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deconstructed where we take a list that
we’ve already done and break it down
entry by entry to talk about each one
and give you a little insight into our
thought process around here today’s list
is the top 10 disappointing games of
2017 so let’s take a look at the
original ranking all right so welcome to
deconstructed let’s take a quick look at
our panel today with me is Ricky the new
guy it’s up and Andrew who’s no longer
the new guy by default there we go these
guys both work in the video game
department with us so most of your age
is directed at at least one of us
indirectly yeah yeah mostly this guy
anyway uh let’s jump right into it
Friday the 13th the game not the old one
the new one because this is 2017 and
that’s we’re talking about broken broken
it’s so like the Melissa for example if
we’re not talking about worst games for
2017 we’re talking about disappointing
disappoint and this game was just too
ambitious for such a small indie team
because it needed to be a horror
multiplayer game and that’s just
something that you can’t do because your
community is just gonna mess that up and
not take us seriously no no like listen
they okay people will always try to mess
with your game that’s that’s a fact and
but listen dead by daylight exists
that’s a game that works very similar to
this actually in terms of how it flows
and stuff and that’s by a pretty small
development team – if I’m not mistaken I
just think it’s more like okay this game
had a shadow to come out from under
because it was another Friday the 13th
game and it’s a licensed game you know
Friday the 13th for NES obviously one of
the most ridiculed games of all time we
were just trying to play it at launch
though and it was buggy like it was
buggy and the server’s didn’t work yeah
it was just it was underwhelming to say
the least
just the animation were crap it looked
just jagged and
didn’t flow at all and remember guys we
are talking about disappointing we’re
not gonna totally drag these no because
you know it’s it’s a lot of fun to play
and it’s a lot of fun to watch and it’s
a great game for streamers it’s just it
could have been more than just a
sideshow yeah it’s a sideshow that’s a
fun distraction see this is what okay I
got the sense that this game was like
the second wave of games that have been
made with let’s players in mind like we
had like last year in the year before we
had like you know the surgeon simulators
and what else we had like Octodad and
stuff like that which is clearly made
with those streamers and minds scream
streamers if you want to call them that
so I feel like this is the next wave of
that type of game and in that sense I
think it kind of succeeded because like
I think it got like a lot of like a lot
of press that way I wanted to read one
cool comment not the least not the least
because he’s got a pretty sweet name
Curt cocaine says yeah wait Friday the
13th the game is disappointing because
of bugs is there anything else you’d
like to complain about
perhaps the repetitive nature of the
game the lack of game modes and maps I’m
a fan and I’ve been addicted to playing
it since it launched and even I can
contribute something to this video while
making your selection worthwhile video
feels sort of lazy okay
criticism taken this is actually a
relatively good comment yeah yeah it’s
hard to find these companies this is
actual constructive criticism of our
entry so I’m not actually going to
refute it Thank You Curt cocaine for
Thank You Curt criticism okay let’s go
on to number nine
Valkyria toward evolution which is not
related to the how they talking to game
at all no revolution yeah at all
actually I mean it’s it’s a it’s
separate from the other Valkyria titles
in the timeline and the way it’s
presented but it’s the cutscenes or
15-minute cutscenes back of the head
also they don’t have to animate the
mouth yeah exactly they skipped out on
that and you don’t want to be watching
15 minutes of some anime girl’s head and
if you skip them you missed the whole
story so you can’t even fast forward so
there’s that and then there’s the just
the gameplay it’s generic yeah it’s
it’s a pet of hack-and-slash I mean it
doesn’t feel like there’s any strategy
behind it and that’s like pretty much
all Valkyria chronicles had going for it
right like I mean yeah the original
series like I’m a big fan of the
turn-based strategy slash RPGs like Fire
Emblem XCOM recently divinity original
sin yeah my favorite this year for sure
so I think it’s a shame that this game
wasn’t in that vein I know I’m assuming
executives speak says that you that
those games don’t sell and like they’re
hoping to hit like a larger market which
is I think a problem with just
franchises but you’re an isolating
you’re yeah it’s an base so at what
costs yeah it’s it’s trying to clearly
expand the fan base but I think they
just diminished it unfortunately yeah
yeah they took the name and they dragged
a little bit through the mud not a lot
of comments about that one I guess
people thought many people were as
disappointed as we were I guess they
expected it maybe okay they just agree
with that all right let’s steer this
conversation over to our next entry
shall we
that’s gonna make sense in a second so
for Gran Turismo sport I’ve got another
comment here and dr. for gone killer 96
said he basically wrote our entry for us
it’s it’s pretty it’s pretty harsh
because once again we got to say this is
this is why it’s on the disappointing
list and he goes Gran Turismo sport is
far from disappointing it looks great
I’m gonna skip his bracketed part here
you know it also is getting a full
career mode like the last iterations
including endurance races it’s getting
more cars possibly up to 4,000
the only thing doesn’t have the only
thing it doesn’t have his tracks but the
track selection is fine for an eSports
focus game it’s also getting offline so
you can save offline now he used the
word getting like three times he
basically just listed off all the
features that we then get yeah and that
we didn’t get yeah and explained why
it’s a disappointment like a discussion
over
no because they crashed the game today
yeah and the the patch that came out
today
added a lot of those features that he
was missing on the big one was offline
campaign right yeah yeah which is
something people are clamoring for but
the game is not that old the game came
out in October and
well I’m not condoning releasing a game
before it’s finished right and patching
and features in afterwards the focus of
this game was towards being an eSport so
they sort of tightened the game up quite
a bit and really emphasize that aspect
of it and then the fact that they’re you
know adding to it and bringing these
features slowly back in to me makes this
one this doesn’t really belong on the
list I don’t think this is particularly
disappointed really self I think it I
think it redeemed itself especially with
the content and event they’ve added a
few more cars well I think mr. doctor
for gone killer 96 PC would agree with
you but it I don’t know man this the
points he’s brought up make perfect
sense for why you’d be disappointed also
you said that like this a lot of these
changes are a pivot towards eSports like
does racing games don’t have any sport
they needed one okay this game it that’s
what this answer hardcore and shit here
so there’s so hard to love driving yeah
they love this Mario Kart right this is
this this is forza these are these are
games that people want to be really
really good at good at to show how good
they are to be like look how unforgiving
this racing game is all I’m saying and
this is the last thing we’ll say on this
because I’m the boss here is that like I
can understand why fans would be
disappointed if your favorite gaming
franchise decided to pivot towards
eSports fair point
