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Minorities and global health | Helena Nordenstedt | TEDxKTH


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well thank you very much for that

introduction and thank you very much for

making me a professor I’m only an

assistant professor but professors

sounds good

I’ll keep it so I’m very glad and very

honored to be here today and I do that’s

my educational background but nowadays I

actually what I do most is education I’m

a teacher and I teach global health and

I am a teacher really really like

statistics just like you said and I’m

into numbers and graphs so I just come

in here to this places it’s like heaven

I can teach you global health and I can

use my graphs and you may be like them

and so teaching global health is trying

to show you how health varies globally

how health varies in the world how

health varies between countries and I

will do that today showing you only one

graph but I will also show you how

health the differs not only between

countries but within countries between

majority and minority populations and

knowing the background knowing what

things look like when it comes to health

is a good condition or is a condition to

then start talk about integration you

need to have the basic facts first so I

said I would talk about health what is

health it’s health just the opposite of

disease the opposite of death there is

quite a clear w/o definition health is a

state of complete physical mental and

social well-being I take it again health

is a state of complete physical mental

and social well-being have you ever been

in perfect health according to that

definition I have once

let me tell you when that was it was

actually my last few days in high school

just before I was to graduate I was on

my way to school

biking biking down a hill the Sun was in

the air the birds were singing it was

quite warm and I was so happy I knew it

was really my last days of school and as

I was biking down this hill with the air

in my hair that was before I became an

adult started using a bike helmet

I really felt exactly like that like

that definition I was in perfect health

and then at the bottom of the hill there

was this tiny little patch of gravel you

know that those little patches of gravel

that are still there after the winter

and I didn’t see it so I was turning

just wear that patch was of gravel and I

slipped and I fell and I hurt my knee I

didn’t hurt myself that but my I

scratched my bike so I was really

worried what would my parents say how

was I to afford to fix the bike and just

like that within less than one second

I lost my perfect state of health now I

hope you have all yourself try to

remember when you were in perfect health

anyone in perfect health tonight no okay

maybe that’s that um but how do we

measure health should we measure it as

just the absence of the disease or death

or should we try to go more for the wgo

definition which would be more something

like the dross National Happiness index

that is popular in Bhutan well actually

in global health we go for something in

between we use average life expectancy

an average life expectancy is an

interesting measure it is the average

life expectancy of let’s take a baby

born in Sweden today in Stockholm today

maybe a dumbbell where I spend half of

my time so we have a baby born today and

it’s a girl

this baby girl can expect to live on

average 84 years if you spurn today

which is pretty amazing 84 years 8 years

if it’s a boy which is still pretty good

so the average life expectancy for

Sweden is 8 to 2 years today that is for

a baby born today if all the conditions

remain the same conditions never remain

the same we all have technological

improvements we have sometimes we have

epidemics that strike like the Spanish

flu we have amazing medical discoveries

with new cures but if all everything

remains the same today that is what we

call the average life expectancy and it

is quite a good measure of what type of

health and health care we can offer the

baby born in Sweden today so with what

we have today on average this little

baby girl will live 84 years so average

life expectancy that is it’s not a

perfect measure we don’t know exactly

that it is 80 4.03 in Sweden but it’s

around there plus – and when we want to

see the big picture we want to compare

between countries it’s a good enough

measure so now I’ve introduced you to

health and perfect health and how we

measure health now it’s time to show you

my graph you might have seen this graph

