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Metaphor & Pain | Shane Neilson | TEDxWesternU


I’m taking office attack of Technology I

have no slides on them the dinosaur so I

have these paper these paper things in

my hand but I might refer to I have

attention deficit disorder so you know

there were pretty things up on slides I

just took this dragon stare at them with

you I am a I’m a physician I work in

Guelph material also a scholar of a

blooding scholar English literature

cultural studies at McMaster University

and I studied the representations but I

want to tell you some anecdotes you may

wonder why I’m here today this

particular panel has a large amount of

scientific content for the TEDx talk

today and I wonder how did the family

doctor getting the bill well I came here

a couple months ago I was invited by

Josh who’s a PhD at Western and I was

invited because I’m a poet but also

because of a medical doctor bill that

particular Dave was science torture and

so I was allowed in the door based in my

province as medical doctor but I’m sure

you know that most physicians actually

aren’t scientists that’s going to become

ironic as my Cochrane fools I tell you

another anecdote this one involves my

marriage and it was in was in 2003 I was

in Halifax Nova Scotia should just be on

the northwestern I was at a Commissioner

Bose office I was trying to get a

marriage license with my wife we’re

sitting in front of this middle-aged

lady who’s wanted to break down her

occupation required its toes and so in

response to a question as to what I did

I thought well residency so i lured it

out very quickly to build a sign silence

musician and my wife as much can you

than me waited she

had a big smile on her face she just

finished a master’s of science at the

house of university she smiled and she

said scientist I felt like it was a

little bit like a doctor my wife

forevermore won the battle of romantic

career choice I could have at the time

said poet but forevermore I’m a

physician scientist I have another

anecdote for you gets a little bit more

than me to talk today consider rene

descartes a modern-day Rene Dakar

he’s neurophysiologist and he’s in the

burn unit the Health Sciences here in

London Renee isn’t her physiologist but

for some reason yes the 20% burned

surface area burns on his body he’s on

the burn unit knows science he knows how

nerve a connects Louis how a stimulus

effects with no susceptor in the

periphery he knows how that signal goes

up to his brain he knows the

neurotransmitters involved in the

transmission of that signal

he knows the areas of the brain that are

responsible for the reception

interpretation and the cognizance

experience of it but Renee knows

something else

Renee also knows he has a problem with

me because a few years ago

Renee lost his job global financial

crisis it was a private researching a

private company ended up in a rooming

house here in London and he turned to

speak taxed alcohol for solace he had a

cigarettes he has cigarette in his mouth

one night he passed out burned him in

the bed and because the building codes

weren’t enforced in this burning house

sprinklers didn’t go on maybe there were

no sprinklers and so he has the burnin

he’s on the burn unit and neuron a

leading to neuron B does not help him in

his bed he has a problem

not a problem at all so why am I telling

you these anecdotes

I’m telling these anecdotes to present

to you that there’s a different way of

knowing there’s a different way to

produce and disseminate knowledge

perhaps you’ve heard of the discipline

of narrative medicine it’s something

that was largely created by Rita Charan

who’s a PhD in Henry James and also an

internist at Columbia University but

it’s not my intention to even define

narrative medicine today in order to

pretend that I know Rita personally it’s

simply to enact their the medicine in

the form of my presentation because I

truly do feel that there is a problem

with the way we treat these patients

with pain and the problem is done to

patients based on the scientific the

purely scientific view that’s applied to

them so let me define my terms what do I

mean when I say pain well there’s a

local Western connection I believe this

there was a fella by the name of Harold

murski who’s a psychiatrist here in

London and he defined paint for our age

in 1979 he created the definition for

the fledgling International Association

for the study he wrote it and the short

version is pain is a negative sensory

and emotional experience experience to

inter experience in terms of the damage

that work damage is key I don’t disagree

that pain is a negative sensation but

the connector to damage and negative

really becomes normative and what I’m

going to say they’re linked together and

they’re inextricable in the medical view

that is the codified definition that we

have so if that’s pain I need to tell

you that what I’ve taught me about today

is also chronic pain and the National

Institute of Health defines Roenick pain

as pain which lasts longer than three

months there’s more finicky definitions

but that’s going to be the definition

that’s going to suffice for today now I

want to tell you the states of pain in

Canada because there are significant

it’s estimated that 20 percent of

Canadians will experience chronic pain

in their lifetime a number that’s only

gonna go up as we age hopefully we will

of course surprising rates of obesity

and other things are gonna maybe pull

down a recent insult read study was done

69 percent of physicians who have a

significant family physicians who have a

significant amount the palliative care

practice and also convenient practice

estimate that chronic pain is under

treated the cost the Canadian economy

estimated a few years ago by the

Canadian teen society is fifty to sixty

billion dollars a year and maybe a

shocking piece of information it was

shown the shocking to me I was talking

to dr. Jim Ducharme who’s a pain

specialist at the University a

world-renowned expert and he pointed me

to a study done in the archives of

internal medicine in 2015 no that was a

Cochrane review and I’m also not going

to go into the nuances of that but a

Cochrane review is basically a

compilation of all the previous research

that has been done that meets a certain

