the song is more than a song and I think
it became an anthem I’m not a white
rapper by the way I’m a rapper
you don’t label music with colors it’s
made for your ears not your eyes
it reflects the 90s and the 90s was the
last of the great decades so it’s 1990
I’m in Germany at a refugee camp and
this is the era of Baywatch this is the
now this is a story all about how my
right this is the era of you know
Germany had won the World Cup and then
all of a sudden they start talking about
this song that’s coming out that’s
famous in America and everybody in
Germany is playing the song in their
cars in the clubs at the refugee camps
it didn’t matter where you were
everybody was playing this song called
Ice Ice Baby by a man named Vanilla Ice
and we’re hanging out with him today
so what oh what a wild a twist from a
refugee camp listen to your song now
we’re hanging out with your house while
you got the project of Vanilla Ice
project that background noise is right
behind us in a winter of Florida which
is very freezing obviously it’s cold
weather oh yeah I’m terrible so cold
yeah challenging time for this you know
it’s so brother it’s good to be here
with you at your house thank you uh you
you got one of the coolest stories with
a lot of lessons in it that a lot of
people can learn from and it’s
inspirational story that you got that
want to kind of get into it so we see
that before I go to that when I was in
the Army it’s 97 I went through Club in
South Carolina Wow we went to club in
South Carolina to plain ice ice baby I’m
in Nashville Tennessee we go to a club
called mix Factory Ice Ice Baby I went
to a country club in Nashville it’s
called Silverado their point Ice Ice
Baby be nice like Ice Ice Baby is played
like this all over the place so what
happened how did this thing go from you
know here’s a kid you’re going back and
forth from Dallas Miami your family mom
and dad and then you write a song at 16
and then tell us the story about how
this thing home came about to Ice Ice
Baby basically I had a fake ID I was in
Dallas it was my brothers he’s five
years older so I took his driver’s
license he could never find it and that
was my fake ID so I would take that and
I would getting it in clubs and stuff
and I went to this club over on Martin
Luther King Boulevard called city lights
I went in there and they’re having a
talent contest I had no idea and and my
buddy says man you should get in there
and do that because I come from
breakdancing era I
grew up to like Parliament Funkadelic
Rick James Zapp Roger Troutman what were
some of some of the movies right beep
streets free turbo ozone the whole wave
and everything and I had the mirror but
I had a breakdance crew so I was 14
years old and I would go to the mall and
I would spin on my head and I’d make 40
bucks a day chased the girls around the
mall eat some pizza have some change
left over and that was more than all the
rich kids could get from across the town
Wow and and I loved doing it so we would
go out every day big ghettoblaster
piece of cardboard right went right at
the most busy door where people coming
in and out and it was the greatest thing
ever got really good at it just by
having fun and then we got underage keg
drinking parties and all the high
schools would come together and we would
you know keg parties and we would battle
each other from other schools like rap
beat boxing and breakdance and this was
cured this was balanced this is Dallas
Texas got it and I was at our L Turner
high school and in Farmers Branch not
Carrollton barber people thought I was
from Carrollton because that’s more
where the richer people live and what a
blast I had at that school so we would
go to Preston wood mall which doesn’t
exist anymore the Galleria does we would
you know but it was even before that
there was I mean it was the most amazing
breakdance movement ever and that’s what
influenced me and that’s where that’s
why when it was time for me to sit down
and and write music that that’s what
influenced me so that’s what was going
to come out so I was heavily into poetry
even before the music which is kind of
everything kind of tied together and
then drove me in that direct how did
that happen how do poet poetry happen
with you poetry came in and I was
horrible in English and horrible in
school in in English but somehow I just
related to poetry more than anything on
the planet even until even to this day
everything is poetry with me like I can
give you thousands of dollars with the
therapy by just saying a few little
phrases that’ll change your whole
mindset like yesterday’s history
tomorrow’s a mystery that’s so you know
I don’t have to sit down and tell you
everything about it just think about it
a little bit or we are who we are
because of who we were or just all this
comes from poetry you know from Edgar
Allan Poe dove all the different poets
throughout life
I always just gravitate some soon as a
kid you were gravitating towards poetry
always so is that what led to writing
the song or how did that it led to
definitely to writing the song and make
me who I am you know because I wanted to
express myself and then the influence of
the hip hop culture movement had that
influence in me and then the poetry and
it was only natural that I write and do
the way at what I did you know I didn’t
know any other way of doing it you know
who had the most influence at that time
with the hip hop culture cuz 1990 who’s
around in 1990 this is pre Dre Tupac
this is pre this is pre those guys yeah
right yeah I was uh I was at that club
citylights my set my buddy says man get
up on stage get into this talent contest
this is no way man
he says get up on stage I said okay and
I did it and I thought it was gonna be
like a joke because I’m kind of a
jackass you know like before jackass I
don’t take anything too serious so I
thought I’d get up there he kind of
dared me you know I was a daredevil guy
I raced motocross and all that I’ll do
it whatever I’m definitely not scared so
I did it and I turned it out man and I
and when I got off stage I went to the
bar and these guys were passing me cards
hey man I’m with Capitol Records
I’m with all these record companies EMI
you know everybody was in the house and
then and I was I don’t believe any of
them cuz I’m in the hood I mean this is
straight hood and I’m like you guys just
printed up some business cards and
you’re just trying to you know come up
here to get the females and hang out
right I’m not buying it you would not be
here if you were with this record
company you wouldn’t be in this spot I
got one card man and it was Ichiban
records out of Atlanta and I landed a
small record deal with Curtis Mayfield
who was on the label at the time and I
sold like 40,000 copies of Ice Ice Baby
and then and then it was picked up by
the majors I was only 16 when I wrote
that song so it’s incredible it was 19
when it when it blew up so when it blew
up it it took on a life of its own and
you never know because I don’t have like
a favorite song out of all my catalog I
don’t say oh that’s my favorite one it’s
you know your your fans picked you you
don’t pick them so that’s so strange
that’s the part like how do you you
even know this thing was gonna take off
the way nobody could predict what
happened what was it was there and like
you know today they talked about this
video went viral that video went viral
this movie went by this campaign went
was there a single event a radio show a
concert and endorsement that somebody
played was it an LA thing was it a New
York thing what happened for it to go
viral the way did well it takes people
to gravitate towards it and I think the
song is more than a song and I think it
became an anthem almost to the point
where it surpasses number one hit song
and it just takes on a life of your own
becomes an anthem when when people
listen to the song and they remember
like a photographic memory who they
dated in high school what kind of
clothes they wore maybe they ripped out
their backseat and put in subwoofers and
they can play this song and it all comes
back without going through the metal
album so it reaches a level of like
beyond a number one hit song because
there’s been number one hit songs from
here to then that you probably can’t
even remember you’re like oh yeah that
Mariah Carey song that was number one
you know okay you know but you don’t it
doesn’t really impact your life I think
that it impacted people’s life with a
movement of pop culture and I think the
pop culture in the fashion together
really defines a certain generation and
so that kind of is the anthem Ice Ice
Baby and the ninja rap are the anthem of
the 90s what what was special about what
you did is you were able to get because
at that time you know hip-hop typically
the people who listened to hip-hop
it wasn’t Caucasians you know it wasn’t
like you know I would have any white
audience at all when I came when I came
out I opened up for ice-t stats a sonic
EPMD sir mix-a-lot I was on the stop the
violence to her right
my whole audience was always black and
that’s just rap music that I thought it
was always gonna be that way I didn’t
think it would ever change and that’s
who I catered to and that’s what I did
and they accepted me and it was the
greatest thing ever and I just that was
I was fine with that but when I say it
took on a life of its own
about the time when I was the opening
act for MC Hammer and that’s when
everything just went I started seeing
white people come to my shows more and
more and then I seen blacks whites
Puerto Ricans Mexicans and every other
everybody in the world started coming
and I was just like wow this is not rap
music cuz I’ve never looked at rap music
as a color I’m not a white rapper by the
way I’m a rapper you know you don’t you
don’t label
music with colors it’s made for your
ears not your eyes so I never compare
anything or even think about that issue
and it’s never been an issue with me I
reflect and in my the music that has
influenced me yeah well what I would I
see would what you did is it’s almost
when when Tiger was an african-american
golfer and you’re like wait a minute
now a Middle Eastern guy like me is
interested in golf I would have never
paid attention to golf you came in and
in that time you got people that maybe
never looked at hip-hop because the
biggest record prior to do was sold was
who was at half a million records yeah
half a million records like Beastie Boys
Run DMC which was the biggest rap
selling records of all time and then and
then all a sudden my record sells 163
million a Honda 63 million and it’s like
twenty five six years old right now and
last year it sold 3.3 million my first
record to the extreme sold 3.3 around
the world last year it’s crazy how it
just keeps going and going but you know
I don’t know how to explain things but I
think that by analyzing it myself I
think that in a funny way that it’s all
connected to the Ninja Turtles funny as
it sounds I I think that because the
generation of the Ninja Turtles is
really huge you know it’s like our age
and then the kids today are still into
it so they can be like cool to their
kids you know like you like the Ninja
Turtle so did I you know and we have
this bond and I’m connected forever
through Kevin Eastman and all the Ninja
Turtles and everything it’s a culture
and it’s it’s huge and it goes around
the world people forget that that movie
was big in Russia it was big an Iran it
was big enough games down in every place
that you could imagine that you would
never imagine it’s big there and Ice Ice
Baby also traveled through all those
avenues and went through over every
hurdle to get to two countries that have
never considered listening to rap music
not just America because the movement
started in America and it opened up all
demographics and it basically created a
life of its own and became an anthem and
I’m honored man I mean because it
reflects the 90s
and the 90s was the last of the great
decades and the reason I say that is
because of pop culture through music and
fashion if you think about it right now
they call it the Lost Generation because
from 2000 to 2017 there’s a gap of 17
years and they call it The Lost
Generation because nothing defines it
hmm and if you look back a hundred years
from now and you look at from 2000 to
2017 the only thing that defines it is
computers an iPhone iPhone came out in
2004 the laptop came out as computers
the computers were so big and they still
are right now that nothing is is making
an impact with fashion right now all my
kids and every kid you see is wearing
the same stuff from the 90s high tops
neon colors the same stuff we wore in
the 90s I mean listen we got our movies
at Blockbuster bro yes we did 20/20 on
blockbuster we didn’t have no 1080p or
snap crap or Instagram right we had flip
bones
remember we come from flip phones when
simple life was simple and it was just
like oh look at this man my phone flips
and you had to text like you know five
times to get like the number seven to
say an M or something right now it was
written in our time was pagers right our
time was a pagers camera phones you know
you got those big brick phones right but
but we come from us you know we used to
dance in the 90s we danced in the 90s
was just such a great decade it was the
whole last big pop culture movement you
go in the mall today you see everything
90s they’re coming out with a fanny pack
again everything know about fanny packs
they wear Wayfarer glasses now I’m like
come on man they can’t come up with
anything new because how are you gonna
wear a computer how you gonna wear the
iPhone look it doesn’t make a
pop-culture impact it’s an interesting
movie make it makes pop-culture impact
because music affects people through
their through their memory yeah you can
play a song no matter how old it is and
you’ll remember something when that song
comes on you remember who you were
dating in high school right kind of
clothes or shoes you had
you’ll know what kind of car you drove
there are certain songs that make you
happy instantly I think about Will Smith
you know summertime you know how that
song comes you just kind of go in good
mood
mono Jordan this is how we do it and
then yeah no matter when you play Ice
Ice Baby there’s something that happens
seeing everybody who triggers yes it
triggers something so so so this happens
you go you’re selling a million records
a day it’s one fire and then all of a
sudden you’re getting some controversy
that’s coming out you got the gig with
our senior hall that is going on there
and that was kind of an interesting
interview the way was done and
afterwards he says he had a bad day that
day and he got pressured because he had
some misinformation so he was upset at
you right whatever was going on there so
tell me about the next part because here
you are you’re everywhere magazine cover
magazine TV news concerts and then BOOM
here comes David Bowie Queen you know
under pressure how did that go about
well you know when you’re pushing down
walls and breaking down barriers and
jumping over hurdles and you’re selling
more records than anybody in the world
people are gonna come at you from every
angle to try to get the money or try to
cause you know conflict or looking for
stories to create ratings and all kinds
of things so they create all this
stories and all this media hype around
me because I’m the center of attention
so when you’re a center of attention and
the world would rather hear you know
more negative stuff than posit you know
though that’s so it just kind of takes
on a life of its own
for me I was young I didn’t know any
different I just rode the wave and the
way I look at it is it’s like a snow
globe it gets shaken up you know what I
mean and this thing is just all over the
place I’ve read so many different
stories about me I don’t even know what
to believe but it’s it’s amazing how you
can leave such an impact that people
have all these different opinions in
conversations about you you know and
what what’s the truth what happened
there with the the under-pressure song
right under pressure was basically a
sampling I sampled the under pressure
song David Bowie and queen and I stole
my brother’s record collection cuz he
moved out with
girl and it was all collecting dust in
