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to me the mentality is a really simple
one in an assistant the confidence comes
from preparation you know so when the
game’s on the line
I’m not asking myself to do something
that I haven’t done thousands of times
before right so when I prepare I know
what I’m capable of doing I know what
I’m comfortable doing and I know what
I’m not comfortable doing right and so
in those moments if it looks like I’m
ice cold or not nervous it’s because
I’ve done it thousands of times before
so it’s one more time so that leads me
to talk about a lot of this Kobe tour
this year in Asia is we we reiterate the
Mamba mentality you know can you talk a
little bit about what the Mamba
mentality is because that’s something
that’s been developing over I don’t say
20 years it’s been developing for 35
years since you were a little kid that
Mamba mentality because you didn’t start
working when you got the damn yeah you
started working when you are at Lower
Merion when you were in Italy when you
were five when you’re playing nerf nerf
basketball
so talking I’ll talk about the
development of the Mamba mentality the
pillars the five pillars of this Mamba
mentality and then we’ll kind of break
it down well I mean I overall you know
the idea is a very simple one and you
know the Mamba mentality simply means
trying to be the best version of
yourself that’s what the mentality means
it means every day you’re trying to
become better it’s a constant quest it’s
an infinite quest so starting at the age
of two when I first started playing the
game and on and on and on I always asked
questions I always tried to get better
every single day learn more you’re
asking questions that – oh dude I was
maybe surprised like some people like my
kids at – could do a lot of things
mm-hmm I – I could dribble the
basketball I could shoot a basketball on
the nerf hoop
the house and I would go to practice
with my father I would observe my father
I’d sit and watch games with him see at
first coach yeah I guess you could say
that
you know a lot of things I learned by
being just being around the game right
so by the age of six I was already
strategizing versus other six-year-olds
you know the age of six I figured out
six year olds couldn’t dribble with
their left hand so I said okay a lotta a
lot of 12 year olds can’t dribble with
their well yeah would imagine six so
like I was playing these six year old
kids I would make them dribble with
their left because I knew they couldn’t
so they dribble off their foot I’d pick
it up lay it up do it again drove off
foot pick it up laid up says say shoes
oh it had 63 points I remember mine say
you’re sick so your six-year-old self
could beat your 38 year old selfies you
only scored 60 in the last game yeah no
but I could do it with my left oh so
that’s a problem but um but yeah Mason I
just constantly looked for things to
learn from and very observant when you
when you talk about this love when does
that develop before you did you like it
when you were five or is it something
that kind of gradually reached – I was
born and I was born to play basketball
you know what I mean and I played a lot
of different sports but nothing brought
me the sense of peace and escape you
know that the game of basketball do is
it an escape when you get on the court
is that your Zen time your your your
solitude time yeah even though it’s a
team working yeah when I need that
escape it’s there for me right when I
need a friend it’s there for me you know
what I need to vent and don’t donkey the
mama come this there you know so yeah
the game is absolutely everything for
you mean when you when we talk about
trying to get kids to be passionate I
don’t think every kid I don’t think your
situation is the norm not every kid is
knows they’re passionate two or five
right how do kids find that passion that
because you know you you embraced it
right away any experience we try to put
them in different things try to expose
them to as many things as possible and
then see if there’s one thing that
connects with them you know because if
it does you don’t have to tell them to
do it whether it’s writing or painting
or drawing you know if they have that
passion you don’t have to tell them
they’re go off and do it because it’s
just fun you’d rather do that than
anything else so but as parents it’s our
job to just expose them so as many
things as possible and see which one
they gravitate to the most it’s
interesting because you you talk about
kids right originally we’re talking
about you now you’re talking about your
kids
and their passions do you do you kind of
feel that passion for them and say hey
let’s go play some basketball or
volleyball or let’s go swimming
yeah we expose them to all kinds that
maybe they play a lot of different
sports they do a lot of things
creatively you know in writing and
things like that and designing and you
just sit back and you just watch which
one they move to and then it’s our
responsibility as parents to try to set
them up for success as much as we
possibly can do you want them to play
basketball I wanted to find whatever it
is that they’re passionate about like
whatever they feel like their purpose is
and that’s what I want them to do do
they love basketball that’s um so I my
youngest one she does she wants to she
wants to play she wants me to teach how
to play this summer and you know our
hell this is really into valuable yeah
so and but we’ll see
you know passions tend to change so
you’re gonna get into volleyball now
well yeah yeah sister was a great
volleyball player so you have a teacher
and a family is there is there one
moment where you can say it defined your
passion for basketball is our story or
moment when you said yeah that was that
was it that was like when I felt really
passionate no it doesn’t it never leaves
never leaves like you know the game was
just a part of me so it never leaves
even now that I’m retired you know
everything I’ve learned from the game of
basketball I’ve carried it over into
life you know like basketballs helped me
be a better person a better friend of it
I’ll tell her well because there’s life
lessons that are within the game
like communications like unselfishness
attention to detail and empathy and
compassion like all those things are in
the game and as an athlete if we are
aware of those things it helps us become
better human human beings and you can
apply that toward your post post
basketball days retirement into your
business world surely true ventures sure
I mean you can play you know I was
applying that even while I was playing
just in life outside of the game and
even more so now you know I’m building a
business and all these things we don’t
kind of culture you when I have and all
those things are directly learn from the
game of basketball next up is the next
pillar be obsessive obsessive that’s I
think I think a lot of people equate
that with you you know Kobe is obsessive
in a lot of things we’ve been doing this
for what eight years now at Asia tour
you know I’ve been with you for a long
way at the one moment that stands out
out of we’ve done I don’t know how many
done we’ve done no one eight hundred
events the one time was 4:00 a.m. we
went out to practice at 4:00 a.m. and
that was your idea to do it but and then
you know all these Nike people are like
no no no no let’s not let’s not do that
and then you’re like let’s do it at 4:00
a.m. so you got security
you got brand marketing sports marketing
go no no no no no no that’s not good
you’re like let’s do it because that’s
your sustenance right I mean to me it
just makes complete sense not to us see
we all right what you usually I’m
sleeping at 4:00 a.m. you’re here
working out so talk about that okay so
if if your job is to try to be the best
basketball player you can be alright to
do that you have to practice you have to
train right you want to train as much as
you can as often as you can so if you
get up at 10:00 in the morning train at
11:00 12:00 say 12:00 train at 12:00
train for two hours 12:00 to 2:00 you
have to let your body recover so you
