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Human & Inhumane | Nigmendra Narain | TEDxWesternU


so in that regard I did the standard

thing you look at Google right human

condition 38 million results awesome

right

important issue well then I looked up

the word humane and there were a lot

more right 45 million results almost but

as we all know you don’t really want to

go by that because nine out of five

times statistics can be manipulated to

say what you think they should say and

clearly they need context right so we

want to go beyond that first of all to

say okay well for time of things being

humane or inhumane what are we trying to

get at so when I sort of look through

that I sort of suggested that well

that’s not really the impetus for me I’m

not just looking at the word I’m really

trying to get a sense of what is it but

people are talking about when they say

and I think we’ve all had this when

you’ve when you’ve been on Twitter and

clearly I’m assuming some of the

presentations earlier to this they asked

you about you know people are trolling

and they have a position on stuff and

it’s often quite visceral people get

very angry about what they post against

and the word that Kate kept coming up in

my view was this notion of inhumane now

I wanted to take a step back here and

I’ve asked well okay how does how does

this sort of relate to what you would do

in political science why’d you get into

political science and I step back from

that and said okay well you know

political science for me is not about

being a politician some of you who are

in Pali so I have been asked that are

you planning to be a politician one day

not so much I didn’t think that was the

way I was gonna go for it for me I like

political science and when I thought

politics is something that needs to be

connected to when I look at the way that

the human condition is changing visa vie

technology is to really look at how I

enjoy debate how I enjoy engaging people

on those issues and how I enjoy dialogue

and discussion but a lot more of that I

do now with my friends online I do it

through watching TED videos and making

comments about them or saying hey did

you get a chance to see this and when

you do can we have a chat about it so

the way we do politics is changing our

reference points for that is changing

further to that we also want to suggest

some measure of engaging with the issues

of the day when I’m going to class and

something has happened which has

happened where somebody goes oh my god

did you hear this happen whether I like

it or not that’s what people are engaged

with and if I have the opportunity to

mention it as a part of class that’s

helpful I can go ahead and say okay this

is what

we’re talking about and it relates to

what we’re doing today now sometimes

it’s relatable sometimes it is not

sometimes it’s very difficult to make

our points and to connect with somebody

unless we have some sense of what their

trauma and other times it doesn’t make

any sense like just because somebody

cited a cat video is awesome I can’t

really turn that into why the

institutional notion of prime

prerogative in Parliament and the Prime

Minister’s power are all related to cat

videos right it’s also gonna be much

more trickier now that our Prime

Minister isn’t a pro cat person in the

way Stephen Harper was remember cuddling

the cats and stuff so clearly there’s

gonna be an attempt to sort of

disconnect in some ways but clearly

there’s gonna be a difficulty in trying

to say okay this is all connected sort

of pushing the boundaries a little too

much to get at something that may not

really be helpful further to that what I

also wanted to do is look at the

question of you know what are people

actually talking about when we think

about that nowadays it’s usually about

the internet usually about what’s gone

viral

now viral doesn’t mean everybody now I

always try to point this out in class a

hundred thousand people have viewed a

video right what’s the number for

YouTube I think it’s ten thousand then

you get like a buck or something like

that but it still matters it a bunch of

people thought this was important and

then their language and what they want

to talk about and how they speak to it

is what they talk about visa vie the

internet so our language is then getting

intermediated with what goes on on the

internet classic example of that we

Google stuff right most of us remember

when we just used to search for stuff

right but who searches for anything any

days anymore nobody yeah Google stuff

right if you’re searching for something

not quite sure what searching is did you

lose your keys maybe we can check Google

for that actually I do have an app on

Google that searches for my keys right

awesomeness but clearly the Internet is

mediating in that regard so this brought

me to the question of the bad side or

the bad things of the human condition

right as we can see David Beckham here

crying about winning a game that’s the

upside of the human condition but at the

same time it speaks to a number of

things that are important the downside

is things like there are horrible people

in the world right on the internet every

day people get put on the internets and

you know this person’s horrible because

they’re doing this or that we have all

the unconscionable acts the dark side of

the internet we don’t want to engage

with we don’t wanna get a sense of

what’s going on but further to that we

have uncaring attitudes in a disregard

for others how can somebody think this

way why would somebody

that way well how could somebody not be

worried about this or that that’s

happening over there all of these things

are there but the problem is that we

have to deal with this troubling side of

humanity now in that regard the way we

figure out what’s troubling however is

with clicks is with whether or not you

like something is whether or not you

shared something so if a picture goes

viral that is clearly the thing to worry

about and yet there are people like oh I

can’t believe everybody’s sharing

clicking and liking on this why are you

doing that this is clearly more

important people get wildly upset when

they find that stuff that they think is

important it’s not important to a lot of

other people and in the grand scheme of

things philosophical you might say yeah

that should have been more important we

should have paid attention to that so

what are some of these sorts of things

well we had the situation and call him

what a while ago where a dog was run

over three times because it was assumed

to be a rabid coyote

and we were very upset about that right

lots of the trooper a ssin towards the

police forces lots of anger towards and

some of it directed at the owner why did

you let this happen etc but this caught

the attention and it went viral then we

had the situation of the Markham bear

getting shot people in the neighborhood

taking pictures of the police saying are

you happy are you happy and then all

sorts of you know finger-pointing about

why did you do this why did you do that

don’t people care about Public Safety

other people coming out and arguing well

I think human safety is more important

than animals safe all of these sorts of

things started to emerge off of that one

incident further to that we had the

dogfighting rings that were recently

busted in Chicago and in Chatham around

here a little a few weeks ago those were

again another situation where people are

very concerned about what’s happening

and also discussions around what should

be the appropriate course of action

people are looking what are the actual

laws around this so all of those sorts

of things

then we had the question of the movement

in the United States black lives matter

and others this is the picture of Eric

garner was taken down put in a chokehold

that died as a consequence of that and

again raising lots of different forms of

questions that people want an answer in

different ways of approaching those same

questions we had the Kunduz Hospital

bombing the one that was initially all

was a military site now it was the place

where the Taliban was holed up sort of

no that wasn’t the case it was a

steak but now we’re finding out that you

know individuals that were fleeing the

hospital were gunned down or attacked or

bombed on their way out of the hospital

trying to get out of there people are

very upset about that and then we have

the Syrian refugee crisis as well lots

of anger about what’s going on there

lots of concern the famous image of the

soldier picking up the young boy and the

impact of that and the map itself shows

you the great distance that is being

covered by this refugee crisis it’s in

Syria but it is across a very large

territory and that’s just the one on the

map we’re not even talking about the

Diaspora of Syrians that are now all

around the world fleeing this crisis now

when we look at all these things you

could say well obviously as a political

scientist you must have the answer

that’s why we pay you the big bucks

right that’s not the point

the point is not about the answers it’s

about the questions that people were

raising and the questions that I thought

were emerging from this was this idea of

people claiming it’s not humane right

and then there’s my good friend and yes

I may be a believer in one level or

another but I believe he’s asking the

right question what do you mean right

those people would say it’s not humane

and then in this not humane we’re

throwing in so many things and just like

the song and some of there’s so many

things to answer but it is the question

of what do you mean when you say not

humane when different people are

describing different things and saying

this was inhumane the way it was being

handled this is inhumane that this was

happening it’s inhumane that this is

going on so when I looked at that I went

to the Deaf dictionary by that I mean

dictionary calm I looked up the

definition right again who searches for

stuff you google it right search it in

any dictionary the term humane will

refer to questions of compassion

questions of pity caring right further

to that we would also suggest that it

has relationships to questions of

empathy or suffering and distress we can

turn to Jeremy Bentham Peter Singer lots

of other authors talk about animals lots

of people writing about the situation of

refugees international law you can read

all those folks as well and further to

that we can also look at it in terms of

reducing harm and inflicting less pain

right

that is something that we also deal with

as well lots of veterinarians doctors

dealing with assisted suicide etc all of

those sorts of matters also lead us to

that same question but from another

instance even if that is the dictionary

definition there are still ways that I

think that we can look at the human

condition and the humane condition to

say there’s a couple of different things

that people are getting at I think the

first of those things would be that they

are talking about an end an end that

they perceive to be a sort of horrible

outcome and this outcome that will be

horrible at one level they foresee as

being something that is not avoidable it

is going to be bad whatever the outcome

to this is right but there has to be an

outcome that has to be somewhat more

humane than what we currently have so if

we take a look at this year in refugee

crisis and the refugee camps in refugee

camps are places where there are people

of tremendous resilience people of

tremendous capability people eke out

lives in those for decades or people

that develop skills they learn education

they learn all sorts of or all sorts of

different coping mechanisms they figure

out a way to grow from that in a way

that is unimaginable for many of us

sitting here but for them those

experiences are very lived very real and

very fruitful in some ways yet at the

same time I don’t want to suggest a

refugee camps are a way to go we do

realize that refugee camps have a

tremendous amount of problems there is

violence in them tremendous amounts of

violence right there’s significant

issues of uncertainty am i leaving am I

going is there an opportunity for me to

have an education to do this right a lot