his closet and I pulled out a few
records you know and I’m like Oh put it
on the turntable and I had a sampling
machine I had two 808 a 9:09 an 808 and
a Roger Linn MPC 60 yep so I sampled
ding ding ding Diggy ding ding right and
I’m like oh and then I put the beat
behind it me and my DJ earthquake cut it
up put it in the studio on a 16 track
not even 24 track and this studio was
made for singing jingles we had to
convince this guy that we were going to
go places and do things so give us some
studio time because we couldn’t afford
it we were broke and he goes oh I don’t
know about this that’s expensive to make
a record you know not like today where
everybody’s got a home studio so we
convinced him you know I must have
busted a rhyme to him or something I
gave him a rhyme and he was just like
wow that’s pertinent Cole you know and
go ahead go on my ears my studio label
back you know so we got to work till you
know 6:00 every day and after that you
can come in at night and do your thing
boom I put it in there man I made the
whole record to the extreme and yeah
sell the million records a day this
thing came out I went on tour and then I
went on my own world tour through
America first you know and then and then
when I when they said you’re going to
Europe you’re going to London and you’re
playing Wimbley arena sold out you know
and now we’re going to Russia and I’m
started like what now you’re going to
everywhere in the world from into
Indonesia to China to Asia everywhere
you could hit on the entire world and
I’m like this is rap music do these
people know this nope but they will now
they know your song and I go to Germany
and I meet these these kids who are
speaking broken English and they say I
learned to speak English on your song
what is a gauge in a9 some of the words
with the slang they didn’t understand
you know but they lay they rehearsed it
and they learned it through the music
and I was just so so fascinated by this
because I never knew the impact of what
I wrote down sitting in my living room
right there you know
would ever make that big of an impact
and boom so I guess I get samples since
my record was really blowing up they
came at me at it with a lawsuit
obviously for sample clearances sure I
didn’t clear any samples you know I just
did the same thing that had been done
way before I came along in rap music but
the difference is Hamid very common I
mean I didn’t invent sampling that’s a
part of rap music shoreless to date they
do it today I’m done Puff Daddy
although gets away with it for all the
heat that I took from it what happened
was is that you know everybody who did
it before me wasn’t getting sued because
they didn’t sell any records to get sued
so a lawyer says there’s no money there
who cares whether it’s a Beastie Boy –
Run DMC or whatever it didn’t matter and
now that I’m selling a million records a
day they’re like this is money this is
sampling so you know they went after it
so they opened up an entire building in
New York City called sample clearances
an entire building hundred floors and I
was like just because me just because of
the impact of my record and so yeah I
went through a lawsuit and instead of
you know going through court and
everything I settled the thing you know
and I ended up buying a buy-in the song
so I actually own a good portion of
under pressure so under pressure is my
song and Ice Ice Baby as my song you
won’t want a portion of London oh come
on depressions and I’m gonna be getting
good check oh yeah yeah so under
pressure was in the cartoon sync and it
was in the movie girl-next-door you
don’t matter either way I’m getting –
unbelievable so I learned about
publishing by that you know cuz Michael
Jackson owns the Beatles publishing and
all that so I bought some of my
publishing back and trying to put a
whole two catalogue together it’s not
easy to buy publishing but that’s the
real money that’s where it’s at you know
so here’s my question for you next
because ok sampling so what the
controversy was dead then the
controversy was you know is this guy
real tough guys he not a tough call ok
no problem I mean they’ve said that 50
get shot nine times if this guy gets
shot up the DMX do this this is very
common controversy that happens but at
that time when it happened – it seems
like you were the first guy where they
went to with
this side of the story right so my
questioning would be my thought process
is how different would it have been if
1990 was 2017 with access to today’s
social media think about oh yeah device
came out today in 2017 how many
followers would you have had on
Instagram how many on Twitter how many
on you know snap you know would that
have allowed for your career to
continuously continuously grow or would
it have been what happened to you back
in the days in 1999 without it it would
have been a huge impact either way
because a great song is a great song and
you could release that song a huge
impact no matter which way it’s released
that’s all I mean of them big it all
starts off with the song if people can
analyze it in so many ways that it
becomes confusing and complicated and
it’s really it’s not rocket science it’s
more simple than that the honest truth
behind it is a great song is a great
song no matter who wrote it or what it
is or how it came from or anything about
it but the 90s had such a movement you
know before social media and everything
so people really believed some of these
rumors like NWA they really thought they
were gangster I did I was opening up for
him and when eazy-e came down the
hallway I stood up against the wall go
here he comes here he comes hi I was
scared of him cuz I really thought they
were doing drive-bys and you know and
all this stuff but later on we find out
you know cuz you know I I knew
personally first of all because of the
sugar night thing because of all the the
you know III contributed to mm I’d was
so Suge Knight may have been a gangster
guy but yes maybe not musicians were not
so gangster like people think so they
called him studio gangsters you know of
course because if they really would
would advertise that on a record they
wouldn’t be very smart would they and
they go to prison right away it’d be
like oh you just told everybody you
murdered people
what will let’s investigate you from the
FBI oh you did let’s go to prison so
like bobby schmurder he actually said it
he wrote about it he did it now he’s in
prison you can’t do that so the studio
gangster thing came out in the 90s you
have some people who did and dabbed in
the streets and he lived around it so
they wrote about that yeah and that’s
kind of what happened
more more like reporters of it but they
would they when they reflected it
through their music you would think that
they were the ones actually doing it
like ice-t was one of the originators of
it you know and I know he’s seen some
gangster stuff around the streets
because we all know Compton and watts
and we know the streets that they all
grew up in but I don’t think they were
the ones that were actually physically
doing it and I know all of them anyway
and I knew Tupac when he when he had a
little high top fade and he was really
friendly you know and then all of a
sudden he started getting more into the
streets and in reflecting kind of what
he saw in his environment growing up you
know what I mean yeah and he became like
a reporter so to speak to his
communities in his environment and stuff
that he’s seen through his life and
people could read that through his music
he’s a genius at it all of them were so
so I look at it from the outset er I say
as a fan right obviously I’m not in that
world I look at as a fan Tupac died in
96 I’m class on 96 so I grew up you know
in this side and in LA and so what I
look at on your strengths is you guys
are very creative your brain goes a
million miles a minute like I just ask
you right now are you OCD when I looked
at your garage yeah like this guy’s a
super organized guy the way you are you
said yes I’m super OCD and helps you on
the real estate side yeah it is there a
part of it that you think were you guys
when I say you guys I categorize a
creative community you can adapt to new
trends which could be where you came out
with your music that you had and in your
second album that you came up with was a
complete shift of what your original one
was and that one didn’t work out as good
as the first one you think there was a
part of it where you felt like the the
marketplace was telling you ice shift
Rob you got a shift you got a change in
to go to this do you think that’s what
it was or Deeping was just I don’t care
about all that stuff I never think about
outside influence I write my music the
way I ride it I’ve had people try to
pressure me to make new records and do
things and I won’t do it it’s more like
a to me I hold it more sacred it’s more
like a diary and I’ll write my diary
when I feel damn good and well to write
it and I’ll do it the way I want to do
it and I’ll reflect it the way I want to
do it
everybody wants to come in and try to
take over the wheel and steer you in
this direction or this direction that
how it was where you were going through
it but when I when I started off when I
when it blew up I I I trusted these
record companies and everything and they
created these things called BIOS I
didn’t even know what the word bio meant
I thought it was biodome the movie you
know I didn’t know anything about this
sure by oh yeah no I was only kidding so
I look at it like it’s a snow globe and
it was all shaken up but it was it was
definitely such an impact that it really
was confusing to me more than anybody
because I was just like wow the impact
of them trying to change you or to
direct you they try to change me with
BIOS that they wrote because they wanted
to clean up my act because now I’m
catering to a younger audience what I
wasn’t yes so so they created this image
of how I look how I dress and you know
try to turn me in almost to like a teen
star and they did actually Amazon teen
magazines and everything tube because I
had such an impact of a broad scale
audience for rap music they’ve never had
this happen drummer so there was nobody
before me I have the first hip-hop song
to ever go number one on pop station
first ever and it’s it’s it was just
unchartered territory so what happened
is is that you know Eminem can use my
career as a guideline on what to do what
not to do but nobody could I could I
don’t have anybody to look at try me
so I I trusted these people just to
their the record company they must know
what they’re doing I’m selling a million
records a day my bank account is huge go
ahead what are we doing next I became a
puppet that’s exactly what I was asking
that so and I didn’t want to be a puppet
after I realized some of the
consequences of being a puppet I was
like wait a minute isn’t it this so what
happened is is this snow globe
kind of settled and then I realized that
it was artificial almost everything is
artificial in fact all of the music
industry to me but I started to get a
real good focus on it not what the
public sees but what what I see as an
inside person living it right
it came in focus and it became
artificial like it’s not a real world
like you think of Justin Bieber you know
he goes around he pees on old men off
bridges he drives Lambert
and does drugs and whatever he does you
know you hear all these stories and
nobody cares about his new record at the
time they care more about you know TMZ
and what he’s doing you know with crazy
stuff and how he basically
self-destructs so people were focusing
now on how Vanilla Ice is gonna
self-destruct all this huge Fame and and
all this stuff you know so how is it
gonna collapse
oh my god I’m interested now so talk
about that so now all that pressures on
you yeah everybody’s prepared for you to
collapse yeah you don’t have like a
eminem had a Dre you’re 50 a 10mm or you
know somebody has a mentor that’s giving
them direction you’re just kind of
coming about yourself out of that alone
man and you’re making this work
what the hell you thinking at this time
like how are you probably scatterbrained
and and that’s what I was saying so what
happened is is that I had a weekend it
lasted about three years and then it and
then a snow globe settled and then I
figured it out you know what here’s the
truth all this the red carpets the the
screaming fans the traveling everywhere
is all artificial and then there’s the
real me there’s me so the media the fame
everything is artificial it’s not real
it’s a part of my life because that’s my
career my job now but it was really just
a passion I didn’t think of I got a job
I got a career I’m gonna make money
doing this I never did it initially to
make any money or have any fame it
wasn’t my purpose or my drive my drive
was to create a diary and write some
songs using poetry to just basically
reflect everything of my environment
that I’ve seen in my life and grew up
you know my life it wasn’t ever meant to
be what it was and it took on a life of
its own and when that happened I’m the
only one that’s on the wave and that
wave was so big it was like a frickin
tsunami and I’m surfing that thing man
and I’m surfing it all the way and as
you know and I know every wave has to
hit the shore so that wave hits the
shore and crashes and most people right
there is where all the cameras come over
when you hit the shore and they go oh
it’s self-destructing what’s he gonna do
turn the drug
suicide joined the 27 club where are we
going now let’s see all the lies on this
let’s throw darts at him let’s say this
and that he’s just a product on the
shelf we pull off and we’ll use him for
ratings you know let’s polish up the
Suge Knight’s story oh he hung him over
a balcony now oh really okay you know
it’s crazy stuff just comes out so I
learned how to differentiate that
there’s a real person still in here and
I had to find that real person and I had
to separate it from that artificial
thing and it was basically going back to
motocross racing and hanging out with my
real people and you know it was some one
of the greatest things ever and I
learned how to you know and then I had a
family and I’ve created my family and my
kids and then I realized that we are all
the same around this entire world we’re
all one and once I became this super
positive person I became Who I am and I
love spreading positivity because I
believe this is this is it man this is
all we get we go from start to finish
make it the best don’t take anything too
serious smile more through life I don’t
care if it’s economy religion your job
your family your relationship don’t take
anything too serious including yourself
enjoy life guys man
when we die game over make it a game
make it fun once you find a purpose
that’s better to live for than yourself
then you’ll realize that’s the meaning
of life is to have family and friends
because I don’t care what you have how
much Fame you have how much money you
have you could be driving all the
Bugattis Ferraris everything you want if
you’re alone you’ll trade it at all of
it for you know some green stamps and a
family and friends because the family
and friends are gonna treat you a lot
better than your money and your fame is
and they’re gonna be real with you and
they’re gonna give you more happiness
more smiles more love more more life
than any of the rest of it so it’s it
was a lesson that was you know taught to
me through basically consequences of
life so so that’s that’s that’s intra
it’s great to see where you’re at right
now with the project you’re working on
but a couple questions while you were
going through your career any any unique
to Park stories or experiences you have
that maybe people haven’t heard from
your point of view because you hear
these stories with Tupac and you hear
the guy had so many multiple
personalities one minute it could be a
happy guy one minute he’s talking about
revolution one minute
wants to go out there and be a player
one minute he’s got a temper
who was to puck to you when you had an
experience with them well I know to puck
I knew him well and he was a great guy
he’s very very welcoming he had a big
heart a big heart and the greatest thing
about him was his talent he didn’t even
