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We’re speaking to the wrong people about extremism. | Dan Hett | TEDxManchester


on the evening of the 22nd of May last

year I’m sure most of you will remember

where you were I was lying in bed and as

I’m sure many of you do I was staring

blankly into my smartphone I was about

to go to sleep when I noticed a sort of

flurry of messages and tweets start to

pop up about an accident of some kind in

the city center banger collision

something like that with social media

being social media it was mostly just

guesswork and speculation from everybody

no one really knew what was going on I’d

been in the city a few years ago when

the riots had happened and I’d seen the

effects of this kind of guesswork and

speculation when the facts won’t really

know I voiced my opinion and I’ve had it

swearing but what I said was I’d sent a

tweet out saying explosions or bangs of

some kind happening at Victoria Station

idiots were already tweeting

misinformation and conjecture shut up I

hit Send put my phone in silent and went

to sleep and when I woke up I grabbed my

phone to check the time it was about

6:00 in the morning and it became very

obvious straight away that something was

quite wrong I had hundreds and hundreds

of messages and tweets and dozens of

missed calls from numbers I didn’t

recognize and it quickly became apparent

that the worst of the rumors from last

night had been true there had been a

terrorist attack in Manchester and the

reason that I had been bombarded with so

many messages was that my younger

brother Martin had been at the concert

and was missing he’d been at the ariana

grande concert and I initially I was

confused because I will admit fully that

I had never heard of ariana grande I’m

sorry

and for a little while I thought it was

one of his friends called Ariana Grande

and it was like have you tried he was if

he was ariana grande’s why don’t you

ring Gary Hanna

we should we knock at her house like

anything and so what had happened was

that the explosion had happened at the

very end of the concert after had

finished and the last suite the he’d

sent we were both prolific Twitter

abuses

he wrote a tweet about half-past ten

complaining that he’d stuck to the

toilet during a Macy Gray cover and he

was moaning that everybody else had had

the same idea and that was the last we

heard that day for me and so many people

in this city turned into the longest day

I will ever enjoy my family were rushed

with all the other families to the

Etihad football stadium where the police

had set up an emergency zone I stayed at

home sat on the floor surrounded by

computers laptops tablets scouring news

fees for any trace any update had the TV

news on in the background I was sending

out his photograph to everybody we just

it was just a state of complete panic at

the same time my life also became a

rolling battle with fairly aggressive

journalists who swamped me with requests

for information and for interviews and

that sort of thing so we’re going from

nought to maximum intensity very very

quickly a couple turned up my place of

work as if as if I’d be there and one

came to my house and pushed a note under

the door asking if you get him an

interview bear in mind this doesn’t seem

very much now but at the time is any

knock could have been the police or

worse you know by late afternoon we’d

been able to pinpoint his location

fairly well through other people’s

photographs there were just dozens of

photos of him dancing and drinking and

partying we knew kind of where he’d been

but we’d not heard anything official as

evening drew in we my sisters and I were

bundled into a police car and we were

rushed to the entire stadium with blue

lights on sirens blaring the traffic

passing in front of us a few very

difficult hours later and all left the

stadium together as a family

carrying the heartbreaking knowledge

that Martin had been identified as one

of the 22 people who’d been killed that

day the next

few days were unbelievably difficult for

everybody but the way the city rallied

together was completely incredible and I

received more messages of support than I

could possibly ever respond to I stood

with the rest of you and watched Tony

Walsh hold the city at a complete

standstill with that electric reading of

this is the place I stood onstage a few

days later the Deaf Institute sold out

benefit concert trying not to crap cry

in front of the crowd as I sort of

thanks the city in some way from the

bottom of my heart really um I really

feel that the true character of a place

in his people comes out in a crisis and

I can honestly say I’ve never been more

fiercely proud to be from this city now

all of these experiences there’s one

particular one I feel it’s important for

me to tell you about it was a few weeks

after everything happened and the police

reached out to the family to say that we

would be possible to reach so to visit

the arena it was still closed so the