sure fair point but I don’t move next
next and ruling on entry there we go
Marvel vs. Capcom and finish we’re
talking about a buggy launch I’m not I’m
not defending this one oh man they they
walked back so much fun stuff no three
players no no there’s no excuse me no
three fighter tournament mode yeah
that’s weird I don’t know why they take
that out that’s like a staple of the
franchise I am thinking it was technical
limitations I think the game probably
puked if you tried to do that that’s
that’s my we’re in 2017 guys a seven it
shouldn’t be an issue no I think and how
like a giant open-world you can have six
character swapping it’s not it’s it’s
it’s it’s ridiculous it’s either lazy or
but I mean it’s it’s a fighting game ran
as long as you can like pick your
Wolverine and go in and fight some
people well that’s but that’s another
problem I mean like the previous Marvel
vs. Capcom games yes you knew that was
you were baiting me their previous smart
Marvel vs. Capcom games you get access
to the x-men and even the Fantastic Four
and all that stuff my brains been at the
very first this game is a spin-off of
x-men vs. Street x-men yeah there’s a
street fighter yeah so Wolverine is in
that one
Greene’s been in it since day one yeah
and you know what we perfectly
understand like the licensing
regulations like Fox owns the x-men and
Fantastic Four so they can’t appear in
something that’s an official Marvel
property but from a gamers perspective
that just kind of blows dude yeah it
it’s like even the storyline with the
whole Infinity stones it feels like
they’re just setting up that next
Avengers movie it felt like it was
trying very hard to just be another
facet of the MCU yeah exactly and I
think I think that’s what they wanted to
do I mean they want to bring it into the
light they want to build the hype around
it and so they pushed it out as this
like extension to the story funny story
when we were ready three this year they
were playing it on this huge screen and
below it they had Ultron Sigma which is
like the combination of you know Mega
Man X is filling Sigma and an Ultron
from the Marvel Universe
anyway amazing display and mid
tournament between two players became
blue screens like in front of all of e3
I mean all of you three wasn’t watching
that one thing but it was you had look
it tried to watch the extra character
those three characters really yeah yeah
yeah it was when they patched it out
yeah did a Warhammer 40k Dawn of War 3
now I used to really play I never even
bothered with this one because you know
call me a shill I read the reviews and
they made a pivot towards MOBAs like I
mean you know we’re talking just before
about like having a franchise that you
love pivot towards eSports this is my
sore spot like okay I understand that a
real-time strategy
games on their way out be MOBAs okay say
they started production of this game in
2014-2015 MOBAs are the hottest thing at
that point yeah the pivot kind of makes
sense especially if you’re a suit if
you’re an executive 2017 rolls around
realtime strategy games are still very
dead and people are sick of MOBAs like
if the poor guys working on this game
must have known people would have been
pissed off
like do you was anyone anyone out there
viewers you guys clamoring for another
multiplayer online battle arena game
with your favorite printer with your
favorite franchise yeah it wasn’t even a
full-blown mobile yeah it was just like
yours of course assembly of everything
it’s just thankfully we did get a pretty
cool work or hammer strategy game is
here wasn’t for UK but no more heavier
battle war – is the game that I’ve been
playing on stops yeah came out so I have
that so we got to plug that at least
alright so shadow of war yes okay I know
you have something to say about the
Battle of war yeah yeah yeah shadow of
war yeah okay I know you have something
like as if we didn’t prep before the
show anyway the thing about shadow of
war is there’s two games this year that
came out where we played previous
versions of them about two or three
years ago and you and I were saying like
man these games all they have to do
they’re definitely gonna make a sequel
so they just have to make it just a
little bit bigger a little bit more
content and it’s sold we’ll talk about
the second one on this list a little bit
later but shadow of war what happened I
was so pissed off at this game like you
know how much I liked the first one the
first one was just an enormous amount of
fun but no content criminal lack of
content yeah
Andrew was really really upset when he
he finished the game he was like fuck
that game I thought oh I thought they
were still like another I thought it was
halfway through the game yeah and it’s
like press X to kill Sauron no so this
one I was super excited this is the only
game this year that i pre-ordered
because I swear I wasn’t gonna 2017 I’m
gonna produce i pre-ordered shadow of
war and I was so Dean really good game
really fun all of that stuff is still
there but they just bloated the hell out
of it right here they did an assassin’s
creed your your criticisms aren’t really
related to the loot boxes I
I know I don’t give a shit about the
loot boxes they didn’t bought like I
don’t mind buying them but they didn’t
know they were not my problem with this
case you didn’t get that far you didn’t
get cuz I didn’t get too angry yeah you
know I was just I was just I Trey was it
just was a slog and you know all the fun
the combat is still there the AI is
fantastic the orcs are super interesting
the orcs are the best part of the game
they should just make a game that just
sim orc sim shadow of war orc I would
play the hell out of it you get to keep
their heads on this time yeah yeah but
it was just there was just too much crap
the whole game feels like like the
tutorial never feel it never ends you
know they’re always just introducing new
stuff I was learning in I need you don’t
care about anymore and there was just
way too many balls to keep up in the air
and it was getting in the way of the fun
they went way too overboard so like they
they turned it a little bit too far to
the yeah they turned into Assassin’s
Creed they went from Arkham City or
maybe Arkham Asylum you know like a
tight game or everything and it has a
reason to be in it and then they turned
it into assassins creed game it’s just
bloated way too much crap hmm Ricky
thought I mean I can get behind that
having being overwhelmed by gameplay and
things that aren’t even core to the
series or to the fun of the series well
there’s always that moment when you’re
starting a game especially a big
adventure game like this where you’re
kind of eager for them to take the
training wheels off and just let you go
of course I mom and that just never
seems to end in shadow before no never I
bought a new video card for this game
I’m so disciplined and I think it’s
still a good game and I will go back to
it but I was so this is for me the most
disappointing game of the year well okay
so now it comes time to pit it to
something that’s a little more this is a
bit sadder we’re not actually ripping on
the game we’re sort of just ripping on
the circumstances of the game yeah I
don’t know if you can guess actually
it’s probably like right there on the
screen I’m not sure where it is but it’s
it’s right there it’s the next one you
see it coming let’s talk about it anyway
lawbreakers yeah robbery cos now we got
some comments for this one both of them
pretty much carry the same sentiment I
would play lawbreakers if I could
actually find a match and turtlenecks
says the reason for lawbreakers is kind
of sad and it is
it’s actually really sad cuz the game is
named school gorgeous I mean it looks
beautiful it was really is a good
experience now the only thing that I
think is hampering it down aside from
the player base it’s like it’s more of
