we want to build into a two-planet
species to be able to go down in history
with a tremendous heritage of charting a
course for this great nation to be the
one that leads humanity to the two
planet system by permanence on Mars
this is great I appreciate everybody
coming tonight and they we worked pretty
hard on this book and I had more hair
and my beard was black when I started
this but we worked it out and we had a
great time putting this together it was
a challenging timeline and you know when
you do what the future it’s pretty
exciting so and this guy’s full of full
throttle vision about where we’re going
so it was a real treat to do this book
but I think you know if you have to
start anywhere it’s obviously in
emblazoned in people’s mind and
certainly mine is a young guy watching
you and Neil come out of the Eagle the
lunar module and and frankly I’ve always
wondered why it took you so long to get
out because I was wait I had the whole
neighborhood was fixated on this I kept
promising when they were gonna get out
there pretty soon what what was that I
was told not to open that hatch after
Neil until 22 and a half minutes as that
I had to wait inside and look out and
watch him okay go down and so he went
out there with a little shovel I don’t
know how he got the shovel I did send
the camera down to him on a very
sophisticated machine it had a little
pulley here and a rope on it and there
kind of wet the best Johnson Space
Center oh yeah very advanced great way I
saw him grumbling around picking up this
sample and I figured this could be
pretty easy look how easy it is for him
to do that so you get down there so then
22 and a half minutes expired and now I
back out of the hatch and then I
remember the checklist very carefully it
said partially close the hatch so I said
you know I’m gonna partially close the
hatch
being careful not to lock it on my way
out
yeah not so funny they’re hidden a
handle on what was that like I mean when
you think about it today
you said magnificent desolation what do
you remember about I I really couldn’t
describe it other than the word desolate
it was the most lifeless thing I really
ever seen you know I’ve been around the
ocean and looked at a lot of sand but
but this was all kind of one color and
as shadows were black and the colors
were different shades of gray little
Rollie pollie
indentations previous craters and
absolutely no sign of life we knew there
was no air but you look at this sky and
with the sunlight it was sort of a
velvet black he could look out and see
the horizon curved away and if there was
a boulder out there you could see it it
was that clear but what I knew about it
then and then what I saw not a good
place to set up housekeeping okay we’re
gonna stay in this little machine and
then we’re gonna get the hell out of
here and get back home do you feel the
Space Station you know it’s a hundred
and seven billion dollar investment
sixteen countries have worked hard to
put that together we’ve got astronauts
in there right now do you think it’s
been being used or underutilized now for
that shuttle system it never quite made
40 flights a year or some people even
promised 50 flights a year nine one year
most of the time six flights not the
safest thing the reason why the shuttle
had to be designed that way is because
the previous program that was going to
follow Apollo that we really wanted
was miss managed let me see and we had
to cancel it and we had just scurry and
put together a shuttle system you’re a
big proponent of space tourism space
tourism with this particular vehicle
just last recently had its first engine
test yes well you know how a lot of this
started after we got the shuttle about
going I worked with some United Airlines
pilots who wanted the airline to buy
some shuttles so that they could fly
shuttles instead of 727s we’re getting
kind of bored but of course the idea
would be that they would put in the
cargo bay our number of tourists but
driven driven is but this particular
vehicles this is Richard Branson you’ve
met him and talked to him a lot this is
a six passenger to pilot suborbital
right vehicle how important is
suborbital to get people acclimated to
the true experience of orbital flight is
it a well you not ask the master
marketer Sir Richard yeah it’ll tell you
that you’re going into space now not
only that you’re gonna be called and
asked for not man that’s pretty close
yeah yeah now some people claim Richard
of course thought that well we we can do
this orbital now and people can look out
these big windows and pretty soon we’ll
be able to go from one place to another
I don’t think Richard understood what
ballistic missiles do but they they fire
and they go and they cover a long
distance yeah okay yeah but they also go
pretty damn fast going up and man do
they come pretty fast coming down it’s
not a good system for point-to-point
transportation now there’s another
private sector activity that’s
interesting is Robert Bigelow is a hotel
operator but has spent quite a few
millions of dollars now investing in and
double structures you visited and just