police had control of it and many family

said no and many members of my family

said no to is a very personal decision

ultimately I decided that I had to know

I had to see so a few days later I found

myself with a few members of my family

on a average rainy manchester afternoon

standing in the empty and completely

silent lobby of the Manchester Arena

every surface around me was marked by an

uncountable number of shrapnel impacts

every glass panel was shattered every

stone wall tile cracked every bit of

metal in the place was punctured and

marked on the floor around me Oh in fact

though there was one takeaway image that

will stay with me

completely above me there was a single

security camera looking down at the

center of the room and it’s single s

lens had been shattered by a piece of

shrapnel and the whole experience was

images like that that will just stay

with you around me on the floor were 22

red roses spread out around the center

of the attacker I knelt on the floor and

put my hand on the polished floor tiles

and underneath my hand the floor sort of

gave way to rough recessed stone and I

knew this to be the exact spot that the

bomb had been detonated the 22 red roses

were spread around this point most were

in concentric circles around

tacker one or two works impossibly far

away one of the candles about seven feet

away so perhaps from here so there had a

small candle burning next to it placed

there by the police and I knew the rose

that marks where my brother have been

found now the reason that I’ve described

the scene to you today in such detail is

that it’s important for me to get across

that I’ve seen in a very literal sense

the the devastation that happens when an

attack of this nature happens um it’s

impossible to comprehend the scale and

ferocity of an attack until you’ve stood

in the center of the aftermath and I’d

not consider what it would look like but

it was completely overwhelming well

despite having been witness to this

destruction what I’ve learned through my

experiences since that day is that the

true damage of violent extremism extends

far far beyond why saw that day our

responses as individuals and as

communities are quite literally what

imbues terrorism with its strength and

with his power and this isn’t just

speculation and this isn’t just an

emotional response the Home Office

released statistics last year saying the

hate crimes had risen by 1/3 87 percent

of those hate crimes had race or

religion as a contributing factor

it’s an astonishing number bear in mind

that these were always conservative

measures as well because an enormous

number of hate crimes go unreported

within this data there were clear spiked

in hate crimes that correspond exactly

with attacks in London this is thousands

of retaliations perpetrated upon a

peaceful Muslim population in direct

response to isolated extremist acts I’ve

learned that those who respond to

violence with more violence are in fact

doing the least constructive and most

damage and thing they could possibly do

when a gang Gotham folks smash up a

mosque when a Muslim family is attacked

in their own home this is actually just

further damage from extremism the damage

is immeasurably wide-ranging and

destructive it’s not just about the bomb

the damage carries on far beyond the

person who carried out this attack was

the son of Libyan immigrants he grew up

on the same street did the same

situation my brother did my brother and

I are in fact the sons of a Turk

immigrant my mother sounds from bro and

my dad is British

now the similarities between us we’re

striking even at the very very start

because although we led very similar

lives in the same city at some point his

paths diverged into radicalization and

extremism and this similarity showed me

one thing very clearly that if you use

the actions of an extremists to demonize

Islam or all immigrants you demonize me

and my family too and worse you demonize

thousands and thousands of innocent

people whose only crime is to share a

birthplace or a faith or a culture and

this is why I spoke out now let me say

very very clearly for those of the back

of my thoughts on this if you use the

actions of extremists to validate your

prejudice against an inch high an entire

section of our society that is racism

now stop me if you’ve heard this one

before I can’t be racist because Islam

is not a race I’ve heard this a lot and

I think you’re splitting hairs is point

really the net result of all this is

that Islamophobia is become almost

completely normalized for so many now

let’s look at the other side of the

extremism spectrum in June 2016 Joe Cox

was murdered by a right-wing far-right

neo-nazi extremist on the streets of the

constituency she served the the

right-wing newspaper that has used his

pages for decades to demonize Islam and

immigration didn’t report the same in

this case instead choosing to describe

the attacker as a loner with a history

of mental illness I’m sure you’ve read