really know he had the talent that he
had he had a way of absorbing everything
that he would see through life whether
he lived it or not he would absorb it
and then he had the talent to bring it
up somehow in a subconscious while he
was in some sort of environment a lab we
call it maybe up in the mountains
Malibu who knows where he wrote you know
but somewhere a Zen moment like a rider
would you know hibernate somewhere Tupac
had a way of taking all the absorption
and all of it and putting it into song
forms which were poetry he was a poet
and that’s I don’t even think he knew
what a great poet he really was and a
lot of people can have those influences
and they just they come in and they see
things that happen to him but they don’t
have a way to absorb it to where it
comes out in their subconscious when
they’re writing and I think he could tap
into anything at any creative time
whatever he was thinking about and write
about it in a creative way in an
entertaining way and if he was sitting
there talking they’re thinking about how
he got here and being respectful to
having money and fame he would go into
his mom and he would talk about his mom
and he would write about his mother dear
mama I can still get goosebumps
listening to that song at that time you
know what I’m saying yeah so he had that
talent man that he didn’t even know he
had for me I got a I got a really tap
into that creative juices you know I
can’t that’s why I won’t just go make a
record for the sake of making a record
look walk some studio time I’m going in
to make a record it becomes artificial
at that time for me I want to make it a
chapter of my life I want to make it a
part of something you can really look at
it and say and feel where I was at at
that time you know you tap into those
emotions and that’s the greatest thing
about music is that if you can you let
your emotions out through your records
they become less artificial and more
real and people relate to it a lot more
I did a song a record called hard to
swallow and it was my therapeutical
record I did it with Ross Robinson
produced Korn Limp Bizkit and all these
great acts it needed to be this for me
and it wasn’t because I was trying to do
rock music or any kind of other thing
than being orchestrated by this type of
music because of what had happened in my
life
Ross Robinson came to me I didn’t come
to him
I didn’t search this direction out and I
didn’t think it would sell 10 copies and
it ended up selling 5 million copies
underground with no promotion no MTV
videos no social media just word of
mouth oh my god did you hear this
Vanilla Ice record they would play it
for people and I remember hearing
stories that people say I’m gonna put
this CD in and I’m gonna jam this thing
and I’m gonna crank it up now you tell
me if you know who this is they never
could guess it and they said I don’t
know who it is but it’s freaking awesome
let’s hear it again and then they’d say
that’s Vanilla Ice I mean I keep that
hell out of here that is not vanilla ice
and it is because of all the things that
have happened in my life you know they
were trapped in me and I needed to get
those demons out and so the
orchestration of every dark thing that
had ever happened in my life needed that
kind of orchestration behind me to
release to release it and to make it
real and and fit and and that record is
the most realistic I’ve ever wrote you
to me Wow
cuz it was a diary man and I got those
demons out and ever since I made that
record I’ve been happy music like I
listened to some of my music but some of
it like that record I can’t listen to it
I won’t be into it I won’t because I
Irie tap into some negative thoughts
that have happened in my life that I
don’t want to relive so I got them out I
don’t want them back you know what I
mean so if I listen to that I will start
thinking about where I was at in that
time I have a song on there called scars
I don’t want to hear it I have a song
called a DD I don’t want to hear it it
makes me depressed and I was depressed
at that time and that’s why I wrote it
you weren’t I was depressed got it and I
don’t want to be that I’m so happy now
because I got it out of me and that was
a therapeutical record and I never
thought music could be so therapeutical
I thought music was meant to make people
dance and be happy and
fun but with my music you know I always
took it so serious and then you know
with the image and then the record
company taken over with everything
making it cater to a younger audience
and fitting kids and demographics and
everything it kind of overpowered some
of the words in the music but if you
listen to all my music I tell stories
I’m not a rapper that goes out and goes
hey pump it up pump it up go go get it
get it let’s dance dance dance and I’m
really you know and some of those songs
are good just if you want to dance the
stuff but if you listen to my music it
really does tell stories every single
one of them you know if you listen to
Ice Ice Baby it’s a story from start to
finish rolling in my 5.0 rag top down so
my hair can blow shave with the gauge
vanilla with a nine you know eight ball
that’s cocaine man that’s not bread
eight year old kid so the image
overpowered it gauge is a 12 gauge nine
is a nine millimeter I’m sitting here
dancing and singing like it’s the like
I’m Justin Bieber all of a sudden and so
in teen magazines and I’m going does
anybody listening to the words Wow
so it took on a life of its on that even
surprised me I’m like wow I was never
get up to be any of this I was never put
in a position to say let’s practice
before you do this or I was just thrown
out there like a piece of meat to a pack
of wolves and let’s see what comes out
and let’s see what comes out so you
transition from there when I asked about
to Park in the fact that he was a
storyteller that you are also kind of a
storyteller yourself was was there a
moment with Tupac that you yourself
would cherish forever did you guys have
a moment where you say this was one
moment one conversation I had with him
that I will forever remember this yeah
he’s very he’s got a lot of wisdom and
he actually he gave me some wisdom some
things that I don’t feel like talking
about honestly they’re personal to me
and I’ll hold them dearly forever great
guy he gave me some wisdom but I also he
what was what made him real cool to me
was that he says he says I gave him some
wisdom you know these are some personal
things that would stir up a lot of
controversy out there so I’m gonna keep
him to myself because they’re personal
but that’s exactly what they were meant
to be personal it was me and him in a
common conversation that was brief but
but very impact
schulte in my life and the direction I
decided to go and who I became so I have
a lot of influence myself you know what
I mean
and it wasn’t his music that influenced
me I mean even though he was super
talented but it was more of the people
you know there’s been other people along
the way you know went to a park passed
you know what were you think were you
kind of in the mix where because you
know kid frost has his own opinions of
what happened and you know cube you know
snoop a lot of guys have their own
opinion were you in the mix to kind of
have some idea of what happened or you
had no idea listen nobody would ever
expect Vanilla Ice to be in such of the
gangster mix but yes I was right in the
middle of it I mean when I saw the NWA
movie I saw the part right where I was
kind of inserted I saw I knew them
because I was their opening act
yeah I seen the whole NWA movement and
everything and then and then I knew when
Suge Knight came in and I knew when when
you see I you know that before there was
Tupac the chronic record and Snoop Dogg
that was the insertion of vanilla ice in
the Suge Knight thing because the money
that basically he took went to finance
behind these guys and and by doing that
I I was never bitter I was like wow I
just contributed to some of the greatest
hip-hop music ever invented ever the
chronic record history man that’s
historical well Tupac historical Snoop
Dogg historical they all knew it all of
them knew it everyone knew where it went
and how and had three to four million
right that should got from your summer
run more more four and still going
because he got points off the record so
is he getting it or is the other guy you
know who’s getting the points yeah they
Big E he’s getting it of course you got
a combative Park based on what you think
you kind of is there a way you lean
towards saying this is the person I got
to pocket some say was a blood and crip
thing so crip con is there anything that
you say who got two pucks you have an
idea I got every bit of idea and I will
not say a word man you you’re not gonna
get me there bro you can ask me whatever
you want but I I will hold that one to
my grave brother well I mean
multiple times they come back to the
same guy’s name but it seems like it’s a
probably you’ve got a pretty good idea
let’s tell you this what do you read on
Google I mean it are on the Internet is
is confusing but I think there’s been a
lot of years go by and it’s it’s always
gonna be like the JFK thing it’s always
gonna be until you have the actual
person there and you’ve really locked it
down in the case is closed yeah it’s
gonna be a conspiracy to the end of time
the good thing is there was a lot of
people that witness said they give their
own views the cousin you know I think
the cousins right now making a movie
about it and he’s trying to give its
perspective there’s so many people close
to it that can give you enough idea
something like this there’s a lot of
people that could tell you I doubt any
of them really will and if you find one
that will more power to you man hope
he’s still alive the next day I don’t
know there’s certain things that should
stay private you know I just want you
think this is one I mean I don’t think
that love will fans need to know this I
think they can go find it pretty much
online there’s a they’ve got pretty good
stories online yeah some of the avenues
are artificial and not the right
direction got it but I will say this
truth is out there online already okay
not gonna tell you which one it is
anything I’m not saying anything further
but everything is there it is there okay
so you’ve had some wild experiences in
your life man I mean you were Barbie at
one point which is you know and not many
people can say they had a bar laugh
about it today man I got those balls
collect them now how do you kids feel
about it when they say my kids think I’m
so cool like boy than I think I am
that’s the best thing so you said you
had you had you know the whole Barbie
doll thing I think you know you were top
motocross guy that was competitive you
got a bunch of trophies on the other
side they’re in your garage I think in
one point in 1994 you were ranked what
number six jet skier in the world you
know you did poetry you dated Madonna
you I mean you had some you had a life
what what that’s past tense I have the
greatest life now because you like but
you have
what has all happened the experiences
you had what was the what’s the craziest
experience you’ve had
oh of course unless you give me the
wildest craziest experience oh it
doesn’t only met the blink I can tell
you right now I had this girl that was
uh I guess from a satanic Church because
my birthday’s on Halloween follow my
tour around she had a black trench coat
on she was naked underneath she was in
front of every concert and she would
flash me and my dancers and all like wow
this is cool we were just kids dancing
you know and you think much about it and
this girl I hear this commotion on the
airplane on my way to Japan and I turn
around and they have this girl tackled
on the you know in the jet back you know
about three rows back and I was just
like wow she was screaming and trying to
get to me and I had my bodyguards you
know at the time they I just think it
was another crazy fan I get off the
plane they come in a rest her I’m at I’m
there for a week and a half in Japan and
in my hotel room I got a knock on the
door no one’s there I opened the door
there’s a Satanic Bible with a message
written to me in the in the book I I
pick it up I drop it and I’m like wow
that’s crazy
the next night same thing about 2:00
a.m. another book another story no one
at the door then the night the next
third night I just switched rooms I told
my whole cuz I had the whole floor 52
people on my payroll at the time so I
had the whole floor and switched rooms
with my road manager John Bush and he
goes in there and he he he gets then
he’s waiting by the door just up all
night nodding off but sitting by the
door the knock happens we had some
security guards at the elevator
he opens up the door and he sees this
girl running down the hallway bashing
out the lights down the hallway there’s
glass everywhere and he goes hey guys
stop that girl and then he they stopped
her from the elevator so she she came up
the fire escape because she couldn’t get
up the elevator they wouldn’t let
anybody on the floor she climbed up that
outside of the building fire escape and
came in and they trapped her in the
hallway we went out there and she was in
the in the hallway and she’s like crying
really bad you know a pretty girl and
crying you just
and everybody backed up you can’t have
him
he’s my destiny and she goes and then we
were all freaking out man we’re like
what is going on with this girl man our
hair was standing up on our back and I
we were like a hobo who and then she
would snap in and out of this character
you know and and John Bush is over there
and he’s like trying to from the movies
I guess he saw you know he figured he
would kind of put his hand over her head
and pray and she was trying to bite him
huh
she would say he would say what are you
doing here and why are you doing this
and I don’t mean to do it is I’m so
sorry this is not me I don’t wanna I
must have
and all these crazy things and noises
were coming out of this girl and we
would we were just three I was way back
in the back man I was tripping and she
could see me through everybody and look
at me when she meant this she was from
Ireland or something in Satanic Church
and she was coming after me – I guess
convert me because I’m born on Halloween
which is I guess their holiday or
whatever who knows but he took her down
the elevator and there before they
arrested her they interrogated her they
talked to her and asked her why and what
she was a mental case man they’re out
there there is a mental people out there
and I had nightmares for years I on the
jet ski tour I punched my buddy in the
face we were all sharing the room we had
four guys in a room and I jumped over in
the middle of my sleep for the nightmare
and punched him in the face and he
punched me back and I go why’d you hit
me he goes look at you bro he had a
bloody nose and I was over there and I
had dragged him with the sheets off his
bed and I had thrown him up against the
window and I’m like I did that he goes
yeah you crazy you what’s going on I go
bro I just had my first nightmare I
didn’t think I could have a nightmare
and I and I thought this girl was coming
I had this crazy dreams man and I had
woke up but still asleep and dragged him
out and start beating my friend up
thinking it was some kind of crazy girl
or something Wow yeah we didn’t know
what happened I didn’t even know why who
punched me in here
oh I woke up and I looked around I said
I did all that he was look at his room
you made a mess I didn’t know I could
have a nightmare and I had a nightmare
like that a living nightmare where I
actually acted it out weird that that’s
what that’s 26 years but that’s like
early 90s yeah on like reminds me the
movie Exorcist right no I don’t even
believe in that stuff and yet here it is
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this is from motocross yeah this is just
a few of them this is how I became
competitive because my dad told me he
says listen you just came in fifth place
I come in he goes deaf because you read
your girlfriend’s house all night and
you didn’t practice off there in the
week he goes do you want to settle but
fifth place you got more talent more
speed than the guys that just beat you
you let them beat you why I go I was
