Dan: Hello and welcome to 6 Minute English.
I’m Dan and joining me today is Neil. Hi Neil.
Neil: Hi there, Dan.
Dan: You’re a married man, Neil. When you were wed,
did your wife change her family name?
Neil: Yes she did.
Dan: Was that her choice?
Neil: Oh yes. She didn’t like her old name,
so for her it was a win-win. How about you?
Dan: Well, my wife wanted to keep her surname,
but was forced to adopt mine
because that was the law where we got married.
Neil: Would you have thought about taking her name?
Dan: That’s what we’re talking about in this
6 Minute English. A husband taking a wife’s
name after marriage. All that,
six related words and our quiz question.
Neil: OK. Let’s have the question.
Dan: In which country has it been forbidden
since 1789 for a citizen to change their name
legally, even after marriage?
Is it a) Japan, b) France or c) Turkey
Neil: I’m going to go for b) France
Dan: And we’ll see if you’re right later.
Now, traditionally in the UK,
when a man and a woman get married,
the woman takes the man’s family name.
And this replaces her maiden name.
Neil: A maiden name is the surname a woman had
before she was married. This all dates
back to the Norman invasion of England, back in 1066.
They introduced the idea that when
a woman married a man, she became his property.
As a result of this, she took his name.
Dan: These days, many women elect to keep
their maiden name upon marriage or combine it
with their new husband’s in some way, sometimes
by making the name double-barrelled.
Neil: A double-barrelled name is two names.
that are connected by a hyphen, such as Jones-Smith
Dan: However, a growing number of couples
in western culture are doing it differently.
When they get married,
the husband elects to take the wife’s surname.
Neil: In a BBC article about surnames and marriage,
Rory Dearlove, formerly Rory Cook,
talks about why he decided to take his wife’s surname.
He said that he wasn’t really attached
to his name anyway.
To him it didn’t make any difference.
Dan: Well, he’s not alone.
A recent study of 2000 UK adults by Opinium,
a strategic insight agency, suggested that one in ten
millennial men, currently between 18 and 34 years old,
fall into this category.
Neil: Charlie Shaw, a Tibetan Buddhist meditation
instructor, who took his wife’s name when they
married last year, said that it was an opportunity
to acknowledge the unseen patriarchal
bias and sexism in our society.
Dan: Patriarchal means ‘controlled by men’
and a bias is the unfair support or opposition
to a person, thing or idea.
Neil: Many traditional societies were patriarchal.
But modern UK society is less like that.
Everyone is meant to be equal.
Dan: Ah yes, but that’s the unseen part.
And there’s the social view of things too.
Rachel Robnett, a researcher at the University of
Nevada surveyed a number of people
in the US and UK, and found that the husbands of
of women who keep their maiden names are viewed
as ‘feminine’, while the women are believed to
‘wear the trousers’.
Neil: If you ‘wear the trousers’ in a relationship,
it means you ‘have the control
and make the decisions for both people’.
Dan: I wondered about that,
so I went out into London
and asked people what they thought
about a man who took his wife’s name
when they got married. Here’s what they said.
Woman: I don’t think it’s a bad idea at all.
My dad’s 55 and he took my mother’s surname.
If people want to do it,
then all the power to them.
Man: It’s each to their own really.
It doesn’t hurt anybody. And it’s no different from
a woman taking a man’s name.
Woman: The only reason I think that anybody
should take someone else’s surname
if just for the creation of a family unit.
But if it’s just out of principle, I don’t agree.
Dan: It seems that the people I talked to
are comfortable with the idea.
Neil: Yes. Most said that people are free
to do what they want. One woman even mentioned
the creation of a family unit.
Dan: A unit is a group of people living
or working together. A typical family unit would be
two parents and some children.
Well, that answers that question.
People don’t seem to mind who takes who’s name.
Neil: Speaking of questions.
How about our quiz question?
Dan: I asked you in which country
it’s been forbidden since 1789
for a citizen to change their name legally,
even after marriage?
a) Japan, b) France or c) Turkey
Neil: And I said b) France
Dan: And you were spot on as usual, Neil.
Neil: Let’s take a look at the vocabulary, shall we?
Dan: First we had maiden name.
This is a woman’s family name before she is married.
My mother refused to give up her maiden name
to my father when she got married.
Neil: Then we had double-barrelled.
A double-barrelled name is two names
that are joined by a hyphen.
Can you think of any famous examples?
Dan: Well, there’s the Duchess of Cornwall
Camilla Parker-Bowles for one.
She’s married to Prince Charles –
next in line to the English throne.
Then we had patriarchal.
If something is patriarchal,
it is controlled by men.
The feminine equivalent is matriarchal,
controlled by women.
Neil: Then we had bias. A bias is unfair support
or opposition to a person, thing or idea.
Dan: Many fans are biased in favour
of their football team.
Then we had wear the trousers.
If you wear the trousers, you have the control
and make the decisions for both people.
Do you wear the trousers in your marriage, Neil?
Neil: Oh, we both wear the trousers in my marriage,
thank you Dan. Then we had unit.
A unit is a group of people living or working
together. Like the BBC Learning English team… or unit!
Dan: And that’s the end of this 6 Minute English.
Don’t forget to check out our Facebook, Twitter,
Instagram and YouTube pages.
And we’ll see you next time. Bye!