recovered whatever you get back out you
train start training again at 6:00 train
from 6:00 to 8:00 and now you go home
and shower you dinner you go to bed you
wake up and do it again right those are
two sessions right now imagine you wake
up at 3:00 you train at 4:00 you go four
to six come home breakfast relax so so
now you’re back at it again nine to
eleven relax and now it’s done you’re
back at it again to the four and have
you’re back at it again you know seven
to nine look how much more training I
have done by simply starting at four all
right and so now you do that and as the
years go on the separation that you have
with through competitors and your peers
just grows larger and larger and larger
and larger and larger and by year five
or six doesn’t matter what kind of work
they’re doing a summer they’re never
going to catch up because they’re five
years behind so it makes sense to get up
and start your day early because you can
get more working is that genetic or is
that something you you engrained and
trained yourself
no it was just like you that for me it
was it was just common sense like I can
I can if I start earlier I can train
more hours and I know the other guys
aren’t doing it because I know what
their training schedule is right so I
know if I do this consistently over time
this the gaps just gonna widen and why
no why no why no why and they won’t be
able to get that back so it’s me it was
just common sense I’m like thinking how
can I get an advantage oh start earlier
yeah let’s do that when did you start
doing that in high school high school we
start my first class on high school was
seven at 7:45 I should get to the gym
around 5:00 a.m. and I’d play before
school and then school with stars
playing with you at 5:00 a.m. my coach
my coach would show up and we do all
these basketball drills so just you and
your coach just me and my coach and
sometimes it would just be me and a
janitor who’s still there today and
and then I play at lunch I should get a
medal III hooked him up with a few
things but I played going lunch and then
practice after and go home to my
schoolwork and then watch a bunch of
game film and games on TV and study
study feeling was that the only thing
you’ve been obsessed about basketball
well until recently yeah so recently
yeah basketball dominated you know my
entire life more than 30 years what when
when I when I brought it up like what
are you is it genetic or you just
learned it I mean how did that idea even
come up because that’s obviously a
pillar of mama mentality the
obsessiveness this is just like you said
I’m gonna get up at 4:00 everybody’s get
up at 6:00 if everybody’s gonna get that
four I’m gonna get a min – right right
how do you how do you develop that or
where do you what do you learn that from
well I I think it’s just no it’s just a
matter of what’s important to you what’s
important to you for whatever reason you
know I felt like I didn’t feel good
about myself if I wasn’t doing
everything I could to be the best
version of myself if I felt like I left
anything on a table it would eat away at
me I wouldn’t be able to look myself in
the mirror right so the reason why I can
retire it now and be completely
comfortable about it because I know that
I’ve done everything I could to be the
best basketball player I could be and so
that’s where it comes from for me you
can’t leave any stone on time
but the important thing to understand is
you can’t you can’t shortchange yourself
like it you’re not cheating anybody but
yourself I mean you’re tired you’re
literally this far away from the line
why would you not go that extra to touch
the line all right so if I let him get
away with that right all of a sudden he
starts maybe you cheat something over
here right and I give his best over here
and I give his best over here and as
years go on he’s gonna be extremely he’s
not gonna reach his full potential
because he’s been taking these little
shortcuts that just add up add up add up
add up add up and you can’t let that
happen
our job as teachers as mentors as
inspirers
it’s our responsibility to hold
I’m accountable to those things the
funny part is we were we’re just talking
about this kid we’re in the back and
Kobe’s like I bet you that kid will
never ever miss the line again because
of that what no way so that that’s you
being obsessive but teaching
obsessiveness because that’s that’s what
you gotta be right do you you have to be
obsessive to get to that level and
everything you do details don’t waste
time do it right
perfection yeah I mean it’s this really
simple is like whatever you’re doing at
that moment is what you’re doing at that
moment
you know it’s like that’s where the
obsessiveness is having of attention to
detail for this action that you are
performing at the time you’re performing
it and if you can have that kind of
focus you can’t help but to have a
certain level of obsession or attention
to detail moving on to the the third
pillar is to be relentless that we know
you for you know we see you on TV being
relentless first quarter second quarter
third quarter fourth quarter attack
attack attack never letting your
teammates slack off attack attack attack
wait how do you get that talked about
what is what is the meaning of
relentlessness to you well is to never
to be unyielding never give an inch to
really like you’re always going after it
always going after always going after it
and if there’s a challenge that ensues
oh good I want to see how I stack up to
that so you go after you go after it and
it’s just so it’s fun it’s like you get
a chance to compete against opponents
and you get a chance to see where you
stack up against them saying I want to
see it maybe I’m not good enough today
with that that’s fine I’ll be good
enough the next time I see you though
you know and you get a chance to always
measure yourself and it’s it’s just fun
to do that so I guess that’s where
relentlessness comes from it’s is it
something that’s also learned or
ingrained or is it something you kind of
learn over time um because these things
that we talk about namah’ mentality you
know for you it’s second nature
it’s not for a lot of people right a lot
of it is is trained or it’s not
god-given no I I had to learn it as well
though cuz I am I had a year of playing
like when I play basketball in Italy I
was taller than everybody else and
faster like the age of eleven and I came
back to America to play basketball and
it was not the same thing because kids
were bigger stronger and so I went
through a summer of playing basketball
in America oh I didn’t score one point
it was one league I didn’t score one
point and it was devastating but I had
to know I’m not giving up it’s not going
to happen so you bounce back and you
keep playing you keep practicing you
keep practicing but I mean it wasn’t
handed to you didn’t score one point not
one I mean not even a free-throw and you
are zero you were held 1111 will you
playing against twenty five-year-olds
was playing against eleven that’s hard
to believe
Wow I know I know but I was playing
against 11 year olds and I didn’t score
1 point and then what was that did that
uh did it hurt you or you were you well
yeah it was very embarrassing because
you know my father was a Philadelphia
basketball legend my uncle was a
Philadelphia basketball legend and now
here I am this kid like these really big
knee pads and I’m walking around and I
can’t score anything so host like really
embarrassing that drove you of course it
did of course it did I vowed to be much
much better so you live for those
moments where you’re embarrassed when
you’re down people kick you don’t let
you score those are the moments that
drive you well I mean those are the
moments that occur right so whatever
moments occur good bad or indifferent
I can use those moments to propel me
forward use those as fuel to help me be
a better player is there a moment in
your NBA career where you felt like you
didn’t hit that mark and that was a huge
transition for you yeah I always felt
like I missed marks in the league what