trying because I want to hear that you
didn’t try hard enough you go I said wow
I went out I told my girlfriend I can’t
come over tonight I’m over can’t come
over every day after high school her
school just regular school I was
practice practice practice practice
practice
I get out there that weekend every guy
that beat me I won I started women is
right yeah high expectation baby it
pushed me man into a love standpoint
love all I built all of this whole house
from all the ceiling applications to the
fiber optic life but if you want to you
know convert the room over and shut it
you’ll see that everything will
motorized so even your windows turning
to movie posters with breaks everything
shuts yeah the windows turn into movie
posters and you’re gonna you want to see
a cool toilet we put these fancy things
in and this is already a few years old
right no most people have nothing to
show about a toilet but this thing plays
blue – it’s got oscillating pulsating
front cleansing I mean I think it’s a
sex toy where do you keep your exotics
where do you keep some of your cars I’ve
got a couple of them here I’ve got other
houses already said you building a 200
car garage oh yeah I collect the little
cars and all cars actually so Rob how
did you how did you keep your money so I
like that work a lot of you know you
keep your money is you never stop
working good point
you know you don’t just makes a bunch of
money and go oh I can retire or I can
stop because your bills don’t stop they
always accumulate
and they don’t even bigger as time goes
so you just don’t stop working min work
work working get up and go to work some
technology I found it’s really cool this
could solve world hunger this is a it
makes water out of the air so they call
it drinkable air and this is more than
other things I’m showcasing this is a
wrinkle in my show yeah can I have a cup
absolutely it’s delicious mate out of
air there’s no water joke there’s no
water feed it puts water into this it
takes humidity and makes water and it’s
cold it’s cold it’s purified and it’s
delicious anybody else wants on so I got
hit by Hurricane Andrea I lost a lot of
these I had tons of them but if you look
here this one here is this is how it
works this is platinum which means a
million records 1 million sold so you
got 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 and
then you got over here 15 16 17 18 19
there’s 20 million 25 million six seven
went six times platinum in Australia
there’s like 30-something million here’s
another 10 million that’s 50 million
this is 50 I’m showing you certified
right here but it’s a hundred and sixty
three million
Wow first record first one this the one
that sold 40,000 Ichiban records right
there Wow
yeah that’s it right there the only
painting in the world of her like that
the only painting in the world of her
life to get going in just going to go
you go that’s right
never gonna continue forever who would
have thought the Ninja Turtles would
continue forever yes I love this
location and you can see it feels like
we’re in the country and all this land
that I can do whatever I want with
nobody bother me is so total private and
I love it over here at the compound now
the ocean house is cool got a boat and
hang out there but this is the compound
you know mainly it’s a bit more my place
also kind of give you a taste of Texas
like it I got almost I’m in the middle
of billionaire row here and this is
gonna be a head 200 car garage all right
here air-conditioned all this you’re
saying you’re gonna finish this by me
yes the whole thing
yeah I just built a house on the ocean
three acres over here not one person
believed it except for my crew we worked
like ants on a candy bar tell us about
the Vanilla Ice project because you know
you you’ve been you’ve been doing some
real cool stories here I mean people are
saying well I don’t know he had this
side yeah I don’t know he had the real
estate side and then a lot of people
don’t know that for 20 years apparently
you’ve been you’ve been doing this
you’ve been practicing this you’ve been
learning this and now that whole noise
behind us that’s a project you’re
working on apparently she’s saying May
1st at the timeline yeah so tell us how
this came about with the Vanilla Ice
project well the TV show I never really
wanted I didn’t even think about a TV
show I didn’t pitch this I didn’t have
this idea this was Matt Levine out of
New York but the way it worked out was
the TV show is
I’ve been didn’t been doing real estate
for over 23 years I worked my way up
from small homes to middle sized homes
to the huge mansions you see me doing
now so just a lot of hard work you know
getting up early and making things
happen and you know that’s that’s them
drilling right now they don’t do
concrete I went to design school 18
years ago
and I found a passion that I never
thought you could find I didn’t even
expect it or predict it I didn’t you
know when I was doing Ice Ice Baby I
could never say were you gonna be you
know 20 years down the line I never
could envision this so that even shows
me to expect the unexpected you know and
life is gonna take you curves no matter
how you plan it and we all try to set
goals and stuff but if you meet someone
a relationship that can take you off in
a different direction or a job that can
take you in a different direction
there’s so many things that could happen
yeah so I expect the unexpected so I
found a passion that I never thought I
would find and I love it so much I can’t
even tell you man and I get the same
artistic fulfillment out of that as I do
through music you know I really get to
reflect I put my signature on all my
homes I define my homes and to custom
homes that are different than than
anything else in the neighborhoods I’ve
made great money doing this but it’s not
for the money for me it’s it’s it’s art
and it’s just like the music it’s art
and and I create art and I have a hard
time selling them because I can become
attached to them you know I keep half of
the homes and people are like what are
you doing with this home nobody’s living
in it and I go I know I know what are
you gonna do why don’t you sell it
mm-hmm and you know you think of like
that van Gogh he didn’t want to sell his
paintings none of them were for sale
until after he died this is one that I
built you know and I we were having a
Super Bowl party here last night and we
had this place you know with a lot of
people here and we were talking about
you know all my guys have been with me
for over 20 years my concrete guys my
drywall guys my framers your team’s been
with you for 20 20 years well my great
friends they all come from that’s a lot
about you by the way oh thank you yeah
that says a lot about you because if you
can’t keep a team together for that long
yep they’ve seen the good the bad the
ugly whoever it is you’re in business
with oh yeah very impressive and thank
you and and and that’s it I think
building a strong team is is essential
you know and I do now I do speeches and
stuff like this to people who want to
get into real estate or want to just
build a keep a company even any kind of
company and how you can find success in
building any kind of company and I and I
and I pride myself on you know what I’ve
learned throughout the years and I’ve
learned a lot you know I I know how to
build a really strong team
you know there’s thinkers relators
socializers and directors in this world
and you know a socializer like myself
and a director like myself can’t really
do the thinker and the relator thing
which is sit in a cubicle
answer and organize all the paperwork I
have to get up and get out and get in
the world and walk in a room and come up
with the creative ideas but I need those
people because I can’t do it without
them so if I build my team and place
people in the right position by
basically becoming a good judge of
character on what type of person they
are
they are they’re happy because my girl
Angela she’s happy in the cubicle I
couldn’t stand it
she loves organizing and doing file work
and paperwork and all office work and
all this stuff that I can’t do I can but
I have to force myself to do it I don’t
have a thrill she loves it so I put her
there she loved doing that
my buddy Wes Kane he’s the guy that’s
always working really hard he’s my you
know co-star on the TV show with me
he’s a socializer man he’s loud and
proud and you know couldn’t put him in a
cubicle he’s lost so he would be as lost
as if I put Angela in his position so I
know how to position people to build a
successful team and I know you know
there’s a lot of aspects there and and I
learned how to do real estate on my own
by reading books by Robert Simon by
going to borders and and and and sit in
late nights with a cup of coffee and and
just kind of educating myself and were
you always like that or did that is it
pole I know how to learn anything so I
said let me just learn it through books
and so I went to I like coffee I go up
there I sit down by myself I’ve pulled
some books off the shelf and I’ll sit
down and educate myself and and I and so
I started getting into the investment
side of real estate because I definitely
love the creative side and the artistic
side so basically I’m a builder designer
so I designed the interior design as
well as build the entire house yeah but
most of those are two separate people
you have an architect that’s gonna come
in and build the house and that’s just
your frame and then you your walls are
there and they’re all blank and then
your your designer comes in and puts all
the candy or the jewelry or the chrome
or you know all the cosmetics to it I do
all of that both of them I have a thrill
for doing that and then I started
getting into because I used to pay these
designers lots of money and I would
follow them around and kind of intern
and I said oh so that’s how you do it
and then I started looking at dollars
and cents and I said you know what I’m
paying you guys a lot of money and yes
I’m making a profit but I could make a
bigger profit if I excluded you guys and
did what you’re doing myself now
everybody thinks they can become a
designer if they have money but you
can’t let me tell you right now I
thought I could until I went to design
school and then I learned that oh my
gosh everybody thinks
they’re a designer but they’re not you
know what I mean so we kind of parted
about different themes and different you
know from transitional to contemporary I
know even if you knew you gotta have an
eye for an eye and a talent for it but
you have to also understand that you
know color palettes are a big big way to
to cater to demographics if you’re
selling a home
interesting and and you got to do your
your research on what kind of people are
in the area and what kind of income
bracket they are what kind of nucleus
you live around from restaurants to you
know schools and what kind of family is
gonna be buying your home by age
brackets and income so you got to think
of all this and who you’re catering to
you don’t want to make your home for you
if you’re trying to sell it you want to
make it cater to them so you learn about
earth-tone colors throw pillows
fireplaces staging the properties
visuals focal points all kinds of great
things that you would see as a as a
buyer because you only get one time to
make a first impression so I started
getting into the investment side of this
and started looking at the dollars and
how I can build these teams and how I
can really make more profits so I own a
mortgage company now because I learned
how to make money through the mortgage
points and I learned how their yeah
based out of a bedroom open forty-nine
stake of it and and and I have a small
but efficient real estate company
brokerage everything so we do it
in-house and and all my people I you
know I take them on trips and we do live
I am lunch every day my people love me
and I’m not letting this been 23 years
of building this whole thing up to where
it is now Wow and my TV show has been
running eight years of the Vanilla Ice
project so it’s not just here’s a rapper
one day and here you just do in homes I
did this this has been a long time for
you man and and I love it you know so
there’s so many different ways to make
money and and happiness and fun and art
and creativity that I just love it and
it’s got to be built for it it is tough
but you know I lose a lot of sleep
thinking about what I’m gonna do next I
go to Europe to go to like builder shows
so that I purposely stuff that I
introduce on my homes is not something
you’re gonna see on any other TV show
whether it’s a construction or a design
show you’re not going to see it because
I’m going through the far reaches of the
universe I go to Latvia
two builders shows to stuff that you’re
not gonna get on aisle ten in the local
hardware stores here you’re not gonna
find it and then people are always like
wow where did he get that idea where do
you come up with this International
Builder shows I find them everywhere I
lose sleep thinking about it and I’m
just loving to showcase it on my show so
my show is not a flip show it’s a pretty
much a design show really the latest and
greatest in home technology and home
design and even my show has taken on a
life of its own if you watch season 1 to
season 8 it’s it’s evolved and it just
gets bigger and better every season and
as you can see I can talk about this
forever this is my this so you know the
old-school and Tupac and all that that’s
20-something odd years ago and it’s cool
and I can talk about it but I think more
people are interested now with what I’m
doing lately and what I’m doing with it
with the real estate because I have a
lot of top designers and stuff that look
at how I do things and stuff and they’re
my mentors and I I look up to them and
they’re following some of my trends I’m
starting to see a lot of my trends yeah
in certain design features you know and
it’s amazing that I get a chance to
showcase this to the world and we have
over 100 million viewers watching this
show so I’m honored that so many people
gravitate towards it and I think that my
show by what I hear everywhere and
everybody talking has inspired people to
put more money in their house and
because they get it out and happiness
your home is your sanctuary your home is
where you like even after a great
vacation you just go I can’t wait to get
home after your whole long day at work
where do you want to go wanna go home
just like a home you sure you’re not an
entrepreneur at heart instead of just
because because if you would have never
done any music and I didn’t know you and
you just got into business you sound
like a CEO of a real estate company
sound like yeah and it’s amazing it’s
trying to put that identity behind to
see who is Rob versus you know obviously
that identity also helps as well well
you sound like you’re you’re selling
like a pro you’re communicating like I
love what I do man call me I’ll talk to
you so Robert working with what can
everybody see there
for some people that don’t I know
there’s a hundred million people that do
but those who don’t what can they find
it find your show the show is on DIY
Network it’s a DIY Channel pretty much
it’s an upgrade package so if you don’t
get it on your regular basic cable it’s
$12 extra month get the upgrade package
you’ll get you’ll get the DIY Network
which will it’ll blow you away it’s part
of Scripps network so it’s it’s uh it’s
uh you know it’s owned by the same
companies as HGTV DIY Network Cooking
Channel Travel Channel all these are the
same big corporation called Scripps
Networks so get the upgrade package you
can get all these channels and it’s an
amazing thing to show people how to do
it yourself at home where should people
follow you that links always back to the
shows that Instagram you push or you’re
more Twitter guy I do them all man I do
Instagram Twitter Facebook so I’m all
over I got my own website Vanilla Ice
it’s really simple I mean we call it
simple as a pimple at Vanilla Ice so you
can’t get any more simple than that so
we’re gonna put all the links on the
bottom to go visit the project that he’s
working on Rob aka Vanilla Ice brother
waiting for your time really enjoy what
I’m doing at your place man my pleasure oh yeah
