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How leaders change brains and win hearts | Fiona Kerr | TEDxAdelaide


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but how many of you show plans or be the

first to do in these color talks has had

a wonderful leader one who inspired you

who let you be really good at what

you’re doing on great lots of hands are

yes and you can see you’ve kind of kept

it with you those leaders actually

changed our brains at both do it are

really interesting study last year it’s

a really great scan of executives and

what they did was they top people with

many years of experience and they talked

to them about their leaders and good

leaders created this pattern in people’s

heads now this is the mirror neuron

system so it’s about effect it’s about

connecting with people and if it’s

orange that means it’s positive effect

so they had really good memories about

getting on well with people about

sharing information about feeling good

and also about dealing with novelty and

eunice that’s all what happened with the

people that had the bad leaders was

different parts of them running silly

talk

and that’s negative effect and that was

about dropping compassion and narrowing

in the capability to deal with things so

those rates which changed forever

basically by those leaders so I want to

talk to you today about how that happens

the neuroscience I guess

so something that really struck me over

30 years at working in industry all

different kinds of industries with good

leaders some bad leaders leading a bit

myself was that the good leaders had

some things in common so the first thing

many things but the first thing that was

really strong was they all had a very

clear vision about where they were going

what was our reason for being here and

they could share it so everybody could

understand what they were there for and

the second thing was an extremely strong

set of values so if you think about that

we know where we’re going and we feel

safe getting there because we know we’re

going to have each other’s backs and

it’s consistent and it means that within

that boundary people can do wonderful

things they can be very innovative I’m

making strive and that’s because the

third thing that those people did really

well was they were pragmatic optimists

so they made sure that people understood

that they expected the best out of them

and as human beings were interesting if

people have really high hopes for us we

need them so when they build things they

don’t build lots of rules and

regulations that they don’t have to have

all of those measurements because you

don’t need that if someone’s striving

measurements drive us down to the

minimum but if you are able to sir to

strive for what you could possibly hope

for then you’re going to get there

so this fascinated me and always

thinking what is it about them yes there

are all different structures but do they

think differently do they have different

brains and the answer is yes they do so

I’ll be looking at that for a number of

years and there’s some really

interesting work now right through

Europe from Asia and America and

Scandinavia and another trained TV when

I was watching over the years

look at this work and doing some work

myself is that now that we’ve got really

good scanning opacities to have a look

at what’s happening is lots of you don’t

know about the brain but there’s some

things we do know the brains of

inspirational transformational leaders

are different and the way that all of

the different kinds of tests and

research found things is that the

difference is around the social aspect

of the brain so if you take an

inspirational leader and you stand them

are you getting them to talk about their

organization the present and the future

the parts of their brains that light up

are around that social networking system

around engagement around telling stories

and they’re able to do that they’re able

to get people involved and they use a

lot of we we will make it better bigger

happier we’ll have better clients yet

when you scan the people who are much

more hierarchical and controlling the

parts that light up in their brain are

mostly around tasks and it’s I how I

will build an organization that’ll make

more profit that’ll be the competition

so it’s a very different look and

they’re actually uncomfortable even

having that discussion because being

able to win my heart while they’re

talking to me that’s that’s kind of not

where their head is so that was a really

interesting clean but why is that

important it’s because human beings are

hard-wired to connect it’s really

critical to us so if you have the

capacity to do that then you’re going to

lead a lot more powerfully and people

are going to be a lot more keen to go

where you want to go

and even to go other places as well that

can make the organization even better

we’re hardwired in the way that we have

something called interpersonal neural

synchrony synchronization so it’s a big

word for saying that if I’m talking to

you directly

then we synchronize our brains so that

becomes really powerful there’s actually

something happening in your brain that’s

making a difference so if we have an

example I’m one of those charismatic

inspirational leaders and this is my