the same in terms of we have overwatch
and that’s taken a large chunk of people
away from these other titles these kind
of like cartoony shooters these
team-based shooters and you think you’re
getting in trouble for saying it’s a
little too similar to overwatch I don’t
I’m not saying it’s exactly overwatch
but I do think that it shares that whole
dynamic the whole the mechanics of the
game like it looks like it plays like oh
so how badly do you think this was hurt
by the fact that very early on people
were saying that no one was playing I
feel like if that becomes the discourse
around her multiplayer game it’s
literally instantly dead I heard a lot
about this before it came out no there
was not much marketing done and I think
that their main the main icon they used
to portray the game something called
dead zone and it was like what you see
when you die and when it came out it was
just brushed over even though it again
it looks great and it plays great
there’s there’s nothing there’s there’s
no excitement about it and I think
they’ve missed a mark with with that
chance I feel like it’s kind of like all
right first of all I don’t think it was
marketed very well no I don’t think the
just the brand recognition and the
exposure for the game before release I
think was pretty bad and I think that
heard it a lot but I also think that’s
sort of it ties in to the art style I
think you look at like an individual
still and that looks great yeah but it
also kind of looks like what they put on
the box for your new 3d card that’s like
supposed to be yeah from a video game
it’s like video game art but it’s not
from any game because it’s just generic
and I think this game kind of suffered
from how like there’s some really cool
and beautiful art that’s gone into it
but at the same time I feel like it’s
like visually you can’t look at a single
thing and say like that looks like it’s
from lawbreakers
you look at stuff created for other
games and I hate to draw this comparison
again because people will be upset but
you can go like that looks like it
should be an overwatch battleborn had
that problem last year battle board its
branding looked so similar people kept
confused
it an oversaturated market you do have
to push even character development and
have a face or a couple of phases that
are associated with your your game
probably the saddest entry yeah it’s
disappointing in the most in the most
truly disappointed sense if that could
have been so much and maybe there’s
still time I think there is I think so
too I’m I think this game will have legs
but it’s always going to be the underdog
unfortunately you come regan lately
there’s one that Dave yes a guy who we
work with in the video game Department
one of the stalwarts was really looking
forward to this he always wants banjo
kazooie on our retro list back the
Kickstarter I think he was like a high
tier backer and he was really good shit
I think he got like yes he got some he
got a t-shirt or something
haven’t seen him wearing it yet he has
no well he’s not so happy with it I
think see this is a good example of a
game that was almost too faithful in its
recreation for those of you that don’t
know it’s a spiritual successor to banjo
kazooie and you know it’s a good
collectathon actually you know what I
have a comment about this let’s go it’s
alright so dark chaos taxi says ukelele
should be nowhere near the top of this
list I can understand giving it a
mention because of the scope of the game
being slightly similar but it got way
too much negative press the game is just
fantastic
and tickled the nostalgia perfectly most
complaints were about being ver about it
being bugged which it was patched fairly
quickly I might add or because it’s a
collectathon all caps that’s what it’s
supposed to be also might I add for
another time that the complaints in this
video were actually really shallow in
comparison to the other dishonours
despite it being so high on the list
didn’t agree with the order I think now
you want to talk about why we placed it
so high because I think there was a lot
riding on this like oh yeah you know
talk about press and brand recognition
first of all not only did this game gain
a lot of hype but it’s really easy to
spot the characters even like okay you
show some of the side characters you
might not go like oh that’s from ukelele
but emblematic branding from day one and
a built-in audience what I was gonna say
was that like I just feel that this is a
great example of the game that copied
over a lot of the tropes and fit and
gameplay elements that were in the
predecessors that have technically that
are not necessary anymore
in a game like this you know well they
tried to mimic it instead of like taking
not a genre but a style of game that
worked in the early 2000s and adapting
it in the way say like an ex-con what do
right or modernize exactly mmm is a
better example or modernizing it they
replicated this early 2000 style of
adventure game almost too closely
exactly I mean it’s yeah it’s an
original title and if people were
backing it on kickstart and put their
money into it and we’re excited about it
and they kind of got this recycled
beautifully recycled but recycled
recycled you don’t really hear those
words together yeah I mean let the game
looks great and the art styles green
it’s vibrant and and it’s it’s got this
nostalgic throwback but it’s not enough
to save it from all of its flaws and I
guess that’s why it’s it’s on the list
it’s disappointing it could have been it
could have been awesome and it was it’s
a fun thought experiment when you look
at an old game that was a classic and
you say like if this was released today
would it be popular yeah and it’s just
like a lot of things that we were used
to when we were playing the n64 have
been kind of fixed yeah and like when
you tolerated it back then but shouldn’t
necessarily have to tolerate it now oh
and it’s also in that’s why it’s so high
on the list too is because this game had
more it’s almost flattering to the game
yeah that it’s number three almost yeah
exactly because there was definitely a
market for it okay so funny story for
viewers at home when we were prepping
our end-of-the-year lists so
disappointing worst and best game of the
year there was a big discussion over
whether or not we should leave a blank
spot for best game of the year for Star
Wars Battlefront because it hadn’t come
out yet needless to say we didn’t have
to swap anything around on the best
games of the year list No
the other one but I think this is
another great example of disappointment
it’s not necessarily a flat-out broken
product and I think it’s competent what
it’s trying to do okay I you know what
what do you guys think okay so here’s my
thing with it obviously the progression
system from the outset was completely
broken with the battle pole not pulling
any punches Ricky no it was broken and
the dilute boxes I mean I feel like
they’re taking advantage of the
playerbase by saying okay you got to pay
for this you got to put in like 40 hours
to get a skin your your it’s it’s like
almost like abuse because they know that
the Star Wars name carries that weight
and they know that people are gonna go
out and get it anyways EA knows that and
so when you’re doing that you’re
treating us like idiots and you’re
taking us for granted and there’s a
reason why that reddit comment is the
most downloaded one in history because
people and gamers who are analytical
look through and see these shallow
attempts at taking your money and and
exploiting your time and it just I mean
again the game itself obviously isn’t
horrible it’s not horrible it’s a point
experience and a lot of people from the
comments that I’ve read as well yeah I
got tons of comments here we probably
seen them on screen as I’m talking right
now yeah technology if I like a lot of
