peace infinite waters diving deep once
again we have a very special guest
joining us today that’s an
understatement
we have dr. Bruce Lipton he is an
internationally recognized authority in
bridging science and spirit and a
leading voice in new biology a cell
biologist by training he taught cell
biology at the University of Wisconsin
School of Medicine and later performed
pioneering studies at Stanford
University’s School of Medicine he has
been a guest speaker on dozens of TV and
radio shows as well as a keynote
presenter for national conferences thank
you so much Bruce for diving with us
today Rob I am so honored to be on your
program and I just want to acknowledge
my appreciation for what you’re doing
you’re providing the world with new
insights and new knowledge that’s
necessary to take us from this very
chaotic state into a much better world
and so thank you for your work well
thank you and this interview I want it
to be based around the science of
healing and how we can heal our bodies I
love your work the biology of belief
spontaneous evolution and your latest
book the honeymoon effect a lot of us we
feel helpless when we have a disease but
your books are full of inspiration the
question I have for you is do your genes
control your health okay oh absolutely
not and this is a the biggest issue we
have to face because we’ve been
programmed with a misperception about
how life works and I started to realize
this when I was teaching medical
students the nature of what we call
genetic determinism genetic determinism
is a belief that the genes control the
character of your biology and your
physiology and your behavior
and when you teach that what we’re
really teaching is really a very
negative thing because as far as we know
we didn’t pick the genes we came with
you don’t like the genes you got you
can’t do anything about it
and then teach that these genes control
your life and what we’re really teaching
is you’re a victim of your heredity
you’ve got cancer running your family or
Alzheimer’s or diabetes or something
like that and then the presumption is oh
my god I have these genes that cause
these problems and it turns out this is
totally false genes do not cause things
jeans are just blueprints to make parts
to the body and so it becomes very
important understanding is like if you
want to build a house you can go to a
building supply place and so you go into
the plumbing department they’ve got all
these different parts and things like
that and by selecting the parts and then
putting them together in a certain way
you can create whatever you want the
biology is similar in this regard that
the building parts are called the
proteins you use the proteins or a
hundred thousand different versions of
protein so as you assemble them in
different ways you create different
biology now the issue is what is a gene
the gene is a blueprint to make the
protein parts why this is important to
recognize that it is a blueprint is
simple Ralph we go into an architect’s
office and she’s working on a blueprint
and you lean over her shoulder and you
ask or a simple question is your
blueprint on or off as she would look at
you like what are you talking about
there’s a blueprint so on and off and I
want to say this is the most profound
point genes are blueprints there’s no on
and off to a gene they don’t control
their own behavior they don’t cause
things you have to have a contractor yep
that’s someone who say I want these
blueprints to build this thing and when
you understand that then all of a sudden
you realize the genes don’t control
anything they don’t need a gene doesn’t
make a decision to be on or off a gene
is just a blueprint well for all the
years what have we done we’ve given the
genes the power that they decide what
happens to us and it turns out no we’re
the ones that create the genetic act
ribbiting my research from 47 years ago
I was cloning stem cells while I was
teaching this genetic determinism the
medical students my research revealed
that the environment was controlling
genetic activity and this led to a new
science that is called epigenetics now
it sounds Anette accepting genetic
sounds like the same thing I don’t know
it’s a revolution for this reason when I
say genetic control I am saying
controlled by genes that’s the belief
most people have but this new science is
called epigenetic control and why is
that important because epi that little
prefix epi means above so when I say
epigenetic control
I am literally saying control above the
genes well this is the new science and
it turns out that between the genes and
the world in which we live is the
nervous system the nervous system reads
the world and then adjust the biology to
survive in that world so the nervous
system is what reads the environment and
sends messages to the genes well the
significance about that is then the way
we see the world our perception of the
world is really what controls our
genetic activity if I program you with a
belief that you’re powerless that’s your