company right so were a small neat

wonderful company but the markets

changing and we have to do something a

bit different so when I’m coming here

and I’m talking to you if I can inspire

you in my pathetically optimistic way

and we’re talking about where we’re

going to go and the fact that we have to

move but that’s okay because we’re a

really good company and people in this

organization are very capable so we’ll

get there and what we’ll do is do it

together and we’ll figure out what’s in

the way and we’ll get past that then

your parasympathetic nervous system

starts to fire up you have a little bit

of anxiety because it’s new but that

becomes energy and when that

parasympathetic nervous system the vital

immune system kicks in and you start

getting all sorts of chemicals in your

body and some of those chemicals are the

chemicals that your brain uses to make

new neurons so if I was to scan everyone

while we start doing this you’d be

growing a new neural map and the

wonderful thing is would be some

matching lis so

about how powerful that is we need less

rewards less regulations I don’t need to

keep giving you emails of all charts and

videos and all that kind of thing

because you’ve got it in your head so

that’s another part of what the

charismatic leader understands is that

face-to-face direct communication is

critical because when I meet you like

the first time I meet you if we start to

talk then you’ve got spindle neurons

mirror neurons but all sorts of things

going on in your head and we’ve got

dynamic resonance of being in the same

space and once again we start getting

these chemicals and those neurons are to

do with trust they’re the trust neurons

so we actually start building a

relationship immediately

in fact in as little as one twentieth

and 1/6 that our second look really fast

and that’s really critical because

that’s the second thing that these

leaders understand is the power of trust

if I trust you and you trust me that we

trust the process you’re going to be

able to go outside of your comfort zone

you’re going to be able to do things

that you didn’t do before try new things

because you know that someone’s got your

back you’ll be more collaborative and

the other thing that will be really

important is fairness perceived fairness

is quite critical it means that we will

collaborate we will try new things but

in really interesting studies about

perceived unfairness that shuts down

because your brain goes into a different

type of filter it stops looking for

information that’s going to make us

collaborate together and it starts

looking for information that proves to

me that I don’t have to do it with

anyone else so you actually change what

you look for and what you bring into

your brain so Trust is really critical

and the third thing I’ll leave you with

is empathy because a big part of trust

sympathy and a big part of working with

other people is being imperfect that

people think empathise fluffy it’s not

fluffy at all in fact it’s a

physiologically structured process in

your brain and one of the things that’s

really critical for is complex

problem-solving and strategy so the best

strategist I’ve ever worked with are

very empathic so don’t leave that at

home you bring that right to the table

what happens in your brain when you have

a complex problem it’s this information

that’s missing so your brain says okay

I’m not sure where that is so what I’ll

do now is I’ll go and find it my new

filter is going into your brain and

those filters look for information based

on different criteria and the criteria

is around long-lens thinking and

consequences not what about right now so

it actually shares how we look at things

and it engages of course people’s hearts

because you’re being imperfect you’re

caring so it really is right that if you

engage the heart that’s when you can

change the mind because the chemicals

that are in the discernment process can

really organize the patterns in your

brain and actually make you think

differently so what is all this mean it

means that you have a wonderful chemical

cocktail going off in the brains of

people with these kirkwood leaders it

means that their brains with fast stuff

that they take in information more

quickly that they are more nimble in

giving out decisions but it means they

happier at the mass wonderful thing to

think about is so are you so everyone

here if they’re not a little already you

will be because why else would you be in

a TED talk you will be happier because

the wonderful thing about human being

this is reciprocal when your brain

changes my brain changes too so you get

better at the metacognitive skills of

leaving you build better organizations

so people can be flexible you get better

at that social capacity of getting

people to work together and you also get

better at your own emotional perspective

leading some we can all do it we’ve all

got parts and we’ve all got brains so

don’t think that the capacity to engage

and the capacity to like people and to

build that picture and paint the future

is a fluffy thing it’s not the soft

stuff is the hard stuff but it actually

makes the neurophysiological difference

so I’m here to tell you that

scientifically those parts of leading make you a great leader

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