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We need to change the way we look at further education and training | John Walshe | TEDxShannonED


there was a joke some time ago about a

very bright young professional who was

downtown and city in the south to the

country shopping with his mother and

when they finished shopping they were

heading home and this rather fortunate

young man

tripped and he slipped into the river

and his mother was naturally alarmed she

was also very conscious of his place in

the community so she went around

shouting at the top of her voice help

help my son the surgeon is drowning with

the emphasis on the word surgeon and

fortunately he was saved as an equally

bright young person nearby who was able

to swim and jumped in to the river and

rescued him now this very bright young

person had never gone to university in

fact had left school early because she

had to scientist that she wasn’t going

to follow the academic route into

University she wanted to do an

apprenticeship which she did and I was

so successful Ashes that she set up her

own company and hired quite a number of

staff whether she actually needed a

surgeon or not I don’t know so I don’t

know whether she actually interviewed

him but I think the story tells us a lot

about our attitudes towards education

and education is one of those topics

upon which are all experts everyone here

we all have one thing in common we all

went to school right well I assume

everybody here went to school you don’t

actually have to put your hand up if you

didn’t go but having gone to school that

makes you all an authority on the system

I have yet to meet anybody and I doubt

if anybody here knows anybody who

doesn’t have views and education we

might know how to solve the neverending

health crisis we might know how to fix

the economy but when it comes to

education everybody knows what’s wrong

with us and everybody knows how to make

a rice we could say that education is

deeply ingrained in our psyche it’s in

our mindset so the way we think and

generally I think that’s very good but I

think unfortunately sometimes we tend to

look upon education as a hierarchy with

universities

the very top and we just have this

subconscious belief that only the very

brightest and the best and the most

deserving gets University and get these

professional qualifications I believe

that we should look upon education and

training as a continuum which people can

dip in and out of all during their lives

now education systems throughout the

world have one thing in common

young people are staying in the

education systems much longer than they

used to and participation rates are

rising everywhere and the majority of

those young people take an examination

at terminal examination at the end of

their secondary schooling or their high

school whatever the colors it could be

the a-level in the UK community

International Baccalaureate the abattoir

in Germany are in Hong Kong the diploma

of secondary education in Ireland of

course we have the leaving certificates

it’s an exam now taken by well over 90%

of our young people it’s a very high

finishing race first second-level

schooling and it’s become a high status

exam and a high pressurising exam and

young people will tell you that they

feel under pressure in the run-up to the

exam and during the exam itself in

Ireland of course we do things

differently

we rely much more so than a lot of other

countries on determined and written

examination other countries make use of

practicals and oils and portfolios and

projects so men would have continuous

assessment and some element of teacher

assessment of their own students for

exam purposes we don’t rely almost

entirely on a written final exam as

we’re sort of Samaritan right in session

for those young people and you would

hear them complain sometimes that they

have so writing armed afterwards and

it’s hardly surprising but we do

something else differently in Ireland as

well we give it an extraordinary amount

of media coverage in fact no other

country in the world gives the

examination quite the same coverage as

we do we devote acres of space to an

analysis of the questions

the reaction of teachers and students

and if the reaction is a very strong

reaction but yet at the front page of

the newspapers or on television or on

radio and in fact the coverage we give

us has been studied by researchers from

Oxford University Center for educational

assessment and Queen’s University

Belfast and they concluded that the

coverage given in the Irish media and

I’m including social media and this is

extraordinary by international

comparisons if it also looked at by the

head of journalism in the national

university of ireland galway and i got

to take out an oath and course or

accurately because she’s an academic as

well so i’ve had me a curse on this she

wrote the following every June on the

Wednesday following the bank holiday

exam fever of epidemic proportions

appears to infect the media mindset the

temperature seems to rise year-on-year

and then the killer line the acres of

news coverage of the state examinations

equation with those of some natural

disaster or national emergency I’d have

to say guilty your honor

and the so extent because I was an

education rifle for quite a long time

and probably contributed to some of that

hype the exam get it huge coverage at

the spotlight the media spotlight

switches off abruptly when the exams

finishes but then it comes on again with

the greater intensity when the results

come out in August again a whole forest

of trees are felled to produce

newspapers which produce huge

supplements we contain graphs of the

number of awards in each subjects and

who got what grades how many grades were

given in every single subject and

they’re also very good tables which show

and not surprise anybody here that

Carolyn’s always do better than boys

when it comes to exam results with one

or two small exceptions and but the

coverage is really intense and then the

the the grades that those young people

gasp are converted into

called points for entry to higher

education but what’s interesting to note

is obviously together and they grade

you’ve got a higher points and then if

you get a D grade but I think what’s

interesting to note is the way the

question has changed and puffy asked

students when they get their results

when I did the Leaving Certificate a few

years ago and I was simply asked what