got to long ago his wife is wondering
where all the money’s going but he’s
definitely he’s already launched two
small prototypes of this inflatable
structure what’s your view of habitation
modules in this approach this is a
private sector initiative he’s spending
his own money well my first impression
was when you launch them everything is
gathered around the central part and and
when you want to use them like Skylab or
something you expand it and of course
Skylab was launched that way and it had
a lot of things mounted on the inside
some things on the outside you can’t do
that if the thing is going to be
squished down and then go out like this
so I was a little skeptical about the
whole idea but then I saw the ambition
that this guy has and how he has
developed the central part of it after
it expands and it appears that he can
probably get a good bit done he’s got a
great ambition he wants he’s put a
couple of small ones up he’s gonna build
sort of a space station then he wants to
put these inflatables on the moon I said
to Bill Bob I said how are you gonna get
the people there he said something like
taken from a movie I think build it and
they will come let’s start I’m still
wondering now they’re gonna yeah let’s
talk about America’s space policy you
used to looted the flag on standing on
the moon and here we are decades after
that historic moment and are you again
you’re getting back to this unified
space policy what has to happen in your
mind to do the mission and missions to
Mars that are needed to do what we write
about in the book of long-term
habitation of that Red Planet well
President Bush somehow was talked into
return to
this time to stay well it didn’t come
together very well but that was because
of the implementation and then the
succeeding years I’ve been thinking
about the capabilities of other nations
to be able to do this and why would we
want to get into a race with them when
we already won the race now the
alternative is forget to move I think
about that for a while and that’s not
too good an idea we sure invested an
awful lot and learning an awful lot
about the moon maybe we can bring
nations together instead of each one
doing what they want to do bring them
all together and we’ll be the country
that brings them together in an
international lunar Development
Authority and we need to test some of
our interplanetary habitation modules
why don’t we test one on the moon the
temperature goes very hot – very cold so
we’re testing this and we’re also
looking at how good it handles radiation
and is it doing the job that it’s
supposed to do we sure hope that it is
because now it’s the hub and we got a
safe Japanese to land it for us and then
robotic ly we did the best we could
because we’re gonna do that same thing
on the moon of Mars focus now but that’s
not just landing one thing we want to
build a base on the moon so let’s take
some of Bigelow’s inflatables and
sprinkle them around for them around
this thing it is giving us what we need
to then do exactly the same thing from
the moon to Mars on the surface of Mars
I do know how to get to Mars and bring
the spacecraft back empty so it can take
other people
sounds like one-way trip so that but
it’s not well it is but
I call it permanence yeah and we have
our minutes you have curiosity rover
this thing’s a ton took a ton of money
to get it there but it’s really doing
some spectacular things and one of the
things that we’ve written in the book
how familiar it’s making Mars to the
public try to explain a little bit more
about what you talk about in the book
about long-term permanence on Mars what
why would why would we want to do that
as a country what is it that you feel is
the sparkplug behind something like that
and how the hard part is getting the
American public to be interested in it
these are all very complicated questions
but it’s definitely why go to the moon
yeah it’s there okay somebody’s going to
go there eventually let me talk a little
bit about these Rovers that are there
yes just for an example there were two
Rovers before curiosity Spirit and
Opportunity opposite sides of Mars put
there about 10 years ago
supposed to last 90 days they were a
little better than that one of them kind
of pooped out after five years and the
other ones still go on now the program
manager for this from Bernal works with
JPL Steve Squyres said verbally but that
put it in writing that there are two
Rovers that were working for five years
with one day’s instructions and then
they were trying to do what the one
day’s instructions were but they were
very conservative because it didn’t know
whether it was going to tip over the
hill or not when it began to get close
the instructions had stopped don’t do
anything we’ll figure it out well this
is pretty slow activities so slow that
he said what these two Rovers had done
in five years could have been done in
one week if we had human intelligence
and
orbit around Mars it’s a picture by a
friend of our standard I always look at
this picture and I keep thinking okay
what kind of advice would you give