were some of the down moments for you in
basketball well losing to the Celtics in
the financial 2008 it was tough that
hurt me – yeah it was brutal and and ah
yeah at night in a hotel room after we
lost was thinking to myself I may never
win in the
championship like I might have just like
this is it it’s too hard to get back
here maybe it’s not in the cards to win
another one and so I go through that
night of being mad and then the next
morning I wake up and I start thinking
no I gotta fix this so where did it go
wrong you know why did we lose we
weren’t tough enough ok weren’t tough
enough whose responsibility is that to
make the team tough it’s mine so now I
have to start figuring out how I’m gonna
lead this team differently so then make
sure that when we get to the finals the
next time we were tough and ready for
this challenge and that’s that’s how you
bounce back from those moments
that’s 2008 2008 2008 against the
Celtics and I mean all of Laker nation
was hurt because especially because it
was against the Celtics right it was
because also that was there that was
there like 17th right yeah for their for
their organization and Lakers yeah and
then you bounce back the next year
against Orlando Orlando and got our
revenge against the Celtics in 2000 did
beating the Celtics feel better than
beating Orlando oh yeah oh yeah yes yeah
oh yeah man I grew up such a Lakers fan
and so like the Lakers and Celtics Ryan
just hate on everything yeah but you
hate them we can’t there’s no way I can
be on a team when a Lakers team that
loses to the Celtics twice No you know
it’s amazing because in in Asia me being
here in Asia too a lot of a lot of fans
are fans of a player and they they love
that player and subsequently late they
loved that team that their player plays
for but growing up in the States if you
grew up in Philly you are a Sixers fan
right and then if you grew up in LA you
are a Lakers fan you are also a Dodgers
fan and at the time you are Rammstein
you you affiliated with your city and
then the city that you hate it was your
arch enemy so you if you’re a Laker fan
you just hate the Celtics and you hate
every team yeah every team that that
loses them you root for every team
against itself that no question yeah
the enemy of my enemy is my friend you
just want to see them do bad yeah just
do bad if you if you are a Dodger fan
you just want to see the Giants lives
right so all right it’s not necessarily
good karma but yeah it’s not but when
you lost to the Celtics and you beat him
again that moment that that’s relentless
because you come come back coming back
coming back and you you had to come back
and beat their court can’t give up and
then reserve is it was that up was that
a big moment for you
beating beating the Celtics it was huge
you know because you know we’ve seen
I’ve seen us as a team grow so much from
2008 you know how Lamar you know all our
guys like how much we have grown since
the last time we faced this team and I
couldn’t be any more proud of them you
know it wasn’t even about me it was
about sitting back and watching us as a
group we just accomplished this amazing
thing and now we can all enjoy it
together so moving on to the next pillar
is to be resilient I remember this time
last year you came and we did a premiere
for a movie you did music and a big big
part of that movie was talking about
your injuring coming back to be
resilient take us back to that day
against Phoenix right when you injured
your Achilles there’s golden stage it
was it was it was hard man because the
Achilles injury is the worst injury for
an athlete it’s like the works just like
the the kiss of death and when I
ruptured my Achilles eye I knew what
happened I knew the severity of the
injury and I didn’t know if I was gonna
come back from it yeah in the locker
room you were crying yeah man like this
is it like my career could be over right
now
so how do you get back from that because
you know when you talk about injuries
you know people sprained their ankles
dislocate your fingers but Achilles yeah
you know people don’t come back from
that athletes don’t come back from that
to the level they were before yeah how
is too how do you get that resilience
how do you fight that well what I did is
you know I went home and I was just
really angry and
angry I was angry I was Madam’s and I
worked so hard for us to get to the
playoffs and to have a chance to another
championship and then this happened so I
had a lot of anger and then from the
anger then I was sad and then you start
feeling bad for yourself and then you
say alright okay I’m done being a baby
okay what am I gonna do now because I
can’t sit here and give up that’s not an
option so now what how long was the
cycle from this anger one night one
night one night one night who’s you you
started writing in the middle right you
wrote that uh you you you really that
middle is okay what are you gonna do so
yeah there’s one night but then you know
then you start it’s a process you look
at process and what am I gonna do what
can I control surgery will do the
surgery come out of the surgery recover
from their physical therapy okay
physical therapy piece by piece by piece
by piece by piece start running back on
a court it’s our broke things down into
sections and said okay I’m gonna focus
on resting right now this is it and
we’ll focus on moving my toes and then
walking and then so you look at every
challenge at every step and that’s how
you’re able to be resilient and come
back from these things because you know
for your field in in sports injuries
often happen right and to come back but
you know for for most everyday people
it’s it’s something that they can’t
fathom because they don’t they don’t
have that type of result resistance that
they have to face right so how do they
how do they come back from it because
sometimes people fail in their fields
and their jobs or at school young kids
you know you don’t have a good test
score you don’t make the basketball team
or you know they have these
disappointments how do they what is your
advice to young kids to you know to to
face the faceless adversity how do you
persevere well like if you because you
you have that chemical makeup to fight
through it
yeah not all kids do but but you you
every kid every person has the ability
to put one foot in front of the other
one step at a time right so like if
you’re saying okay I’m going to climb
Mount
at the bottom of the mountain you look
up you’re going I’m not gonna climb
Mount Everest right but if you break it
down into sections you just one foot in
front of the other one step at a time
next thing you know you’re at the top of
the mountain so the the map the plan is
to set short-term goals yeah if you get
there eight to be uh coming back from my
Achilles I came back from the Achilles
and I was fine into the next year I
fractured my knee right so here we go
again
come back from that next year tear my
shoulder here we go again right but if I
looked at those things in totality to be
depressing but if I look at it as just
the facts this is this is it happened
can’t do anything about it it happened
now what are you gonna do one step at a
time
Achilles knee shoulder any step of the
way you said screw it
forget it done no more no never no well
no but why right because you know as
time goes on and sitting there seventy
eighty years old and I’m gonna be
wondering if I could have come back from
this injury mm-hmm I don’t want to
wonder I want to find out we got to get
to destiny I want to see man we got into
that game yeah like the critics are out
there saying he’s done he’ll never come
back well maybe you’re right
maybe you’re not but let’s find out we
got to get that we gotta get there last
one to be fearless you know that’s
that’s something that uh I think every
young adult if young kids they face
their fears right what is what does that
mean to be to be fearless why is that
such an important part of the Mambo
mentality well max I think the greatest
fear that we face is ourselves actually
you know I think it’s uh it’s not
anything that’s external or anything
that’s superficial I think the greatest
fear you face is yourself because you
know we all have dreams and it’s very
scary sometimes to accept the dream that
you have and it’s scarier still to say
okay I want that it’s scary because
you’re afraid that if you put your heart
and soul into it
and you fail then how are you gonna feel
about yourself
right so being fearless means putting
yourself out there and going for it
no matter what go for it not for anybody
else but for yourself when you when you
when you got to the league you’re 18 did
you have any fears before getting there
or when you got there right away yeah I
mean I had fears that everybody was
gonna be right I made a poor choice poor
decision jump from I was too you know
wasn’t going to mount anything so that
was always in the back of my mind for
sure and then so out of these five
pillars which one do you think comes
first be passionate be fearless
relentless resilient or were they just
come together I’ll know I this funny
thing is like we created these separate
pillars but the reality is it’s all one
thing you know because it all comes from
within all comes from within us we all
experience these things at different
stages in different points at different
times the key I feel is just to be aware
of those moments as they occur right
you’re aware of a certain fear or a
certain obstacle or challenge right
you’re just aware of those things and
then from there you can navigate through
them but I look at more I look at them
all as one one connecting thing because
I think being fearless this last one
sticks out in my mind a lot because you
know being in Asia Asian kids a lot of
times they’re a little bit more boxed in
in in thought and mentality as opposed
to Western kids Western kids the lot of
the family the environment you know ever
since a young age in school it’s
preaching independence speak your
thoughts be creative too independent you
know a lot of that you know it’s in it’s
in it’s it’s also reiterated by teachers
principals mothers and fathers and aunts
and uncles and coaches is to to bring
name to yourself and to be independent
to be out there and go on your own but
in in Eastern in Asia a lot of the
cultures whether it’s Chinese Japanese
Korean it’s you know don’t go out there
and do crazy things don’t go out of your
comfort zone
bring make your family proud
you know don’t don’t bring other people
attention just do your thing do it well
but don’t bring attention you know it’s
and I think a lot of kids are fearful of
going out of this box
right is there a vice for these kids
because a lot of times it’s a cultural
difference true right you know how did
how do they put themselves out there
wedding listen it’s very simple you have
to dance beautifully in the box that
you’re comfortable dancing in right so
like everybody’s box is different my box
was to be extremely ambitious within the
sport of basketball your box it’s
different than mine right every kid here
has their own box but doesn’t mean that
your box isn’t as beautiful as mine
right everybody has their own is your
job to try to perfect it and make it as
beautiful of a canvas as you can make it
and if you have done that then you have
lived the successful life you have lived
with Mambo mentality so it doesn’t mean
you have to go out here and do all of
these crazy things I’ll have to be like
this person or that person no what are
you comfortable being what it is that
wit what is it that you want to do with
your life and once you have that then
you’re trying to live it to the best of
your abilities so you know growing up in
Italy and then moving on to Philadelphia
and then to LA you know obviously you
talk about this box right so is that box
constantly changing are you trying to
get out of your comfort zone even when
you were you know first for the MBA and
then tenth year in the NBA and then even
this year does that box that this
metaphorical box you talked about does
that change no I never tried I never
looked at it as like I’m just gonna you
know try something completely crazy or
like just just go out on my box with a
thing I just looked at it as I want to
be one of the best basketball players
who have ever played that’s the end goal
okay how do I get there how do I get
there and every decision I made in my
life was centered around the process of
helping me eventually get there you know
I’m saying so I had that purpose and
once I had that purpose every decision
that I made was centered around that
purpose you think you got there looking
back upon it now two decades of the NBA
you know high school
it’ll lead to high school in
Philadelphia to the MBA you spent your
whole career with one organization to me
is that your biggest accomplishment to
be with one team thank you you look back
upon it now when you had your goals as a
kid you’re five years old you wanted to
be in the NBA and then when you’re at
Lower Merion in Philadelphia and those
dreams started to become a I’m gonna get
there right and then you’re in the NBA
you set goals for yourself you talked
about all time when you’re young in the
NBA you set personal achievement goals
I’m gonna win a game I’m gonna win a
championship
I’m gonna win the MVP I’m gonna win this
I’m gonna win that and then later on you
changed because you said I’m just gonna
get better
and when I if I’m gonna get a better
left hand I’m gonna have a better
three-point I’m gonna have a better free
throw those other personal achievements
come naturally hmm now you’re done
mm-hmm take your final game 60 points
you dropped it on Utah Mamba out right
yeah you look back up on it now where do
you see yourself did you did you do
everything you wanted to do did you
become the best best basa player you can
ever become if you because the best it’s
so it’s weird like I did my vision of
what my goal is changed drastically as I
got older it’s like as a kid I said I
want to be the best ever right and now
you go through your life and everything
you do is trying to be the best I would
be the best ever be the best ever and as
you get older you start understanding
that those things are very superficial
things and everybody has a different
opinion about it no matter what you do I
can win 20 championships there’s always
an opinion on who’s the best everybody
has different opinions and so I started
really kind of understanding maybe
that’s not the important thing maybe the
important thing is to you know how do we
as a team grow how do I help my
teammates be better so that was the
first change for me and then as I got
older still it became more about how are
you inspiring others right to find
themselves that is the ultimate
championship so won five championships
that’s great another team won a
championship this year team’s gonna win
a championship next year those things
come and go but what stays is how do you
use your passion and use that to inspire
somebody else to create their passion
and then how can they pass that on to
the next person that is true success so
my goals have changed drastically from
the time I was six years old to the time
I was 17 s the time I was 25 and now
sitting here at 37 so now you left the
game of basketball we’re here in
Shanghai we’re gonna end our talk today
because we’ve gone a little bit past our
limit but I think everybody is very
happy to be here and I think they
learned a lot about the memoy Mamba
mentality right what’s what’s next you
know for you well it’s it’s always
teaching the game I mean teaching the
game through various ways you know it’s
we do camps and clinics we do those
things and but also through storytelling
right how can you how can you share
stories with the rest of the world that
challenges them to look internally and
and to learn things like process and
learn how to navigate the sense of self
and all these things how can you infuse
that into entertainment in a way that
pushes our culture and our society
forward now those are the questions that
I’m really really intrigued by and
that’s what we’ll focus on ladies and
gentlemen one of the greatest of all
time Kobe Bryant thank you thanks so much
