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Syria, was it worth it? | Asmaa Jaber | TEDxVlerickBusinessSchool


hello firstly two things actually three

I’m not 22 and 25 start teaching at 22

but the end of PhD at 22 to weird

I’m Aldi weirdo so I know 25 firstly I

wanna apologize for my French accent but

you know I’m a product of the French

educational system and we’re

internationally well known for that so

sorry in advance and secondly I will

have no slides not because I didn’t want

to prepare some but because my topic is

way too painful

for images actually so Syria was it

worth it this question I know you heard

it a lot I know you thought about it at

some point even if you’ve never heard of

Syria before even if you’re not that

interested even if you don’t study

politics or don’t follow the news Syria

was it worth it almost half a million of

dead people hundreds of thousands of

disappeared people millions of displaced

and refugees I don’t want to talk a lot

about the numbers because this is what

you hear a lot this is what you hear and

this is why this question always comes

back Syria was it really worth it

so I want to give you a reply maybe to

this question tonight maybe one reply

maybe one answer my answer and the

answer of a lot of Syrians because I’m

I’m Syrian myself today I’m not gonna

talk as a French I’m also French I’m

gonna talk as a Syrian Syrian from Homs

and Hama to martyr cities a Syrian who

also lost a lot of people so it’s not

because I’m here now that it’s easier

for me because I didn’t lose anyone I

lost 30 people of my family already some

of them under torture I lost one cousin

killed by – by Isis and his own home

while he was sleeping he was a rescuer

so Syria was it worth it really people

who you know saw other nations other

countries being free neighboring

countries asking for their freedoms they

tried

then yeah they went on protest was

peaceful at the beginning blah blah blah

you know and then it became a civil war

was it really worth it

well maybe a Syrian who died or a Syrian

who was in prison or a Syrian who was

displaced right now or a Syrian who’s in

this room and some of them are here can

talk to you and convey to you anything

even when they’re here because of the

language maybe thank God I can talk so I

will try to tell you about our story was

it really worth it why not just living

you know giving up on freedoms freedom

of speech free human rights giving up

why not just ain’t like that but staying

alive well you people I think you

haven’t tried not having this basic

freedom the freedom of speaking I think

you haven’t tried not having it in your

life I hope you have it I hope you never

try of course when I was in Syria I

lived for a while in Syria of course I I

was like I didn’t have it entirely but

you know it was temporary so it’s fine

but there is something worse actually

something that I think makes my answer

maybe interesting I’d say I tried losing

any not even freedom any possibility of

speaking freely for myself because I had

cancer myself Tom cancer exactly

actually this is funny and sad the exact

same week the student evolution started

my tongue was cut for the second time so

several times I completely lost the

ability to speak as you can maybe see I

love speaking I completely lost it it’s

not like this is the only thing that I

went through even physically because I I

always think of torture you know this is

what I have in mind that I think was it

worth it torture it’s I think it’s the

worst thing maybe you can agree on that

it’s the worst thing that can happen

maybe worse than death I don’t know so I

was disabled myself because of cancer

because the surgeries I had I was a

corpse honest

we are not exaggerating unfortunately I

could only move my fingers even morphine

I didn’t take it that well I could feel

only pain from head to toe I could feel

only pain but I swear I’m not gonna you

know and numerate my medical file

because you know what it would take one

hour but you know what take everything I

even lost my hearing twice also take

everything not being able to move being

in pain all the time everything not

being able to to stand not being able to

be independent depending on people for

anything not being able to lift a glass

of water take everything I swear to you

not being able to speak for yourself is

worse because when you lose when you

lose this when you lose this everybody

to just speak for yourself just be able

to say like no stop I don’t want to take

that I don’t wanna take this man I’m not

gonna do that

please go please leave my room right now

you can’t even say that you can’t even

say I want to go to the bathroom right

actually I couldn’t even eat or drink so

those things are basic things in life I

was hungry I was really very hungry for

days and days and days

I was very thirsty I couldn’t swallow

anything but still not being able to

speak it’s worse because when you lose

this I don’t know I can’t really explain

it to you I hope you’ll never be able to

try yourself I hope you’ll never be I

hope you never go through that really

but you’re nothing anymore you’re

nothing people they don’t even look at

you anymore they don’t consider you

anymore you’re nothing you’re just a

part of the wall when you can speak for

yourself

so was it worth it still okay it’s

horrible blah blah blah freedom human

rights of course idealistically it’s

worth it but so many dead like so many

dead people so costly so painful

well there is something really important

that you have to know when you’re in

that situation it’s not like you have a

choice and when I really like what

fascinates me with this question that I

always hear myself in my work at snow

spore from my students all the time was

it really worth it I want to answer I

mean ask this if you could ask this if

this was a choice so to let you know and

then you can judge for yourself about

was it a choice or not firstly talking

about Syrians you have to know when you

don’t have the basic freedom of speaking

it’s not only that you can’t like I

don’t know go and criticize the

President on TV we’re not even dreaming

of that when you don’t have this basic

freedom well you can denounce a husband

who beats you you can everything is

corrupt and you’re you’re speaking what

you say your words are amount to nothing

no one wants to hear you a child has no

rights in Syria a woman has no rights in

Syria

everyone can humiliate you if they’re

from the system you can say anything

they can beat you beat you to death

sometimes you can say anything so if I

had to take one example and this one

example is actually why this whole

evolution that should cost the movement

it’s so costly now it’s really a war

it’s a mess right now

chaos why it started I guess you know

why but still imagine yourself you’re in

Syria you’re in the country is corrupt

you have no freedoms you’re you will

stay at a certain level or your life

because if you don’t want to accept

being corrupt you’re not going to evolve

