Press "Enter" to skip to content

What Can the Rat Tell Us about Language and Communication Disorders | Mike Bowers | TEDxVirginiaTech


I’d like to begin with a question what

is language now we linguists defined

languages a set of rules that governs

any communicated system whether that

system sign language or spoken language

now language is one of the most

quintessential qualities we have as

human beings this basically makes us who

we are yet we know very little about how

the brain processes this arguably

language is one of the most difficult

things to study in science for centuries

we try to understand how the brain

acquires and uses language yet we know

very little how this is done for me as a

child I grew up in a multilingual home

with friends and family I was just

fascinated by the fact that at one

language topic at one top of

conversation multiple languages can be

switched in and out it amazed me then I

go to college and someone tells me hey

Mike you know you could study that

phenomenon I was hooked

I knew that’s what I wanted to do with

my whole life study language so at this

point you’re probably asking yourself

great but rats don’t speak Mike and

you’re right they do whole talk but they

sing and they sing real well now what

you see here is a sonogram now this is a

pictorial representation of an acoustic

signal on the Left y-axis kilohertz and

frequency on the bottom x-axis time

milliseconds so what you see think of a

think of it as a heat map where warmer

colors such as red or indicated of more

acoustic power cooler colors such as

blue or indicated of soft acoustic power

now the radish is different than we are

it prefers to vocalize in an ultrasonic

range outside of our normal hearing so

what we have to do is we have to use

computer technology to convert that to

our normal hearing range and when we

convert that signal this is what a rat

that’s beautiful sound I listen to these

things on headphones and I’m glad you

work with the rat we now know that

there’s three large distinct

classifications in their communication

repertoire the first one is the 22

kilohertz vehicle ization now what’s

unique about this type of call is that

it’s indicative of the animal and it’s

not happy as you can see from the

sonogram it’s very long in duration

carries a lot of acoustic power and it

doesn’t have frequency modulation no

contours to its frequency so when we

hear a rat or we do something to a rat

now the second large class of

vocalizations to the 50 kilohertz now

these are different from the 22 and that

the 50 kilohertz are reflective of when

the rats happy the other thing you’ll

know about this is that they’re shorter

in duration compared to the 22 killer

her vocals ation and they have frequency

contours now there’s a lot of different

ways you can make a rat happy in the lab

what we do when we’re training them we

give them fruit loops

they love sugar just like any kid

another way that we reward our rats for

doing what we asked them to do is we’ll

roll them on their backs well took up

their little bellies when you tickle

that’s telling you the rats happy now

the third class of call is the 40

kilohertz ition now this is unique to

the baby rat or rat pups as we call them

now when a rats born its deaf-blind

and it doesn’t have first so it has

trouble regulating temperature so if it

wanders away from the nest it’s

developed a surefire mechanism that the

mother will understand and bring it back

to the safety of the nest and it sounds

it’s almost if that rat same mom mom mom

those of you out there with children

especially your mother’s know

immediately with response this gets now

we are just beginning to really

appreciate the communicative system of

these rats there’s several different

call types and we know they have meaning

and they use them interchangeably with

each other it will be long before we

have the rosetta stone and better

now for me I’m interested in human

language and so we know from humans that

there’s gender differences there’s

subtle to gender differences the way the

girls speak the way the boys speak men

and women so I was interested what the

question of do rats have these subtle

differences so going back to that forty

kill hurtle ization that mom call if you

will we just simply recorded rats and as

you can see from the sonogram rats the

male rats vocalize differently than

female rats so being a neuroscientist

it’s inevitable we’re gonna ask the

question is there a gene responsible for

this well I can tell you this there’s no

one single gene responsible for language

but there is a gene that’s really

important and that’s Fox p2 so what we

know if Fox p2 comes from a family in

England what’s interesting about this

family in England is that there are

certain members of this family to have a

mutation in their fox p2 that mutation

causes problems and those problems are

language deficits and cognate cognitive

deficits so I was interested to ask the

question well if you have a mutation in

fox p2 it impacts the vocalizations

speech in humans I wonder if we altered

fox p2 and the rats if we’d see the same

thing so we did just that we targeted

Fox p2 with altered Fox p2 in these male

and female rats and what we found as you

recall from that earlier sonogram is in

the normal developing case males

vocalize differently than females but

when we inhibited Fox p2 and gave it to

the males and females what we found is

we’re able to reverse that

difference in their vocal calls so we’re

able to make a male sound like a female

and a female sound like a male as I

mentioned to you before that mom that 40

kilohertz and the mother is very

powerful

it’s a communicative unit they’re

exchanging informations so what we asked

is does changing that vocal call by

altering fox p2 changed the message

that’s being delivered from those pups

to the mom thereby changing her behavior

and the way she interacts with these

pups so you’ll notice in this picture

here on the right hand side this is the

cage of the rat on the right hand side

is where she built her nest what we

simply did was remove the pups marked

him for identification and placed some

of the opposite into the cage and

recorded the order of retrieval of the

mother picking up the pups taking him

back to the nest that behavior looks

like this now the thing you’ll notice

other than its speed is the mother just

doesn’t pick up the first pup she comes

to there’s something drawing her

attention to prefer to pick up other

pups over other ones in fact she’ll step

over some pick up some and drop them to

go retrieve another pup what we found is

that in the normal condition the mother

would prefer to retrieve a male before a

female but when we altered fox p2 what

we found is that the female remember

that when we alter fox p2 or switch the

vocalizations so what we found in this

type of behavior is that the mother when

she retrieved the male who was given the

inhibitor to Fox p2 that mother treated

that male not like a normal developing

male but in fact like a female and

retrieved him no different likewise with

a female who was given the inhibitor to

Fox p2 who now sounds like a male that

female was retrieved no different from

the normal developing male so

effectively

altering fox p2 changed vocal repertoire

of these pups that changed the signal

from the pups to the mother therefore

changing the way she interacted with her

pups

changing the behavior as a thing you’ll

notice about all these disorders

is one they’re all neural developmental

in origin – they have a higher

prevalence rate to affect boys over

girls and three one of the core symptom

ologies of these disorders is a language

deficit so I’m the luckiest person in

the world I think I get to study at

Virginia Tech I’m part of a great

program I have great colleagues probably

the best program director you can

imagine they let me do this stuff they

motivate me I’m inspired I’m that goofy

little kid that still loves language and

it’s really amazing to me that I can

study this and my goal is to help

contribute to science so I can better

understand language contribute to

science thereby giving people with

language deficits a voice and with that

thank you for your time [Applause]

Please follow and like us: