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Kids are us: child abuse and DID | Roswell Ecker | TEDxIthacaCollege


highly-decorated actor who’s outed as a

pedophile adding his name to the

ever-growing list of sexual predators in

Hollywood and as a sort of smokescreen

to cover up the allegations against him

he comes out as gay and people see right

through it he rightfully faces a massive

amount of backlash but it’s the wrong

kind of backlash because instead of the

conversation being Kevin Spacey’s a

pedophile and thought he could trick us

and that’s absolutely an issue that

should be talked about the stereotype

that gay men are pedophiles but it’s the

wrong time for that particular

conversation because it gave Kevin

Spacey exactly what he wanted it allowed

him to spin that scandal into being

about something other than what it was

which was childhood sexual assault which

I’m going to refer to as CSA from here

on out

and this isn’t honestly all that

uncommon on the whole people care about

CSI survivors a lot less than they’d

like to think they do like you asked any

given person like Oh what are your

thoughts on pedophilia they’re going to

tell you that it’s awful and evil and

vile but once you start criticizing the

sexualization of children and teenagers

in the media or school dress codes or

the role that pedophilia plays in comedy

a lot of those same people are a lot

less vocal for example daddy jokes a lot

of people have heard of the daddy jokes

and it’s it’s a sexualized term that you

use to describe yourself for your hot

friend and it’s become super common

especially with Millennials and because

it’s become so common the context and

origin of the word has largely been

forgotten but the word comes from a kink

a sexual roleplay called daddy damn

little girl in which one partner takes

on the role of a parental figure and the

other of a child and so for si si

survivors like hearing this kind of

language thrown around very casually is

obviously very triggering and upsetting

I I am a survivor I was molested by an

adult man when I was six years old and

he was not a father figure to me but

even so

hearing the daddy jokes thrown around

will set me off for at minimum the

entire rest of that day because it’s a

reminder of how pervasive this stuff is

and how little empathy people really

have for are the experiences of

survivors when were children much less

when were older and supposed to have

outgrown the drama and for other

survivors like my best friend Vegas who

was raped by his stepfather for years

like that holds an even more sinister

connotation and you know Vegas and I are

both very vocal about this stuff like in

person and on social media and it’s one

thing when people just don’t know

because you can explain to them the

context and and what it really means and

they have their moment with like oh my

god I had no idea and then they can

change their behavior but what’s much

more common is you have people who no

matter if you talk to them one-on-one no

matter how many times they hear you talk

about this stuff it’s inconvenient for

them to reevaluate their behavior or

they don’t want to accept that it’s

actually harmful so they just don’t stop

and because of that and the stuff you

just hear day-to-day it’s very hard to

go more than like a day or two without

being reminded of your status as a

survivor and being reminded of how

isolating that is I think something a

lot of people don’t realize is how much

being assaulted in childhood impacts the

entire rest of your life it’s not well

you were little and so you know kids

don’t have real feelings and once you’re

older you’re fine because when you are

raped as a child your brain is dealing

with some heavy adult stuff before it’s

a fully developed adult brain and when

you’re in this very specific window of

six to nine years old your brains in a

very sensitive stage of cognitive and

emotional development and as a means of

coping I’m in in the context of this

talk I’m going to be talking

specifically in regards to pedophilia

but any kinds of abuse experienced in

that six to nine year window as a means

of processing what’s happening your

brain can create a new identity a lot of

people are familiar with multiple

personalities disorder which is the

outdated term for what’s known today as

dissociative eye

any disorder or D ID and I think one of

the biggest misconceptions about D ID is

tied up in the word personality because

people hear that and it’s easy to

conceptualize it as like putting on a

mask or playing a character which makes

it very easy to discount the ideas like

just a delusion or well sure we believe

he believes it but we all know he’s

crazy because the thing is your brain is

really really good at what it does so it

goes all the way and when it creates

someone new and and that person is not

like a two-dimensional character it’s a

real fully developed person just as real

as the kid who was there first so the

term we don’t use personality the term

we use is alter and because most people

with GID have more than just one author

the term for all alters collectively is

a system so once you have the system

that’s created any other traumas that

occur throughout the lifetime have the

potential to create new halters so the

person who this body originally

belonging to her name is Maddy and she

was like I said molested when we were

six and it’s Maddy and then Percy and

math were the first two altars that

showed up as a result of that initial

trauma and then when we were in high

school

Maddy was in an abusive relationship for

a few years and I Ross hey was created

during that time to help her cope and a

few years after that once we were able

to finally get away from the abusive

girlfriend for good Maddy was

essentially like I’m very small and my

life has been garbage and I don’t want

to be here anymore it’s your turn so she

sort of went into hibernation and left

left me to take to run things

Fox stood up not too long after that and

after him

Sawyer Bucky and Steve so there’s eight

of us in our system and I think I think

people have it’s easier to understand

the difference between authors by like

interacting with them rather than just

hearing about them so we’re actually

going to have Fox take over for a little

bit please excuse the boys crack Oh

ifox take over for a little bit Hey

just as a disclaimer we don’t this isn’t

like a party trick you don’t usually

just turn it on and off we can but we

don’t we have sorry we have this we’ve

rehearsed this but anyway like Ross said

my name is Fox the term for what I’m

doing right now talking interacting with

the world controlling our body is called

fronting we’ve worked really hard with

in our system to have strong internal

communication which allows us to have

pretty good control over who is fronting

when we’ve known other systems with

significantly poorer communication who

have little to no control over who pops

in and out so I wanted to talk about one

of the the biggest misconceptions second

biggest I guess misconceptions about D

ID is one that you see perpetuated in

the media a lot you haven’t movies like

split or like that one episode of any

given crime procedural drama where it’s

this person has di D and one of their

alters is a serial killer can they be

stopped and the thing about that aside

from the fact that it’s wildly untrue is

that the trope plays off of existing

stereotypes about di D which paint it as

one of the quote-unquote scarier mental

illnesses as opposed to say anxiety and

depression because for most people it’s

hard to imagine you know sharing your

body and head with other people but the

thing is the best way I can articulate

di D is it’s like living with roommates

only they’re inside your head right if

you uh if you don’t can’t communicate

you’re gonna have problems some of you

are significantly worse at remembering

to do the dishes and you inhabit the

same physical space so another question

we get whenever we talk about our

communication is how logistically that

works think about any form of media

you’ve interacted with in which someone

can read minds and they hear other

people’s thoughts inside their own head

but all the

voices sound different because they’re

all coming from different people again

because authors were our own distinct

people we all have our own distinct

voices so it’s literally just internal

communication sharing thoughts and

feelings and the thing the because like

I say this is media right it’s media it

tends to be very stigmatizing when

talking about mental health in general

but especially the rarer disorders like

di D so because most people haven’t

interacted with anyone with D ID most of

the information they have about it is

likely to come from stigmatizing media

which makes it harder for people who

have D ID to be visible about our

experiences and a lot of the the stigma

that exists also extends to the field of

psychology you have a lot of therapists

who don’t believe di D exists at all

a lot of intro to psych classes will

describe it as this is a term that

exists most of us don’t believe in it

watch the movie Sybil and move on and

the movie Sybil is a wildly inaccurate

depiction of di D and it’s since been

proven that the woman it describes Sybil

did not actually have di D so you can

imagine how that goes but our

psychiatrist told us about a year ago

that most therapists will not knowingly

take on a client who already has a di D

diagnosis and we did find this in our

personal experience to be the case

because di D is also accompanied by

almost always anxiety depression PTSD

but can also be accompanied by disorders

personality disorders eating disorders

psychosis and schizophrenia

so most like most psychologists a lot of

therapists will just not want to deal

with with everything you come with so

our psychiatrist told us that we should

pretend we didn’t have a diagnosis

wait for a therapist to get to give us

their own diagnosis and take it from

there which is a lot of work just to

find out if a therapist will work with

you at all

so we after about six months and several

traumatic therapy experiences we did

find the therapist

we have now who is a blessing and while

we’re on the topic of therapy so there’s

two there’s really a good kind of

therapy for di D and a bad kind and it

can be easy to assume that the way to

treat di D is is to get rid of the

system which is not the case thing about

di D is the problem with it is not the

presence of the system it’s the trauma

that caused it so you want to treat di D

for PTSD but you’ve got the bad kind of

therapy which insists on the idea of

integration which is mashing all the

altars back up into one person and for a

very very small number of people with di

D this is a desirable solution but for

most of us who knowingly wants to not a

not exist tomorrow so the good kind of

therapy leaves that decision up to the

person with di D in their system our

current therapist the first session we

had with her she asked us if we were

interested in integration we said no and

she has not brought it up since well she

has told us is that in systems like ours

where communication is sound that di D

is one of the healthiest coping

mechanisms the brain has for dealing

with trauma so we’re all we’re all very

close in our system we look out for each

other

if Ross is having a tough time someone

else will step in so they don’t have to

front until they’re more stable and we

in our personal experience di D has been

a very good thing that came out of

something horrible Ross again um so just

sort of in closing here I just wanted to

emphasize again like si si and di D are

both deeply misunderstood and super

super stigmatized and that leads to

silencing stigma is always used as a

tool of suppression which makes it hard

for people to talk about their

experiences for people to empathize with

experiences that they can’t personally

understand and it allows people like

Kevin Spacey to get away with it so like

empathy is the biggest thing we can

stress here today just please care about

children listen to children when they

talk about experiences listen to any

survivors when they

aren’t able to talk about their

experiences and look out for each other

thank you [Applause]

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