Neil: Bye!
I’m Dan and joining me today is Neil. Hi Neil.
Neil: Hi there, Dan.
Dan: You’re a married man, Neil. When you were wed,
did your wife change her family name?
Neil: Yes she did.
Dan: Was that her choice?
Neil: Oh yes. She didn’t like her old name,
so for her it was a win-win. How about you?
Dan: Well, my wife wanted to keep her surname,
but was forced to adopt mine
because that was the law where we got married.
Neil: Would you have thought about taking her name?
Dan: That’s what we’re talking about in this
6 Minute English. A husband taking a wife’s
name after marriage. All that,
six related words and our quiz question.
Neil: OK. Let’s have the question.
Dan: In which country has it been forbidden
since 1789 for a citizen to change their name
legally, even after marriage?
Is it a) Japan, b) France or c) Turkey
Neil: I’m going to go for b) France
Dan: And we’ll see if you’re right later.
Now, traditionally in the UK,
when a man and a woman get married,
the woman takes the man’s family name.
And this replaces her maiden name.
Neil: A maiden name is the surname a woman had
before she was married. This all dates
back to the Norman invasion of England, back in 1066.
They introduced the idea that when
a woman married a man, she became his property.
As a result of this, she took his name.
Dan: These days, many women elect to keep
their maiden name upon marriage or combine it
with their new husband’s in some way, sometimes
by making the name double-barrelled.
Neil: A double-barrelled name is two names.
that are connected by a hyphen, such as Jones-Smith
Dan: However, a growing number of couples
in western culture are doing it differently.
When they get married,
the husband elects to take the wife’s surname.
Neil: In a BBC article about surnames and marriage,
Rory Dearlove, formerly Rory Cook,
talks about why he decided to take his wife’s surname.
He said that he wasn’t really attached
to his name anyway.
To him it didn’t make any difference.
Dan: Well, he’s not alone.
A recent study of 2000 UK adults by Opinium,
a strategic insight agency, suggested that one in ten
millennial men, currently between 18 and 34 years old,
fall into this category.
Neil: Charlie Shaw, a Tibetan Buddhist meditation
instructor, who took his wife’s name when they
married last year, said that it was an opportunity
to acknowledge the unseen patriarchal
bias and sexism in our society.
Dan: Patriarchal means ‘controlled by men’
and a bias is the unfair support or opposition
to a person, thing or idea.
Neil: Many traditional societies were patriarchal.
But modern UK society is less like that.
Everyone is meant to be equal.
Dan: Ah yes, but that’s the unseen part.
And there’s the social view of things too.
Rachel Robnett, a researcher at the University of
Nevada surveyed a number of people
in the US and UK, and found that the husbands of
of women who keep their maiden names are viewed
as ‘feminine’, while the women are believed to
‘wear the trousers’.
Neil: If you ‘wear the trousers’ in a relationship,
it means you ‘have the control
and make the decisions for both people’.
Dan: I wondered about that,
so I went out into London
and asked people what they thought
about a man who took his wife’s name
when they got married. Here’s what they said.
Woman: I don’t think it’s a bad idea at all.
My dad’s 55 and he took my mother’s surname.
If people want to do it,
then all the power to them.
Man: It’s each to their own really.
It doesn’t hurt anybody. And it’s no different from
a woman taking a man’s name.
Woman: The only reason I think that anybody
should take someone else’s surname
if just for the creation of a family unit.
But if it’s just out of principle, I don’t agree.
Dan: It seems that the people I talked to
are comfortable with the idea.
Neil: Yes. Most said that people are free
to do what they want. One woman even mentioned
the creation of a family unit.
Dan: A unit is a group of people living
or working together. A typical family unit would be
two parents and some children.
Well, that answers that question.
People don’t seem to mind who takes who’s name.
Neil: Speaking of questions.
How about our quiz question?
Dan: I asked you in which country
it’s been forbidden since 1789
for a citizen to change their name legally,
even after marriage?
a) Japan, b) France or c) Turkey
Neil: And I said b) France
Dan: And you were spot on as usual, Neil.
Neil: Let’s take a look at the vocabulary, shall we?
Dan: First we had maiden name.
This is a woman’s family name before she is married.
My mother refused to give up her maiden name
to my father when she got married.
Neil: Then we had double-barrelled.
A double-barrelled name is two names
that are joined by a hyphen.
Can you think of any famous examples?
Dan: Well, there’s the Duchess of Cornwall
Camilla Parker-Bowles for one.
She’s married to Prince Charles –
next in line to the English throne.
Then we had patriarchal.
If something is patriarchal,
it is controlled by men.
The feminine equivalent is matriarchal,
controlled by women.
Neil: Then we had bias. A bias is unfair support
or opposition to a person, thing or idea.
Dan: Many fans are biased in favour
of their football team.
Then we had wear the trousers.
If you wear the trousers, you have the control
and make the decisions for both people.
Do you wear the trousers in your marriage, Neil?
Neil: Oh, we both wear the trousers in my marriage,
thank you Dan. Then we had unit.
A unit is a group of people living or working
together. Like the BBC Learning English team… or unit!
Dan: And that’s the end of this 6 Minute English.
Don’t forget to check out our Facebook, Twitter,
Instagram and YouTube pages.
And we’ll see you next time. Bye!
Neil: Bye!
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