people love it they’ll agree care about
the loot crate’s and if you don’t that’s
okay what I go out when I played it was
that like it really did feel like the
game was skewed towards these things
like they actually they did the thing
that people have been complaining about
forever but hasn’t quite happened this
idea that like the loot boxes will
actually result in pay to win mechanics
that that like it will they will
actually damage the gameplay by
implementing these things that’s a real
shame and it damage the gameplay almost
immediately because as soon when you
jump in and you get killed by somebody
cuz you see the star cards killed you
see the rich I don’t want to play a
shooter a multiplayer shooter where the
other person’s using the same gun as me
but their gun does more damage or the
other person just is the same class as
me but they’re taking less damage or
faster or their grenades I don’t want to
play a multiplayer shooter that has
those kinds of mechanics in the game if
when there’s unlocks and customisation
like in battlefield games or Call of
Duty is supposed to be sad even death
exactly it’s sideways and this game is
not a step sideways it’s the more you
play the your Starfighter will do more
damage than the other guys Starfighter
this game isn’t it’s not so much a
disappointment to the battlefront
franchise it’s a disappointment to
gaming mmm hot take of the day and this
was you know we were talking before
about games where we were just we saw
the last one we say okay this is not
perfect but if they make a solid sequel
and learn from their mistakes then we’re
just gonna have a great game and I think
you’re right in what you’re saying like
they knew that they just had to tell
everyone that they’re adding more
features throw in all the era’s make it
look pretty
it’s Star Wars and people are gonna buy
it because we are those people
that’s literally that was me it’s us I
was gonna buy it yeah and you know I
think it’s it speaks volumes to that to
how popular this work this whole
franchise is like that we were we had
confidence in it we were just like I
think this game is gonna be good I’m
really hoping for a lord of Destruction
Diablo 3 no lord of Destruction Reaper
of souls kind of turnaround where they
can take their licks and release an
expansion or some patches that really
just kind of turns it around and like
fixes what was broken but I honestly
don’t think it’s so much like because
you know they turned off the
microtransactions right I don’t think
it’s as easy as just flipping a switch
no there there’s gonna be some balancing
issues I know a lot of you like it by
the way so if you’re typing that you’re
having fun with it like please we don’t
have to bond clean that’s fine it’s
supposed to be fun yeah we don’t want we
never want to suck the fun out of your
life to be bad we don’t look at a game
and be like oh I hope this we are gamers
yeah and supposed to be fun yeah okay
here we go
numero uno Mass Effect Andromeda now I
know you’re a big fan Andrew Ricky you
can play in Mass Effect games not
recently not recently
the new one for obvious reasons yeah
well I mean like we Andrew and I both
have n7 gear and fans but like okay game
did have big shoes to fill
I think it’s a good example of okay I’m
not defending the game fully cuz there’s
a lot of things that are wrong with it
like there was the animation thing and
the writing kind of sucked and the RPG
mechanics were kind of simplified
there’s just there’s tons upon tons of
things telling to pull apart yeah III
don’t think they made the sell properly
way before the game came out that like
it’s time to return to Mass Effect this
is a new Mass Effect game to get pumped
for AI at no point was I watching
trailers and I was like oh my god Mass
Effect’s back who cares about Shepard
blah I was sort of like I guess I’m
gonna like this because I like Mass
Effect but those were my thoughts going
in I think this is a good example we
were talking about how law breakers was
probably hurt by the fact that you if
the first thing you hear about the game
isn’t that no one’s playing that’s very
bad yeah and this game was really hurt
by that whole animation row like that
how the game could was accessed EA
access people could play it week early
and the just the shots of the horrible
janky animations came out I think that
sunk the game right off the bat even if
it were to be an amazing accomplishment
after that but that was a nice
jumping-off point I think for people to
just rip on it well it reminds the
integrity of the whole thing I mean you
see something that’s supposed to be a
triple-a title with the legacy of Mass
Effect and it kind of just looks jaggedy
it’s not flowing and there’s there’s
there’s there’s no reason to keep
watching it and to keep indulging
yourself in and it just takes you away
from the experience so I mean yeah it’s
gonna take a hit you know we expect we
expect beautiful things we expect to
look at something and for it to be for
realistic and when you don’t see that in
a Hallmark franchise like this it does
kind of take away from the the whole
excitement of it now there’s some really
good articles out there as to how like
as to what went wrong like they had to
switch it like the engine was just not
made for an RPG like they had to like
restart production at one point I don’t
want to misquote these articles so look
them up yourselves but I think we own
that they had because they put a few
more diverse characters in the animation
suffered because that’s how game
development works you know they have
like a whiteboard and it’s like nice
animations character diversity and
they’re like gotta pick one right the
social justice warriors ruined Mass
Effect that’s they happen that’s totally
what happened right these are facts
because that’s how game development
works you use like oh we have to have
like people’s like colors so we can’t so
so it’s just like I guess we’re gonna
have to fire this animation team trade
offs trade offs trade offs yeah we are
being heavily sarcastic here by the way
I hope that’s clear it is yeah no no no
man problems of mass effect is like
people just had really myself included
had just really really high expectations
of the game because it’s not like an
indie studio making this game no it’s
following like a huge incredibly
successful really well beloved franchise
and it’s like a new jumping-off point
like a spin-off series yeah for a new
franchise and it just didn’t live up to
anything that the original Mass Effect
did it just the combat wasn’t as diverse
and fun even though they tried they just
oversimplified it too much the
characters just weren’t as strong the
storyline wasn’t as compelling the
writing wasn’t as good like it didn’t
reach any of them nothing was quite
there yeah and it’s a shame I remember
playing Dragon Age Inquisition which I
wasn’t crazy about but I was like man
can’t wait till they make a Mass Effect
game with this engine but uh careful
what you wish for because apparently
that engine really worked them yeah big
shame do you think we’ll ever get
another route a good Mass Effect game I
think I think they’re gonna wait for the
fire to die down yeah they’ll it is a
triumphant return I mean that I mean
they’re in position to do that but or it
could go down the sonic route and just
keep getting worse oh man let’s it’s too
big for franchise like Sonic was a
popular character Mass Effect is to
expense it cost too much to make them as
effective they’re gonna they’re gonna
wait for the fire to die down and then
they might not might not even be sequel
to Andromeda oh I I I think they’re
gonna expunge – a third that that name
is going there
yeah motive ends Ramadan nobody’s visit
nobody’s there
oh man anyway I guess that brings us to
the end of our list guys um Ricky yeah
Andrew thank you so much for joining us