somebody that’s like you did coming down
a ladder and then putting a foot on the
surface of Mars the for the first time
is there any kind of advice I tried to
get him to cough this up in the book we
just never got there but don’t trip on
the rocks
it might tear the spacesuit well it’s
gonna bring any seamstress yeah a long
with us but I mean it’s the distance the
the idea of communication they’re pretty
much on their own this is not a Mission
Control in your ear do this Buzz pick
this up do that they’re going to be
pretty much isolated on their own for
the first time right we got a lot of
learning to do now whether this makes
sense or not I thought it did let’s send
three people to focus year and a half
okay before we send them they’ve got a
return capability of another
interplanetary spacecraft so they stay
there for for a year and a half while
things are placed down there and they
assemble and so I’m going to be generous
I’ll bring them back and send another
three for a year and a half I’m going to
be so generous that I’ll bring them back
and send another three the third group
now but this time the third group has a
lander with them and ranae get through
putting this base together on Mars the
International Mars base they know more
about what that thing is and anybody
here on earth permanence is what we
really want anyway we want to build into
a two-planet species and just think of
the history of humans on earth being
written hundred thousands of years and
the
let’s do let’s do some questions and the
answers here I’m sure we’ve got a scat
of things and I actually I want and II
wanted to voice your opinion okay so so
dad you we you know you have over 250
pages a great idea that in the book
there’s lots of really cool stuff and I
think you’re going to be there in 2016
yeah and you’re gonna be on Air Force
One again let’s just have you got your
vision in 15 seconds though what are you
gonna tell them is the reason he should
commit to going to Mars I hope you tell
your successor that you have done all
you could during your administration to
help your successor of the same party to
be able to go down in history with a
tremendous heritage of charting a course
for this great nation to be the one that
leads humanity to a two planet system by
permanence on Mars and if you haven’t be
where things are gonna happen that you
didn’t expect gentlemen oh yeah the last
row here Yeah right there if you offered
to go to Mars and stay permanently would
you no way
can’t you see how much more valuable I
am right here
you
species to be able to go down in history
with a tremendous heritage of charting a
course for this great nation to be the
one that leads humanity to the two
planet system by permanence on Mars
this is great I appreciate everybody
coming tonight and they we worked pretty
hard on this book and I had more hair
and my beard was black when I started
this but we worked it out and we had a
great time putting this together it was
a challenging timeline and you know when
you do what the future it’s pretty
exciting so and this guy’s full of full
throttle vision about where we’re going
so it was a real treat to do this book
but I think you know if you have to
start anywhere it’s obviously in
emblazoned in people’s mind and
certainly mine is a young guy watching
you and Neil come out of the Eagle the
lunar module and and frankly I’ve always
wondered why it took you so long to get
out because I was wait I had the whole
neighborhood was fixated on this I kept
promising when they were gonna get out
there pretty soon what what was that I
was told not to open that hatch after
Neil until 22 and a half minutes as that
I had to wait inside and look out and
watch him okay go down and so he went
out there with a little shovel I don’t
know how he got the shovel I did send
the camera down to him on a very
sophisticated machine it had a little
pulley here and a rope on it and there
kind of wet the best Johnson Space
Center oh yeah very advanced great way I
saw him grumbling around picking up this
sample and I figured this could be
pretty easy look how easy it is for him
to do that so you get down there so then
22 and a half minutes expired and now I
back out of the hatch and then I
remember the checklist very carefully it
said partially close the hatch so I said
you know I’m gonna partially close the
hatch
being careful not to lock it on my way
out
yeah not so funny they’re hidden a
handle on what was that like I mean when
you think about it today
you said magnificent desolation what do
you remember about I I really couldn’t
describe it other than the word desolate
it was the most lifeless thing I really
ever seen you know I’ve been around the
ocean and looked at a lot of sand but
but this was all kind of one color and
as shadows were black and the colors
were different shades of gray little
Rollie pollie
indentations previous craters and
absolutely no sign of life we knew there
was no air but you look at this sky and
with the sunlight it was sort of a
velvet black he could look out and see
the horizon curved away and if there was
