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A Moment of Choice | Vyjayanti Mogli | TEDxBangaloreWomen


gender in India and world over is mostly

understood in a very binary way a very

binary in a very polarized way that

largely looks at the anatomy of human

beings as male and his female and that

unfortunately is a myth

gender is much more than a person’s

Anatomy it cannot be reduced to what

lies or does not lie between the thighs

of a person it is how a person

identifies himself herself or themselves

it is how a person wishes to be

identified by society this is the

difference and this difference needs to

be separated the difference between

biological sex that people cannot choose

that is assigned to them at birth and

the gender that people are should be

what do transgender people feel about

themselves we just spoke of the gender

binary transgender people are mostly

understood as the third gender which

some of some of us do identify but as I

said earlier gender is a continuum a

spectrum and gender has within itself a

huge diversity so there are some who

identify within the gender binary and

some who do not some who do not wish to

be labeled as anything almost all

transgender people have a condition

for various reasons and for various

unfortunate reasons is was and continues

to be heavily pathologized it was called

gender identity disorder and yet

continues to be called gender I didn’t

identity disorder in the International

classification of diseases that India

follows it is a pity that it’s yet

called gender identity disorder because

it is not a disorder it’s a difference

and just a condition those of us who

clearly identify within the gender

binary and those of us who do not

identify within the gender binary are

all transgender transgender people could

be transgender heterosexual people there

could be transgender people who could be

lesbian male to female transitioning

transitioned on transitioned people who

are heterosexual and who could be

homosexual too so these are two

different things

some where our society of first Kate’s

gender and gender identity with sexual

orientation which are two different

things they may intersect but these are

two different things there’s also a

level of stigmatization of rare

intersections of gender gender identity

and sexual orientation within the

communities there there’s a stereotype

that transgender people are mostly male

to female which we are but we are just

not just male to female as much as there

are male to female transgender people

there are also female to male

transgender people but then when the

society thinks of transgender people

we are almost always thinking of male to

female transgender people and minorities

within minorities get further

marginalized and there are multiple

realizations that operate I come as the

as my friend introduced me from a very

meta lineal setup and why is it

matrilineal because at many levels

culture has subverted patriarchy turned

its over its head in its own ways has

formed communes and hence it’s maitre

lineal as a child I was very clear that

I’m a girl

there was just no confusion in my mind I

took very easily to imitating my mother

and the lady of the women figures around

me mmm and this continued in childhood

my parents didn’t seem to have much of a

problem with it but as I grew older and

came into adolescence and puberty it

became a problem

I also suffered similar similar ways of

harassment or you know domestic

harassment that girls suffer when they

get when they get followed and they

complain about it to their parents many

if not all parents often if not always

say why did you go out so late why were

you wearing these clothes can’t you come

home early so I did and it’s just not

limited to me it’s something that women

suffer it is something that transgender

people suffer to which is a culture of

survivor blaming in school the school

that I went to was a considered a good

school and I was repeatedly and over a

period of three years repeatedly

molested denuded football raped by

seniors in school my school is

considered to be a very privileged

school where we have the children of

Union ministers whose grandfathers are

Union ministers whose fathers are MPs

and I’m talking about the early 90s when

King was not criminalized dragon was

criminalized only when one avarice ooh

the child of a vice chancellor of

animala university was brutally killed

it took his death upon navara Sue’s

death for the state of tamil nadu to

first criminalize dragging and that was

in 1997 I completed my tenth in 1995 so

this violence that I suffered was

between 93 94 and 95 when dragging was

not criminalized in fact teachers and

elders and parents alike I mean parents

perhaps not but teachers and people in

school and sometimes parents who would

stop being a sissy and so on so these

children four of them used to come to

school with security used to treat the

school like their back yard or like

their dorm at the school ran on the

donations of the grandfather the Union

Minister and the father of the MP so the

the school management and teachers were

quite like puppets had no agency to

stand up and call out and when one such

teacher did when he saw that a pellet he

saw a pellet fall into the classroom

which was pelted at one of the girls and

when he opened the peg the pellet made

of paper he saw that it had caricatures

of the girls in denuded girls in sexual

acts and he pulled them up

and correctly pulled him up but then the

very next day this teacher was um foot

balled when when three vans full of

goons came with hockey sticks and played

hockey with him so that was the culture

of impunity and violence and I’m just

reminded of the brilliant lawyer Brenda

Grover who says that we live and we’ve

perpetuated a culture of impunity and a

culture of violence I was told that I

should not complain about this the

choicest of expletives and four-letter

words and cuss words were used to

silence me I was football

I was denuded sodomized

and many things happened and I was told

that if ever I did complain they would

storm into my house and they would do

such terrible things to my mother and

father and slit their throats so as a 12

