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Evolutions and Revolutions: A Career in Surgical Robotics | Costa Nikou | TEDxYouth@Shadyside


thanks max so it was 1995 and I was out

of a job

I’ve been working for a grad student at

the robotics Institute at Carnegie

Mellon I was a junior and I worked for

him over the summer it was a great

experience I got to sit in the lab and

just crank out code for computers and

robots and I found out that he was

graduating so I was out of work so I

looked up some local opportunities and

fortunately I was able to find another

opening on campus at the Medic robotics

lab it was also called the mr. Cass lab

of course short for medical robotics and

Peter assisted surgery I didn’t have any

particular interest in surgical robotics

or computer aided medicine I was just

looking for a way to keep coding and

instead of working fast food now mr.

Cass lab was founded by Tony to Joya

Tony was a CMU engineer and then ended

up going to Harvard Medical School and

he became really prominent orthopedic

surgery surgeon here in Pittsburgh he

also co-founded the lab because he was

interested in robotics Frank O’Gara

Mathers was a biomedical engineer that

worked at the lab and I found out after

the interview process that I got the job

and wouldn’t be signed to him and our

task was to develop a computer assisted

surgery simulator and range-of-motion

planner for total hip replacement

surgery now total hip replacement for

those of you who don’t know this is your

hip joint usually the way the hip socket

works is you have a layer of cartilage

over your femoral head and you have a

layer of cartilage in your hip socket

and allows the bones to move very freely

relative to one another

unfortunately due to arthritis this

cartilage layer starts to wear down the

bone starts to rub on bone and it starts

to hurt a lot so what we need to do is

we need to replace the diseased surfaces

with metal and plastic bearings this way

you can move freely and there’s no more

pain it’s pretty key though to get the

components in the right orientation you

can imagine if you put these things in

wrong that the implants can start to

bang on one another it can lead to

implant failure but also potentially to

dislocation so how do we avoid

dislocation well the way it was done

before

the advent of computer assisted surgery

we had the type of planning that was

done on app with acetate templates on

top of an x-ray so basically you do the

2d x-ray it gets a front picture of the

joint and then you can use these guys to

kind of roughly align but mostly for

sizing figure out what you were going to

do going into the surgery and then from

there you made your decisions within the

surgery you use really crude mechanical

guides you can see here on the picture

on the right

this mechanical guide essentially was

used to align the tool to the floor of

the operating room it didn’t take into

account any variability in the patient’s

anatomy and you had to make assumptions

about how the patient was aligned on the

operating table and you can imagine if

you have a 300-pound patient on the

operating table it’s pretty difficult to

know exactly where their pelvis might be

so how do we solve this problem well the

project we worked on was called hip nav

and hip nav included a preoperative

planner and a interoperative guidance

system the preoperative planner was my

work what we did is we develop a

cd-based planner that allow us to build

3d shapes of the pelvis and the femur in

order to accurately place and align the

components and we can make adjustments

according to the native patient’s

anatomy and after we did that alignment

we could fine tune things by basically

doing a rate a preoperative range of

motion simulation we can move the

joining through a range of motion and

see how the positions of the components

and the selection of the various

components would affect the range of

motion for the patient so that’s great

we have a great plan for the surgeon its

patient specific how are we going to

make it happen in the operating room

well the first thing we’re going to do

is we’re going to get rid of the

mechanical guides because you can

imagine they don’t work so well then we

help fit the operating room with an

optical tracking camera kind of like

your Microsoft Kinect but this was 10-15

years earlier than that

we attached sensors like motion capture

sensors to the pelvis we attach it to

the tools as well and then what we can

do is we can plug all of that

information into a computer system that

allows us to do all the math for the

surgeon and then basically tell the

surgeon whether or not that his

insertion tools are aligned incorrectly

or correctly according to where the

pelvis is and this is how it worked in

the operating room this is Shadyside

hospital this is doctor the joy on

right he has his sensors equipped to

both his instruments and to the

patient’s pelvis you’ve got the tracking

camera off of the right or off to the

left it’s monitoring the positions of

the tools and he sees his readout in the

operating room now

the capability to track the pelvis and

instruments in the operating room was

unprecedented and what it allowed us to

do is research not about guiding the cup

but actually in measuring current

practice and so our team won the 1998

hip society award and the ability to

show that indeed the assumptions that

were made before the advent of this type

of technology were all wrong the pelvis

was not fixed on the operating room

table you needed to take into account

patient specific Anatomy and you also

needed to track your tools in the

operating room so you can know you did a

good job

in fact the type of research that Tony

and Franco did along with others in the

field kind of revolutionized the

industry and you can see that Tony and

Branco could literally be considered the

authors of the book on computer assisted

surgery now Tony and Branco didn’t want

to stop there they weren’t satisfied

with just writing some research papers

and doing some good work they wanted to

get this out there and so how do you do