any way or the other

anyway I think only only grow worse but

you’re you’re just you just don’t say

anything you just shut up I’m sorry I’m

vulgar but like I worried so much I I

mean like I think I have the right to so

what I need to say over the world I say

it so yeah you’re only right is to shut

up and you’re like okay it’s too

dangerous

I’m gonna shut up and then kids kids

like from 5 to 16 they did the mistake

of writing things on walls and

and desks in their schools so they’re

taking their tortured so you’re your own

kid is tortured and you’re supposed to

never say anything about it so that

that’s what that’s when people were like

who cares and I’m just gonna protest

because I want my kid back and they were

shot and you know the rest of the story

is not where I want to go so is it

really a choice yes yeah it’s it’s

painful I know it’s horrible I lost so

many people myself

it’s horrible I can’t tell you how much

it’s horrible you know when you when you

just want to have just basic dignity

when you just want to just be a human

being

you’re not asking for anything big

you’re not asking for you’re not asking

working for big dreams even you just

want to have your humanity because when

you lose I felt when I lost my own

capacity to speak I thought I was not a

human anymore this was the worst thing

ever so when you were friendly with that

it’s not like to me asking Syrians was

it really worth it is like asking me is

it really was it really worth it going

through treatment because actually I’m

in pain all the time pain never went

away I have a lot of complications now

I’m talking to you I’m in horrible pain

I’m in pain in my tongue in my eyes

in my ears the left one especially in my

neck where I have a huge scar and other

places I ain’t been old all the time but

you I don’t know I don’t think anyone

would ask me was it really worth it

trying to cure your tongue you know you

could just have given up and never

talked again

you know it’s maybe it would have been

easier this is this is not a choice this

is not a choice for us it did go in ways

we didn’t want to but that’s that’s not

like it’s when you do when you refuse to

live like you know in your life that’s

worse than being an animal in a zoo

because you the animal doesn’t really

care about not being able to speak but

you care so when you refuse that the

moment Sharif

and you just want to be human I don’t

see how anyone can ask you is it worth

it I mean what happens next is because

this world is crazy people are corrupt

people are bad and you know yeah it’s

really painful this is getting really

long but that’s because when you let go

of something it’s so hard to take it

back as the previous speaker was saying

you let go of the girl well now run to

find her again so when you let go of

very important things as human rights

this is what happened in Syria people

were aware that we were aware that we

were being taken our rights but we were

silent because it was way too dangerous

so when things go bad things can go bad

in one second because chaos is so easy

destroying is so easy you know messing

up your room is so easy cleaning up

after it takes more time so can you

imagine with a whole country you let all

the rights go away well yeah it does

take time on my just my own example it

was so easy losing my health it happened

in a few weeks in a few months and I was

nothing I was I was nothing I wasn’t I

was honestly I was a corpse I was

disgusting it’s so hard to get it back

it’s so hard it takes so much work

hospitals appointments surgeries I can’t

even tell you how long it is just for

one person so can you imagine the scale

of the whole country we we lost so much

gaining it back yeah it takes a lot of

time yeah it’s costly yes but it’s

because people like Syrians nowadays

people like them here in Europe did that

100 or 200 years ago that me and you can

be here right now

and I think it’s worth it that as a

Syrian as the daughter of Syrians I have

a safe place to talk I have a place

where I can be the teacher political

science instance probably at 23 years

old I think it’s worth it yeah so yes

it’s costly yes it’s it’s horrible it’s

horrible but asking was it worth it well

it’s

a choice it wasn’t a choice so today

when you hear all that just know that a

lot of young Syrians who even died wrote

even in their will

the days where I was finally free were

the best days of my life the days when I

can when I could talk again where the

best days of my life I don’t care about

being in pain I’m talking I’m free I’m

here with you yes I’m in pain yes I’m

going through hell every day I swear

yes as Syrians we will it’s so hard it’s

so hard but we don’t want to stay living

like less than nothing we want to be

just you want to be human beings we want

to be like everyone else want to be like

you

this is what Syrians are so when you

please you can go home from with one

thing from my talk when you hear was it

worth it when you hear all those numbers

the dead people to injure the displace

the refugees don’t think that this was a

revolution for death don’t think that

this was for destruction that this is a

war yes it became a war but Syrian

people when we international community

managed to have a ceasefire they went on

protest again just a few weeks ago

because they’re still in it they still

wanted they haven’t given up this is

what they want and they’re saying they

say we won’t give up we want freedoms

want democracy it’s still worth it for

them so please don’t think that we did

all that because we don’t care about

dying because I don’t no no no this

wasn’t evolution for death this was a

revolution for life

for a good life for life with dignity

for human life real human life this is

what we want and yes no matter how how

much costly it is I can tell you and

many Syrians behind me some of them here

even I swear in Syria outside of Syria

we human rights activists we people who

believe

in freedom in human dignity human rights

in democracy and civil society we people

who believe in the future we believe in

human beings we believe in humanity we

believe in life but the real life the

good life not life as as less than

nothing we will never stop trying we

will never stop trying I will never stop

trying to defend human rights in Syria

and elsewhere I will never give up no

matter how costly that is I will never

give up supporting the Syrian people and

anyone asking for their freedoms so

remember this was a revolution for life

and yes life as you all know life is

hard sometimes you all here have goals

you all here dream you all here work

hard

you wake up early sometimes it’s hard so

yeah you would all agree with me you all

have your struggles I know it you would

agree with me

life is hard sometimes I know it well

you know it well but even when it’s hard

life is always worth it and this is what

we’re doing in Syria I hope you’ll

remember it thank you so much for

listening to me [Applause]

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