how’d you get on and so I was able to

boast about results in English and my

favorite subject was actually Latin not

the most popular subject nowadays and I

was able to class over than other

subjects where my performance was not

described as stellar it for the mildly

like maths and applied maths but I would

get at that away with that nowadays

because nowadays students are asked only

one question how many points did you get

it says if there’s a law that says you

have to get points for for entry to

higher education and the more points you

get the best room and if you get really

high points you have to go and do a

professional course someplace it’s some

university no university really suited

for a lot of young people but not for

everybody because there are other

options so there are other routes to

success and there’s a straight line

obviously from A to B but there’s also

what we call that the scenic route and

quite a lot of young people take that

and they can go in different routes by

ways of you in the equatorial the sexes

even they can come out of those and they

can go on a different path if they’re

aware of the various and the increasing

number of options that are available but

it’s not always that easy for them to

take that different and sometimes more

interesting routes and I know one young

person she a friend of my daughter’s she

was under pressure from the school

because she did very well in the Leaving

Cert to go to university but she decides

that she wants to do a further education

course in a rock school she had visions

of managing a rock band

and she didn’t realize her ambition and

that’s regards but what she did do was

develop her interest in the whole 80

area and set up her own company which is

now very successful and I met her at a

40th birthday party last week it wasn’t

mine in case you’re wondering and and

she was just back from our eighth trip

this year alone the states and I stayed

far on business purposes and so she had

gone down that scenic route if you will

it but as I said it’s not always easy to

take that route there is pressure from

their peers especially from parents and

except her parents were very

enlightening and they let her do what

she would let her pursue her own course

and there’s pressure from the schools in

some respects sometimes I think schools

subconsciously conveyed the message that

a khadeem in traditional academia

specialer somehow and I say it’s not

necessarily it’s not another example of

this kind of if you will academic

snobbery that I that is it also a true

story it involves the agency that the

government set up many years ago to

encourage multinationals to come to

Ireland and create jobs the Industrial

Development Authority and official from

the IEA was in a state-of-the-art IT

plant in the West of Ireland he was

rated to be some of the executives of

the American owned company I was

chatting to the receptionist a very

bright young woman and he said to her do

not think of doing a course than IT you

know you clearly get a job inside you’d

haven’t you learned a lot more money and

you’d have a much better career path you

could end up in the management position

here in a few years she said though

revealingly Arnaud says she my parents

would never let me work in a factory and

unfortunately that attitude I think

still prevails to some extent in Ireland

I don’t think we value vocational

training apprenticeships skilled

employment and off in this country I

give the example of the WorldSkills

competition which is held every two

years

not for nothing

as the skills Olympics they’re run in a

very competitive atmosphere you know

hundreds not thousands of young people

from all over the world competing in

skilled areas like aircraft maintenance

electrical engineering craft design

welding and so forth and Irish

apprentices traditionally do very well

in indoor scale as Olympics but I don’t

believe they’re honored sufficiently by

the wider society and I’d have to say by

the media and by the political

establishment when they come home the

next the 44th international competition

will be held at Abu Dhabi next year I

would hope that for two things warned

that the Irish participants do when once

again which I’m certain that they will

and they will come home laden with gold

and silver and bronze medals but I’d

really like to see them greeted at the

airport by the president of the country

who congratulate them and what they have

done for Ireland because they really are

ambassadors for this country and I think

they should be honoured as such and talk

about honoring other countries also

honor not just their their winners but

they also honor and value highly their

traditions of vocational training in

company training apprenticeships in ways

that we don’t always yes I’m thinking

particularly of Germany which has a

long-established tradition in that

regard and it’s a very close

relationship between the employers and

vocational colleges they design programs

and the right balance of on mix of

theory and practice and about half of

young Germans go into this system every

year and it’s been very successful in

terms of keeping the economy as an

expanding pace and holding that pace

during the recent recession because

during the recession youth unemployment

in Germany stayed static but it rose

very dramatically in other countries

including our own but also Italy Spain

and Greece

and unfortunately and many many young

people had to emigrate from from those

countries including your own but there

but there are very significant changes

taking place in education and training

in this country we have new

apprenticeships which are long overdue

and very well can we do traineeships new

internships we have a strategic plan for

the development of further education and

training or making greater use of

information technologies and other means

of communication and I think this is all

to the goods but we also much more

importantly we now have the structures

in place to create a world-class further

education and training system the

changes I’ve described amount to a

revolution if you will but so far it’s

been very quiet revolution I honestly

think we should be shouting about all

these changes from the rooftops so that

everybody will sit up and listen only

then I think when everybody realized

that there really are many different avenues to success thank you

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