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deconstructed where we take a list that
we’ve already done and break it down
entry by entry to talk about each one
and give you a little insight into our
thought process around here today’s list
is the top 10 disappointing games of
2017 so let’s take a look at the
original ranking all right so welcome to
deconstructed let’s take a quick look at
our panel today with me is Ricky the new
guy it’s up and Andrew who’s no longer
the new guy by default there we go these
guys both work in the video game
department with us so most of your age
is directed at at least one of us
indirectly yeah yeah mostly this guy
anyway uh let’s jump right into it
Friday the 13th the game not the old one
the new one because this is 2017 and
that’s we’re talking about broken broken
it’s so like the Melissa for example if
we’re not talking about worst games for
2017 we’re talking about disappointing
disappoint and this game was just too
ambitious for such a small indie team
because it needed to be a horror
multiplayer game and that’s just
something that you can’t do because your
community is just gonna mess that up and
not take us seriously no no like listen
they okay people will always try to mess
with your game that’s that’s a fact and
but listen dead by daylight exists
that’s a game that works very similar to
this actually in terms of how it flows
and stuff and that’s by a pretty small
development team – if I’m not mistaken I
just think it’s more like okay this game
had a shadow to come out from under
because it was another Friday the 13th
game and it’s a licensed game you know
Friday the 13th for NES obviously one of
the most ridiculed games of all time we
were just trying to play it at launch
though and it was buggy like it was
buggy and the server’s didn’t work yeah
it was just it was underwhelming to say
the least
just the animation were crap it looked
just jagged and
didn’t flow at all and remember guys we
are talking about disappointing we’re
not gonna totally drag these no because
you know it’s it’s a lot of fun to play
and it’s a lot of fun to watch and it’s
a great game for streamers it’s just it
could have been more than just a
sideshow yeah it’s a sideshow that’s a
fun distraction see this is what okay I
got the sense that this game was like
the second wave of games that have been
made with let’s players in mind like we
had like last year in the year before we
had like you know the surgeon simulators
and what else we had like Octodad and
stuff like that which is clearly made
with those streamers and minds scream
streamers if you want to call them that
so I feel like this is the next wave of
that type of game and in that sense I
think it kind of succeeded because like
I think it got like a lot of like a lot
of press that way I wanted to read one
cool comment not the least not the least
because he’s got a pretty sweet name
Curt cocaine says yeah wait Friday the
13th the game is disappointing because
of bugs is there anything else you’d
like to complain about
perhaps the repetitive nature of the
game the lack of game modes and maps I’m
a fan and I’ve been addicted to playing
it since it launched and even I can
contribute something to this video while
making your selection worthwhile video
feels sort of lazy okay
criticism taken this is actually a
relatively good comment yeah yeah it’s
hard to find these companies this is
actual constructive criticism of our
entry so I’m not actually going to
refute it Thank You Curt cocaine for
Thank You Curt criticism okay let’s go
on to number nine
Valkyria toward evolution which is not
related to the how they talking to game
at all no revolution yeah at all
actually I mean it’s it’s a it’s
separate from the other Valkyria titles
in the timeline and the way it’s
presented but it’s the cutscenes or
15-minute cutscenes back of the head
also they don’t have to animate the
mouth yeah exactly they skipped out on
that and you don’t want to be watching
15 minutes of some anime girl’s head and
if you skip them you missed the whole
story so you can’t even fast forward so
there’s that and then there’s the just
the gameplay it’s generic yeah it’s
it’s a pet of hack-and-slash I mean it
doesn’t feel like there’s any strategy
behind it and that’s like pretty much
all Valkyria chronicles had going for it
right like I mean yeah the original
series like I’m a big fan of the
turn-based strategy slash RPGs like Fire
Emblem XCOM recently divinity original
sin yeah my favorite this year for sure
so I think it’s a shame that this game
wasn’t in that vein I know I’m assuming
executives speak says that you that
those games don’t sell and like they’re
hoping to hit like a larger market which
is I think a problem with just
franchises but you’re an isolating
you’re yeah it’s an base so at what
costs yeah it’s it’s trying to clearly
expand the fan base but I think they
just diminished it unfortunately yeah
yeah they took the name and they dragged
a little bit through the mud not a lot
of comments about that one I guess
people thought many people were as
disappointed as we were I guess they
expected it maybe okay they just agree
with that all right let’s steer this
conversation over to our next entry
shall we
that’s gonna make sense in a second so
for Gran Turismo sport I’ve got another
comment here and dr. for gone killer 96
said he basically wrote our entry for us
it’s it’s pretty it’s pretty harsh
because once again we got to say this is
this is why it’s on the disappointing
list and he goes Gran Turismo sport is
far from disappointing it looks great
I’m gonna skip his bracketed part here
you know it also is getting a full
career mode like the last iterations
including endurance races it’s getting
more cars possibly up to 4,000
the only thing doesn’t have the only
thing it doesn’t have his tracks but the
track selection is fine for an eSports
focus game it’s also getting offline so
you can save offline now he used the
word getting like three times he
basically just listed off all the
features that we then get yeah and that
we didn’t get yeah and explained why
it’s a disappointment like a discussion
over
no because they crashed the game today
yeah and the the patch that came out
today
added a lot of those features that he
was missing on the big one was offline
campaign right yeah yeah which is
something people are clamoring for but
the game is not that old the game came
out in October and
well I’m not condoning releasing a game
before it’s finished right and patching
and features in afterwards the focus of
this game was towards being an eSport so
they sort of tightened the game up quite
a bit and really emphasize that aspect
of it and then the fact that they’re you
know adding to it and bringing these
features slowly back in to me makes this
one this doesn’t really belong on the
list I don’t think this is particularly
disappointed really self I think it I
think it redeemed itself especially with
the content and event they’ve added a
few more cars well I think mr. doctor
for gone killer 96 PC would agree with
you but it I don’t know man this the
points he’s brought up make perfect
sense for why you’d be disappointed also
you said that like this a lot of these
changes are a pivot towards eSports like
does racing games don’t have any sport
they needed one okay this game it that’s
what this answer hardcore and shit here
so there’s so hard to love driving yeah
they love this Mario Kart right this is
this this is forza these are these are
games that people want to be really
really good at good at to show how good
they are to be like look how unforgiving
this racing game is all I’m saying and
this is the last thing we’ll say on this
because I’m the boss here is that like I
can understand why fans would be
disappointed if your favorite gaming
franchise decided to pivot towards
eSports fair point