a boulder out there you could see it it
was that clear but what I knew about it
then and then what I saw not a good
place to set up housekeeping okay we’re
gonna stay in this little machine and
then we’re gonna get the hell out of
here and get back home do you feel the
Space Station you know it’s a hundred
and seven billion dollar investment
sixteen countries have worked hard to
put that together we’ve got astronauts
in there right now do you think it’s
been being used or underutilized now for
that shuttle system it never quite made
40 flights a year or some people even
promised 50 flights a year nine one year
most of the time six flights not the
safest thing the reason why the shuttle
had to be designed that way is because
the previous program that was going to
follow Apollo that we really wanted
was miss managed let me see and we had
to cancel it and we had just scurry and
put together a shuttle system you’re a
big proponent of space tourism space
tourism with this particular vehicle
just last recently had its first engine
test yes well you know how a lot of this
started after we got the shuttle about
going I worked with some United Airlines
pilots who wanted the airline to buy
some shuttles so that they could fly
shuttles instead of 727s we’re getting
kind of bored but of course the idea
would be that they would put in the
cargo bay our number of tourists but
driven driven is but this particular
vehicles this is Richard Branson you’ve
met him and talked to him a lot this is
a six passenger to pilot suborbital
right vehicle how important is
suborbital to get people acclimated to
the true experience of orbital flight is
it a well you not ask the master
marketer Sir Richard yeah it’ll tell you
that you’re going into space now not
only that you’re gonna be called and
asked for not man that’s pretty close
yeah yeah now some people claim Richard
of course thought that well we we can do
this orbital now and people can look out
these big windows and pretty soon we’ll
be able to go from one place to another
I don’t think Richard understood what
ballistic missiles do but they they fire
and they go and they cover a long
distance yeah okay yeah but they also go
pretty damn fast going up and man do
they come pretty fast coming down it’s
not a good system for point-to-point
transportation now there’s another
private sector activity that’s
interesting is Robert Bigelow is a hotel
operator but has spent quite a few
millions of dollars now investing in and
double structures you visited and just
got to long ago his wife is wondering
where all the money’s going but he’s
definitely he’s already launched two
small prototypes of this inflatable
structure what’s your view of habitation
modules in this approach this is a
private sector initiative he’s spending
his own money well my first impression
was when you launch them everything is
gathered around the central part and and
when you want to use them like Skylab or
something you expand it and of course
Skylab was launched that way and it had
a lot of things mounted on the inside
some things on the outside you can’t do
that if the thing is going to be
squished down and then go out like this
so I was a little skeptical about the
whole idea but then I saw the ambition
that this guy has and how he has
developed the central part of it after
it expands and it appears that he can
probably get a good bit done he’s got a
great ambition he wants he’s put a
couple of small ones up he’s gonna build
sort of a space station then he wants to
put these inflatables on the moon I said
to Bill Bob I said how are you gonna get
the people there he said something like
taken from a movie I think build it and
they will come let’s start I’m still
wondering now they’re gonna yeah let’s
talk about America’s space policy you
used to looted the flag on standing on
the moon and here we are decades after
that historic moment and are you again
you’re getting back to this unified
space policy what has to happen in your
mind to do the mission and missions to
Mars that are needed to do what we write
about in the book of long-term
habitation of that Red Planet well
President Bush somehow was talked into
return to
this time to stay well it didn’t come
together very well but that was because
of the implementation and then the
succeeding years I’ve been thinking
about the capabilities of other nations
to be able to do this and why would we
want to get into a race with them when
we already won the race now the
alternative is forget to move I think
about that for a while and that’s not
too good an idea we sure invested an
awful lot and learning an awful lot
about the moon maybe we can bring
nations together instead of each one
doing what they want to do bring them
all together and we’ll be the country
that brings them together in an
international lunar Development
Authority and we need to test some of
our interplanetary habitation modules
why don’t we test one on the moon the
temperature goes very hot – very cold so
we’re testing this and we’re also
looking at how good it handles radiation
and is it doing the job that it’s
