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Gutsy Thinking: Flexibility to Generate Possibility | Sara Gombash Lampe | TEDxOhioStateUniversity


so let’s talk about flexible thinking

flexible thing is a term people often

use to refer to a child’s ability to

think about things in a different way

and it’s essential for true learning

right being able to learn something in

one context and then apply it another

but flexible thinking becomes

increasingly difficult as we gain

expertise as we become experts it’s

really hard to break our focus and

challenge the conventional views in our

work this is true in all disciplines but

you should know that I am a

neuroscientist so by definition my job

is to study the function and dysfunction

of the nervous system and I do all of

this in mouse models of neurological

disease so I’m really coming at this

from a scientific view and in theory

science should be the pinnacle of all

flexible thinking it’s our entire job as

scientists to gather and integrate

information in order to innovate but I

myself have had a long history of

conventional thinking however I’ve also

had the experience of being a flexible

thinker and I found this much much more

rewarding see for the past three years I

studied a childhood neuromuscular

disorder called spinal muscular atrophy

and in that disease a special type of

neuron in the spinal cord called a motor

neuron it dies and the job of the motor

neuron is to send signals out from the

spinal cord to our muscles ultimately

allowing us to move and so pretty

clearly when that neuron dies those

signals are no longer being sent and

that leads to muscle weakness paralysis

and even death in the most severe and

youngest patients and this motor neuron

to muscle circuit it’s very delicate

very complex but understanding it is

really essential for understanding

what’s happening in neuromuscular

diseases

and as scientists we’re really good at

looking at this circuit in parts and

pieces or even really good at taking

snapshots of it over time and dead

tissue but we struggle mainly due to

technical difficulties on being able to

work with this circuit while it’s fully

intact and alive and therein lies my

problem I want to work with this circuit

while it’s intact and alive but this

circuit is very small it can’t be seen

without a microscope and the average

neuroscientist like myself is not going

to be able to dissect it out keep the

whole thing together and then also keep

it fully functioning so I couldn’t alter

the system that I had so I decided I

needed a new system now when you think

of neuroscience you probably think of

the brain and maybe even the spinal cord

but there’s nerves and neurons

throughout your entire body and

conventional thinking in neuroscience

would say if you want to study the brain

use the brain if you want to study

spinal cord wear motor neurons you

should probably use spinal cord motor

neurons but this time I had to go

outside of Convention and this time I

use the enteric nervous system this

beast of a nervous system in your gut to

study what was happening with the spinal

cord so what you need to know about the

enteric nervous system is that it has a

shit-ton of neurons a shit-ton nearly as

many as your spinal cord and there

fortunately for me most of them are

motor neurons which is exactly what I’m

looking for and they’re arranged in

these beautiful structures called

ganglion aided nerve plexuses they look

like a fishing net and then that is cast

out and sandwiched in between two muscle

layers and just like our spinal cord

motor neurons talk to our skeletal

muscles the motor neurons in the gut

talk to the gut muscles and they tell

them to contract and relax and they

ultimately say digestion and so if you

think about it this is perfect for me

I have the two elements I need motor

neurons connected to muscle but it gets

even better because what I haven’t told

you is that the enteric nervous system

can function largely without any input

from your brain that’s right you can

take the gut out of a mouse all the way

from the esophagus to the rectum which

is what you’re looking at here put it in

a dish

watch it wiggle around and keep it alive

for hours and if you think about it this

is perfect for me this is a solution to

my problem I have motor neurons that are

attached to muscle still and it’s alive

and functioning outside the body and

this is a system I can test on and this

is a system I can work in but I gained

something else from this project and it

besides just creating this model to

study the disease getting raw data from

this model and a really cool wiggly gut

video which is really cool and but that

was an appreciation for flexible

thinking so I had a problem and only

flexible thinking really led me to a

solution it allowed me to take something

old

so the enteric nervous system has been

around for our forever and use it in a

new way it allowed me to take what I

considered trash I studied the brain and

spinal cord who cared about the gut and

use it as my new treasure and so you

might be thinking what can flexible

thinking how does it apply to me what

can it do for me inflexible thinking the

very first thing it will do is it will

allow you to generate possibility so if

we think of other examples in science

say the scientists that are taking a

patient’s own skin cells and

transforming them to attack brain tumors

or even those growing organs human

organs outside of the body it helps for

transplant one day I think we can agree

that those people are really pushing

boundaries and generating possibility in

my own work Irie innovated a system we

already had to discover a new way a new

way of looking at neuronal function that

was previously too difficult

generating possibility the other thing

flexible thinking will do is

it will push you out of your comfort

zone and force you to learn a lot and so

again I studied the brain and spinal

cord the gut was an entirely new

territory very much out of my comfort

zone and to study it I really had to

take an interdisciplinary approach sure

I used neuroscience gastroenterology but

I had to throw in a pinch of pathology

in a sprinkle of microbiology to be able

to use a system correctly I was forced

to learn a lot and I was greatly

rewarded for that and you can think

about funny examples in science of

flexible thinking I mean who would have

thought a failed cardiac function drug

in combination with flexible thinking

serendipity and really great marketing

would have given us viagra and to some

that’s a miracle drug but maybe

but maybe your flexible thinking

experience won’t give you the next

miracle drug but what it will do is it

will improve the perspective of your

work no matter what that work is even

outside of science and it will inspire

others and so my ask of you today I

challenge you to really challenge your

conventional views see through them and

be aware remain aware that oftentimes

the very best ideas come from thinking

flexibly thank you [Applause]

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