before because this is a Gapminder graph

and it has been shown by Hans Rosling

ruler rustling I’m not willing and the

other Gapminder professionals before but

let me take you through it and to do

that I need a stick to show you properly

so this is the whole world in one graph

on the vertical axis we have average

life expectancy because it ranges from

50 all the way up to 80 of there even

82.5 and then on this axis on the

horizontal axis we have income per

capita so it goes all the way from Z

after 100,000 on a log scale and then we

have all the bubbles here which

represents countries of the world there

are about 200 countries in the world

there about 200 bubbles in this chart so

each bubble represents a country and the

size of the bubble represents the size

of the population of the country big

bubble means big population and then we

have the color of the bubble which

represents what region the country

belongs to and you have the green

countries you have the map over there so

you can see but you have all the green

countries they are the Americas you have

the yellow countries European countries

the blue bubbles they are African

countries and the red ones are Asian

countries and with these facts you

should be able to figure out the two big

red bubbles this one and this one they

are Indian China so when we look at this

you can see that there’s a clear

relation between how rich a country is

and how long people live in that country

how healthy they are in that country

right because there are no countries up

here that live long and have no money

and there are no countries down here

that have a lot of money but but do not

live long there’s a clear relation

between health and money right but to

make some kind of to make it more

comprehensible when we show this graph

and we use it we want to divide the

world into categories so we can talk

about countries in the same cattery

category we can compare it with

countries in other categories and before

in the old times maybe what you learnt

is cool we talked about developing

countries and developed countries can

you draw a line here and tell me where

that line is when does a country cross

the line of becoming a developed country

is it here

is it here is it here can’t really say

can you there’s no really intuitive way

of doing it is it that we don’t use the

terms developing and developed anymore

but somehow they these this terminology

has been so popular that it has stuck

and you will meet it everywhere even

within global health people still use it

but in official terms the World Bank for

instance they don’t use it anymore so

hopefully more and more we’re gonna

leave this terminology behind instead

what we do is we use World Bank income

categories and when we do that all the

countries that have an income above

$12,500 become high-income countries 1

billion people live in high-income

countries and here you find a big green

bubble that’s the u.s. a big red bubble

Japan and most of the yellow bubbles

European countries then we have the

upper middle income countries with 2.5

billion people how many people are there

in the world about 7 so 2.5 billion

people live in upper middle-income

countries and here we can find a country

like China and then we come to the lower

middle-income countries where another

2.5 billion people live and here you can

find a country like India and finally

the last billion live in low-income

countries where you find a country like

the Democratic Republic of Congo so four

categories and most of the people most

of the 7 billion 5 billion they live in

the middle there’s 1 billion of their

high income there’s 1 billion down here

ok but you cannot see that even though

there are clear differences between the

categories there are also differences

within each category you can take a

country in the lower middle income

category here like Vietnam and

parrot to Nigeria down here they have

almost the same income but very

different life expectancies so I said

there’s a clear relation but it seems to

be important what you do with the money

that you have so just to show you the

average life expectancy in low-income

countries it’s 61 in lower middle

67 in upper middle 74 and in high-income

countries 81 so very close to the

Swedish average and Sweden is one of the

it’s actually the yellow bubble up there

it’s 82 and now you have the world in

front of you now what we’re going to do

we are going to look at countries and

within countries and compare majority

and minority populations so let’s see

let’s start with the u.s. in the u.s.

