration is step

one but step two is we should be

treating basically the biggest symptom

of our aging population which is the

decline and ultimate insolvency of our

social security system the thing is

fixing Social Security is actually

incredibly easy if instead of speaking

about aging I just negotiated with all

of you a social security reform plan in

my 18 minutes we’d have about 14 minutes

left to spare okay you go to Social

Security reform org you can design a

Social Security reform plan there’s only

a few lovers we can boost the social

security retirement age we can slow the

benefit growth maybe just for higher

earners who don’t need it as much we can

increase the amount of income coming

into the program maybe by increasing

income subject to the social security

payroll tax cap the solutions are pretty

straightforward the politics are really

hard but I promised if our politicians

come together and agree on some

compromise a I think they’re gonna get

more thumbs up the middle fingers as my

old boss L Simpson used to say but be

the economic benefits will be huge no

longer will we have an

solvent social security system no longer

will we have a rapidly rising debt and

on top of all of that workers will have

clear signals about how much to work how

much to save and invest and how to plan

for their future right now they have

none of that that brings me by last

point which is we need to start

rethinking retirement the old way of

retiring was got a job at age 20 or so

you worked until age 63 or so and then

you retired into something completely

different you know you moved to Florida

or you moved into a smaller home that

doesn’t work anymore that’s that’s that

makes sense in a manufacturing economy

that’s not very dynamic it doesn’t make

sense in our modern economy that’s

increasingly both service and

information based doesn’t work in our

uber economy where you can have ten jobs

or one job it doesn’t work in an economy

where people can move fluidly from job

to job and don’t even have to be in the

same physical location we need to

rethink retirement yeah some people

should still retire at age 62 or 63

maybe earlier others could stay at their

exact same job until age 70 or 75 or 80

and if they’re happy doing that we

should be encouraging them to but

there’s a bigger group of people that

fall into need these neither category

neither do I want to quit exactly at age

62 nor work until 150 years old right

there’s other options though you can

transition into retirement phased

retirement maybe you switch from

full-time to part-time you can move to

consulting you can retire then come back

you have an encore career have a

consulting career there’s no reason

retired firefighter can’t open a bar or

become a bartender there’s no reason

that a retired real estate agent can’t

teach at a community college teach

business at a community college there’s

no reason that somebody that’s been a

mechanic for their whole life can’t

start doing aviation consulting we need

to stop thinking of the labor force is

one fixed job with one fixed choice do I

work or do I not work and start thinking

about it as a breadth of choice where

each individual makes the best decision

for them and our economy and our

economic policy welcomes those decisions

now if we can do that I suspect one

people will work longer and I suspect

they’ll work longer in much more

flexible ways and the benefits of that

would be huge first of all we see a big

uptick in economic growth these are

estimates from the Congressional Budget

Office this is basically the official

scorekeeper of the united states

government and they say if everybody

just works one year longer the economy

will eventually be two and a half

percent larger if everybody works three

years longer the economy will be seven

percent larger and remember this doesn’t

have to happen all at once this can be a

gradual change secondly working longer

is good for workers the longer you work

the fewer years you’ve got to take care

of yourself in foreign retirement and

the more savings you will have to do so

with again these are some estimates of

how much money you’d have if you just

put a typical amount into a 401k say

5,000 a year depending on your age of

retirement if you’re tired at 62 you’d

basically be able to spend twenty six

thousand dollars a year that would be

your income if you just retired at 66

you’d be able to spend thirty five

thousand retiring later is good for

workers at least for workers that are

able and by the way the literature on

this they’re not Universal all points in

one direction which is that working

longer and working in more flexible ways

is good for folks wealth it’s good for

their health and it’s good for their

happiness there’s one study that

basically says if a worker works a year

more they can spend ten percent more

each year for the remainder of their

lives that’s a much happier retirement

right ten percent more they actually

looked at low income seniors and found

it was more like fifteen percent more it

also turns out we’re healthier when we

work longer both mentally and physically

and were happier we’re more satisfied

when we worked longer humans weren’t

meant to do the same thing their entire

life and then just one day stop right

humans are dynamic and we live in a

dynamic society we’re meant to be able

to fulfill our to use our skills to the

best of our ability and to fill our own

goals of happiness that doesn’t happen

with some binary retirement system this

is the good news the good news is

there’s a win-win here right if we think

the way we retire if we fix our social

security system we increase immigration

to manage the transition we don’t have

to have economic decline we can age

gracefully

and we can achieve economic prosperity

thank you very much [Applause]

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