to me the mentality is a really simple
one in an assistant the confidence comes
from preparation you know so when the
game’s on the line
I’m not asking myself to do something
that I haven’t done thousands of times
before right so when I prepare I know
what I’m capable of doing I know what
I’m comfortable doing and I know what
I’m not comfortable doing right and so
in those moments if it looks like I’m
ice cold or not nervous it’s because
I’ve done it thousands of times before
so it’s one more time so that leads me
to talk about a lot of this Kobe tour
this year in Asia is we we reiterate the
Mamba mentality you know can you talk a
little bit about what the Mamba
mentality is because that’s something
that’s been developing over I don’t say
20 years it’s been developing for 35
years since you were a little kid that
Mamba mentality because you didn’t start
working when you got the damn yeah you
started working when you are at Lower
Merion when you were in Italy when you
were five when you’re playing nerf nerf
basketball
so talking I’ll talk about the
development of the Mamba mentality the
pillars the five pillars of this Mamba
mentality and then we’ll kind of break
it down well I mean I overall you know
the idea is a very simple one and you
know the Mamba mentality simply means
trying to be the best version of
yourself that’s what the mentality means
it means every day you’re trying to
become better it’s a constant quest it’s
an infinite quest so starting at the age
of two when I first started playing the
game and on and on and on I always asked
questions I always tried to get better
every single day learn more you’re
asking questions that – oh dude I was
maybe surprised like some people like my
kids at – could do a lot of things
mm-hmm I – I could dribble the
basketball I could shoot a basketball on
the nerf hoop
the house and I would go to practice
with my father I would observe my father
I’d sit and watch games with him see at
first coach yeah I guess you could say
that
you know a lot of things I learned by
being just being around the game right
so by the age of six I was already
strategizing versus other six-year-olds
you know the age of six I figured out
six year olds couldn’t dribble with
their left hand so I said okay a lotta a
lot of 12 year olds can’t dribble with
their well yeah would imagine six so
like I was playing these six year old
kids I would make them dribble with
their left because I knew they couldn’t
so they dribble off their foot I’d pick
it up lay it up do it again drove off
foot pick it up laid up says say shoes
oh it had 63 points I remember mine say
you’re sick so your six-year-old self
could beat your 38 year old selfies you
only scored 60 in the last game yeah no
but I could do it with my left oh so
that’s a problem but um but yeah Mason I
just constantly looked for things to
learn from and very observant when you
when you talk about this love when does
that develop before you did you like it
when you were five or is it something
that kind of gradually reached – I was
born and I was born to play basketball
you know what I mean and I played a lot
of different sports but nothing brought
me the sense of peace and escape you
know that the game of basketball do is
it an escape when you get on the court
is that your Zen time your your your
solitude time yeah even though it’s a
team working yeah when I need that
escape it’s there for me right when I
need a friend it’s there for me you know
what I need to vent and don’t donkey the
mama come this there you know so yeah
the game is absolutely everything for
you mean when you when we talk about
trying to get kids to be passionate I
don’t think every kid I don’t think your
situation is the norm not every kid is
knows they’re passionate two or five
right how do kids find that passion that
because you know you you embraced it
right away any experience we try to put
them in different things try to expose
them to as many things as possible and
then see if there’s one thing that
connects with them you know because if
it does you don’t have to tell them to
do it whether it’s writing or painting
or drawing you know if they have that
passion you don’t have to tell them
they’re go off and do it because it’s
just fun you’d rather do that than
anything else so but as parents it’s our
job to just expose them so as many
things as possible and see which one
they gravitate to the most it’s
interesting because you you talk about
kids right originally we’re talking
about you now you’re talking about your
kids
and their passions do you do you kind of
feel that passion for them and say hey
let’s go play some basketball or
volleyball or let’s go swimming
yeah we expose them to all kinds that
maybe they play a lot of different
sports they do a lot of things
creatively you know in writing and
things like that and designing and you
just sit back and you just watch which
one they move to and then it’s our
responsibility as parents to try to set
them up for success as much as we
possibly can do you want them to play
basketball I wanted to find whatever it
is that they’re passionate about like
whatever they feel like their purpose is
and that’s what I want them to do do
they love basketball that’s um so I my
youngest one she does she wants to she
wants to play she wants me to teach how
to play this summer and you know our
hell this is really into valuable yeah
so and but we’ll see
you know passions tend to change so
you’re gonna get into volleyball now
well yeah yeah sister was a great
volleyball player so you have a teacher
and a family is there is there one
moment where you can say it defined your
passion for basketball is our story or
moment when you said yeah that was that
was it that was like when I felt really
passionate no it doesn’t it never leaves
never leaves like you know the game was
just a part of me so it never leaves
even now that I’m retired you know
everything I’ve learned from the game of
basketball I’ve carried it over into
life you know like basketballs helped me
be a better person a better friend of it
I’ll tell her well because there’s life
lessons that are within the game
like communications like unselfishness
attention to detail and empathy and
compassion like all those things are in
the game and as an athlete if we are
aware of those things it helps us become
better human human beings and you can
apply that toward your post post
basketball days retirement into your
business world surely true ventures sure
I mean you can play you know I was
applying that even while I was playing
just in life outside of the game and
even more so now you know I’m building a
business and all these things we don’t
kind of culture you when I have and all
those things are directly learn from the
game of basketball next up is the next
pillar be obsessive obsessive that’s I
think I think a lot of people equate
that with you you know Kobe is obsessive
in a lot of things we’ve been doing this
for what eight years now at Asia tour
you know I’ve been with you for a long
way at the one moment that stands out
out of we’ve done I don’t know how many
done we’ve done no one eight hundred
events the one time was 4:00 a.m. we
went out to practice at 4:00 a.m. and
that was your idea to do it but and then
you know all these Nike people are like
no no no no let’s not let’s not do that
and then you’re like let’s do it at 4:00
a.m. so you got security
you got brand marketing sports marketing
go no no no no no no that’s not good
you’re like let’s do it because that’s
your sustenance right I mean to me it
just makes complete sense not to us see
we all right what you usually I’m
sleeping at 4:00 a.m. you’re here
working out so talk about that okay so
if if your job is to try to be the best
basketball player you can be alright to
do that you have to practice you have to
train right you want to train as much as
you can as often as you can so if you
get up at 10:00 in the morning train at
11:00 12:00 say 12:00 train at 12:00
train for two hours 12:00 to 2:00 you
have to let your body recover so you
recovered whatever you get back out you