it became an anthem I’m not a white
rapper by the way I’m a rapper
you don’t label music with colors it’s
made for your ears not your eyes
it reflects the 90s and the 90s was the
last of the great decades so it’s 1990
I’m in Germany at a refugee camp and
this is the era of Baywatch this is the
now this is a story all about how my
right this is the era of you know
Germany had won the World Cup and then
all of a sudden they start talking about
this song that’s coming out that’s
famous in America and everybody in
Germany is playing the song in their
cars in the clubs at the refugee camps
it didn’t matter where you were
everybody was playing this song called
Ice Ice Baby by a man named Vanilla Ice
and we’re hanging out with him today
so what oh what a wild a twist from a
refugee camp listen to your song now
we’re hanging out with your house while
you got the project of Vanilla Ice
project that background noise is right
behind us in a winter of Florida which
is very freezing obviously it’s cold
weather oh yeah I’m terrible so cold
yeah challenging time for this you know
it’s so brother it’s good to be here
with you at your house thank you uh you
you got one of the coolest stories with
a lot of lessons in it that a lot of
people can learn from and it’s
inspirational story that you got that
want to kind of get into it so we see
that before I go to that when I was in
the Army it’s 97 I went through Club in
South Carolina Wow we went to club in
South Carolina to plain ice ice baby I’m
in Nashville Tennessee we go to a club
called mix Factory Ice Ice Baby I went
to a country club in Nashville it’s
called Silverado their point Ice Ice
Baby be nice like Ice Ice Baby is played
like this all over the place so what
happened how did this thing go from you
know here’s a kid you’re going back and
forth from Dallas Miami your family mom
and dad and then you write a song at 16
and then tell us the story about how
this thing home came about to Ice Ice
Baby basically I had a fake ID I was in
Dallas it was my brothers he’s five
years older so I took his driver’s
license he could never find it and that
was my fake ID so I would take that and
I would getting it in clubs and stuff
and I went to this club over on Martin
Luther King Boulevard called city lights
I went in there and they’re having a
talent contest I had no idea and and my
buddy says man you should get in there
and do that because I come from
breakdancing era I
grew up to like Parliament Funkadelic
Rick James Zapp Roger Troutman what were
some of some of the movies right beep
streets free turbo ozone the whole wave
and everything and I had the mirror but
I had a breakdance crew so I was 14
years old and I would go to the mall and
I would spin on my head and I’d make 40
bucks a day chased the girls around the
mall eat some pizza have some change
left over and that was more than all the
rich kids could get from across the town
Wow and and I loved doing it so we would
go out every day big ghettoblaster
piece of cardboard right went right at
the most busy door where people coming
in and out and it was the greatest thing
ever got really good at it just by
having fun and then we got underage keg
drinking parties and all the high
schools would come together and we would
you know keg parties and we would battle
each other from other schools like rap
beat boxing and breakdance and this was
cured this was balanced this is Dallas
Texas got it and I was at our L Turner
high school and in Farmers Branch not
Carrollton barber people thought I was
from Carrollton because that’s more
where the richer people live and what a
blast I had at that school so we would
go to Preston wood mall which doesn’t
exist anymore the Galleria does we would
you know but it was even before that
there was I mean it was the most amazing
breakdance movement ever and that’s what
influenced me and that’s where that’s
why when it was time for me to sit down
and and write music that that’s what
influenced me so that’s what was going
to come out so I was heavily into poetry
even before the music which is kind of
everything kind of tied together and
then drove me in that direct how did
that happen how do poet poetry happen
with you poetry came in and I was
horrible in English and horrible in
school in in English but somehow I just
related to poetry more than anything on
the planet even until even to this day
everything is poetry with me like I can
give you thousands of dollars with the
therapy by just saying a few little
phrases that’ll change your whole
mindset like yesterday’s history
tomorrow’s a mystery that’s so you know
I don’t have to sit down and tell you
everything about it just think about it
a little bit or we are who we are
because of who we were or just all this
comes from poetry you know from Edgar
Allan Poe dove all the different poets
throughout life
I always just gravitate some soon as a
kid you were gravitating towards poetry
always so is that what led to writing
the song or how did that it led to
definitely to writing the song and make
me who I am you know because I wanted to
express myself and then the influence of
the hip hop culture movement had that
influence in me and then the poetry and
it was only natural that I write and do
the way at what I did you know I didn’t
know any other way of doing it you know
who had the most influence at that time
with the hip hop culture cuz 1990 who’s
around in 1990 this is pre Dre Tupac
this is pre this is pre those guys yeah
right yeah I was uh I was at that club
citylights my set my buddy says man get
up on stage get into this talent contest
this is no way man
he says get up on stage I said okay and
I did it and I thought it was gonna be
like a joke because I’m kind of a
jackass you know like before jackass I
don’t take anything too serious so I
thought I’d get up there he kind of
dared me you know I was a daredevil guy
I raced motocross and all that I’ll do
it whatever I’m definitely not scared so
I did it and I turned it out man and I
and when I got off stage I went to the
bar and these guys were passing me cards
hey man I’m with Capitol Records
I’m with all these record companies EMI
you know everybody was in the house and
then and I was I don’t believe any of
them cuz I’m in the hood I mean this is
straight hood and I’m like you guys just
printed up some business cards and
you’re just trying to you know come up
here to get the females and hang out
right I’m not buying it you would not be
here if you were with this record
company you wouldn’t be in this spot I
got one card man and it was Ichiban
records out of Atlanta and I landed a
small record deal with Curtis Mayfield
who was on the label at the time and I
sold like 40,000 copies of Ice Ice Baby
and then and then it was picked up by
the majors I was only 16 when I wrote
that song so it’s incredible it was 19
when it when it blew up so when it blew
up it it took on a life of its own and
you never know because I don’t have like
a favorite song out of all my catalog I
don’t say oh that’s my favorite one it’s
you know your your fans picked you you
don’t pick them so that’s so strange
that’s the part like how do you you
even know this thing was gonna take off
the way nobody could predict what
happened what was it was there and like
you know today they talked about this
video went viral that video went viral
this movie went by this campaign went
was there a single event a radio show a
concert and endorsement that somebody
played was it an LA thing was it a New
York thing what happened for it to go
viral the way did well it takes people
to gravitate towards it and I think the
song is more than a song and I think it
became an anthem almost to the point
where it surpasses number one hit song
and it just takes on a life of your own
becomes an anthem when when people
listen to the song and they remember
like a photographic memory who they
dated in high school what kind of
clothes they wore maybe they ripped out
their backseat and put in subwoofers and
they can play this song and it all comes
back without going through the metal
album so it reaches a level of like
beyond a number one hit song because
there’s been number one hit songs from
here to then that you probably can’t
even remember you’re like oh yeah that
Mariah Carey song that was number one
you know okay you know but you don’t it
doesn’t really impact your life I think
that it impacted people’s life with a
movement of pop culture and I think the
pop culture in the fashion together
really defines a certain generation and
so that kind of is the anthem Ice Ice
Baby and the ninja rap are the anthem of
the 90s what what was special about what
you did is you were able to get because
at that time you know hip-hop typically
the people who listened to hip-hop
it wasn’t Caucasians you know it wasn’t
like you know I would have any white
audience at all when I came when I came
out I opened up for ice-t stats a sonic
EPMD sir mix-a-lot I was on the stop the
violence to her right
my whole audience was always black and
that’s just rap music that I thought it
was always gonna be that way I didn’t
think it would ever change and that’s
who I catered to and that’s what I did
and they accepted me and it was the
greatest thing ever and I just that was
I was fine with that but when I say it
took on a life of its own
about the time when I was the opening
act for MC Hammer and that’s when
everything just went I started seeing
white people come to my shows more and
more and then I seen blacks whites
Puerto Ricans Mexicans and every other
everybody in the world started coming
and I was just like wow this is not rap
music cuz I’ve never looked at rap music
as a color I’m not a white rapper by the
way I’m a rapper you know you don’t you
don’t label
music with colors it’s made for your
ears not your eyes so I never compare
anything or even think about that issue
and it’s never been an issue with me I
reflect and in my the music that has
influenced me yeah well what I would I
see would what you did is it’s almost
when when Tiger was an african-american
golfer and you’re like wait a minute
now a Middle Eastern guy like me is
interested in golf I would have never
paid attention to golf you came in and
in that time you got people that maybe
never looked at hip-hop because the
biggest record prior to do was sold was
who was at half a million records yeah
half a million records like Beastie Boys
Run DMC which was the biggest rap
selling records of all time and then and
then all a sudden my record sells 163
million a Honda 63 million and it’s like
twenty five six years old right now and
last year it sold 3.3 million my first
record to the extreme sold 3.3 around
the world last year it’s crazy how it
just keeps going and going but you know
I don’t know how to explain things but I
think that by analyzing it myself I
think that in a funny way that it’s all
connected to the Ninja Turtles funny as
it sounds I I think that because the
generation of the Ninja Turtles is
really huge you know it’s like our age
and then the kids today are still into
it so they can be like cool to their
kids you know like you like the Ninja
Turtle so did I you know and we have
this bond and I’m connected forever
through Kevin Eastman and all the Ninja
Turtles and everything it’s a culture
and it’s it’s huge and it goes around
the world people forget that that movie
was big in Russia it was big an Iran it
was big enough games down in every place
that you could imagine that you would
never imagine it’s big there and Ice Ice
Baby also traveled through all those
avenues and went through over every
hurdle to get to two countries that have
never considered listening to rap music
not just America because the movement
started in America and it opened up all
demographics and it basically created a
life of its own and became an anthem and
I’m honored man I mean because it
reflects the 90s
and the 90s was the last of the great
decades and the reason I say that is
because of pop culture through music and
fashion if you think about it right now
they call it the Lost Generation because
from 2000 to 2017 there’s a gap of 17
years and they call it The Lost
Generation because nothing defines it
hmm and if you look back a hundred years
from now and you look at from 2000 to
2017 the only thing that defines it is
computers an iPhone iPhone came out in
2004 the laptop came out as computers
the computers were so big and they still
are right now that nothing is is making
an impact with fashion right now all my
kids and every kid you see is wearing
the same stuff from the 90s high tops
neon colors the same stuff we wore in
the 90s I mean listen we got our movies
at Blockbuster bro yes we did 20/20 on
blockbuster we didn’t have no 1080p or
snap crap or Instagram right we had flip
bones
remember we come from flip phones when
simple life was simple and it was just
like oh look at this man my phone flips
and you had to text like you know five
times to get like the number seven to
say an M or something right now it was
written in our time was pagers right our
time was a pagers camera phones you know
you got those big brick phones right but
but we come from us you know we used to
dance in the 90s we danced in the 90s
was just such a great decade it was the
whole last big pop culture movement you
go in the mall today you see everything
90s they’re coming out with a fanny pack
again everything know about fanny packs
they wear Wayfarer glasses now I’m like
come on man they can’t come up with
anything new because how are you gonna
wear a computer how you gonna wear the
iPhone look it doesn’t make a
pop-culture impact it’s an interesting
movie make it makes pop-culture impact
because music affects people through
their through their memory yeah you can
play a song no matter how old it is and
you’ll remember something when that song
comes on you remember who you were
dating in high school right kind of
clothes or shoes you had
you’ll know what kind of car you drove
there are certain songs that make you
happy instantly I think about Will Smith
you know summertime you know how that
song comes you just kind of go in good
mood
mono Jordan this is how we do it and
then yeah no matter when you play Ice
Ice Baby there’s something that happens
seeing everybody who triggers yes it
triggers something so so so this happens
you go you’re selling a million records
a day it’s one fire and then all of a
sudden you’re getting some controversy
that’s coming out you got the gig with
our senior hall that is going on there
and that was kind of an interesting
interview the way was done and
afterwards he says he had a bad day that
day and he got pressured because he had
some misinformation so he was upset at
you right whatever was going on there so
tell me about the next part because here
you are you’re everywhere magazine cover
magazine TV news concerts and then BOOM
here comes David Bowie Queen you know
under pressure how did that go about
well you know when you’re pushing down
walls and breaking down barriers and
jumping over hurdles and you’re selling
more records than anybody in the world
people are gonna come at you from every
angle to try to get the money or try to
cause you know conflict or looking for
stories to create ratings and all kinds
of things so they create all this
stories and all this media hype around
me because I’m the center of attention
so when you’re a center of attention and
the world would rather hear you know
more negative stuff than posit you know
though that’s so it just kind of takes
on a life of its own
for me I was young I didn’t know any
different I just rode the wave and the
way I look at it is it’s like a snow
globe it gets shaken up you know what I
mean and this thing is just all over the
place I’ve read so many different
stories about me I don’t even know what
to believe but it’s it’s amazing how you
can leave such an impact that people
have all these different opinions in
conversations about you you know and
what what’s the truth what happened
there with the the under-pressure song
right under pressure was basically a
sampling I sampled the under pressure
song David Bowie and queen and I stole
my brother’s record collection cuz he
moved out with
girl and it was all collecting dust in
his closet and I pulled out a few
