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What Are You Really Selling? | Vinny Minchillo | TEDxPlano


every year the Nielsen company does what

they call a veracity study they ask

people what are the professions you

trust the most what are the professions

you trust the least the top of the list

doesn’t change much from year to year is

usually doctor nurse pharmacist the

bottom of the list doesn’t change much

either down there you’ll find

advertising practitioner politician and

bringing up the rear used-car salesman

for the last 30 years I’ve been an

advertising practitioner I’ve worked

with a lot of politicians and a lot of

car companies I think that makes me the

least trusted man in America you should

believe nothing I tell you I’m in the

persuasion business but aren’t we all

maybe you’re in sales and marketing

maybe you’re trying to get your boss to

give you a raise I’m up here trying to

sell you an idea we’re all trying to

convince somebody of something and

frankly it’s not going that well because

we’re doing it wrong

see for generations we have been trained

to persuade people the same way an

attorney might in the courtroom I’d

present you with a series of

interconnected arguments that if you

follow those arguments you reach with me

an unassailable conclusion it just

doesn’t work we’re trying to make this

complicated persuasion effort in an ad D

world the average human has an attention

span of eight seconds average goldfish

nine seconds above average goldfish ten

seconds and look let’s be honest the

only reason it works in the courtroom is

because the jurors will be arrested if

they leave they have to stay and listen

to the whole thing we have to find

another way to do this so what if we

took what we knew about persuasion we

took all the books and the buzzwords and

seminars keynote speakers stripped it

all away and just got it down to the

bare basics well when you look at

successful persuasive arguments from the

beginning of time to now you find two

things in common

two things that work with any product

and you service two things that work at

any country in any language two things

that work with any demographic group

women seniors Latinos even Millennials

corporate America is freaking out about

how to talk to Millennials these two

things work with Millennials the two

things are hope and fear are there two

more basic motivators than hope and fear

if it weren’t for fear none of us would

even be here back in the prehistoric

days ugh the caveman in ting the woolly

mammoth right if you heard the

saber-toothed tiger growl he felt fear

he ran away

fear was a big part of his survival and

hope were the only animals on the planet

that hope we hope for nice weather we

hope for a better world for our children

we are built for hope hope and fear now

marketers are smart they’ve been using

hope and fear to sell us things for a

long long time but now who is using hope

and who’s using fear and how you can use

them is what I want to talk about I’m

gonna guess a lot of you came here

tonight in a pickup the makers of pickup

trucks have been using fear to sell us

trucks for 40 years and maybe you’ve

seen the commercials right they go

something like this they go our truck

has more torque and we see a guy and

he’s in the truck he’s got the trailer

with a thing on it we don’t know what it

is he’s hauling up a mountain to go do

important truck stuff right so here’s

what the psychological message they’re

trying to deliver to us finely honed

over 40 years of advertising they’re

saying if you don’t have enough torque

you can’t do your job you can’t do your

job you can’t take care of your family

if you can’t take care of your family

you’re not much of a man if you don’t

have enough torque you’re gonna be

living in a box under overpass that’s

ridiculous

or is it the number one best-selling

vehicle in America last year was a

pickup also the number two best-selling

via

number three best-selling vehicle you

have to get to number four before you

get your first car Ford is sold 800,000

pickup trucks last year best-selling car

less than half that that’s a lot of

torque and a lot of fear now when it

comes to hope nobody sells hope better

than health care folks especially the

pharmaceutical people and I’m really

fascinated by this because the

pharmaceutical people made a conscious

decision along the way to sell hope

instead of fear they could sold fear

they could have said hey look you take

this pill or you’re gonna get sick and

dying right very powerful message and

perfectly legitimate but instead they

decided to sell hope so what they say

now is take this pill and you’ll have a

better life a better life in a pill

I will ask my doctor about that and I’m

so excited about that I’m so interested

in that I will ignore the second half of

the commercial with all the side effects

anal leakage

I may be having some right now and a

fatal event my favorite side-effect

death I’m still interested in your

product even though you just told me it

might kill me that’s the power of hope

this really came home to me working on a

weight-loss surgery client we talked to

people who were interested in weight

loss surgery and it was fascinating what

they didn’t say they didn’t say how many

pounds they wanted to lose they talked

about the things in their life they

wanted to do they wanted to be able to

fly on an airplane without a seat belt

extender wanted a ride on a roller

coaster with their kids I’m gonna be

able to cross their legs so we changed

how we talked about it we stopped

talking about the number of pounds and

we started to talk about these small

specific things that would make their

life better because that’s what hope is

all about now what happens if you put

hope and fear together well let’s ask

the ASPCA maybe you’ve seen these

commercials with the sad Sarah McLachlan

song right you’ve got the dogs in the

cats and they’re in the cages and it’s

and it’s sad and you feel fear for the

animals but then they do something

really really interesting they make a

change they say only you can bring hope

to these animals so now it’s gone from I

want to help these animals to hey maybe

I’m gonna do a little something for

myself too so for $20 a month I can help

these animals and I can be the hero of