sure fair point but I don’t move next
next and ruling on entry there we go
Marvel vs. Capcom and finish we’re
talking about a buggy launch I’m not I’m
not defending this one oh man they they
walked back so much fun stuff no three
players no no there’s no excuse me no
three fighter tournament mode yeah
that’s weird I don’t know why they take
that out that’s like a staple of the
franchise I am thinking it was technical
limitations I think the game probably
puked if you tried to do that that’s
that’s my we’re in 2017 guys a seven it
shouldn’t be an issue no I think and how
like a giant open-world you can have six
character swapping it’s not it’s it’s
it’s it’s ridiculous it’s either lazy or
but I mean it’s it’s a fighting game ran
as long as you can like pick your
Wolverine and go in and fight some
people well that’s but that’s another
problem I mean like the previous Marvel
vs. Capcom games yes you knew that was
you were baiting me their previous smart
Marvel vs. Capcom games you get access
to the x-men and even the Fantastic Four
and all that stuff my brains been at the
very first this game is a spin-off of
x-men vs. Street x-men yeah there’s a
street fighter yeah so Wolverine is in
that one
Greene’s been in it since day one yeah
and you know what we perfectly
understand like the licensing
regulations like Fox owns the x-men and
Fantastic Four so they can’t appear in
something that’s an official Marvel
property but from a gamers perspective
that just kind of blows dude yeah it
it’s like even the storyline with the
whole Infinity stones it feels like
they’re just setting up that next
Avengers movie it felt like it was
trying very hard to just be another
facet of the MCU yeah exactly and I
think I think that’s what they wanted to
do I mean they want to bring it into the
light they want to build the hype around
it and so they pushed it out as this
like extension to the story funny story
when we were ready three this year they
were playing it on this huge screen and
below it they had Ultron Sigma which is
like the combination of you know Mega
Man X is filling Sigma and an Ultron
from the Marvel Universe
anyway amazing display and mid
tournament between two players became
blue screens like in front of all of e3
I mean all of you three wasn’t watching
that one thing but it was you had look
it tried to watch the extra character
those three characters really yeah yeah
yeah it was when they patched it out
yeah did a Warhammer 40k Dawn of War 3
now I used to really play I never even
bothered with this one because you know
call me a shill I read the reviews and
they made a pivot towards MOBAs like I
mean you know we’re talking just before
about like having a franchise that you
love pivot towards eSports this is my
sore spot like okay I understand that a
real-time strategy
games on their way out be MOBAs okay say
they started production of this game in
2014-2015 MOBAs are the hottest thing at
that point yeah the pivot kind of makes
sense especially if you’re a suit if
you’re an executive 2017 rolls around
realtime strategy games are still very
dead and people are sick of MOBAs like
if the poor guys working on this game
must have known people would have been
pissed off
like do you was anyone anyone out there
viewers you guys clamoring for another
multiplayer online battle arena game
with your favorite printer with your
favorite franchise yeah it wasn’t even a
full-blown mobile yeah it was just like
yours of course assembly of everything
it’s just thankfully we did get a pretty
cool work or hammer strategy game is
here wasn’t for UK but no more heavier
battle war – is the game that I’ve been
playing on stops yeah came out so I have
that so we got to plug that at least
alright so shadow of war yes okay I know
you have something to say about the
Battle of war yeah yeah yeah shadow of
war yeah okay I know you have something
like as if we didn’t prep before the
show anyway the thing about shadow of
war is there’s two games this year that
came out where we played previous
versions of them about two or three
years ago and you and I were saying like
man these games all they have to do
they’re definitely gonna make a sequel
so they just have to make it just a
little bit bigger a little bit more
content and it’s sold we’ll talk about
the second one on this list a little bit
later but shadow of war what happened I
was so pissed off at this game like you
know how much I liked the first one the
first one was just an enormous amount of
fun but no content criminal lack of
content yeah
Andrew was really really upset when he
he finished the game he was like fuck
that game I thought oh I thought they
were still like another I thought it was
halfway through the game yeah and it’s
like press X to kill Sauron no so this
one I was super excited this is the only
game this year that i pre-ordered
because I swear I wasn’t gonna 2017 I’m
gonna produce i pre-ordered shadow of
war and I was so Dean really good game
really fun all of that stuff is still
there but they just bloated the hell out
of it right here they did an assassin’s
creed your your criticisms aren’t really
related to the loot boxes I
I know I don’t give a shit about the
loot boxes they didn’t bought like I
don’t mind buying them but they didn’t
know they were not my problem with this
case you didn’t get that far you didn’t
get cuz I didn’t get too angry yeah you
know I was just I was just I Trey was it
just was a slog and you know all the fun
the combat is still there the AI is
fantastic the orcs are super interesting
the orcs are the best part of the game
they should just make a game that just
sim orc sim shadow of war orc I would
play the hell out of it you get to keep
their heads on this time yeah yeah but
it was just there was just too much crap
the whole game feels like like the
tutorial never feel it never ends you
know they’re always just introducing new
stuff I was learning in I need you don’t
care about anymore and there was just
way too many balls to keep up in the air
and it was getting in the way of the fun
they went way too overboard so like they
they turned it a little bit too far to
the yeah they turned into Assassin’s
Creed they went from Arkham City or
maybe Arkham Asylum you know like a
tight game or everything and it has a
reason to be in it and then they turned
it into assassins creed game it’s just
bloated way too much crap hmm Ricky
thought I mean I can get behind that
having being overwhelmed by gameplay and
things that aren’t even core to the
series or to the fun of the series well
there’s always that moment when you’re
starting a game especially a big
adventure game like this where you’re
kind of eager for them to take the
training wheels off and just let you go
of course I mom and that just never
seems to end in shadow before no never I
bought a new video card for this game
I’m so disciplined and I think it’s
still a good game and I will go back to
it but I was so this is for me the most
disappointing game of the year well okay
so now it comes time to pit it to
something that’s a little more this is a
bit sadder we’re not actually ripping on
the game we’re sort of just ripping on
the circumstances of the game yeah I
don’t know if you can guess actually
it’s probably like right there on the
screen I’m not sure where it is but it’s
it’s right there it’s the next one you
see it coming let’s talk about it anyway
lawbreakers yeah robbery cos now we got
some comments for this one both of them
pretty much carry the same sentiment I
would play lawbreakers if I could
actually find a match and turtlenecks
says the reason for lawbreakers is kind
of sad and it is
it’s actually really sad cuz the game is
named school gorgeous I mean it looks
beautiful it was really is a good
experience now the only thing that I
think is hampering it down aside from
the player base it’s like it’s more of
