[Music]
he wrote not too long ago hernán
casciari a writer and journalist
Argentine who of all professions
the one that most disgusted him was the legal profession
well I see by your face that even
Some may think the same but it is more
he was going to punish and said he could not find
reasons to understand why not all
the lawyers were prisoners who
we have not yet entered print
we are thinking that technology is going to
suppose a radical change in the
provision of legal services
but not only that but the world
of the right will change so
radical as a consequence of the
implantation and the destruction of
technology you are aware I
I think of all sectors of activity
have suffered a change or are suffering
a big change and as a result of
that technological irruption we see the
financial sector that through
fintech formulas we see in the sector
agricultural speaking of agropec and we see
the automotive as with the technical car
it seems that it is changing in a
permanent and we are all I believe that
users and consumers of that type of
platforms and yet it seems that the
legal world lags behind a
lateral and yet I would say that
I think that’s not the case, it ‘s more talk about
a current known as legal tec
where technology actually supposes
an impact within the provision of
legal services
when we talk about technology in the
legal area we can
to many of the technologies that you
already know in other areas think about
example in robotics think about the
artificial intelligence think about
example in masin learning think about
any kind of technology that
some way you can change the way you
that we are doing things says one
of the main gurus of the field
juridical is richard gasquet that in the
next 20 years the world of law
will change more than in all its history
past the ones that we study hard the
Roman law of the time of Justinian
we see how unfortunately the right does not
has changed too much in all of these
years in this all all these centuries without
However, we see how certain
technological breakthroughs do that what
that was traditional for us from
it suddenly changes and sometimes not even
we are aware of how that change
is operating says my father that the
movement is demonstrated by walking with what
which let me share with you
some examples of things that we are
seeing and what are happening to date
today one of the main
technological manufacturers to the global
world level launched a while ago a
artificial intelligence software
called watson watson has a cousin
jurist who is brown
of rose form that is basically engaged
to the following and is to give solution
legal basis to problems posed by
individuals and one traditionally has
a problem that apparently requires
of the presence or of the say of the
consult a lawyer and usually
We went to our lawyers where we
they received on an oak table
let’s say that with all the protocol that
corresponded we are seeing how
precisely this type of platforms what
what they do is they have a knowledge
absolutely giant embeded where they have
gone capturing all the information
jurisprudential of legal doctrine
positive that already exists what they do is
that somehow agglutinate the
process and are able to respond with
a huge reliability to the consultations
posed by customers and users
that obviously supposes a dissolution in
so much so that we somehow see as the
lawyer is somehow displaced or
at least part that is going to play a role
different this may seem
too bizarre and how good I do not
I go many times lawyer at the end to me
This is not going to impact me, you’ll see it in
something that will surely be for you
part of our day to day I am
convinced that most of us have bought
some kind of product or we have acquired
some service through some
internet platform and it is possible that
that we have had some bad
consistent experience is usually
recurrent that the product does not
We receive the product is defective
basically we do not like it and we want
exercise what is known in law
as the right of withdrawal
I basically want the product because
reluctantly or I want to make a claim
in the sense that it is today
we have like two great roads the first
is I’m going to a judicial proceeding already
you know that it is something long odious and not
always satisfactory and on the other hand
I have what digital platforms
have given me basically consistent in
an alternative resolution mechanism
of disputes I issue complaint the platform
the platform analyzes that complaint and issues
let’s say a resolution that will be
binding for both parties because