there are quite a few minorities I will

only take a look at the indigenous

population of the US and the u.s. in the

average life expectancy in the u.s. is

79 years the indigenous population in

the US has a life expectancy of 74 it’s

about five years lower it’s this typical

only for the u.s. let’s take a look at a

few other high-income countries with

minority populations first you take a

look at Denmark our neighboring country

which has within the Kingdom of Denmark

you can find the autonomous country of

Greenland which is a huge island in the

Arctic and about 1% of the population in

all of Denmark lives in Greenland and

most of them are into it life expectance

in Denmark is 80 and in Greenland it’s

finally take a look at Australia in

Australia we have the same life

expectancy as a Sweden it’s 82 and the

indigenous population of Australia it’s

10 years less 10-year of a difference

here so why do even though we have

Australia we have Denmark we have the US

why do the indigenous populations of

these countries lives much shorter than

the majority populations they’re very

tiny parts of the countries in a whole

they make up 1 to 3 percent of the

population but why do they live so much

shorter there seems to be something

happening with integration into modern

life there seems to be consequences of

it so if you go to look to see what the

causes of disease and death are in these

indigenous populations you will find out

that the rates of alcohol related

diseases are much higher in indigenous

populations and also that suicide rates

are much higher indigenous populations

there also seems to be diseases related

to too little integration and that is

what do I mean by that – little

integration that with that I mean infant

mortality child mortality is somewhat

higher in indigenous populations than it

is in the majority populations and –

this is because lack of proper access to

health care it’s not much higher but it

is higher in all these 3 indigenous

populations so – men too much or too

little integration ok we looked at

high-income countries now let’s take a

look at upper middle income countries

and I’ll keep the US as a reference and

for upper middle income countries

I choose Romania instead of China

because Romania has a minority that has

become quite well-known to us here in

Sweden Romania has the Roma as a

minority and the Roma they constitute

about 3% of the Romanian population many

of the Roma

if you have in search of a better life

come to Sweden so therefore they’re

quite well-known to us so how is life

expectancy for the Roma let me first

tell you it’s not easy to find date on

these things that’s my job I try to find

data every day for different types of

health statistics but when it comes to

looking for minorities it’s not easy and

why is that is it because governments

don’t want to know well in some cases

maybe yes but also to collect data on

minorities the person who identifies as

belonging to a minority must also report

that he belongs to this minority when

the data is collected and in many cases

this is not happening so it’s it’s quite

a lot of underreporting going on

you know Romania has a life expectancy

reflecting all the social or the

cultural or the educational differences

between the Roma population and the

majority population in Romania what

about lower middle income countries here

we go for India and in India there are

so many different minorities and

hundreds of them and they actually call

themselves a lot of them they belong to

something called scheduled tribes and

sometimes when we talk about tribes we

think that that’s something of the past

colonial but this is the official name

scheduled tribes there are big scheduled

tribes like the Gujarati with several

million people belonging to them and

there are small scheduled tribes with

only a few hundred members and the life

expectancy of the scheduled tribes is

not that low actually it’s about

comparing to India which is 67

it’s about 63 to 64 so 3 to 4 years less

and I did not find when I looked through

all the data I did not find any country

with a life expected to lower the life

and then finally let’s go to low-income

countries

and look at Congo the Democratic

Republic of Congo and I choose Congo

Congo is close to my heart

I worked there as a doctor as of several

years ago and I really got to see with

my own eyes

the reason why the life expectancy in

Congress only 58 we have a high maternal

mortality mother’s die it’s horrible

mother’s side children die from diseases

that are easily treatable life

expectancies 58 in Congo there are also

many many many minorities and some of

them live in the rainforest one of them

is a group called the FF pygmies or the

FE people and the life expectancy now

we’re not talking about data now we’re

talking about expect of estimations or

observations of people who have lived

with Fe pygmies it’s one somewhere down

here I think actually it’s rather down

there but I couldn’t fit that into my

graph so it’s here it’s probably about

30 to 35 so more than 20 years less than

the life expectancy of Congo so now that

we have this is my final graph now that

we have it all in front of us what

conclusions can we draw but can we see

when we have this in front of us well

first of all if we take a look at the

countries the high-income countries and

the upper middle income countries we see

that we have these big differences

between minority and majority

populations with up to ten years

difference in life expectancy right you

can also say that it seems like in lower

middle-income countries these

differences are not as big because most

people have access to basic health care

and going to school when taking in just

an example at least there are still

differences but they’re not as big here

the majority populations have access to

the best form of health care and then we

have a life expectancy like this and

finally the life expectancy of the F

epidemy is 30 to 35

sometimes we tend to talk about these

but people living in the rainforest as

we’d romanticize they live in ecological

balance with the nature it’s fantastic

let me take a look at this and what you

see is that they do not live in

ecological balance with nature at the

diary like illogical balance with nature

child mortality of 40% more than half

sometimes of the children do not ever

reach adult age so that we also can

maybe not see in this picture but what

we know from history is that all the

countries in the lower middle upper

middle and high-income countries what

they have done is that as they have

become richer and healthier they have

taken the minorities with them so the

health of the minorities have become

better at the same time as the health of

the majority populations and actually as

the countries have become richer the gap

has become smaller and there is no

example of a country that first achieved

perfect equal health for everyone and

then started to rise all these countries

have been raised a rising with some

people having a higher better health and

some people having lower health but

raising rising together and my take-home

message is I would like you to keep two

thoughts in your mind at the same time

if you can do that first of all it’s

horrible that we have these 10 year

different system there are differences

between minorities and majorities

they’re still there they’re there

they’re clear you’ve seen them but there

is no minority in all these three income

groups that has a lower life expectancy

than the average life expectancy of

low-income countries than the average

don’t forget the low-income countries so

keep this spectrum in your in your heads

and that will make my day as a teacher

thank you very much [Applause]

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