the same in terms of we have overwatch
and that’s taken a large chunk of people
away from these other titles these kind
of like cartoony shooters these
team-based shooters and you think you’re
getting in trouble for saying it’s a
little too similar to overwatch I don’t
I’m not saying it’s exactly overwatch
but I do think that it shares that whole
dynamic the whole the mechanics of the
game like it looks like it plays like oh
so how badly do you think this was hurt
by the fact that very early on people
were saying that no one was playing I
feel like if that becomes the discourse
around her multiplayer game it’s
literally instantly dead I heard a lot
about this before it came out no there
was not much marketing done and I think
that their main the main icon they used
to portray the game something called
dead zone and it was like what you see
when you die and when it came out it was
just brushed over even though it again
it looks great and it plays great
there’s there’s nothing there’s there’s
no excitement about it and I think
they’ve missed a mark with with that
chance I feel like it’s kind of like all
right first of all I don’t think it was
marketed very well no I don’t think the
just the brand recognition and the
exposure for the game before release I
think was pretty bad and I think that
heard it a lot but I also think that’s
sort of it ties in to the art style I
think you look at like an individual
still and that looks great yeah but it
also kind of looks like what they put on
the box for your new 3d card that’s like
supposed to be yeah from a video game
it’s like video game art but it’s not
from any game because it’s just generic
and I think this game kind of suffered
from how like there’s some really cool
and beautiful art that’s gone into it
but at the same time I feel like it’s
like visually you can’t look at a single
thing and say like that looks like it’s
from lawbreakers
you look at stuff created for other
games and I hate to draw this comparison
again because people will be upset but
you can go like that looks like it
should be an overwatch battleborn had
that problem last year battle board its
branding looked so similar people kept
confused
it an oversaturated market you do have
to push even character development and
have a face or a couple of phases that
are associated with your your game
probably the saddest entry yeah it’s
disappointing in the most in the most
truly disappointed sense if that could
have been so much and maybe there’s
still time I think there is I think so
too I’m I think this game will have legs
but it’s always going to be the underdog
unfortunately you come regan lately
there’s one that Dave yes a guy who we
work with in the video game Department
one of the stalwarts was really looking
forward to this he always wants banjo
kazooie on our retro list back the
Kickstarter I think he was like a high
tier backer and he was really good shit
I think he got like yes he got some he
got a t-shirt or something
haven’t seen him wearing it yet he has
no well he’s not so happy with it I
think see this is a good example of a
game that was almost too faithful in its
recreation for those of you that don’t
know it’s a spiritual successor to banjo
kazooie and you know it’s a good
collectathon actually you know what I
have a comment about this let’s go it’s
alright so dark chaos taxi says ukelele
should be nowhere near the top of this
list I can understand giving it a
mention because of the scope of the game
being slightly similar but it got way
too much negative press the game is just
fantastic
and tickled the nostalgia perfectly most
complaints were about being ver about it
being bugged which it was patched fairly
quickly I might add or because it’s a
collectathon all caps that’s what it’s
supposed to be also might I add for
another time that the complaints in this
video were actually really shallow in
comparison to the other dishonours
despite it being so high on the list
didn’t agree with the order I think now
you want to talk about why we placed it
so high because I think there was a lot
riding on this like oh yeah you know
talk about press and brand recognition
first of all not only did this game gain
a lot of hype but it’s really easy to
spot the characters even like okay you
show some of the side characters you
might not go like oh that’s from ukelele
but emblematic branding from day one and
a built-in audience what I was gonna say
was that like I just feel that this is a
great example of the game that copied
over a lot of the tropes and fit and
gameplay elements that were in the
predecessors that have technically that
are not necessary anymore
in a game like this you know well they
tried to mimic it instead of like taking
not a genre but a style of game that
worked in the early 2000s and adapting
it in the way say like an ex-con what do
right or modernize exactly mmm is a
better example or modernizing it they
replicated this early 2000 style of
adventure game almost too closely
exactly I mean it’s yeah it’s an
original title and if people were
backing it on kickstart and put their
money into it and we’re excited about it
and they kind of got this recycled
beautifully recycled but recycled
recycled you don’t really hear those
words together yeah I mean let the game
looks great and the art styles green
it’s vibrant and and it’s it’s got this
nostalgic throwback but it’s not enough
to save it from all of its flaws and I
guess that’s why it’s it’s on the list
it’s disappointing it could have been it
could have been awesome and it was it’s
a fun thought experiment when you look
at an old game that was a classic and
you say like if this was released today
would it be popular yeah and it’s just
like a lot of things that we were used
to when we were playing the n64 have
been kind of fixed yeah and like when
you tolerated it back then but shouldn’t
necessarily have to tolerate it now oh
and it’s also in that’s why it’s so high
on the list too is because this game had
more it’s almost flattering to the game
yeah that it’s number three almost yeah
exactly because there was definitely a
market for it okay so funny story for
viewers at home when we were prepping
our end-of-the-year lists so
disappointing worst and best game of the
year there was a big discussion over
whether or not we should leave a blank
spot for best game of the year for Star
Wars Battlefront because it hadn’t come
out yet needless to say we didn’t have
to swap anything around on the best
games of the year list No
the other one but I think this is
another great example of disappointment
it’s not necessarily a flat-out broken
product and I think it’s competent what
it’s trying to do okay I you know what
what do you guys think okay so here’s my
thing with it obviously the progression
system from the outset was completely
broken with the battle pole not pulling
any punches Ricky no it was broken and
the dilute boxes I mean I feel like
they’re taking advantage of the
playerbase by saying okay you got to pay
for this you got to put in like 40 hours
to get a skin your your it’s it’s like
almost like abuse because they know that
the Star Wars name carries that weight
and they know that people are gonna go
out and get it anyways EA knows that and
so when you’re doing that you’re
treating us like idiots and you’re
taking us for granted and there’s a
reason why that reddit comment is the
most downloaded one in history because
people and gamers who are analytical
look through and see these shallow
attempts at taking your money and and
exploiting your time and it just I mean
again the game itself obviously isn’t
horrible it’s not horrible it’s a point
experience and a lot of people from the
comments that I’ve read as well yeah I
got tons of comments here we probably
seen them on screen as I’m talking right
now yeah technology if I like a lot of
people love it they’ll agree care about