as a 13 as a 14 as a 15 year old I lived

with this real fear of not not my fear

initially was about this violence

eventually it was not about this

violence because it went on for three

years

eventually it was about me talking about

it to somebody me letting it out to

somebody and my parents were very

middle-class would at best complain to

the principal who would admonish these

children and nothing will change it was

not the era of RTI it was not the era of

social media today we have citizen

journalists doubling up a citizen

journalists thanks to social media

thanks to the internet thanks to camera

phones

I had to internalize all of this and as

a consequence my stomach’s and innards

would zigzag between lucy’s and

constipation and my mother could never

understand why I had why I was either

having lucy’s or having constipation um

from there I withdrew as an adolescent I

understood my lesson out of this was

that the society does not respect women

and these were not boys who were violent

with me right from the beginning they

were they seemed to be okay in the

beginning and some of the sexual

interaction initially was consensual and

please be aware that children have

adolescent sexuality and there’s

something called child psychosexual

development but what I understood out of

it was that it is important for people

to be known as hyper masculine alpha

male insofar as their alpha male insofar

as they considered cisgender they are

yet they will yet be able to navigate

through the society but if they

understood as women they are treated as

sublegal citizens and I went into a

shell

I didn’t express my gender thereafter as

much I accessed employment not as a

transgender person and please be aware

that transgender people barely access

employment people thought I was a

cisgender gay man people thought I

didn’t tell them but people thought and

I didn’t take any trouble to debunk

those myths because I thought my my

access to employment was far more

important than people knowing me as

transgender but some of my confidante

friends knew not everybody knew and then

came the historic and the watershed

moment which was 15 April 2014 when the

apex Court delivered the null sir versus

Union of India judgement delivered by

Justice Radha Krishnan and justice sikri

it said that transgender people have

always had and everybody not just

transgender people have equal rights

under the Constitution which are not for

some for some time but for all forever

it also said it also said any insistence

on sexual reassignment surgery or

hormone replacement therapy or any

medical procedure to recognize

transgender people as transgender is

both immoral and illegal but I think

I’ve had the huge privilege to work

during this time and to interact with

feminists Hedra communities they may not

know the word feminism but they take to

it as equality people talk about cutting

edge HR practices and I saw cutting edge

HR practices at the odd does where he

drew women do sex worker and one such HR

practice is that the client or the man

shall not choose the sex worker the sex

workers shall serve first in first

served that is because when men choose

sex workers they will end up choosing

somebody who’s stereotypically

considered beautiful she was fair who’s

lean who’s voluptuous perhaps and people

who don’t fit into that

definition will not get to make money so

in Hindi I heard one of the senior

Hitler transwomen say by him yahaha kisi

KO roti canai ki r za d hey and this was

a moment of truth where millions of

dollars and billions of dollars were not

invested in packaging common sense like

sorry with all respect but packaging

common sense into some training program

and selling it for expensive

astronomical rates like some

corporations do or many corporations do

i also wish to take this opportunity to

demystify and debunk some myths about

transgender people myth 1 transgender

people are sexual perverts well it is

our skewed understanding of sex and the

lens through which we look differences

that perverts our understanding it

perverts our understanding miss to

transgender people are sex workers and

beggars the third myth they are not

ready we have certain jobs and most of

them all of them are not ready for that

job they need to train themselves and

come up the learning curve and who says

this Wall Street Giants at the peak and

pinnacle of prosperity and profits say

this to communities as transgender

people who are living on poverty and

subsistence wages of begging and sex

work that they up skill and talent

themselves so it is time and the theme

of this event is time it is high time

there is no right time here’s the place

and this is the time next myth

not available where are they we don’t

find them behold job fairs they don’t

come they don’t walk in don’t you see

them at traffic signals

don’t you see them in trains I promise

you that you will find graduates and

post graduates among those standing on

the road all dolled up in makeup and

doing sex work and I don’t say this

because I I do not come from a line of

jurisprudence that criminalize a sex

work I believe that nobody should have

to do sex work and I don’t also think we

stand this transgender community all by

ourselves

we stand wherever we stand at whichever

place we stand because the first and the

generous second generation feminists the

Gloria steinem’s the Umar chakravarthy’s

of JNU the Sharmila Regas all of them

said stand on our shoulders they lent us

their shoulders and the women’s rights

activists lent us their shoulders and we

do not stand all by ourselves entirely

we stand firm on the shoulders lent to

us by women and our women sisters on

that note I exhort each one of you to go

back and to give a fair chance to start

the dialogue I would not just

transgender people to start the dialogue

with different constituencies that have

historically been marginalized be they

women be they transgender people be they

people with disabilities be there people

living with HIV so I exhort you to do

that and remember the only thing that

separates us from the rest of you is just opportunity thank you

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