train start training again at 6:00 train
from 6:00 to 8:00 and now you go home
and shower you dinner you go to bed you
wake up and do it again right those are
two sessions right now imagine you wake
up at 3:00 you train at 4:00 you go four
to six come home breakfast relax so so
now you’re back at it again nine to
eleven relax and now it’s done you’re
back at it again to the four and have
you’re back at it again you know seven
to nine look how much more training I
have done by simply starting at four all
right and so now you do that and as the
years go on the separation that you have
with through competitors and your peers
just grows larger and larger and larger
and larger and larger and by year five
or six doesn’t matter what kind of work
they’re doing a summer they’re never
going to catch up because they’re five
years behind so it makes sense to get up
and start your day early because you can
get more working is that genetic or is
that something you you engrained and
trained yourself
no it was just like you that for me it
was it was just common sense like I can
I can if I start earlier I can train
more hours and I know the other guys
aren’t doing it because I know what
their training schedule is right so I
know if I do this consistently over time
this the gaps just gonna widen and why
no why no why no why and they won’t be
able to get that back so it’s me it was
just common sense I’m like thinking how
can I get an advantage oh start earlier
yeah let’s do that when did you start
doing that in high school high school we
start my first class on high school was
seven at 7:45 I should get to the gym
around 5:00 a.m. and I’d play before
school and then school with stars
playing with you at 5:00 a.m. my coach
my coach would show up and we do all
these basketball drills so just you and
your coach just me and my coach and
sometimes it would just be me and a
janitor who’s still there today and
and then I play at lunch I should get a
medal III hooked him up with a few
things but I played going lunch and then
practice after and go home to my
schoolwork and then watch a bunch of
game film and games on TV and study
study feeling was that the only thing
you’ve been obsessed about basketball
well until recently yeah so recently
yeah basketball dominated you know my
entire life more than 30 years what when
when I when I brought it up like what
are you is it genetic or you just
learned it I mean how did that idea even
come up because that’s obviously a
pillar of mama mentality the
obsessiveness this is just like you said
I’m gonna get up at 4:00 everybody’s get
up at 6:00 if everybody’s gonna get that
four I’m gonna get a min – right right
how do you how do you develop that or
where do you what do you learn that from
well I I think it’s just no it’s just a
matter of what’s important to you what’s
important to you for whatever reason you
know I felt like I didn’t feel good
about myself if I wasn’t doing
everything I could to be the best
version of myself if I felt like I left
anything on a table it would eat away at
me I wouldn’t be able to look myself in
the mirror right so the reason why I can
retire it now and be completely
comfortable about it because I know that
I’ve done everything I could to be the
best basketball player I could be and so
that’s where it comes from for me you
can’t leave any stone on time
but the important thing to understand is
you can’t you can’t shortchange yourself
like it you’re not cheating anybody but
yourself I mean you’re tired you’re
literally this far away from the line
why would you not go that extra to touch
the line all right so if I let him get
away with that right all of a sudden he
starts maybe you cheat something over
here right and I give his best over here
and I give his best over here and as
years go on he’s gonna be extremely he’s
not gonna reach his full potential
because he’s been taking these little
shortcuts that just add up add up add up
add up add up and you can’t let that
happen
our job as teachers as mentors as
inspirers
it’s our responsibility to hold
I’m accountable to those things the
funny part is we were we’re just talking
about this kid we’re in the back and
Kobe’s like I bet you that kid will
never ever miss the line again because
of that what no way so that that’s you
being obsessive but teaching
obsessiveness because that’s that’s what
you gotta be right do you you have to be
obsessive to get to that level and
everything you do details don’t waste
time do it right
perfection yeah I mean it’s this really
simple is like whatever you’re doing at
that moment is what you’re doing at that
moment
you know it’s like that’s where the
obsessiveness is having of attention to
detail for this action that you are
performing at the time you’re performing
it and if you can have that kind of
focus you can’t help but to have a
certain level of obsession or attention
to detail moving on to the the third
pillar is to be relentless that we know
you for you know we see you on TV being
relentless first quarter second quarter
third quarter fourth quarter attack
attack attack never letting your
teammates slack off attack attack attack
wait how do you get that talked about
what is what is the meaning of
relentlessness to you well is to never
to be unyielding never give an inch to
really like you’re always going after it
always going after always going after it
and if there’s a challenge that ensues
oh good I want to see how I stack up to
that so you go after you go after it and
it’s just so it’s fun it’s like you get
a chance to compete against opponents
and you get a chance to see where you
stack up against them saying I want to
see it maybe I’m not good enough today
with that that’s fine I’ll be good
enough the next time I see you though
you know and you get a chance to always
measure yourself and it’s it’s just fun
to do that so I guess that’s where
relentlessness comes from it’s is it
something that’s also learned or
ingrained or is it something you kind of
learn over time um because these things
that we talk about namah’ mentality you
know for you it’s second nature
it’s not for a lot of people right a lot
of it is is trained or it’s not
god-given no I I had to learn it as well
though cuz I am I had a year of playing
like when I play basketball in Italy I
was taller than everybody else and
faster like the age of eleven and I came
back to America to play basketball and
it was not the same thing because kids
were bigger stronger and so I went
through a summer of playing basketball
in America oh I didn’t score one point
it was one league I didn’t score one
point and it was devastating but I had
to know I’m not giving up it’s not going
to happen so you bounce back and you
keep playing you keep practicing you
keep practicing but I mean it wasn’t
handed to you didn’t score one point not
one I mean not even a free-throw and you
are zero you were held 1111 will you
playing against twenty five-year-olds
was playing against eleven that’s hard
to believe
Wow I know I know but I was playing
against 11 year olds and I didn’t score
1 point and then what was that did that
uh did it hurt you or you were you well
yeah it was very embarrassing because
you know my father was a Philadelphia
basketball legend my uncle was a
Philadelphia basketball legend and now
here I am this kid like these really big
knee pads and I’m walking around and I
can’t score anything so host like really
embarrassing that drove you of course it
did of course it did I vowed to be much
much better so you live for those
moments where you’re embarrassed when
you’re down people kick you don’t let
you score those are the moments that
drive you well I mean those are the
moments that occur right so whatever
moments occur good bad or indifferent
I can use those moments to propel me
forward use those as fuel to help me be
a better player is there a moment in
your NBA career where you felt like you
didn’t hit that mark and that was a huge
transition for you yeah I always felt
like I missed marks in the league what
were some of the down moments for you in
basketball well losing to the Celtics in