that well you make form a company sokka

surgery was spawned out of Carnegie

Mellon and its mission was to fund and

make the FDA approval for this product

happen the idea was that we were going

to place this in all the operating room

we’re going to revolutionize surgery I

had a couple friends at work Frisco

surged again I cans know first hand how

hard they work and trying to prepare the

applications in fact they worked so hard

they hit so many dead ends they pivoted

and what they ended up doing is instead

of trying to build the application

themselves they decide the partner with

an existing navigation system that was

used for sinus surgery and they try to

outfit the hip NAB software on that

system unfortunately that didn’t work

the companies funding run down my

friends got burnout and they shell the

company for at least a little while

later I was taken to lunch by Branco I

was still working for the lab at the

time and he took me off the lunch at the

church brew works Church brew works is

is a fine establishment here in

Pittsburgh and we

I had a lunch of pierogies with a

colleague of his name Craig Markovitz

Craig Markowitz was a local business guy

he was actually instrumental in

establishing to surgically was need

adviser to Tony and Franco and they sat

me down over pierogies and talked to me

about what they wanted to do what they

wanted to do was to give it one last go

with kosaka they were going to fund the

company they were going to shoot for FDA

approval build it sell it take over the

world so they asked me that they want

wanted me to join them after all the

citement of Costa Rica and see my

friends get burnt out and leave the

company I said of course I’m in we work

with the surge ago we worked on the

kidnap project for a number of years we

tried to build the FDA approval packet

we brought in consultants for regulatory

issues we debugged software we did sales

calls we did everything that we could do

couldn’t get it off the ground

didn’t have any major investors didn’t

make any sales we even went further in

doing alternative research trying to get

research grants we provide shoulder

surgery retried ACL reconstruction

surgery we even tried fetal cardiac

interventions which is essentially

operating on unborn babies hearts that

didn’t work either but it helped keep

the company alive fortunately this is

Anika didn’t work out what we do have is

now a sea change in computer assisted

orthopedics if you search for computer

assisted orthopedic surgery this is what

you see today as opposed to nothing

every major implant manufacturer is

associated with computer guidance

there’s robotic systems that will put in

your hip we helped make change in the

industry now mr. casse the lab that we

were working at was medical robotics and

computers of surgery so let’s talk a

little bit about medical robotics if you

think about medical robotics this is

what you think of this is the da Vinci

robot by Intuitive Surgical it is

impressive technology it is extremely

capable it is incredibly accurate it’s

fun to play with if you ever get a

chance to do a demo of a DaVinci robot I

recommend it highly because it’s really

fun it’s also very

large and very expensive back in the

late 90s there was another robot that

was large and expensive this was called

the Robo dock robot this was also used

for a hip replacement surgery but it was

made for reaming out the femoral part of

the surgery the surgeon would basically

sit back and watched the robot do the

work but the robot literally stood

between the surgeon and the patient so

this begs the question why do all these

robots have to be so big robots don’t

have to be big what if you could fit in

the robot in the palm of your hand this

is Gabrus and gate was actually a grad

student with me at CMU while I was

working for the mr. Cass lab I went to

school part-time in the robotics

department gable is a PhD student and he

was also assigned to medical robotics so

this idea was Gabe’s Gabe said what if I

had a robot that I could hold in my hand

as a surgeon but I could control the

robot by moving it around but the

surgeon would make up for my mistakes

the surgeon would improve my precision

and that’s exactly what he proposes his

thesis presentation this was the concept

drawing we have the camera again same

sort of tracking camera off to the right

it’s monitoring the bones it’s

monitoring the surgeons tools but this

time the surgeons tool is smart the

surgeon’s tool knows when it should cut

it knows when it should not cut it can

start it can stop it can slow down it

knows what the plan is and it achieves

that plan by adapting to the surgeons

motions Gabe called it the PFS precision

freehand sculptor I didn’t think it

would work luckily though Tony Franco

and Craig thought it would work they

approached CMU about licensing the

technology and they did and they create

a company called blue belt technologies

it was named for the Beltway that here

in Pittsburgh is closest to Carnegie

Mellon so Craig was my CEO at Caesarea

at the time and it was well within his

right to say hey Kosta you’re going to

work on PFS too so I ended up becoming

the first employee of blue belt and even

though I didn’t think that the

technology would work originally it now

became my job to make it work so I moved

over out of our concern office into a

new office with Craig over on the corner

of Friendship Park and Gabe joined us in

a part-time manner and we started

writing code and we start

building robots so this is the first

blue belt sponsored prototype for PFS

this is called the ugly tool you can see

that it’s fairly aptly named this tool

was great as a proof-of-concept but

would pinch your fingers if you held it

wrong

the next tool is called the TP FS it’s

obviously much more attractive

unfortunately surgeons didn’t like to

use it because it weighed 5 pounds also

if you ran it for more than a couple

minutes it would start to heat up and

burn your hands so we had lots of wet

paper towels wrapping around to try to

get through our experiments so this

wasn’t going to work out but it allowed