this kind of thing before a few weeks

later when he was sentenced to life in

prison they pushed the story back to

page 30 instead of accurately reporting

the Jews own verdict this attack was

carried out to further a white

supremacist ideology now as a citizen

I don’t have the power to stop a

terrorist attack but as citizens we

absolutely hold the power to affect

change within ourselves in our

communities we can fix this my idea

under I say this my dear we’re spreading

I suppose is that we all have the power

to change things but we’re speaking to

the wrong people about extremism now let

me explain since the attack in

particular list is taking such a public

stance as I’m doing now I have spent a

long time reading any moments of

weakness responding to some of the most

unbelievable abuse and aggressive

commentary let’s say that you can

imagine and it’s I very very quickly

realized that attempting to meaningfully

engage with these people is completely

impossible it is time wasted trying to

offer counterpoint or argument to a

viewpoint and it’s just utterly

entrenched in racism and xenophobia is

impossible and this isn’t just online I

was there that night when a prominent

far-right right commentator chose to

launch his self-published Islamophobic

book on the streets of Manchester he

chose this city our city my city for one

reason alone and was the attacks I was

there at the counter protest and I heard

the same abuse screamed at my face in

real life and that kind of thing it

really really stays with you now this

hostile defense of Britishness is

something that pervades a lot of the

argument put forth by the far-right you

know taking our country back that kind

of your kind of deal but I question what

it is that they’re defending because I

don’t think it exists for me British

through Britishness is built on a

foundation of multicultural then

multiculturalism from our music to our

food to our British at eccentricity we

are a multicultural society and I feel

that genuine national pride is actually

a fine thing but this distorted hostile

nationalism is not that and those who

disagree are labelled as traitors and

I’ve been called this too recently I

would say that surely the real traitors

to this country are those that seek to

misappropriate subvert or weaponize our

values against one another

so we’re thinking about so if this is

not where the conversation happens

and it clearly isn’t than we’re well to

fix a problem as big as extremism I

believe that a real deep cultural change

is needed and in order to do that we

need to speak to the next generation of

citizens recently I became a founder

member of survivors against terror an

antique extremism working group formed

by Brendan Cox and a diverse group of

others we’ve all been affected by

violent extremism and we aim to use our

collective voice and experience to

affect proper tangible change in our

communities our policies and our support

networks discussing these issues openly

with young people is a really really

fundamental part of our work and when I

go into these places so schools colleges

I’ve spent a long time doing this now

and when I go into these places I don’t

have slides I don’t have a script

I converse with students I don’t talk at

students and this is an incredibly

important distinction that so many are

not making I found without fail that

these students are just surprised to not

be spoken down to discount young people

at your peril and and they’re just happy

to be engaged in what’s quite a frank

and honest discussion about these issues

which is something that often they don’t

get and I found that they’re hungry for

information for context and for balanced

insight from other resources because

quite often people young people in

particular are receiving their info from

singular sources which is either the

press you have their own agenda or from

those in the argument that shout the

loudest which is not the right balance

whatsoever and when a person receives

all their information from just from

single sources then in the worst cases

that’s where extremism comes from and in

their enthusiasm to engage with what is

an extremely difficult thing to talk

openly about I see one thing I see

change those potential there or put this

another way and if you take anything

away today make it this bit imagine a

scenario in which the radicalize young

man who carried out this attack on this

city had been exposed to voices other

than those that led him from the path

what happened in this city was a tragedy

of unimaginable proportions for so many

of us and we cannot let this legacy be

more hatred and division between us we

just can’t

it’s losing someone for me to realize

that we all have a stake in this and

that we all have the ability to change

things really change things my brother’s

name was mine and he seized every moment

and my tribute to him will absolutely be

to do the same Thank You Manchester [Applause]

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