the financial 2008 it was tough that
hurt me – yeah it was brutal and and ah
yeah at night in a hotel room after we
lost was thinking to myself I may never
win in the
championship like I might have just like
this is it it’s too hard to get back
here maybe it’s not in the cards to win
another one and so I go through that
night of being mad and then the next
morning I wake up and I start thinking
no I gotta fix this so where did it go
wrong you know why did we lose we
weren’t tough enough ok weren’t tough
enough whose responsibility is that to
make the team tough it’s mine so now I
have to start figuring out how I’m gonna
lead this team differently so then make
sure that when we get to the finals the
next time we were tough and ready for
this challenge and that’s that’s how you
bounce back from those moments
that’s 2008 2008 2008 against the
Celtics and I mean all of Laker nation
was hurt because especially because it
was against the Celtics right it was
because also that was there that was
there like 17th right yeah for their for
their organization and Lakers yeah and
then you bounce back the next year
against Orlando Orlando and got our
revenge against the Celtics in 2000 did
beating the Celtics feel better than
beating Orlando oh yeah oh yeah yes yeah
oh yeah man I grew up such a Lakers fan
and so like the Lakers and Celtics Ryan
just hate on everything yeah but you
hate them we can’t there’s no way I can
be on a team when a Lakers team that
loses to the Celtics twice No you know
it’s amazing because in in Asia me being
here in Asia too a lot of a lot of fans
are fans of a player and they they love
that player and subsequently late they
loved that team that their player plays
for but growing up in the States if you
grew up in Philly you are a Sixers fan
right and then if you grew up in LA you
are a Lakers fan you are also a Dodgers
fan and at the time you are Rammstein
you you affiliated with your city and
then the city that you hate it was your
arch enemy so you if you’re a Laker fan
you just hate the Celtics and you hate
every team yeah every team that that
loses them you root for every team
against itself that no question yeah
the enemy of my enemy is my friend you
just want to see them do bad yeah just
do bad if you if you are a Dodger fan
you just want to see the Giants lives
right so all right it’s not necessarily
good karma but yeah it’s not but when
you lost to the Celtics and you beat him
again that moment that that’s relentless
because you come come back coming back
coming back and you you had to come back
and beat their court can’t give up and
then reserve is it was that up was that
a big moment for you
beating beating the Celtics it was huge
you know because you know we’ve seen
I’ve seen us as a team grow so much from
2008 you know how Lamar you know all our
guys like how much we have grown since
the last time we faced this team and I
couldn’t be any more proud of them you
know it wasn’t even about me it was
about sitting back and watching us as a
group we just accomplished this amazing
thing and now we can all enjoy it
together so moving on to the next pillar
is to be resilient I remember this time
last year you came and we did a premiere
for a movie you did music and a big big
part of that movie was talking about
your injuring coming back to be
resilient take us back to that day
against Phoenix right when you injured
your Achilles there’s golden stage it
was it was it was hard man because the
Achilles injury is the worst injury for
an athlete it’s like the works just like
the the kiss of death and when I
ruptured my Achilles eye I knew what
happened I knew the severity of the
injury and I didn’t know if I was gonna
come back from it yeah in the locker
room you were crying yeah man like this
is it like my career could be over right
now
so how do you get back from that because
you know when you talk about injuries
you know people sprained their ankles
dislocate your fingers but Achilles yeah
you know people don’t come back from
that athletes don’t come back from that
to the level they were before yeah how
is too how do you get that resilience
how do you fight that well what I did is
you know I went home and I was just
really angry and
angry I was angry I was Madam’s and I
worked so hard for us to get to the
playoffs and to have a chance to another
championship and then this happened so I
had a lot of anger and then from the
anger then I was sad and then you start
feeling bad for yourself and then you
say alright okay I’m done being a baby
okay what am I gonna do now because I
can’t sit here and give up that’s not an
option so now what how long was the
cycle from this anger one night one
night one night one night who’s you you
started writing in the middle right you
wrote that uh you you you really that
middle is okay what are you gonna do so
yeah there’s one night but then you know
then you start it’s a process you look
at process and what am I gonna do what
can I control surgery will do the
surgery come out of the surgery recover
from their physical therapy okay
physical therapy piece by piece by piece
by piece by piece start running back on
a court it’s our broke things down into
sections and said okay I’m gonna focus
on resting right now this is it and
we’ll focus on moving my toes and then
walking and then so you look at every
challenge at every step and that’s how
you’re able to be resilient and come
back from these things because you know
for your field in in sports injuries
often happen right and to come back but
you know for for most everyday people
it’s it’s something that they can’t
fathom because they don’t they don’t
have that type of result resistance that
they have to face right so how do they
how do they come back from it because
sometimes people fail in their fields
and their jobs or at school young kids
you know you don’t have a good test
score you don’t make the basketball team
or you know they have these
disappointments how do they what is your
advice to young kids to you know to to
face the faceless adversity how do you
persevere well like if you because you
you have that chemical makeup to fight
through it
yeah not all kids do but but you you
every kid every person has the ability
to put one foot in front of the other
one step at a time right so like if
you’re saying okay I’m going to climb
Mount
at the bottom of the mountain you look
up you’re going I’m not gonna climb
Mount Everest right but if you break it
down into sections you just one foot in
front of the other one step at a time
next thing you know you’re at the top of
the mountain so the the map the plan is
to set short-term goals yeah if you get
there eight to be uh coming back from my
Achilles I came back from the Achilles
and I was fine into the next year I
fractured my knee right so here we go
again
come back from that next year tear my
shoulder here we go again right but if I
looked at those things in totality to be
depressing but if I look at it as just
the facts this is this is it happened
can’t do anything about it it happened
now what are you gonna do one step at a
time
Achilles knee shoulder any step of the
way you said screw it
forget it done no more no never no well
no but why right because you know as
time goes on and sitting there seventy
eighty years old and I’m gonna be
wondering if I could have come back from
this injury mm-hmm I don’t want to
wonder I want to find out we got to get
to destiny I want to see man we got into
that game yeah like the critics are out
there saying he’s done he’ll never come
back well maybe you’re right
maybe you’re not but let’s find out we
got to get that we gotta get there last
one to be fearless you know that’s
that’s something that uh I think every
young adult if young kids they face
their fears right what is what does that
mean to be to be fearless why is that
such an important part of the Mambo
mentality well max I think the greatest
fear that we face is ourselves actually
you know I think it’s uh it’s not
anything that’s external or anything
that’s superficial I think the greatest
