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Building Kingston’s future | Kevin Davis | TEDxKingstonUponThames


could have a quick show of hands how

many people here actually live in the

borough of Kingston that’s pretty good

okay can we put your hands up again if

you live in the boro kingston and you’re

not a student here yes pretty good well

see thing interesting about use it you

pay tax to me and we pay a lot of tax in

Kingston an awful lot of tax and I often

wonder why is that people want to come

and live in the boro because obviously

we do we do charge of our attacks and

housing is very very expensive in

Kingston I wonder why is that people

want to move here so I’m going to give

it a bit of a story about what I think

some of that is and why kinks are such a

great place and we’re going to move on

and talk about what’s going on in London

and how that affects us and what we’re

going to do about it as well there’s

nothing that’s a really interesting

aspect of it so London’s are enormously

historic i think i should say this that

is the most important place in london of

course I’m supposed to say that as a

lead of the council but I certainly

believe it very much if you go back

1,200 years we’d have been underwater

here put down a quite a lot of water

actually because at that time the only

bits of Kingston that were above water

worth what were the Royal Enclosure

which is what you see now today’s the

marketplace in the market house and the

church of all saints which sits in the

middle and it was surrounded by this

water it was in very very important

place in London because it was the only

other river crossing bridge across the

river other than London Bridge which is

obviously much further up river so it

incredibly important very historic in

about 8 28 the King’s came together here

with the archbishop see a note and

struck a deal basically the deal was how

do we divide up the country how do what

do we do and what do you do is the

bishops and the church and what does the

monarchy do over here and it’s divided

up this this you know such a way that

the history of that has stuck with us

even to today so the reason that you get

bishops that sits in the House of Lords

at the moment is because of that deal

that was done in Kingston in 925 all of

those kings came together well most of

them actually been killed off by

one king but they came together a crown

one king alone the first King of England

crown here in Kingston in about nine to

eight they’re very very historic is when

they first anointed a king which you

seen still see today in the crowning of

Kings in Westminster Abbey and in fact

all the kings of England work round here

until William the Conqueror came along

and rather unfortunately decided that

Kingston was kind of not at his place

and when I thought to Westminster and

built Westminster Abbey and from then on

in their crown kings in that town so

this is why Kingston is such a historic

place it’s at a rich history it didn’t

stop there it obviously had a massively

important role in the aircraft industry

it was certainly active in even during

the First World War in creating planes

and Second World War looks very well

known for the Jump Jet the harrier jump

jet which is built here up until i think

it was the late 80s Early 90s when the

factory closed here massive history

their huge role in surbiton around

hearing cholera first clean water coming

out of there from the works that you now

see down there and used much by the

University so massive history there’s

existed in Kingston it’s part of the

reason why it is such a great place is

also unique Kingston because has so many

things within its boundary there’s no

other borrower in London that actually

has within it everything it’s got this

University the crown court all of the

acts excellent schools of college a

river the best shopping outside the west

end it is the biggest retail place

outside the West End knocks socks off

Croydon and the rest of them it’s

fantastic here down the south of the bar

you’ve got rolling hills I mean I am go

down there sometimes to have meetings

with and meet residents down there I’m

discussing ditch clearing you know which

is not really something I expect the

London borough leaders have discussed

with every resident is clearing out

bitches but it is an enormously diverse

place I often said you could stick a

wall around Kingston and it would

probably survived quite happily without

ever having to talk to anybody else ever

again I put a ring on a funny little hat

and I call myself Pope

but anyway it is a brilliant place to

live but the thing about kingston is as

you probably realize from what I’ve said

to you is that it’s changed is

constantly constantly changed change the

way that people live here the history of

it has changed the place it is it shapes

fit in the way that it does and actually

Kingston is going through another

massively dramatic change which is not

always noticed but it’s part of this

huge context of the change that’s

happening in London 18 months ago when

Boris was still the mayor he held a

celebration in City Hall at the top of

City Hall overlooking a tower bridge he

bought together whole bunch of the

borough leaders and others who are

important across London he considered to

be important across London to celebrate

the fact that London had reached 8.6

million people living here one of the

largest cities in the world certainly

one of the largest in Europe but

actually we’d reached it again because

that fact we previously been that size

eight point six million back prior to

the Second World War that 1939 and after

the war we fled London we all started to

move out of London move away we felt the

countryside was a better place to be and

it was a changing environment now to a

ver a variety of reasons one is that

obviously we’ve got more people moving

here from over abroad it also got an

aging population buts that’s continuing

to live in the boro so you know many

many people who retire don’t now set up

here and disappear off down to Dorset

and live in that lovely sort of thatched

box in the middle of a field because

when you’re ninety five living in a fast

box in the middle of the field is

necessarily the best place to live out