supposed to do we sure hope that it is
because now it’s the hub and we got a
safe Japanese to land it for us and then
robotic ly we did the best we could
because we’re gonna do that same thing
on the moon of Mars focus now but that’s
not just landing one thing we want to
build a base on the moon so let’s take
some of Bigelow’s inflatables and
sprinkle them around for them around
this thing it is giving us what we need
to then do exactly the same thing from
the moon to Mars on the surface of Mars
I do know how to get to Mars and bring
the spacecraft back empty so it can take
other people
sounds like one-way trip so that but
it’s not well it is but
I call it permanence yeah and we have
our minutes you have curiosity rover
this thing’s a ton took a ton of money
to get it there but it’s really doing
some spectacular things and one of the
things that we’ve written in the book
how familiar it’s making Mars to the
public try to explain a little bit more
about what you talk about in the book
about long-term permanence on Mars what
why would why would we want to do that
as a country what is it that you feel is
the sparkplug behind something like that
and how the hard part is getting the
American public to be interested in it
these are all very complicated questions
but it’s definitely why go to the moon
yeah it’s there okay somebody’s going to
go there eventually let me talk a little
bit about these Rovers that are there
yes just for an example there were two
Rovers before curiosity Spirit and
Opportunity opposite sides of Mars put
there about 10 years ago
supposed to last 90 days they were a
little better than that one of them kind
of pooped out after five years and the
other ones still go on now the program
manager for this from Bernal works with
JPL Steve Squyres said verbally but that
put it in writing that there are two
Rovers that were working for five years
with one day’s instructions and then
they were trying to do what the one
day’s instructions were but they were
very conservative because it didn’t know
whether it was going to tip over the
hill or not when it began to get close
the instructions had stopped don’t do
anything we’ll figure it out well this
is pretty slow activities so slow that
he said what these two Rovers had done
in five years could have been done in
one week if we had human intelligence
and
orbit around Mars it’s a picture by a
friend of our standard I always look at
this picture and I keep thinking okay
what kind of advice would you give
somebody that’s like you did coming down
a ladder and then putting a foot on the
surface of Mars the for the first time
is there any kind of advice I tried to
get him to cough this up in the book we
just never got there but don’t trip on
the rocks
it might tear the spacesuit well it’s
gonna bring any seamstress yeah a long
with us but I mean it’s the distance the
the idea of communication they’re pretty
much on their own this is not a Mission
Control in your ear do this Buzz pick
this up do that they’re going to be
pretty much isolated on their own for
the first time right we got a lot of
learning to do now whether this makes
sense or not I thought it did let’s send
three people to focus year and a half
okay before we send them they’ve got a
return capability of another
interplanetary spacecraft so they stay
there for for a year and a half while
things are placed down there and they
assemble and so I’m going to be generous
I’ll bring them back and send another
three for a year and a half I’m going to
be so generous that I’ll bring them back
and send another three the third group
now but this time the third group has a
lander with them and ranae get through
putting this base together on Mars the
International Mars base they know more
about what that thing is and anybody
here on earth permanence is what we
really want anyway we want to build into
a two-planet species and just think of
the history of humans on earth being
written hundred thousands of years and
the
let’s do let’s do some questions and the
answers here I’m sure we’ve got a scat
of things and I actually I want and II
wanted to voice your opinion okay so so
dad you we you know you have over 250
pages a great idea that in the book
there’s lots of really cool stuff and I
think you’re going to be there in 2016
yeah and you’re gonna be on Air Force
One again let’s just have you got your
vision in 15 seconds though what are you
gonna tell them is the reason he should
commit to going to Mars I hope you tell
your successor that you have done all
you could during your administration to
help your successor of the same party to
be able to go down in history with a
tremendous heritage of charting a course
for this great nation to be the one that
leads humanity to a two planet system by
permanence on Mars and if you haven’t be
where things are gonna happen that you
didn’t expect gentlemen oh yeah the last
row here Yeah right there if you offered
to go to Mars and stay permanently would
you no way
can’t you see how much more valuable I
am right here
you
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