We have purchased both the salesperson
we have accepted in the terms and
conditions of that platform what
maybe we are not so conscious is that
those consultations are neither one nor two nor
three of the daily payroll but in the
large platforms we find ourselves with
Thousands
or tens of thousands of claims
daily and the most fun is that
support equipment that are behind
apparently jurists or for legal and
are not there is not critical that there is no
nobody means that instead there
someone doing that job and that
someone does not have arms or legs
but it is usually a software one
software that has learned what the
behaviors and the answers
habitual to the same typology of
questions and the answers again
they arrive in a friendly format where
many times we understand that on the other side
there is a person the reality is that no
it is not there there are many more examples
that I want to share with you for
that we realize how he has gone
changing all thinking for example in
an initiative that a while ago launched
one of the internet giants google
through its investment vehicle
entered a platform known as
roque player
roger is a repository absolutely
giant of digital forms when
I need a contract I do not need anymore
turn to my lawyer what I do
directly is that
in a marketplace on a platform
where instead of making the purchase in
place to consume music or consume
audiovisual content what I consume
they are legal contents
legal that can also be say
landed to the case the concrete case in
function of what the claims are
and the needs of each of these
users again is a dissolution a
change in how we access the
traditional provision of services
of legal services we have other
elements and other changes where to me
they like it because exposing a challenge results
that a while ago four students of
a British university and they challenged the
traditional knowledge system
Legal Advocacy
the lawyers know that we are not
Suspects of not having an extreme ego
and in this case they said is let’s
catch 100 lawyers from the 7 100
london lawyers of large firms and
we are going to compete and we are going to put
to compete with a machine that
competition consisted of
following 800 cases previously
resolved by courts and tribunals
we go in a space limited of time
so that the 100 minds compete
brilliant against a software by the
path on which we go you give yourself you can
intuit since with the conclusion of that
challenge was that the software was close to
a success of 90 percent was known
that he was able to intuit in 90 of the
cases what had been the sign of the
resolution and yet it is the group
select of great jurists stayed
just in a 70 in a 75 percent of
prediction about what there was
past and that they obviously do not
they knew again we see how the machine
trained and learned is capable of
produce a content and a response
that is sometimes more sophisticated than
which a priori gives the day the individual
but instruction does not come only
in business models the disruption to
Sometimes it comes within the individual himself
and it comes within the sector itself as
I do not know if you have heard about
some occasion of those known as
smart contract traditionally the
lawyers
let’s say we draft the contracts in
we adapt them in English and in
each of the languages where one is
feel relatively comfortable as it turns out
that in recent years and as
consequence of the irruption of a
technology that to date is
generating a lot of expectation as it is
block change it turns out that a
luck of contracts what they do is
that are self-executing
I think these understand pretty well
we talk about your washing machine
in fact there are those who say that the smart
contract is born for your washing machine
buy detergent as it turns out that
when that happened to us but when I
I’m going to put the washing machine, there’s no detergent left
which means that I can not
do the laundry I have to go to the
supermarket make the purchase back
put the detergent and get my
objective imagine in an already real world
we are not thinking about science fiction
In a long time our value
is connected to the internet is connected
for example to web pages it turns out that
also my washing machine has a contract
within that contract is a smart contract
that responds to an if pattern of yes
something happens unfolds
determined legal consequence which
is the washing machine identifies that there is no
detergent and what it does is that it runs
a purchase order how it is connected
to different internet platforms what
What do you do?