us to get the research more advanced it

allowed us to do some cadaver trials and

it allowed Gabe to get his PhD research

completed once Gabe had his PhD he

decided he was going to go and move to

California and work for intuitive and

build the Vinci robots ironically enough

so what we did is we hired some more

engineers and we built some more

prototypes

fortunately Craig was a master at

keeping these small companies funded

through looking at opportunities in

local economic development like the life

sciences greenhouse here in Pittsburgh

but also in sponsored research coming

from companies this is the NP F s tool

this was adapted tool for our technology

that was applied to spine surgery there

are a few doctors at Allegheny general

that were interested in applying this

for spine in order to protect the spinal

cord when you’re doing a laminectomy

procedure we also the found

opportunities working with Johnson &

Johnson and their implant company Depew

building yet another anny prototype that

we called the knee FS but again we still

didn’t have an fda-approved product we

were a small company chasing funding

just trying to stay alive to develop a

technology so we chased other

opportunities we did some work in some

early medical augmented-reality the

project we called image overlaying we

also got some grant funding in order to

develop a computer-assisted hematoma

evacuation tool does it basically suck

the blood clot out of your brain if you

had head trauma we call this one the

you play the video please if you click

oops all right though edit that one out

in post I guess is that can you play

all right sorry about that this was our

last go as a little startup company we

were trying to promote the PFS not as a

end application we just couldn’t get

enough funding enough wherewithal to do

the FDA route to build our own product

and so our idea is we’re going to

promote this as a technology that you

can bolt on to existing navigation

systems so by this point there are a lot

of companies doing computer assisted

surgery and we wanted to provide the

technology we didn’t want to necessarily

build a system from the ground up so

this is our way of demonstrating how PFS

worked you can see that the tool is

extending and retracting starting and

stopping in order to conform to in this

so we worked long and hard we did a lot

of different prototypes we tried to keep

the company lasting as long as we could

but eventually our funding ran out

fortunately Craig was able to find one

more opportunity for us there was a

local super o angel investor that was

able to fund blue belt with an A round

and basically take us out of the

research lab and make us a real company

and here’s that real company back in

2010 our mission was to actually create

PFS as an end-user application get the

approvals that we needed and sell this

now of course the company got bigger

from the three-person group that we

started off with and so with more people

and more resources you need more money

so in 2011 we had to get another round

of funding this time we were actually

purchased by a health point capital

which was a private equity group out of

New York Health Point Capital allow us

to staff up and focus and really

concentrate on getting our FDA

application in so that we could sell

this thing one of the things the health

point did was they brought in a new CEO

that had some more international sales

experience his name was Eric timko Eric

is out of Minneapolis but he was okay

because he was from Pittsburgh he grew

up in saxenburg he’s from Butler County

and he was okay with us because he was

the next year after lots of hard work

getting our European approvals which for

us it was a little easier to do that

first we did our first demand in Belgium

off to the right you see me and Brent go

and Eric and Adam and John are from our

European group and also dr. belham ins

front-and-center who performed the first

live Navia taste on a patient at the end

of that year we did all the paperwork

necessary for our FDA approval and in

fact that FDA approval paperwork

included studies that showed that we

were actually as good if not better than

the big robot competition that was out

there and we were far better than any of

the mechanical instruments that our

technology was intended to replace the

next year we started to blow up our

minneapolis operations we actually had a

manufacturing and sales corporate

operations center in minneapolis and so

we were kind of a two-headed monster

pittsburgh state research and

development

the appleís built and sold the units we

also did our hundredth case the

following year we declined to 500 cases

this is solely the Pittsburgh group here

you can see that we were getting bigger

getting better

we’re in dancing into other areas of

surgery when went back to total hip

replacement surgery we went forward into

total knee replacement surgery and we

finally had enough critical mass to take

the obligatory trip on the Gateway

clipper and by a thousandth case in 2015

we were a real deal in orthopedics

people were starting to talk about us

we’re getting analysts visit us our

booth at the local there at the global

conferences and orthopedics so the only

thing left for Bluebell we were selling

product we were getting surgeries done

on patient was market validation that’s

Craigan Branco and the market validation

came in 2016

Bluebell was purchased by Smith & Nephew

with the nephew was the number four

orthopaedic company in the world and

they’ve assimilated us we are now a year

in but there was still one more personal

milestone that I had to achieve my dad

so this talk is supposed to be about

revolutions I can’t claim to be any kind

of a revolutionary as I said I didn’t

believe in the idea at first but I think

that what you can do is you can identify

a great group of people and if there is

a revolutionary idea out there that you

can glom on to this great group and you

can get together and you can start a

revolution and make it work thank you

very much [Applause]

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