perception then that belief is
translated by the mind into chemistry
and the chemistry goes into the blood
and that chemistry then goes to the
cells that make up our body and control
gene activity the relevance is very
important epigenetics says look we can
change our perception of the environment
we can change the environment therefore
we’re not victims of the genes we’re the
masters because we’re the ones that are
ultimately controlling the environment
in which our genes are responding why
this is relevant just give you a simple
understanding I put cells in a plastic
petri dish I put the dish in a good
environment the cells grow beautifully
if I take the dish from a good
environment put it in a bad environment
the cells start to get sick and die if
there was a doctor that would come and
look at my cells
your cells are sick we should give them
some drugs and I go absolutely not you
want to sell so be well take the dish
from the bad environment move it back
into the good environment and they will
instantaneously get well again well the
report or the importance of this
understanding is profound because it
says our health is a reflection of how
we read the environment how we interpret
that environment why the interpretation
is an important part because it says
look I could live in the most wonderful
supporting environment that exists but
if I believe I’m a victim or I believe
that people are against me or the
world’s against me my cells don’t see
the real good world out there myself see
what my mind is telling them so all of a
sudden I’m adjusting my cells by my
belief they don’t see the real world and
so here’s a very important simple fact
only about 1% of illness is directly
connected to genes the point
99% of illness is really connected to
how we live in the world how we perceive
the world our lifestyle what we do and
what we believe because our mind is
converting our beliefs in the chemistry
and that chemistry goes into the blood
and that through epigenetics controls
our biology so rather than victims when
we understand the new knowledge we
become masters of our lives we’re the
ones that can change the environment we
can change our beliefs and what we do we
change the world and the concept that
mind controls biology is not a new thing
at all matter of fact almost everybody
in the audience already knows something
called the placebo effect the placebo
effect which is actually responsible for
most medical healing is not due to the
drugs or the therapy offered by the
medical doctor the placebo effect
results from your belief in the drugs or
the therapy that’s why I can tell you
here’s this pill it’s going to heal you
and it’s brand new and it’s all magical
and blah blah blah and take the pill and
you get healed and then later I tell you
was a sugar pill well what’s the
relevant answer with the sugar pill
didn’t heal you
your belief healed you right well most
people say yeah okay I know about that
belief that positive believes the
placebo effect what I want to emphasize
right now Ralph is something more
important it’s not just positive belief
that influences our lives negative
beliefs are equally powerful and
controlling our biology and so there’s a
field of science called the nocebo
effect versus placebo nocebo is the
result of negative thinking and what it
turns out is negative thinking positive
thinking are equally powerful that they
both influence our health in fact
negative thinking fear can kill you it
kills you because of the belief that
kills you the chemistry that comes from
negative thinking so people don’t
recognize it we always talk about the
placebo fact I go that’s great
you understand the nocebo effect
negative thinking can cause cancer
negative thinking can cause any disease
it can kill you and that becomes
important because we’re the ones that
have the thoughts and if we come from
negative thinking which is psychologists
tell us that almost all of our thinking
is negative and that’s part of
programming that if we come from a world
of negative thinking that we will
manifest a chemistry in our body that
does not support our health and in fact
can actually kill you and and this is
why it’s important because people
disregard the thinking and going oh no
my biology is controlled by my genes in
my chemistry and I go no it’s controlled
first by your thinking and this is
important because we have to really
understand the nature that our thoughts
are coming from our mind okay but then I
have to explain this problem because
people think well I had positive
thoughts it didn’t seem to work for me
I was thinking positive and I go okay
let’s get a fact clear that’s so
important Ralph it’s the most important
thing I can tell you our mind is
controlling our biology yes one two we
have two parts to the mind we have a
conscious mind a subconscious mind
we have in the past made a mistake and
that oh that’s one mind you know with
they’re both in the same one mind I
don’t know there are two separate Minds
they have different ways of functioning