records you know and I’m like Oh put it
on the turntable and I had a sampling
machine I had two 808 a 9:09 an 808 and
a Roger Linn MPC 60 yep so I sampled
ding ding ding Diggy ding ding right and
I’m like oh and then I put the beat
behind it me and my DJ earthquake cut it
up put it in the studio on a 16 track
not even 24 track and this studio was
made for singing jingles we had to
convince this guy that we were going to
go places and do things so give us some
studio time because we couldn’t afford
it we were broke and he goes oh I don’t
know about this that’s expensive to make
a record you know not like today where
everybody’s got a home studio so we
convinced him you know I must have
busted a rhyme to him or something I
gave him a rhyme and he was just like
wow that’s pertinent Cole you know and
go ahead go on my ears my studio label
back you know so we got to work till you
know 6:00 every day and after that you
can come in at night and do your thing
boom I put it in there man I made the
whole record to the extreme and yeah
sell the million records a day this
thing came out I went on tour and then I
went on my own world tour through
America first you know and then and then
when I when they said you’re going to
Europe you’re going to London and you’re
playing Wimbley arena sold out you know
and now we’re going to Russia and I’m
started like what now you’re going to
everywhere in the world from into
Indonesia to China to Asia everywhere
you could hit on the entire world and
I’m like this is rap music do these
people know this nope but they will now
they know your song and I go to Germany
and I meet these these kids who are
speaking broken English and they say I
learned to speak English on your song
what is a gauge in a9 some of the words
with the slang they didn’t understand
you know but they lay they rehearsed it
and they learned it through the music
and I was just so so fascinated by this
because I never knew the impact of what
I wrote down sitting in my living room
right there you know
would ever make that big of an impact
and boom so I guess I get samples since
my record was really blowing up they
came at me at it with a lawsuit
obviously for sample clearances sure I
didn’t clear any samples you know I just
did the same thing that had been done
way before I came along in rap music but
the difference is Hamid very common I
mean I didn’t invent sampling that’s a
part of rap music shoreless to date they
do it today I’m done Puff Daddy
although gets away with it for all the
heat that I took from it what happened
was is that you know everybody who did
it before me wasn’t getting sued because
they didn’t sell any records to get sued
so a lawyer says there’s no money there
who cares whether it’s a Beastie Boy –
Run DMC or whatever it didn’t matter and
now that I’m selling a million records a
day they’re like this is money this is
sampling so you know they went after it
so they opened up an entire building in
New York City called sample clearances
an entire building hundred floors and I
was like just because me just because of
the impact of my record and so yeah I
went through a lawsuit and instead of
you know going through court and
everything I settled the thing you know
and I ended up buying a buy-in the song
so I actually own a good portion of
under pressure so under pressure is my
song and Ice Ice Baby as my song you
won’t want a portion of London oh come
on depressions and I’m gonna be getting
good check oh yeah yeah so under
pressure was in the cartoon sync and it
was in the movie girl-next-door you
don’t matter either way I’m getting –
unbelievable so I learned about
publishing by that you know cuz Michael
Jackson owns the Beatles publishing and
all that so I bought some of my
publishing back and trying to put a
whole two catalogue together it’s not
easy to buy publishing but that’s the
real money that’s where it’s at you know
so here’s my question for you next
because ok sampling so what the
controversy was dead then the
controversy was you know is this guy
real tough guys he not a tough call ok
no problem I mean they’ve said that 50
get shot nine times if this guy gets
shot up the DMX do this this is very
common controversy that happens but at
that time when it happened – it seems
like you were the first guy where they
went to with
this side of the story right so my
questioning would be my thought process
is how different would it have been if
1990 was 2017 with access to today’s
social media think about oh yeah device
came out today in 2017 how many
followers would you have had on
Instagram how many on Twitter how many
on you know snap you know would that
have allowed for your career to
continuously continuously grow or would
it have been what happened to you back
in the days in 1999 without it it would
have been a huge impact either way
because a great song is a great song and
you could release that song a huge
impact no matter which way it’s released
that’s all I mean of them big it all
starts off with the song if people can
analyze it in so many ways that it
becomes confusing and complicated and
it’s really it’s not rocket science it’s
more simple than that the honest truth
behind it is a great song is a great
song no matter who wrote it or what it
is or how it came from or anything about
it but the 90s had such a movement you
know before social media and everything
so people really believed some of these
rumors like NWA they really thought they
were gangster I did I was opening up for
him and when eazy-e came down the
hallway I stood up against the wall go
here he comes here he comes hi I was
scared of him cuz I really thought they
were doing drive-bys and you know and
all this stuff but later on we find out
you know cuz you know I I knew
personally first of all because of the
sugar night thing because of all the the
you know III contributed to mm I’d was
so Suge Knight may have been a gangster
guy but yes maybe not musicians were not
so gangster like people think so they
called him studio gangsters you know of
course because if they really would
would advertise that on a record they
wouldn’t be very smart would they and
they go to prison right away it’d be
like oh you just told everybody you
murdered people
what will let’s investigate you from the
FBI oh you did let’s go to prison so
like bobby schmurder he actually said it
he wrote about it he did it now he’s in
prison you can’t do that so the studio
gangster thing came out in the 90s you
have some people who did and dabbed in
the streets and he lived around it so
they wrote about that yeah and that’s
kind of what happened
more more like reporters of it but they
would they when they reflected it
through their music you would think that
they were the ones actually doing it
like ice-t was one of the originators of
it you know and I know he’s seen some
gangster stuff around the streets
because we all know Compton and watts
and we know the streets that they all
grew up in but I don’t think they were
the ones that were actually physically
doing it and I know all of them anyway
and I knew Tupac when he when he had a
little high top fade and he was really
friendly you know and then all of a
sudden he started getting more into the
streets and in reflecting kind of what
he saw in his environment growing up you
know what I mean yeah and he became like
a reporter so to speak to his
communities in his environment and stuff
that he’s seen through his life and
people could read that through his music
he’s a genius at it all of them were so
so I look at it from the outset er I say
as a fan right obviously I’m not in that
world I look at as a fan Tupac died in
96 I’m class on 96 so I grew up you know
in this side and in LA and so what I
look at on your strengths is you guys
are very creative your brain goes a
million miles a minute like I just ask
you right now are you OCD when I looked
at your garage yeah like this guy’s a
super organized guy the way you are you
said yes I’m super OCD and helps you on
the real estate side yeah it is there a
part of it that you think were you guys
when I say you guys I categorize a
creative community you can adapt to new
trends which could be where you came out
with your music that you had and in your
second album that you came up with was a
complete shift of what your original one
was and that one didn’t work out as good
as the first one you think there was a
part of it where you felt like the the
marketplace was telling you ice shift
Rob you got a shift you got a change in
to go to this do you think that’s what
it was or Deeping was just I don’t care
about all that stuff I never think about
outside influence I write my music the
way I ride it I’ve had people try to
pressure me to make new records and do
things and I won’t do it it’s more like
a to me I hold it more sacred it’s more
like a diary and I’ll write my diary
when I feel damn good and well to write
it and I’ll do it the way I want to do
it and I’ll reflect it the way I want to
do it
everybody wants to come in and try to
take over the wheel and steer you in
this direction or this direction that
how it was where you were going through
it but when I when I started off when I
when it blew up I I I trusted these
record companies and everything and they
created these things called BIOS I
didn’t even know what the word bio meant
I thought it was biodome the movie you
know I didn’t know anything about this
sure by oh yeah no I was only kidding so
I look at it like it’s a snow globe and
it was all shaken up but it was it was
definitely such an impact that it really
was confusing to me more than anybody
because I was just like wow the impact
of them trying to change you or to
direct you they try to change me with
BIOS that they wrote because they wanted
to clean up my act because now I’m
catering to a younger audience what I
wasn’t yes so so they created this image
of how I look how I dress and you know
try to turn me in almost to like a teen
star and they did actually Amazon teen
magazines and everything tube because I
had such an impact of a broad scale
audience for rap music they’ve never had
this happen drummer so there was nobody
before me I have the first hip-hop song
to ever go number one on pop station
first ever and it’s it’s it was just
unchartered territory so what happened
is is that you know Eminem can use my
career as a guideline on what to do what
not to do but nobody could I could I
don’t have anybody to look at try me
so I I trusted these people just to
their the record company they must know
what they’re doing I’m selling a million
records a day my bank account is huge go
ahead what are we doing next I became a
puppet that’s exactly what I was asking
that so and I didn’t want to be a puppet
after I realized some of the
consequences of being a puppet I was
like wait a minute isn’t it this so what
happened is is this snow globe
kind of settled and then I realized that
it was artificial almost everything is
artificial in fact all of the music
industry to me but I started to get a
real good focus on it not what the
public sees but what what I see as an
inside person living it right
it came in focus and it became
artificial like it’s not a real world
like you think of Justin Bieber you know
he goes around he pees on old men off
bridges he drives Lambert
and does drugs and whatever he does you
know you hear all these stories and
nobody cares about his new record at the
time they care more about you know TMZ
and what he’s doing you know with crazy
stuff and how he basically
self-destructs so people were focusing
now on how Vanilla Ice is gonna
self-destruct all this huge Fame and and
all this stuff you know so how is it
gonna collapse
oh my god I’m interested now so talk
about that so now all that pressures on
you yeah everybody’s prepared for you to
collapse yeah you don’t have like a
eminem had a Dre you’re 50 a 10mm or you
know somebody has a mentor that’s giving
them direction you’re just kind of
coming about yourself out of that alone
man and you’re making this work
what the hell you thinking at this time
like how are you probably scatterbrained
and and that’s what I was saying so what
happened is is that I had a weekend it
lasted about three years and then it and
then a snow globe settled and then I
figured it out you know what here’s the
truth all this the red carpets the the
screaming fans the traveling everywhere
is all artificial and then there’s the
real me there’s me so the media the fame
everything is artificial it’s not real
it’s a part of my life because that’s my
career my job now but it was really just
a passion I didn’t think of I got a job
I got a career I’m gonna make money
doing this I never did it initially to
make any money or have any fame it
wasn’t my purpose or my drive my drive
was to create a diary and write some
songs using poetry to just basically
reflect everything of my environment
that I’ve seen in my life and grew up
you know my life it wasn’t ever meant to
be what it was and it took on a life of
its own and when that happened I’m the
only one that’s on the wave and that
wave was so big it was like a frickin
tsunami and I’m surfing that thing man
and I’m surfing it all the way and as
you know and I know every wave has to
hit the shore so that wave hits the
shore and crashes and most people right
there is where all the cameras come over
when you hit the shore and they go oh
it’s self-destructing what’s he gonna do
turn the drug
suicide joined the 27 club where are we
going now let’s see all the lies on this
let’s throw darts at him let’s say this
and that he’s just a product on the
shelf we pull off and we’ll use him for
ratings you know let’s polish up the
Suge Knight’s story oh he hung him over
a balcony now oh really okay you know
it’s crazy stuff just comes out so I
learned how to differentiate that
there’s a real person still in here and
I had to find that real person and I had
to separate it from that artificial
thing and it was basically going back to
motocross racing and hanging out with my
real people and you know it was some one
of the greatest things ever and I
learned how to you know and then I had a
family and I’ve created my family and my
kids and then I realized that we are all
the same around this entire world we’re
all one and once I became this super
positive person I became Who I am and I
love spreading positivity because I
believe this is this is it man this is
all we get we go from start to finish
make it the best don’t take anything too
serious smile more through life I don’t
care if it’s economy religion your job
your family your relationship don’t take
anything too serious including yourself
enjoy life guys man
when we die game over make it a game
make it fun once you find a purpose
that’s better to live for than yourself
then you’ll realize that’s the meaning
of life is to have family and friends
because I don’t care what you have how
much Fame you have how much money you
have you could be driving all the
Bugattis Ferraris everything you want if
you’re alone you’ll trade it at all of
it for you know some green stamps and a
family and friends because the family
and friends are gonna treat you a lot
better than your money and your fame is
and they’re gonna be real with you and
they’re gonna give you more happiness
more smiles more love more more life
than any of the rest of it so it’s it
was a lesson that was you know taught to
me through basically consequences of
life so so that’s that’s that’s intra
it’s great to see where you’re at right
now with the project you’re working on
but a couple questions while you were
going through your career any any unique
to Park stories or experiences you have
that maybe people haven’t heard from
your point of view because you hear
these stories with Tupac and you hear
the guy had so many multiple
personalities one minute it could be a
happy guy one minute he’s talking about
revolution one minute
wants to go out there and be a player
one minute he’s got a temper
who was to puck to you when you had an
experience with them well I know to puck
I knew him well and he was a great guy
he’s very very welcoming he had a big
heart a big heart and the greatest thing
about him was his talent he didn’t even
really know he had the talent that he
had he had a way of absorbing everything