standard on a particular topic the

upshot of it is there they concluded in

2015 this year there is no evidence to

support the use of opiates in chronic

pain over the over the month of the year

I found that shocking the physical that

is commonly done all goods are used to

prescribe for patients with chronic pain

they did of course find a dose-dependent

so what are what am i saying today am i

saying that doctors are immense I am

actually and am I am I saying this oh

there’s a problem with chronic pain in

Canada both of those things both of

those things are are really obvious let

me tell you what I’m saying based on Who

I am

I’m not a specialist in crime

I’m a family doctor I don’t see chronic

pain patients every day every minute of

every day and I’m also not an expert in

the demographics of what an is a scholar

a budding scholar in English literature

who reach shelves of Canadian literature

to find alternate representations of

pain and I’ll tell you what I’ve

concluded as the possible nature of the

problem that we all share and the nature

of that is that we all use destructive

metaphors to describe pain now before I

get too deep into that I’ll just say it

could be true that we lack the perfect

drive to treat pain and that’s our

that’s our plight as people it could be

that we lack the perfect intervention as

people we think but I would suggest to

you that it’s the path suggested by our

very same destructive metaphors that

makes us the drug so what do I mean by

destructive marketers it’s simple you’ve

all been in this clinic let’s pretend

it’s my clinic but you’ve all been in

this particular clinic I’m sure for

those who in the audience who are

suffering from chronic pain or those in

the audience who are suffering from

acute injuries go into the doctor you

say it hurts some doctor listens

hopefully and he says to you and I would

say to you describe your pain to me and

what words would you use where it’s like

crushing burning stabbing or it think

those are the only words there are

others like it those are the only words

used that we have as people to describe

the pain experience they are metaphors

so this is not a new thing this is

something that’s been known for a long

time so I’m not pointing to anything

that I myself included I have concluded

it but it’s not my original conclusion

it’s been known since the 1940s and

Elaine Scarry popularized it in 1985

with her book of the body in pain it’s a

beautiful book and since Gary’s book

there have been and in response more

positive way is to look at me

so the humanities in particular has

looked at other ways to raining outside

of the hegemonic negative frame we have

now things that I’ll just mention that I

won’t explain but there are ways there’s

eleven Athenian philosophy there’s

subjectivity but why should we care

about these negative numbers what we

should care because we’re all locked

into them if we only have a negative way

to talk about them and how can our

outcomes improve I would suggest to you

that that is the fundamental problem

that we have I doubt that very many

people in the audience listen to this

talk when you talk to your friend about

your pain you say it hurts

it feels like it’s stab not thinking in

terms of it so I have an alternative way

alternative way that I personally frame

me what do I mean by narrative I mean

that the person in pain has has a sink

but it should always be interpreted in

the context of their lives already

I’ve lived with myself out of looking at

things burning stabbing ripping I’ve

looked at affect looking at pain in

is that they are meaning for them that

they have if you have P that fact is

that you have P can have several effects

of life that suggests that it can have

several meanings that that pain has

effects on your life means that I can

have effects on the lives of others so

so let’s I just want to draw our

attention today to the fact that we’re

all in this being predicament

together we’re all in the same boat

we’re all locked into this cultural

model which suggests that would be

expressed negative no if I wanted to be

scientific for a moment for those who

are blind in the audience to speak this

language I could talk without mirror

neurons and wave my hands but what I’d

rather do is go along a parallel track

I’d like to suggest that imagine if you

will a person in pain how do you know

that there is an interesting well you

can tell by their body language you can

tell by their facial expressions you can

tell by the tone of voice

by recognizing these things and then

enter it into their experience you can

impact eclis respond to the person I

don’t mean to suggest to anyone that

pain I don’t mean to suggest that pain

is a good thing all I’m here to suggest

today is that poenas are not necessarily

negative by looking on it that way we’ve

freed ourselves I think a little bit

there has been research done we just

looked at functional enough fMRI

responses functional MRI responses to

people

we’re shown pictures of people we know

in the brain where this works

we’ve done electro biographic Studies on

people who have we have science for them

describe their pain but also to put it

into a context of partly so if you

followed me this far

goodbye what I’m saying

then we’ve left the clinical apocalyptic

mechanistic help that is in some

respects some elements of the modern

medicine we’ve left a huge amount of

infusion of money to pharmacology

looking for the way main pathway where

it’s looking for a perfect magic bullet

again weapon we left that left the hell

we’ve got into the zone let’s say of

recovery positive zone is not

necessarily negative but I still would

suggest despite Levin asking philosophy

despite intersubjectivity despite my

essay at narrative I still suggest we

have a fundamental problem that’s our

problem that’s how we talk to them and

we need to fix that and so by the power

invested in me by FedEx and poetry I

command all the poets who are listening

to me here to work on this problem with

metalwork to try and invent more

and I’ll conclude by saying that the

problem that we have with pain is not

pharmacological or based on intervention

its definitional the problem is of

course and I hope you can all work together to

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