my
and supermarkets which I have used
traditionally or some kind of
supermarket comparators that performs
he buys and executes it in a
automatic that’s a contract I do not know
call him intelligent obedient but
responds to a certain pattern this
that may seem ridiculous in the field
of the washing machines however you can have
incidence in other sectors such as
example the insurer or the sector
banking imagine that any of
you are going to buy a car and when
buy a car instead of paying it at
what he does is he asks for a
financing if for whatever reason
a certain moment you do not
can you pay for your car the problem
actually the bank has it because
apparently he has delivered or has
allowed access to a good that
you are not able to return in
economic terms imagine that the
car the individual and the bank have
subscribed a smart contract again
where the car is connected to the internet
the day you have not paid the bill
corresponding when you go with
your key to start the car and
you know what’s going to happen the car does not
turn on
will not turn on because to receive an order
determined when a
parameter has not been paid the letter is
deploys a legal consequence
consisting of the fact that the car
will not start the technology the right
They go hand in hand
they look for a common goal and in the end with
a consequence and it is giving certainty to give
security and give comfort to
needs that raise both the
individuals like societies like
all the economic operators that are
they find in society with all this
what am I saying can you imagine
that indeed the world is
changing and in fact when we impart
those in the university we realize
that lawyers say when I studied
my career and not so long ago and
It turns out that I studied more but always
I say I studied more Latin than English
with which you can already imagine that
Latin has been too useful in the face of
the provision of legal services to
my clients beyond some Latinjo
that always looks good in an environment
bounded
note that English obviously to date
today is still a let’s say a
differential and a common language but as
he said before in the faculty the lawyers
they do not just study right I’m
in law and study programming and
they study law and I’m in programming
basically with the goal not only
to know your sector but to be able
to use the tools that the
technology has put our
disposition so that we can
be efficient in providing
legal services if this again
I return to terms of challenge if one goes with
your civil code on paper and a pencil and the
another has a supercomputer
intelligent that is capable of solving the
problems that we are raising
we find that the conclusion or
difference in contribution of
value of value is completely different
in one scenario and in another this poses
you can imagine many derivatives
not only ethical but also
legal and that is if I go to the lawyer
and the lawyer as a result of a
gross negligence or even of malice
tell you bad faith
it results in a result that causes me
a prejudice the civil code in my book
favorite says that lawyer must be
responsible for the consequences
explain everything but what happens
when I ask software that
It happens when I ask a chat
voice and the chat answers me today
those are questions that while the
Roman law is serving us for
try to trace what the objective
legislation
still requires a certain path or
a certain journey until we can reach
place that we are looking for or
we are trying to find that that
solution
when we talk about my next
lawyer will be a robot at the end gives a
feeling like the lawyer is going to
be replaced or the lawyer
finally it will be replaced i invite you
to reflection and above all it is a
reflection that I do to myself I do not know if to
I care too much that a robot
do my job to me what worries me
is that a robot charges my payroll many
Thank you
[Applause]
he wrote not too long ago hernán
casciari a writer and journalist
Argentine who of all professions
the one that most disgusted him was the legal profession
well I see by your face that even
Some may think the same but it is more
he was going to punish and said he could not find
reasons to understand why not all
the lawyers were prisoners who
we have not yet entered print
we are thinking that technology is going to
suppose a radical change in the
provision of legal services
but not only that but the world
of the right will change so
radical as a consequence of the
implantation and the destruction of
technology you are aware I
I think of all sectors of activity
have suffered a change or are suffering
a big change and as a result of
that technological irruption we see the
financial sector that through
fintech formulas we see in the sector
agricultural speaking of agropec and we see
the automotive as with the technical car
it seems that it is changing in a
permanent and we are all I believe that
users and consumers of that type of
platforms and yet it seems that the
legal world lags behind a
lateral and yet I would say that
I think that’s not the case, it ‘s more talk about
a current known as legal tec
where technology actually supposes
an impact within the provision of
legal services
when we talk about technology in the
legal area we can
to many of the technologies that you
already know in other areas think about
example in robotics think about the
artificial intelligence think about
example in masin learning think about
any kind of technology that
some way you can change the way you
that we are doing things says one
of the main gurus of the field
juridical is richard gasquet that in the
next 20 years the world of law
will change more than in all its history
past the ones that we study hard the
Roman law of the time of Justinian
we see how unfortunately the right does not
has changed too much in all of these
years in this all all these centuries without
However, we see how certain
technological breakthroughs do that what
that was traditional for us from
it suddenly changes and sometimes not even
we are aware of how that change
is operating says my father that the
movement is demonstrated by walking with what
which let me share with you
some examples of things that we are
seeing and what are happening to date
today one of the main
technological manufacturers to the global
world level launched a while ago a
artificial intelligence software
called watson watson has a cousin
jurist who is brown
of rose form that is basically engaged
to the following and is to give solution
legal basis to problems posed by