that he would see through life whether
he lived it or not he would absorb it
and then he had the talent to bring it
up somehow in a subconscious while he
was in some sort of environment a lab we
call it maybe up in the mountains
Malibu who knows where he wrote you know
but somewhere a Zen moment like a rider
would you know hibernate somewhere Tupac
had a way of taking all the absorption
and all of it and putting it into song
forms which were poetry he was a poet
and that’s I don’t even think he knew
what a great poet he really was and a
lot of people can have those influences
and they just they come in and they see
things that happen to him but they don’t
have a way to absorb it to where it
comes out in their subconscious when
they’re writing and I think he could tap
into anything at any creative time
whatever he was thinking about and write
about it in a creative way in an
entertaining way and if he was sitting
there talking they’re thinking about how
he got here and being respectful to
having money and fame he would go into
his mom and he would talk about his mom
and he would write about his mother dear
mama I can still get goosebumps
listening to that song at that time you
know what I’m saying yeah so he had that
talent man that he didn’t even know he
had for me I got a I got a really tap
into that creative juices you know I
can’t that’s why I won’t just go make a
record for the sake of making a record
look walk some studio time I’m going in
to make a record it becomes artificial
at that time for me I want to make it a
chapter of my life I want to make it a
part of something you can really look at
it and say and feel where I was at at
that time you know you tap into those
emotions and that’s the greatest thing
about music is that if you can you let
your emotions out through your records
they become less artificial and more
real and people relate to it a lot more
I did a song a record called hard to
swallow and it was my therapeutical
record I did it with Ross Robinson
produced Korn Limp Bizkit and all these
great acts it needed to be this for me
and it wasn’t because I was trying to do
rock music or any kind of other thing
than being orchestrated by this type of
music because of what had happened in my
life
Ross Robinson came to me I didn’t come
to him
I didn’t search this direction out and I
didn’t think it would sell 10 copies and
it ended up selling 5 million copies
underground with no promotion no MTV
videos no social media just word of
mouth oh my god did you hear this
Vanilla Ice record they would play it
for people and I remember hearing
stories that people say I’m gonna put
this CD in and I’m gonna jam this thing
and I’m gonna crank it up now you tell
me if you know who this is they never
could guess it and they said I don’t
know who it is but it’s freaking awesome
let’s hear it again and then they’d say
that’s Vanilla Ice I mean I keep that
hell out of here that is not vanilla ice
and it is because of all the things that
have happened in my life you know they
were trapped in me and I needed to get
those demons out and so the
orchestration of every dark thing that
had ever happened in my life needed that
kind of orchestration behind me to
release to release it and to make it
real and and fit and and that record is
the most realistic I’ve ever wrote you
to me Wow
cuz it was a diary man and I got those
demons out and ever since I made that
record I’ve been happy music like I
listened to some of my music but some of
it like that record I can’t listen to it
I won’t be into it I won’t because I
Irie tap into some negative thoughts
that have happened in my life that I
don’t want to relive so I got them out I
don’t want them back you know what I
mean so if I listen to that I will start
thinking about where I was at in that
time I have a song on there called scars
I don’t want to hear it I have a song
called a DD I don’t want to hear it it
makes me depressed and I was depressed
at that time and that’s why I wrote it
you weren’t I was depressed got it and I
don’t want to be that I’m so happy now
because I got it out of me and that was
a therapeutical record and I never
thought music could be so therapeutical
I thought music was meant to make people
dance and be happy and
fun but with my music you know I always
took it so serious and then you know
with the image and then the record
company taken over with everything
making it cater to a younger audience
and fitting kids and demographics and
everything it kind of overpowered some
of the words in the music but if you
listen to all my music I tell stories
I’m not a rapper that goes out and goes
hey pump it up pump it up go go get it
get it let’s dance dance dance and I’m
really you know and some of those songs
are good just if you want to dance the
stuff but if you listen to my music it
really does tell stories every single
one of them you know if you listen to
Ice Ice Baby it’s a story from start to
finish rolling in my 5.0 rag top down so
my hair can blow shave with the gauge
vanilla with a nine you know eight ball
that’s cocaine man that’s not bread
eight year old kid so the image
overpowered it gauge is a 12 gauge nine
is a nine millimeter I’m sitting here
dancing and singing like it’s the like
I’m Justin Bieber all of a sudden and so
in teen magazines and I’m going does
anybody listening to the words Wow
so it took on a life of its on that even
surprised me I’m like wow I was never
get up to be any of this I was never put
in a position to say let’s practice
before you do this or I was just thrown
out there like a piece of meat to a pack
of wolves and let’s see what comes out
and let’s see what comes out so you
transition from there when I asked about
to Park in the fact that he was a
storyteller that you are also kind of a
storyteller yourself was was there a
moment with Tupac that you yourself
would cherish forever did you guys have
a moment where you say this was one
moment one conversation I had with him
that I will forever remember this yeah
he’s very he’s got a lot of wisdom and
he actually he gave me some wisdom some
things that I don’t feel like talking
about honestly they’re personal to me
and I’ll hold them dearly forever great
guy he gave me some wisdom but I also he
what was what made him real cool to me
was that he says he says I gave him some
wisdom you know these are some personal
things that would stir up a lot of
controversy out there so I’m gonna keep
him to myself because they’re personal
but that’s exactly what they were meant
to be personal it was me and him in a
common conversation that was brief but
but very impact
schulte in my life and the direction I
decided to go and who I became so I have
a lot of influence myself you know what
I mean
and it wasn’t his music that influenced
me I mean even though he was super
talented but it was more of the people
you know there’s been other people along
the way you know went to a park passed
you know what were you think were you
kind of in the mix where because you
know kid frost has his own opinions of
what happened and you know cube you know
snoop a lot of guys have their own
opinion were you in the mix to kind of
have some idea of what happened or you
had no idea listen nobody would ever
expect Vanilla Ice to be in such of the
gangster mix but yes I was right in the
middle of it I mean when I saw the NWA
movie I saw the part right where I was
kind of inserted I saw I knew them
because I was their opening act
yeah I seen the whole NWA movement and
everything and then and then I knew when
Suge Knight came in and I knew when when
you see I you know that before there was
Tupac the chronic record and Snoop Dogg
that was the insertion of vanilla ice in
the Suge Knight thing because the money
that basically he took went to finance
behind these guys and and by doing that
I I was never bitter I was like wow I
just contributed to some of the greatest
hip-hop music ever invented ever the
chronic record history man that’s
historical well Tupac historical Snoop
Dogg historical they all knew it all of
them knew it everyone knew where it went
and how and had three to four million
right that should got from your summer
run more more four and still going
because he got points off the record so
is he getting it or is the other guy you
know who’s getting the points yeah they
Big E he’s getting it of course you got
a combative Park based on what you think
you kind of is there a way you lean
towards saying this is the person I got
to pocket some say was a blood and crip
thing so crip con is there anything that
you say who got two pucks you have an
idea I got every bit of idea and I will
not say a word man you you’re not gonna
get me there bro you can ask me whatever
you want but I I will hold that one to
my grave brother well I mean
multiple times they come back to the
same guy’s name but it seems like it’s a
probably you’ve got a pretty good idea
let’s tell you this what do you read on
Google I mean it are on the Internet is
is confusing but I think there’s been a
lot of years go by and it’s it’s always
gonna be like the JFK thing it’s always
gonna be until you have the actual
person there and you’ve really locked it
down in the case is closed yeah it’s
gonna be a conspiracy to the end of time
the good thing is there was a lot of
people that witness said they give their
own views the cousin you know I think
the cousins right now making a movie
about it and he’s trying to give its
perspective there’s so many people close
to it that can give you enough idea
something like this there’s a lot of
people that could tell you I doubt any
of them really will and if you find one
that will more power to you man hope
he’s still alive the next day I don’t
know there’s certain things that should
stay private you know I just want you
think this is one I mean I don’t think
that love will fans need to know this I
think they can go find it pretty much
online there’s a they’ve got pretty good
stories online yeah some of the avenues
are artificial and not the right
direction got it but I will say this
truth is out there online already okay
not gonna tell you which one it is
anything I’m not saying anything further
but everything is there it is there okay
so you’ve had some wild experiences in
your life man I mean you were Barbie at
one point which is you know and not many
people can say they had a bar laugh
about it today man I got those balls
collect them now how do you kids feel
about it when they say my kids think I’m
so cool like boy than I think I am
that’s the best thing so you said you
had you had you know the whole Barbie
doll thing I think you know you were top
motocross guy that was competitive you
got a bunch of trophies on the other
side they’re in your garage I think in
one point in 1994 you were ranked what
number six jet skier in the world you
know you did poetry you dated Madonna
you I mean you had some you had a life
what what that’s past tense I have the
greatest life now because you like but
you have
what has all happened the experiences
you had what was the what’s the craziest
experience you’ve had
oh of course unless you give me the
wildest craziest experience oh it
doesn’t only met the blink I can tell
you right now I had this girl that was
uh I guess from a satanic Church because
my birthday’s on Halloween follow my
tour around she had a black trench coat
on she was naked underneath she was in
front of every concert and she would
flash me and my dancers and all like wow
this is cool we were just kids dancing
you know and you think much about it and
this girl I hear this commotion on the
airplane on my way to Japan and I turn
around and they have this girl tackled
on the you know in the jet back you know
about three rows back and I was just
like wow she was screaming and trying to
get to me and I had my bodyguards you
know at the time they I just think it
was another crazy fan I get off the
plane they come in a rest her I’m at I’m
there for a week and a half in Japan and
in my hotel room I got a knock on the
door no one’s there I opened the door
there’s a Satanic Bible with a message
written to me in the in the book I I
pick it up I drop it and I’m like wow
that’s crazy
the next night same thing about 2:00
a.m. another book another story no one
at the door then the night the next
third night I just switched rooms I told
my whole cuz I had the whole floor 52
people on my payroll at the time so I
had the whole floor and switched rooms
with my road manager John Bush and he
goes in there and he he he gets then
he’s waiting by the door just up all
night nodding off but sitting by the
door the knock happens we had some
security guards at the elevator
he opens up the door and he sees this
girl running down the hallway bashing
out the lights down the hallway there’s
glass everywhere and he goes hey guys
stop that girl and then he they stopped
her from the elevator so she she came up
the fire escape because she couldn’t get
up the elevator they wouldn’t let
anybody on the floor she climbed up that
outside of the building fire escape and
came in and they trapped her in the
hallway we went out there and she was in
the in the hallway and she’s like crying
really bad you know a pretty girl and
crying you just
and everybody backed up you can’t have
him
he’s my destiny and she goes and then we
were all freaking out man we’re like
what is going on with this girl man our
hair was standing up on our back and I
we were like a hobo who and then she
would snap in and out of this character
you know and and John Bush is over there
and he’s like trying to from the movies
I guess he saw you know he figured he
would kind of put his hand over her head
and pray and she was trying to bite him
huh
she would say he would say what are you
doing here and why are you doing this
and I don’t mean to do it is I’m so
sorry this is not me I don’t wanna I
must have
and all these crazy things and noises
were coming out of this girl and we
would we were just three I was way back
in the back man I was tripping and she
could see me through everybody and look
at me when she meant this she was from
Ireland or something in Satanic Church
and she was coming after me – I guess
convert me because I’m born on Halloween
which is I guess their holiday or
whatever who knows but he took her down
the elevator and there before they
arrested her they interrogated her they
talked to her and asked her why and what
she was a mental case man they’re out
there there is a mental people out there
and I had nightmares for years I on the
jet ski tour I punched my buddy in the
face we were all sharing the room we had
four guys in a room and I jumped over in
the middle of my sleep for the nightmare
and punched him in the face and he
punched me back and I go why’d you hit
me he goes look at you bro he had a
bloody nose and I was over there and I
had dragged him with the sheets off his
bed and I had thrown him up against the
window and I’m like I did that he goes
yeah you crazy you what’s going on I go
bro I just had my first nightmare I
didn’t think I could have a nightmare
and I and I thought this girl was coming
I had this crazy dreams man and I had
woke up but still asleep and dragged him
out and start beating my friend up
thinking it was some kind of crazy girl
or something Wow yeah we didn’t know
what happened I didn’t even know why who
punched me in here
oh I woke up and I looked around I said
I did all that he was look at his room
you made a mess I didn’t know I could
have a nightmare and I had a nightmare
like that a living nightmare where I
actually acted it out weird that that’s
what that’s 26 years but that’s like
early 90s yeah on like reminds me the
movie Exorcist right no I don’t even
believe in that stuff and yet here it is
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this is from motocross yeah this is just
a few of them this is how I became
competitive because my dad told me he
says listen you just came in fifth place
I come in he goes deaf because you read
your girlfriend’s house all night and
you didn’t practice off there in the
week he goes do you want to settle but
fifth place you got more talent more
speed than the guys that just beat you
you let them beat you why I go I was
trying because I want to hear that you