the story who doesn’t want to be a hero

they might as well be selling capes with

big red SS on the back now

hope and fear don’t work by themselves

hoping if you require input from you

they require action hope without action

is just a wish and fear without action

is just me curled up in the fetal

position under my coffee table but the

action can’t be by my product I mean

that’s selfish to expect that the action

has to be something that makes someone’s

life better Apple doesn’t want you to

buy a new phone

match.com doesn’t want you to download

their dating app they want you to go on

more second dates the product is just a

conduit to getting you to something that

makes your life better my favorite in

this category is Prevention magazine you

know Prevention magazine you see that

the grocery store it’s at the checkout

it’s a little magazine right next to the

cash register it’s filled with stories

about cancer

death heart attack disease real story

from Prevention magazine you open the

magazine there’s a picture of a couple

in there they’re in bed it’s late at

night the wife is wide awake and very

very stressed the headline says my

husband wants to have sex all the time

but he has a heart condition that makes

doing it deadly who reads this magazine

well a lot of people do they’re selling

fear but more than that when you buy

that magazine they’re validating your

fear it’s like they’re saying it’s okay

it’s okay to be afraid we’re afraid to

but in the magazine

maybe there’s a recipe that talks about

if you eat this kale you won’t get this

terrible disease so buying the magazine

is not the action but helping me take

this action that helps me a swage that

fear and lead a better life is what it’s

all about now hope if you ought to be

simple right we’ve all we’ve all heard

all the phrases hope springs eternal we

have nothing to fear but fear itself

hopes you’d be good fear is bad right

doesn’t work that way a little bit of

fear is a good thing too much hope is a

bad thing maybe you’ve gotten an email

from a friend of mine he’s a he’s a

Nigerian prince

needs just a little bit of help getting

twenty million dollars out of the First

National Bank of Nigeria if you just

send him your social security number the

little numbers off the bottom of your

check he’s selling hope that scams been

around for decades because he trades on

hope we all hope our ship has come in

it’s pennies from heaven and let’s talk

evil dictators for a minute we all know

one edy I mean Hugo Chavez these are

people who dealt in fear but they rose

to power on the wings of Hope 1930s

Germany they were crushed by the

depression and in Germany it was

probably even worse because they were in

a bad economic situation after World War

one Hitler comes along and says hey vote

for me and I’ll find a way to get you

out of this economic crisis he had no

business acumen he had no record there’s

no reason to believe him he was a failed

art student who had been in jail but he

was selling hope to the hopeless and

it’s a very powerful thing but can also

be a very dangerous thing I’ve worked in

politics for a long time and every level

from City Council to for presidential

races hope and fear are the only things

we sell and a lot of people think well

you know hope should belong to this

party and fear should belong to that

party I’m here to tell you both parties

sell hope and fear equally let’s just

say for example we were going to do an

ad for a very conservative candidate

might go something like this the world

is a dangerous place filled with evil

terrorists who want to destroy your life

vote for me and I’ll protect you right

fear-based message probably not unlike

something you’ve heard let’s go to the

other side of the aisle maybe it sounds

like this the world is a dangerous place

filled with greedy corporations that

want to destroy your life vote for me

and I’ll protect you I teach two words

we move from one end of the political

spectrum to the other end of the

political spectrum talk to two

completely different groups

with equal effectiveness that’s the

flexibility of fear now we all know how

to use hope and fear we all know how to

use it instinctively we’ve done it our

whole lives growing up my mother dealt a

lot of beer don’t run with those

scissors you’ll put your eye out and if

you eat a tuna fish sandwich and get in

the pool you’re on your own and when we

were potty training our daughter we sold

a lot of hope every day if you’ll use

the body we can get the My Little Pony

underwear she’s still wearing it she’s

29 but there are times in life when we

really should be using hope and fear and

it leaves us some of the most important

times like in a job interview how many

times have you seen people in a job

interview read their resumes back I’m a

self-starter and I’m really good at

Excel it’s like who cares so is

everybody else you’ve got to understand

the person on the other side of that

desk you’ve got to understand their

hopes and fears well this person fit in

on my team well they helped me meet my

goals will they be a good hire so

instead of talking about your awesome

excel skills maybe you should be talking

about how much you enjoy working on a

team how much you like the corporate

culture how glad you are when somebody

reaches their goals make that person

understand that by hiring you it’ll make

their life better that’s how you use

hope and fear now if I haven’t done a

good enough job explaining how you can

use hope and fear and any persuasive

situation that means it’s time to talk

about small kitchen appliances

let’s say you need a new blender $35 you

can get a blender perfectly nice blender

that will meet all your blending needs

or you could spend $500 and buy a

Vitamix people are lining up to buy $500

Vitamix is why because they don’t think

of them as blenders they think of them

you put the food in the Vitamix and you

mix it up and you drink it and you’re

healthier right and if and if it’s

something that makes you healthier it

gives us permission to spend more money

on it a lot more money so if they can

take a small kitchen appliance and they

can wrap it in hope and fear and sell it

for 500 bucks what can you do thank you [Applause]

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