and different ways of learning and what
you don’t understand that then the world
seems crazy so it goes like this
the conscious mind is connected to your
spirituality your source your identity
that makes you different than every
other person so every person’s conscious
mind which is the latest evolution of
the brain right behind your forehead
this is a seed of our personal identity
the conscious mind is the creative mind
it’s very important because the
subconscious mind is more reactive
reflexive stimulus-response push the
button get the response push the button
get the response it so it’s Abbot’s okay
the creative mind separated us from
lower animals lower animals can only
make certain responses stimulus response
stimulus response humans with creativity
to make a difference between the
stimulus and before the response I can
create stop and I can change the outcome
so the conscious mind is very creative
and I ask you a question Ralph very
important question I said tell me what
you want from your life you want you
know what is it you really want when you
give me answers such as I want to be
healthy I want to have a great
relationship I want to have a great job
I want to be a good golfer whatever that
means
the whole idea about that is what these
are creative thoughts because they don’t
exist and I’m looking forward into the
future what do I want I’m looking for my
creativity okay so as I’m looking as I’m
being creative the process of my
creative character is coming from my
conscious mind so here’s the point the
conscious mind has your wishes and your
desire center
I say what do you want whatever answer
you come up with I can tell you right
now it’s creative and it comes from the
conscious mind
okay so conscious mind is creative okay
the subconscious mind is the habit mind
not very much creativity it’s push the
buttons play the behavior its habits
you repeat them over and over and over
and over and over again okay problem
before you can be conscious you have to
have programs so you can be conscious of
something I’ll give you a simple example
I’d say look a baby is just being born
and pretend that the baby could speak
just pretend I say okay the baby’s just
thing for it’s coming out of the birth
canal and I say tell me something and
the baby will look up at you go I don’t
know anything I just got here whole idea
is this before you can become conscious
you have to have programs to be
conscious of but giving one more example
well we go to the Apple store we buy new
iPod take it out of the box the little
wheel on the front of the iPod they call
it the click wheel it’s like the
conscious mind why it’s creative make a
playlist select what you want push play
stop whatever you want to do creative so
I say a brand new iPod out of the box
and I say push play then you push plain
nothing happens compete look at you and
they say well what would they say Ralph
how come nothing played okay I have a
day they ask yeah you can’t plaintain to
not have any programs yes
you got to download the program’s first
then you can make a playlist okay the
human mind is the same thing before I
can be conscious I have to have
behaviors and programs I have no idea
about anything until I understand the
world so the first seven years of our
lives the mind is in download it’s in a
state called theta EEG
electroencephalograph brain function
theta is imagination that’s what kids
have between two and seven mix the real
world and the imaginary world you know
you tell the kid hey give me the broom
and the kids riding it that’s not a
broom it’s a horse to the kid it’s a
horse at that moment since the latter if
you see it as a broom imagination most
importantly is this theta is hypnosis
and why is that relevant the first seven
years of your life your brain is
downloading behavior
so you could be a functional member yes
variety in the family you gotta know the
rules that’s what I love about your work
because you talk of the first seven
years and I always share that with my
audience
and the big question many of us have is
how do we start reprogramming the
subconscious Maya
okay so let’s add two little facts and
then we’re going to the reprogramming
part okay okay number one the conscious
mind which is really great and it’s
creative also has the ability to think
and that creates a problem for the
following reason I say hey Ralph what
are you doing next Friday the moment I
ask you that question
you stop paying attention to the current
moment you go in your head and you go
like through a calendar and what am i
doing on Friday you’re thinking about it
right what’s the point the moment you’re
thinking your consciousness is not
paying attention to what’s going on it’s
thinking inside okay so what’s the
problem
ninety five percent this is there’s a 95
percent of our waking hours the
conscious mind is thinking why is that
relevant
it was simple 95 percent of the time
it’s not paying attention to what’s
going on it doesn’t mean you stop if
you’re walking down the street and then