didn’t try hard enough you go I said wow
I went out I told my girlfriend I can’t
come over tonight I’m over can’t come
over every day after high school her
school just regular school I was
practice practice practice practice
practice
I get out there that weekend every guy
that beat me I won I started women is
right yeah high expectation baby it
pushed me man into a love standpoint
love all I built all of this whole house
from all the ceiling applications to the
fiber optic life but if you want to you
know convert the room over and shut it
you’ll see that everything will
motorized so even your windows turning
to movie posters with breaks everything
shuts yeah the windows turn into movie
posters and you’re gonna you want to see
a cool toilet we put these fancy things
in and this is already a few years old
right no most people have nothing to
show about a toilet but this thing plays
blue – it’s got oscillating pulsating
front cleansing I mean I think it’s a
sex toy where do you keep your exotics
where do you keep some of your cars I’ve
got a couple of them here I’ve got other
houses already said you building a 200
car garage oh yeah I collect the little
cars and all cars actually so Rob how
did you how did you keep your money so I
like that work a lot of you know you
keep your money is you never stop
working good point
you know you don’t just makes a bunch of
money and go oh I can retire or I can
stop because your bills don’t stop they
always accumulate
and they don’t even bigger as time goes
so you just don’t stop working min work
work working get up and go to work some
technology I found it’s really cool this
could solve world hunger this is a it
makes water out of the air so they call
it drinkable air and this is more than
other things I’m showcasing this is a
wrinkle in my show yeah can I have a cup
absolutely it’s delicious mate out of
air there’s no water joke there’s no
water feed it puts water into this it
takes humidity and makes water and it’s
cold it’s cold it’s purified and it’s
delicious anybody else wants on so I got
hit by Hurricane Andrea I lost a lot of
these I had tons of them but if you look
here this one here is this is how it
works this is platinum which means a
million records 1 million sold so you
got 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 and
then you got over here 15 16 17 18 19
there’s 20 million 25 million six seven
went six times platinum in Australia
there’s like 30-something million here’s
another 10 million that’s 50 million
this is 50 I’m showing you certified
right here but it’s a hundred and sixty
three million
Wow first record first one this the one
that sold 40,000 Ichiban records right
there Wow
yeah that’s it right there the only
painting in the world of her like that
the only painting in the world of her
life to get going in just going to go
you go that’s right
never gonna continue forever who would
have thought the Ninja Turtles would
continue forever yes I love this
location and you can see it feels like
we’re in the country and all this land
that I can do whatever I want with
nobody bother me is so total private and
I love it over here at the compound now
the ocean house is cool got a boat and
hang out there but this is the compound
you know mainly it’s a bit more my place
also kind of give you a taste of Texas
like it I got almost I’m in the middle
of billionaire row here and this is
gonna be a head 200 car garage all right
here air-conditioned all this you’re
saying you’re gonna finish this by me
yes the whole thing
yeah I just built a house on the ocean
three acres over here not one person
believed it except for my crew we worked
like ants on a candy bar tell us about
the Vanilla Ice project because you know
you you’ve been you’ve been doing some
real cool stories here I mean people are
saying well I don’t know he had this
side yeah I don’t know he had the real
estate side and then a lot of people
don’t know that for 20 years apparently
you’ve been you’ve been doing this
you’ve been practicing this you’ve been
learning this and now that whole noise
behind us that’s a project you’re
working on apparently she’s saying May
1st at the timeline yeah so tell us how
this came about with the Vanilla Ice
project well the TV show I never really
wanted I didn’t even think about a TV
show I didn’t pitch this I didn’t have
this idea this was Matt Levine out of
New York but the way it worked out was
the TV show is
I’ve been didn’t been doing real estate
for over 23 years I worked my way up
from small homes to middle sized homes
to the huge mansions you see me doing
now so just a lot of hard work you know
getting up early and making things
happen and you know that’s that’s them
drilling right now they don’t do
concrete I went to design school 18
years ago
and I found a passion that I never
thought you could find I didn’t even
expect it or predict it I didn’t you
know when I was doing Ice Ice Baby I
could never say were you gonna be you
know 20 years down the line I never
could envision this so that even shows
me to expect the unexpected you know and
life is gonna take you curves no matter
how you plan it and we all try to set
goals and stuff but if you meet someone
a relationship that can take you off in
a different direction or a job that can
take you in a different direction
there’s so many things that could happen
yeah so I expect the unexpected so I
found a passion that I never thought I
would find and I love it so much I can’t
even tell you man and I get the same
artistic fulfillment out of that as I do
through music you know I really get to
reflect I put my signature on all my
homes I define my homes and to custom
homes that are different than than
anything else in the neighborhoods I’ve
made great money doing this but it’s not
for the money for me it’s it’s it’s art
and it’s just like the music it’s art
and and I create art and I have a hard
time selling them because I can become
attached to them you know I keep half of
the homes and people are like what are
you doing with this home nobody’s living
in it and I go I know I know what are
you gonna do why don’t you sell it
mm-hmm and you know you think of like
that van Gogh he didn’t want to sell his
paintings none of them were for sale
until after he died this is one that I
built you know and I we were having a
Super Bowl party here last night and we
had this place you know with a lot of
people here and we were talking about
you know all my guys have been with me
for over 20 years my concrete guys my
drywall guys my framers your team’s been
with you for 20 20 years well my great
friends they all come from that’s a lot
about you by the way oh thank you yeah
that says a lot about you because if you
can’t keep a team together for that long
yep they’ve seen the good the bad the
ugly whoever it is you’re in business
with oh yeah very impressive and thank
you and and and that’s it I think
building a strong team is is essential
you know and I do now I do speeches and
stuff like this to people who want to
get into real estate or want to just
build a keep a company even any kind of
company and how you can find success in
building any kind of company and I and I
and I pride myself on you know what I’ve
learned throughout the years and I’ve
learned a lot you know I I know how to
build a really strong team
you know there’s thinkers relators
socializers and directors in this world
and you know a socializer like myself
and a director like myself can’t really
do the thinker and the relator thing
which is sit in a cubicle
answer and organize all the paperwork I
have to get up and get out and get in
the world and walk in a room and come up
with the creative ideas but I need those
people because I can’t do it without
them so if I build my team and place
people in the right position by
basically becoming a good judge of
character on what type of person they
are
they are they’re happy because my girl
Angela she’s happy in the cubicle I
couldn’t stand it
she loves organizing and doing file work
and paperwork and all office work and
all this stuff that I can’t do I can but
I have to force myself to do it I don’t
have a thrill she loves it so I put her
there she loved doing that
my buddy Wes Kane he’s the guy that’s
always working really hard he’s my you
know co-star on the TV show with me
he’s a socializer man he’s loud and
proud and you know couldn’t put him in a
cubicle he’s lost so he would be as lost
as if I put Angela in his position so I
know how to position people to build a
successful team and I know you know
there’s a lot of aspects there and and I
learned how to do real estate on my own
by reading books by Robert Simon by
going to borders and and and and sit in
late nights with a cup of coffee and and
just kind of educating myself and were
you always like that or did that is it
pole I know how to learn anything so I
said let me just learn it through books
and so I went to I like coffee I go up
there I sit down by myself I’ve pulled
some books off the shelf and I’ll sit
down and educate myself and and I and so
I started getting into the investment
side of real estate because I definitely
love the creative side and the artistic
side so basically I’m a builder designer
so I designed the interior design as
well as build the entire house yeah but
most of those are two separate people
you have an architect that’s gonna come
in and build the house and that’s just
your frame and then you your walls are
there and they’re all blank and then
your your designer comes in and puts all
the candy or the jewelry or the chrome
or you know all the cosmetics to it I do
all of that both of them I have a thrill
for doing that and then I started
getting into because I used to pay these
designers lots of money and I would
follow them around and kind of intern
and I said oh so that’s how you do it
and then I started looking at dollars
and cents and I said you know what I’m
paying you guys a lot of money and yes
I’m making a profit but I could make a
bigger profit if I excluded you guys and
did what you’re doing myself now
everybody thinks they can become a
designer if they have money but you
can’t let me tell you right now I
thought I could until I went to design
school and then I learned that oh my
gosh everybody thinks
they’re a designer but they’re not you
know what I mean so we kind of parted
about different themes and different you
know from transitional to contemporary I
know even if you knew you gotta have an
eye for an eye and a talent for it but
you have to also understand that you
know color palettes are a big big way to
to cater to demographics if you’re
selling a home
interesting and and you got to do your
your research on what kind of people are
in the area and what kind of income
bracket they are what kind of nucleus
you live around from restaurants to you
know schools and what kind of family is
gonna be buying your home by age
brackets and income so you got to think
of all this and who you’re catering to
you don’t want to make your home for you
if you’re trying to sell it you want to
make it cater to them so you learn about
earth-tone colors throw pillows
fireplaces staging the properties
visuals focal points all kinds of great
things that you would see as a as a
buyer because you only get one time to
make a first impression so I started
getting into the investment side of this
and started looking at the dollars and
how I can build these teams and how I
can really make more profits so I own a
mortgage company now because I learned
how to make money through the mortgage
points and I learned how their yeah
based out of a bedroom open forty-nine
stake of it and and and I have a small
but efficient real estate company
brokerage everything so we do it
in-house and and all my people I you
know I take them on trips and we do live
I am lunch every day my people love me
and I’m not letting this been 23 years
of building this whole thing up to where
it is now Wow and my TV show has been
running eight years of the Vanilla Ice
project so it’s not just here’s a rapper
one day and here you just do in homes I
did this this has been a long time for
you man and and I love it you know so
there’s so many different ways to make
money and and happiness and fun and art
and creativity that I just love it and
it’s got to be built for it it is tough
but you know I lose a lot of sleep
thinking about what I’m gonna do next I
go to Europe to go to like builder shows
so that I purposely stuff that I
introduce on my homes is not something
you’re gonna see on any other TV show
whether it’s a construction or a design
show you’re not going to see it because
I’m going through the far reaches of the
universe I go to Latvia
two builders shows to stuff that you’re
not gonna get on aisle ten in the local
hardware stores here you’re not gonna
find it and then people are always like
wow where did he get that idea where do
you come up with this International
Builder shows I find them everywhere I
lose sleep thinking about it and I’m
just loving to showcase it on my show so
my show is not a flip show it’s a pretty
much a design show really the latest and
greatest in home technology and home
design and even my show has taken on a
life of its own if you watch season 1 to
season 8 it’s it’s evolved and it just
gets bigger and better every season and
as you can see I can talk about this
forever this is my this so you know the
old-school and Tupac and all that that’s
20-something odd years ago and it’s cool
and I can talk about it but I think more
people are interested now with what I’m
doing lately and what I’m doing with it
with the real estate because I have a
lot of top designers and stuff that look
at how I do things and stuff and they’re
my mentors and I I look up to them and
they’re following some of my trends I’m
starting to see a lot of my trends yeah
in certain design features you know and
it’s amazing that I get a chance to
showcase this to the world and we have
over 100 million viewers watching this
show so I’m honored that so many people
gravitate towards it and I think that my
show by what I hear everywhere and
everybody talking has inspired people to
put more money in their house and
because they get it out and happiness
your home is your sanctuary your home is
where you like even after a great
vacation you just go I can’t wait to get
home after your whole long day at work
where do you want to go wanna go home
just like a home you sure you’re not an
entrepreneur at heart instead of just
because because if you would have never
done any music and I didn’t know you and
you just got into business you sound
like a CEO of a real estate company
sound like yeah and it’s amazing it’s
trying to put that identity behind to
see who is Rob versus you know obviously
that identity also helps as well well
you sound like you’re you’re selling
like a pro you’re communicating like I
love what I do man call me I’ll talk to
you so Robert working with what can
everybody see there
for some people that don’t I know
there’s a hundred million people that do
but those who don’t what can they find
it find your show the show is on DIY
Network it’s a DIY Channel pretty much
it’s an upgrade package so if you don’t
get it on your regular basic cable it’s
$12 extra month get the upgrade package
you’ll get you’ll get the DIY Network
which will it’ll blow you away it’s part
of Scripps network so it’s it’s uh it’s
uh you know it’s owned by the same
companies as HGTV DIY Network Cooking
Channel Travel Channel all these are the
same big corporation called Scripps
Networks so get the upgrade package you
can get all these channels and it’s an
amazing thing to show people how to do
it yourself at home where should people
follow you that links always back to the
shows that Instagram you push or you’re
more Twitter guy I do them all man I do
Instagram Twitter Facebook so I’m all
over I got my own website Vanilla Ice
it’s really simple I mean we call it
simple as a pimple at Vanilla Ice so you
can’t get any more simple than that so
we’re gonna put all the links on the
bottom to go visit the project that he’s
working on Rob aka Vanilla Ice brother
waiting for your time really enjoy what
I’m doing at your place man my pleasure oh yeah
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