of people suffer under a lot of stress

simply because of the uncertainty of

their existence further to that there is

oftentimes xenophobia this is happening

right now for some of the refugees that

are crossing to parts of Europe they are

now facing the brunt of nationalist and

other movements that are coming at them

and saying get out we don’t want you

here go away then we can also see

similar things when we go to the area of

Nan human species right the end for many

animals in different shelters is going

to be certain death they believe the

city of Los Angeles and a number of

others you can look up statistics but

there’s into the tens of thousands right

we saw

this were the course of the Olympics etc

in different places animal rights groups

working non-stop

over time as animals were cleared out of

different neighborhoods etc but the

reality is that we know that that is

coming can we do that in some meaningful

way that goes against the idea of just

sort of willful neglect and murder can

we do it in a humane way to treat

non-human species and I think further to

that it raises the question of are there

times which was raised in the earlier

presentation as well that we are sparing

someone something or some situation a

far worse outcome and that is sort of

what people I think are getting at the

question of things that are sort of

humane or inhumane and that’s at the end

we know the end is coming at some level

and what sort of end what sort of

landing if you will we’re gonna have to

some very affordable situations of the

human condition then there’s the middle

part now the middle is about not making

things worse right sorry these come up

all at once but basically the idea that

we should not try to inflict further

injury whatever we’re doing don’t make

it worse for people if people are going

through stuff don’t pile on to that

right I just finished an exam a little

while ago right when it’s over I want to

make sure that people are okay even

within to say come on you know you can

do it smiles let’s go let’s keep going

all right

why would I just be mean of them like

guy hurry up come on I got to go I got

to talk to do I gotta eat lunch before

that let’s move it I don’t want to do

that I want people to feel comfortable I

understand it’s a tough situation so any

situation where we can avoid inflicting

further pain like not putting mr. Garner

into a chokehold arresting him in some

more reasonable manner that wouldn’t

have put his life in jeopardy further to

that unacceptable justifications clearly

are becoming ease efficiency and even

necessity even when we say it was a

necessity that we do this people no I

don’t think so I still think was

inhumane the way that was handled and we

should have tried something else and

we’re seeing a lot of attempts to

rewrite and rethink systems that people

in authority use to deal with all sorts

of problem we at the University have

seen all sorts of changes in the way we

deal with questions of mental challenges

personal relationships and so forth like

that again

every institution is grappling with this

to figure out ways to do things and

if occations that simply suggests ease

efficiency and necessity don’t seem to

cut the mustard in that regard and

people are putting that as a challenge

that we must face so just to give you an

example of this in the case of the

Syrian refugee crisis the Croatians even

though they weren’t doing anything to

really help with the refugee crisis

we’re Louden for their Pacifica specific

role in choosing to provide buses and

provide transit from Croatia to wherever

else we’re planning to go Austria

Hungary Germany you wanted to go but

they weren’t inflicting any further

suffering upon those people you could

come through have some water or get your

family together get organized maybe wait

for so-and-so to show up etc but then

you can be on your merry way and they

were being loud it for that but didn’t

solve the problem they didn’t help out

with trying to deal with the mess they

aren’t saying well you can stay here and

yeah we’ll give you a house or something

like that we’ll let you build your life

no we just suggest that’s better

but the other side to this is that the

beginning in a sense is increasingly

something that if we sit down and say

what would happen what causes the Syrian

refugee crisis what leads to a situation

where we have individuals engaged in

horrible acts to non-human species if we

ask ourselves what happened Mike okay I

want to find that out I mean I’m a

researcher as are many of you and others

but even if you’re not people just want

to punch into the internet and see

what’s going on but let’s say that you

find out what happens increasingly the

question is well I can’t stop to help so

that’s not in the car I cannot stop

Syria and Isis alone even if I donate

and stuff like that governments need to

do stuff about it people need to do

stuff about it so the beginning is sort

of not so useful in that regard further

to that we could also suggest that’s

almost non contextual what people think

to be inhumane things on the internet

etc do we really know the context

there’s all sorts of videos that are on

the internet that are entirely bogus

right you can go to what is it

snopes.com you can go to all sorts of

websites and the debunk oh this picture

is wrong that’s from 1995 they’re

showing it as being 2005

things like that but it’s almost the

context doesn’t matter right and in fact

at some points it’s not even relevant

regardless if we think of all the things

that have happened in terms of

relationships between in civilians and

different forms of Authority military

please all the rest of it does the

context matter for the authorities it

does for the individuals it does but

when it goes on the internet we sort of

lose it right as Eric Schmidt famously

has pointed out you know

content is king the content is its crown

problem is are a lot more Kings and a

lot fewer crowns in that regard so what

we end up with is a situation where

individual talk is about I saw something

in how inhumane and with what they’re