fear you face is yourself because you
know we all have dreams and it’s very
scary sometimes to accept the dream that
you have and it’s scarier still to say
okay I want that it’s scary because
you’re afraid that if you put your heart
and soul into it
and you fail then how are you gonna feel
about yourself
right so being fearless means putting
yourself out there and going for it
no matter what go for it not for anybody
else but for yourself when you when you
when you got to the league you’re 18 did
you have any fears before getting there
or when you got there right away yeah I
mean I had fears that everybody was
gonna be right I made a poor choice poor
decision jump from I was too you know
wasn’t going to mount anything so that
was always in the back of my mind for
sure and then so out of these five
pillars which one do you think comes
first be passionate be fearless
relentless resilient or were they just
come together I’ll know I this funny
thing is like we created these separate
pillars but the reality is it’s all one
thing you know because it all comes from
within all comes from within us we all
experience these things at different
stages in different points at different
times the key I feel is just to be aware
of those moments as they occur right
you’re aware of a certain fear or a
certain obstacle or challenge right
you’re just aware of those things and
then from there you can navigate through
them but I look at more I look at them
all as one one connecting thing because
I think being fearless this last one
sticks out in my mind a lot because you
know being in Asia Asian kids a lot of
times they’re a little bit more boxed in
in in thought and mentality as opposed
to Western kids Western kids the lot of
the family the environment you know ever
since a young age in school it’s
preaching independence speak your
thoughts be creative too independent you
know a lot of that you know it’s in it’s
in it’s it’s also reiterated by teachers
principals mothers and fathers and aunts
and uncles and coaches is to to bring
name to yourself and to be independent
to be out there and go on your own but
in in Eastern in Asia a lot of the
cultures whether it’s Chinese Japanese
Korean it’s you know don’t go out there
and do crazy things don’t go out of your
comfort zone
bring make your family proud
you know don’t don’t bring other people
attention just do your thing do it well
but don’t bring attention you know it’s
and I think a lot of kids are fearful of
going out of this box
right is there a vice for these kids
because a lot of times it’s a cultural
difference true right you know how did
how do they put themselves out there
wedding listen it’s very simple you have
to dance beautifully in the box that
you’re comfortable dancing in right so
like everybody’s box is different my box
was to be extremely ambitious within the
sport of basketball your box it’s
different than mine right every kid here
has their own box but doesn’t mean that
your box isn’t as beautiful as mine
right everybody has their own is your
job to try to perfect it and make it as
beautiful of a canvas as you can make it
and if you have done that then you have
lived the successful life you have lived
with Mambo mentality so it doesn’t mean
you have to go out here and do all of
these crazy things I’ll have to be like
this person or that person no what are
you comfortable being what it is that
wit what is it that you want to do with
your life and once you have that then
you’re trying to live it to the best of
your abilities so you know growing up in
Italy and then moving on to Philadelphia
and then to LA you know obviously you
talk about this box right so is that box
constantly changing are you trying to
get out of your comfort zone even when
you were you know first for the MBA and
then tenth year in the NBA and then even
this year does that box that this
metaphorical box you talked about does
that change no I never tried I never
looked at it as like I’m just gonna you
know try something completely crazy or
like just just go out on my box with a
thing I just looked at it as I want to
be one of the best basketball players
who have ever played that’s the end goal
okay how do I get there how do I get
there and every decision I made in my
life was centered around the process of
helping me eventually get there you know
I’m saying so I had that purpose and
once I had that purpose every decision
that I made was centered around that
purpose you think you got there looking
back upon it now two decades of the NBA
you know high school
it’ll lead to high school in
Philadelphia to the MBA you spent your
whole career with one organization to me
is that your biggest accomplishment to
be with one team thank you you look back
upon it now when you had your goals as a
kid you’re five years old you wanted to
be in the NBA and then when you’re at
Lower Merion in Philadelphia and those
dreams started to become a I’m gonna get
there right and then you’re in the NBA
you set goals for yourself you talked
about all time when you’re young in the
NBA you set personal achievement goals
I’m gonna win a game I’m gonna win a
championship
I’m gonna win the MVP I’m gonna win this
I’m gonna win that and then later on you
changed because you said I’m just gonna
get better
and when I if I’m gonna get a better
left hand I’m gonna have a better
three-point I’m gonna have a better free
throw those other personal achievements
come naturally hmm now you’re done
mm-hmm take your final game 60 points
you dropped it on Utah Mamba out right
yeah you look back up on it now where do
you see yourself did you did you do
everything you wanted to do did you
become the best best basa player you can
ever become if you because the best it’s
so it’s weird like I did my vision of
what my goal is changed drastically as I
got older it’s like as a kid I said I
want to be the best ever right and now
you go through your life and everything
you do is trying to be the best I would
be the best ever be the best ever and as
you get older you start understanding
that those things are very superficial
things and everybody has a different
opinion about it no matter what you do I
can win 20 championships there’s always
an opinion on who’s the best everybody
has different opinions and so I started
really kind of understanding maybe
that’s not the important thing maybe the
important thing is to you know how do we
as a team grow how do I help my
teammates be better so that was the
first change for me and then as I got
older still it became more about how are
you inspiring others right to find
themselves that is the ultimate
championship so won five championships
that’s great another team won a
championship this year team’s gonna win
a championship next year those things
come and go but what stays is how do you
use your passion and use that to inspire
somebody else to create their passion
and then how can they pass that on to
the next person that is true success so
my goals have changed drastically from
the time I was six years old to the time
I was 17 s the time I was 25 and now
sitting here at 37 so now you left the
game of basketball we’re here in
Shanghai we’re gonna end our talk today
because we’ve gone a little bit past our
limit but I think everybody is very
happy to be here and I think they
learned a lot about the memoy Mamba
mentality right what’s what’s next you
know for you well it’s it’s always
teaching the game I mean teaching the
game through various ways you know it’s
we do camps and clinics we do those
things and but also through storytelling
right how can you how can you share
stories with the rest of the world that
challenges them to look internally and
and to learn things like process and
learn how to navigate the sense of self
and all these things how can you infuse
that into entertainment in a way that
pushes our culture and our society
forward now those are the questions that
I’m really really intrigued by and
that’s what we’ll focus on ladies and
gentlemen one of the greatest of all
time Kobe Bryant thank you thanks so much
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