in years so we’re seeing a massive trend

of people retiring in London into town

centres and not retiring out and that’s

hugely increased of the population we

stopped the population decline in about

70 s 80s early 80s and it then started

to climb up again now that 8.6 million

is anticipated to reach about 11 million

by 2050 and that is a huge huge increase

I don’t know how many of you catch a

train in London in the morning but we

are moving closer to those lovely indian

trains where you just hang on I hope you

get there and then another train doesn’t

come the other way or cow cross the path

in front of you because that would be

disastrous you had to go into a halt but

it is getting like that and we’ve got to

think about the context of that and how

we deal with that in this borough so

what is it me of the Kingston well the

predictions are pretty pretty pretty mad

really I mean we will love Kingston

people want to move here and we can’t

stop them moving here because beginnings

own own will and I mean it’s owned by

private individuals and private

companies but actually I our projections

are that by well it was by 2050 we’d see

a thirty-four percent increase in

population three months ago they revise

those figures because actually there

won’t go fast enough we’ve been to move

expanding eleven percent in population

in 10 years in Kingston eleven percent

so they’re now saying instead of 20 50 x

20 39 would have expanded by thirty four

percent and that will push our

population from about a hundred and

seventy eight thousand is now in the

borough to well over 210,000 215,000

that will mean that instead of this sort

of 57,000 homes that are currently here

we’re probably going to be closer to 75

thousand homes that we need to find

space for to accommodate people now that

is a dramatic change from where we are

now and it’s one that’s quite painful in

many ways and we’ve got to make sure

that in all that change we bring the

right infrastructure in where you know

bringing in more train so we can get in

in the morning we’re sorting out the

roads that does mean putting in an awful

lot more cycle lanes so I’m sure divide

the room in some ways but it will it

means a lawful lot more that because I

said to one of the deputy mayor’s

recently this is not about modal shift

from one thing to the other from trains

to casters bicycles this is about I need

every mode doing everything it possibly

can if we’re going to move that number

of people

all about the town in a sensible way so

it’s a big big shift and a big change

that we’re going to be encompass over

the next few years about when if that

was two years ago now we put out a

survey for all residents in the bar it

went to every household is quite a thick

serve a big census as you know if you

realize but whenever anybody doesn’t

mean marketing so this shut out paper

food people’s doors and expect a

response it’s usually very very small I

mean 1% typically two percent if you’re

really lucky three percent it is really

controversial what you’re suggesting we

had about a nine nine and a half ten

percent response rate button from

residents and one of the striking things

about that was that we asked very much

about this whole growth agenda and a

whole how do we do with housing and all

those sorts of issues and everybody

everybody about eighty-seven percent of

people who responded said that they

wanted us to build more homes they did

need more housing of course there’s one

thing that what goes wrong with that and

I’m the same as everybody else of course

I’m going to say I want more housing of

course i’m going to say want more homes

for our kids and brothers but i don’t

want it next to me and there’s the

contradiction that we all have to face

in the boro over the next few years and

one of the discussions I think we all

have to have and I’m really happy to

have with any of you in this room is how

do we engage people around those sorts

of difficult issues how do we consult

people about things because typically

when councils consult what they’re doing

is saying to you we’re going to do this

to you guys do you like it there’s no

choice it’s often seen in these things

because it’s all too late in that choice

and people don’t necessarily spawned

directly work very well to that to that

decision making so we’ve got to find a

new way of working with the people that

live here to build a kingston that’s fit

for the future that they will live in

and the future that their kids hopefully

will live in and others as well and it’s

trying to understand and I’m pick how we

make those consultations work in the

future

what do we do and I’ll give you a

classic example as I it’s happened to me

a couple of weeks ago the council so

there’s this whole range of things that

were supposed to be looking at closing

down over the next few years because of

the austerity which is still biting

really hard but somebody came as a

proposal these centers we had they said

this 15 these centers we’re gonna close

two centers I said great okay that’s

fine i mean if that’s really what we

have to do then let’s go out and consult

so they said well yeah but do you know

we know which to it is so we can’t

really go out and consult with two

because that’s not really a decision is

it because we’re just asking them

whether they like the idea we were close

to so i said well what’s the solution

they said to me we’ll come we just add a

third i said well what’s the third floor

they said well that’s just to give a

choice i said but are you closing the

third no will you ever close the third

no so where’s the choice and that’s kind

of the issues that we have to face how

do we work with you how do we sit with

you and create the future with you how

do we engage with people that live here

in a meaningful way that means that we

can all work together to create the

answers we need and that actually if

we’re ever to build in a way that

maintains the history of the borough

that makes it a great place to live that

makes it a place that all of you decided

you want to come and stay if we can get

back right then we can build a better

place and even those kings and those

bishops divide it up back in the 9th century thank you very much

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