referring to in my view when the

Internet age is one they see a recording

of something a technology that records

it in the interpretative and that

interpretation then over time inevitably

becomes part of social media so it gets

distr dispersed and it gets really will

replicate it it gets to be sent all over

to a number of places and if never ibly

it becomes entrenched in means right I

have a couple of memes about me I guess

on the internet you probably all do as

well some of them you probably don’t

ever even know about right I’m pretty

sure when you go to meme generator the

people that are there unless it’s Keanu

Reeves didn’t probably give their

permission to be a part of those needs

but those memes are entrenched and the

people and people are replicating them

left right and center so technology

becomes the truth but I would suggest

hear the word from Stephen Colbert

famously truthiness is the way to go

right it has that sense and we know it

to be true because it’s in our gut we

have that says it’s inhumane because we

feel it right and not so much logically

understand it but we feel it so if we

see some of this sort of collateral what

I call atom image in the sense the means

that caused the damage this young lady

was the one trying to help out Eric

garner trying to figure out what

happened EMF she was not even involved

in the incident but this is a meme with

her face on there right what’s she

really gonna do about that but this is a

meme that’s on the Internet it’s posted

on people’s sites right after the whole

Eric garner thing happened and so now

her face is attached to that if she is

out there her family’s out there then we

had the one about the bear right and

that one of course crossed the number of

lines released in relation to other

civil rights issues that are going on in

our society which led to a lot of people

arguing about what was the point of

making memes like that what is the point

of crossing between a debate about black

bears and other people and so forth like

that but the reality is is that the

memes then entrench some of our

understandings of

is inhumane in the age of the internet

so what would be the humane thing right

let’s pose it in terms of Rob for I used

to make tons of jokes about Rob Ford

when he was mayor I would point out all

the foibles there were all of the

different quirks we could make I’m gonna

talk about the impact of that in Toronto

politics being a mayor when he ended up

on Jimmy Kimmel but I don’t anymore

right this is a man whose family is in

crisis this is a man who is going

through cancer even when he was on the

campaign trail lasted a while a lot of

toning down about what people had to say

about Rob Ford and probably rightly so

right this is a guy who’s facing a

significant amount of problems at this

juncture health-wise and otherwise even

if we find out more stuff that finds

that gets us to think okay what’s up

with this fellow doesn’t mean that maybe

this is the right time to do and so

technology can have an impact then on

how we modulate our understanding of

what is inhumane but it also clearly

sets the tone for it right clearly you

would not want to be the person that did

those nasty things about Rob Ford while

he’s in the second state while he’s in

the hospital but clearly if you had done

some of those things earlier when he was

doing fine as the mayor and he’s in the

position of authority but now he’s a

public he’s no longer a public person he

is out of the public eye so in this

regard

what would he Humane politics look like

well first of all we would want to

suggest that we have to start thinking

about conceptions of things like the

humane suffering and all the other stuff

I talked about and even what it is to be

inhumane with some of the popular

understandings because there are a lot

more people even our sense of concepts

is democratizing further to that we have

to have a wider set of skills and

knowledge if we are in positions of

authority because when we face questions

about did we do the right thing or did

we do something that was inhumane etc

then those questions are going to come

up and those questions are going to come

up partly because of the way the

Internet has had an impact on what we do

further to that I would suggest at one

level it’s a moving target as to what is

inhumane on one instance there is a case

of the young lady who did a little

Twitter post about people behind her

doings things and then she posted that

consequence of which three people lost

her job then people went after the young

lady for what she had posted

and said you know this was inhumane why

did you make them lose their jobs etc

etc so it was a moving target she

thought she was doing the right thing

and instead it turned out it was final

point I would raise is the problem is

clearly relational and it’s the

distinction between the agent and not

the subject or the object but the agent

and the viewer there are many anonymous

vocal voices that then as viewers tell

you what you are doing and as a

consequence of which you have to

obviously modulate what you’re doing and

that will then in the sense determine

whether or not you’ve done something

that’s amido main or not so that leads

to the final words of wisdom that I will

leave for you and I am you’re gonna use

a little bit of words of wisdom that I

actually coined and I put this in the

internet to make sure that nobody else

stole my work right because that’s

really what we do so I googled it turns

out it wasn’t but this is something I’ve

been saying for a little over a decade

before Facebook was even invented and

things were already on the rise don’t do

anything in real life you wouldn’t you

would not do on the Internet

because at the end of the day that’s

really where it’s coming around that the

human condition is actually discussed

talked about an assess so with that I

thank you in multiple languages unlike

the previous presenter I’m not capable

of saying so but I do wish you all the

best – thank you very much the TED talk [Applause]

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