individuals and one traditionally has
a problem that apparently requires
of the presence or of the say of the
consult a lawyer and usually
We went to our lawyers where we
they received on an oak table
let’s say that with all the protocol that
corresponded we are seeing how
precisely this type of platforms what
what they do is they have a knowledge
absolutely giant embeded where they have
gone capturing all the information
jurisprudential of legal doctrine
positive that already exists what they do is
that somehow agglutinate the
process and are able to respond with
a huge reliability to the consultations
posed by customers and users
that obviously supposes a dissolution in
so much so that we somehow see as the
lawyer is somehow displaced or
at least part that is going to play a role
different this may seem
too bizarre and how good I do not
I go many times lawyer at the end to me
This is not going to impact me, you’ll see it in
something that will surely be for you
part of our day to day I am
convinced that most of us have bought
some kind of product or we have acquired
some service through some
internet platform and it is possible that
that we have had some bad
consistent experience is usually
recurrent that the product does not
We receive the product is defective
basically we do not like it and we want
exercise what is known in law
as the right of withdrawal
I basically want the product because
reluctantly or I want to make a claim
in the sense that it is today
we have like two great roads the first
is I’m going to a judicial proceeding already
you know that it is something long odious and not
always satisfactory and on the other hand
I have what digital platforms
have given me basically consistent in
an alternative resolution mechanism
of disputes I issue complaint the platform
the platform analyzes that complaint and issues
let’s say a resolution that will be
binding for both parties because
We have purchased both the salesperson
we have accepted in the terms and
conditions of that platform what
maybe we are not so conscious is that
those consultations are neither one nor two nor
three of the daily payroll but in the
large platforms we find ourselves with
Thousands
or tens of thousands of claims
daily and the most fun is that
support equipment that are behind
apparently jurists or for legal and
are not there is not critical that there is no
nobody means that instead there
someone doing that job and that
someone does not have arms or legs
but it is usually a software one
software that has learned what the
behaviors and the answers
habitual to the same typology of
questions and the answers again
they arrive in a friendly format where
many times we understand that on the other side
there is a person the reality is that no
it is not there there are many more examples
that I want to share with you for
that we realize how he has gone
changing all thinking for example in
an initiative that a while ago launched
one of the internet giants google
through its investment vehicle
entered a platform known as
roque player
roger is a repository absolutely
giant of digital forms when
I need a contract I do not need anymore
turn to my lawyer what I do
directly is that
in a marketplace on a platform
where instead of making the purchase in
place to consume music or consume
audiovisual content what I consume
they are legal contents
legal that can also be say
landed to the case the concrete case in
function of what the claims are
and the needs of each of these
users again is a dissolution a
change in how we access the
traditional provision of services
of legal services we have other
elements and other changes where to me
they like it because exposing a challenge results
that a while ago four students of
a British university and they challenged the
traditional knowledge system
Legal Advocacy
the lawyers know that we are not
Suspects of not having an extreme ego
and in this case they said is let’s
catch 100 lawyers from the 7 100
london lawyers of large firms and
we are going to compete and we are going to put
to compete with a machine that
competition consisted of
following 800 cases previously
resolved by courts and tribunals
we go in a space limited of time
so that the 100 minds compete
brilliant against a software by the
path on which we go you give yourself you can
intuit since with the conclusion of that
challenge was that the software was close to
a success of 90 percent was known
that he was able to intuit in 90 of the
cases what had been the sign of the
resolution and yet it is the group
select of great jurists stayed
just in a 70 in a 75 percent of
prediction about what there was
past and that they obviously do not
they knew again we see how the machine
trained and learned is capable of
produce a content and a response
that is sometimes more sophisticated than
which a priori gives the day the individual
but instruction does not come only
in business models the disruption to
Sometimes it comes within the individual himself
and it comes within the sector itself as
I do not know if you have heard about
some occasion of those known as
smart contract traditionally the
lawyers
let’s say we draft the contracts in
we adapt them in English and in
each of the languages where one is
feel relatively comfortable as it turns out
that in recent years and as
consequence of the irruption of a
technology that to date is
generating a lot of expectation as it is
block change it turns out that a
luck of contracts what they do is
that are self-executing
I think these understand pretty well
we talk about your washing machine
in fact there are those who say that the smart
contract is born for your washing machine
buy detergent as it turns out that
when that happened to us but when I
I’m going to put the washing machine, there’s no detergent left
which means that I can not
do the laundry I have to go to the
supermarket make the purchase back
put the detergent and get my
objective imagine in an already real world
we are not thinking about science fiction
In a long time our value
is connected to the internet is connected
for example to web pages it turns out that
also my washing machine has a contract
within that contract is a smart contract
that responds to an if pattern of yes
something happens unfolds
determined legal consequence which
is the washing machine identifies that there is no
detergent and what it does is that it runs
a purchase order how it is connected
to different internet platforms what
What do you do?