the loot crate’s and if you don’t that’s
okay what I go out when I played it was
that like it really did feel like the
game was skewed towards these things
like they actually they did the thing
that people have been complaining about
forever but hasn’t quite happened this
idea that like the loot boxes will
actually result in pay to win mechanics
that that like it will they will
actually damage the gameplay by
implementing these things that’s a real
shame and it damage the gameplay almost
immediately because as soon when you
jump in and you get killed by somebody
cuz you see the star cards killed you
see the rich I don’t want to play a
shooter a multiplayer shooter where the
other person’s using the same gun as me
but their gun does more damage or the
other person just is the same class as
me but they’re taking less damage or
faster or their grenades I don’t want to
play a multiplayer shooter that has
those kinds of mechanics in the game if
when there’s unlocks and customisation
like in battlefield games or Call of
Duty is supposed to be sad even death
exactly it’s sideways and this game is
not a step sideways it’s the more you
play the your Starfighter will do more
damage than the other guys Starfighter
this game isn’t it’s not so much a
disappointment to the battlefront
franchise it’s a disappointment to
gaming mmm hot take of the day and this
was you know we were talking before
about games where we were just we saw
the last one we say okay this is not
perfect but if they make a solid sequel
and learn from their mistakes then we’re
just gonna have a great game and I think
you’re right in what you’re saying like
they knew that they just had to tell
everyone that they’re adding more
features throw in all the era’s make it
look pretty
it’s Star Wars and people are gonna buy
it because we are those people
that’s literally that was me it’s us I
was gonna buy it yeah and you know I
think it’s it speaks volumes to that to
how popular this work this whole
franchise is like that we were we had
confidence in it we were just like I
think this game is gonna be good I’m
really hoping for a lord of Destruction
Diablo 3 no lord of Destruction Reaper
of souls kind of turnaround where they
can take their licks and release an
expansion or some patches that really
just kind of turns it around and like
fixes what was broken but I honestly
don’t think it’s so much like because
you know they turned off the
microtransactions right I don’t think
it’s as easy as just flipping a switch
no there there’s gonna be some balancing
issues I know a lot of you like it by
the way so if you’re typing that you’re
having fun with it like please we don’t
have to bond clean that’s fine it’s
supposed to be fun yeah we don’t want we
never want to suck the fun out of your
life to be bad we don’t look at a game
and be like oh I hope this we are gamers
yeah and supposed to be fun yeah okay
here we go
numero uno Mass Effect Andromeda now I
know you’re a big fan Andrew Ricky you
can play in Mass Effect games not
recently not recently
the new one for obvious reasons yeah
well I mean like we Andrew and I both
have n7 gear and fans but like okay game
did have big shoes to fill
I think it’s a good example of okay I’m
not defending the game fully cuz there’s
a lot of things that are wrong with it
like there was the animation thing and
the writing kind of sucked and the RPG
mechanics were kind of simplified
there’s just there’s tons upon tons of
things telling to pull apart yeah III
don’t think they made the sell properly
way before the game came out that like
it’s time to return to Mass Effect this
is a new Mass Effect game to get pumped
for AI at no point was I watching
trailers and I was like oh my god Mass
Effect’s back who cares about Shepard
blah I was sort of like I guess I’m
gonna like this because I like Mass
Effect but those were my thoughts going
in I think this is a good example we
were talking about how law breakers was
probably hurt by the fact that you if
the first thing you hear about the game
isn’t that no one’s playing that’s very
bad yeah and this game was really hurt
by that whole animation row like that
how the game could was accessed EA
access people could play it week early
and the just the shots of the horrible
janky animations came out I think that
sunk the game right off the bat even if
it were to be an amazing accomplishment
after that but that was a nice
jumping-off point I think for people to
just rip on it well it reminds the
integrity of the whole thing I mean you
see something that’s supposed to be a
triple-a title with the legacy of Mass
Effect and it kind of just looks jaggedy
it’s not flowing and there’s there’s
there’s there’s no reason to keep
watching it and to keep indulging
yourself in and it just takes you away
from the experience so I mean yeah it’s
gonna take a hit you know we expect we
expect beautiful things we expect to
look at something and for it to be for
realistic and when you don’t see that in
a Hallmark franchise like this it does
kind of take away from the the whole
excitement of it now there’s some really
good articles out there as to how like
as to what went wrong like they had to
switch it like the engine was just not
made for an RPG like they had to like
restart production at one point I don’t
want to misquote these articles so look
them up yourselves but I think we own
that they had because they put a few
more diverse characters in the animation
suffered because that’s how game
development works you know they have
like a whiteboard and it’s like nice
animations character diversity and
they’re like gotta pick one right the
social justice warriors ruined Mass
Effect that’s they happen that’s totally
what happened right these are facts
because that’s how game development
works you use like oh we have to have
like people’s like colors so we can’t so
so it’s just like I guess we’re gonna
have to fire this animation team trade
offs trade offs trade offs yeah we are
being heavily sarcastic here by the way
I hope that’s clear it is yeah no no no
man problems of mass effect is like
people just had really myself included
had just really really high expectations
of the game because it’s not like an
indie studio making this game no it’s
following like a huge incredibly
successful really well beloved franchise
and it’s like a new jumping-off point
like a spin-off series yeah for a new
franchise and it just didn’t live up to
anything that the original Mass Effect
did it just the combat wasn’t as diverse
and fun even though they tried they just
oversimplified it too much the
characters just weren’t as strong the
storyline wasn’t as compelling the
writing wasn’t as good like it didn’t
reach any of them nothing was quite
there yeah and it’s a shame I remember
playing Dragon Age Inquisition which I
wasn’t crazy about but I was like man
can’t wait till they make a Mass Effect
game with this engine but uh careful
what you wish for because apparently
that engine really worked them yeah big
shame do you think we’ll ever get
another route a good Mass Effect game I
think I think they’re gonna wait for the
fire to die down yeah they’ll it is a
triumphant return I mean that I mean
they’re in position to do that but or it
could go down the sonic route and just
keep getting worse oh man let’s it’s too
big for franchise like Sonic was a
popular character Mass Effect is to
expense it cost too much to make them as
effective they’re gonna they’re gonna
wait for the fire to die down and then
they might not might not even be sequel
to Andromeda oh I I I think they’re
gonna expunge – a third that that name
is going there
yeah motive ends Ramadan nobody’s visit
nobody’s there
oh man anyway I guess that brings us to
the end of our list guys um Ricky yeah
Andrew thank you so much for joining us
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