my
and supermarkets which I have used
traditionally or some kind of
supermarket comparators that performs
he buys and executes it in a
automatic that’s a contract I do not know
call him intelligent obedient but
responds to a certain pattern this
that may seem ridiculous in the field
of the washing machines however you can have
incidence in other sectors such as
example the insurer or the sector
banking imagine that any of
you are going to buy a car and when
buy a car instead of paying it at
what he does is he asks for a
financing if for whatever reason
a certain moment you do not
can you pay for your car the problem
actually the bank has it because
apparently he has delivered or has
allowed access to a good that
you are not able to return in
economic terms imagine that the
car the individual and the bank have
subscribed a smart contract again
where the car is connected to the internet
the day you have not paid the bill
corresponding when you go with
your key to start the car and
you know what’s going to happen the car does not
turn on
will not turn on because to receive an order
determined when a
parameter has not been paid the letter is
deploys a legal consequence
consisting of the fact that the car
will not start the technology the right
They go hand in hand
they look for a common goal and in the end with
a consequence and it is giving certainty to give
security and give comfort to
needs that raise both the
individuals like societies like
all the economic operators that are
they find in society with all this
what am I saying can you imagine
that indeed the world is
changing and in fact when we impart
those in the university we realize
that lawyers say when I studied
my career and not so long ago and
It turns out that I studied more but always
I say I studied more Latin than English
with which you can already imagine that
Latin has been too useful in the face of
the provision of legal services to
my clients beyond some Latinjo
that always looks good in an environment
bounded
note that English obviously to date
today is still a let’s say a
differential and a common language but as
he said before in the faculty the lawyers
they do not just study right I’m
in law and study programming and
they study law and I’m in programming
basically with the goal not only
to know your sector but to be able
to use the tools that the
technology has put our
disposition so that we can
be efficient in providing
legal services if this again
I return to terms of challenge if one goes with
your civil code on paper and a pencil and the
another has a supercomputer
intelligent that is capable of solving the
problems that we are raising
we find that the conclusion or
difference in contribution of
value of value is completely different
in one scenario and in another this poses
you can imagine many derivatives
not only ethical but also
legal and that is if I go to the lawyer
and the lawyer as a result of a
gross negligence or even of malice
tell you bad faith
it results in a result that causes me
a prejudice the civil code in my book
favorite says that lawyer must be
responsible for the consequences
explain everything but what happens
when I ask software that
It happens when I ask a chat
voice and the chat answers me today
those are questions that while the
Roman law is serving us for
try to trace what the objective
legislation
still requires a certain path or
a certain journey until we can reach
place that we are looking for or
we are trying to find that that
solution
when we talk about my next
lawyer will be a robot at the end gives a
feeling like the lawyer is going to
be replaced or the lawyer
finally it will be replaced i invite you
to reflection and above all it is a
reflection that I do to myself I do not know if to
I care too much that a robot
do my job to me what worries me
is that a robot charges my payroll many
Thank you
[Applause]
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