you have a thought you don’t stop and
then have a thought and then go back to
walking again you continue walking or
you’re driving the car you can have a
thought while you’re driving the car but
you’re still driving the car but your
mind is not paying attention so I say
who’s running the show when your
conscious mind is thinking 95 percent of
the time and the answer is the default
program is whatever you start thinking
you switched into the behavior in the
subconscious mind that allows you to
keep walking or keep driving while
you’re not paying attention subconscious
mind is a million times more powerful a
computer than the conscious mind so it’s
very powerful and drive the car without
you thinking about it matter of fact
most of the time you don’t even think
about the drive
it’s all automatic anyway yes well why
is this relevant here’s a simple fact
the conscious mind has your wishes and
desires and what you want from your life
when you operate from that mind you
manifest wishes and desires and what you
want from your life but then we
recognize a simple fact only 5% of the
time are you operating from that mind
because it’s in thought 95% of time why
is that relevant I said well then who’s
running your life the answer is not your
conscious mind with wishes and desires
your subconscious mind with programs is
running your life right right I’m the
childhood experiences we have on the gas
tractor and then I said well tell me
about the character quality of those
programs and I can tell you right now
psychologists will tell you 70% or more
of those programs are negative
disempowering self sabotaging and
limiting meaning when you’re on
subconscious programming 70% or more
your behavior is not supporting it
what’s actually sabotaging you and they
say yeah but but I would see that if I
was sabotaging myself like oh that
that’s the problem why why are you
playing the subconscious program because
it conscious – not paying attention
point that means that when I am playing
the subconscious program I’m the one
that’s not even seeing what the program
is so when I give my lecture and I ask
the audience I said listen go back to a
time in your life where you must have
had a friend you were very close to you
knew your friends behavior very very
well yeah close friend I say but you
also knew your friends parent and one
day you see your friend has the exact
same behavior as their parent so you
know you feel all excited you volunteer
you go hey Bill you’re just like your
dad back away from Bill then we’ll go
totally ballistic and say how can you
compare me to my dad and everyone laughs
cuz they’re all familiar with it and I
go this is the most profound story I can
tell you for a very simple reason
everyone else can see that Bill behaves
like his dad
the only one doesn’t see it is Bill how
does that work an answer simple
he downloaded the behavior from his dad
in the first seven years and it plays
that behavior when he’s not paying
attention so when he’s doing his dad’s
behavior he’s someone that doesn’t see
it and then I go big next point we are
all Bell every one of us every day and
this becomes really important because
our conscious mind with wishes and
desires that wants to take us to a happy
successful healthy world only is
controlling it 5% of the time 95% is
coming from other people and then most
of that 70% or more negative so when on
a day-by-day basis you’re not running
your life your subconscious programs are
running your life and these came from
other people they didn’t answer your
wishes and desires a matter of fact they
limited your ability they disempowered
you this is not a brand new thing really
irritation if the Jesuits would say give
me a child until it’s six or seven it
will belong to the church for the rest
of its life what if they what did they
know they knew if I can get your
programming for the first seven years I
don’t care what you want to be in your
life you’re still going to come back and
be a member of that church what was the
point the program in the first seven
years will ultimately control your life
irregardless of your personal wishes and
desires they already knew if I get to
programming I own your life well this
programming has been the thing that has
kept us from experiencing the true life
on this planet and the movie The Matrix
is a mansion matrix is it’s not a
scientific fiction it’s science fiction
it’s a documentary yes we all got
program we were all program we are yeah
a movie they say well take the blue pill
stay in the program life is exactly the
same way yeah why yeah once you run the
program that’s is your lies they said
but take the red pill and get out of the
program I go Wow what would happen if
you took the red pill and now I can give
you the answer science has found out
when we fall in love we don’t
default to the subconscious we keep our
conscious mind presence that’s called
being mindful well why is it relevant
well if you keep your conscious mind
present and all your behaviors
controlled by wishes and desires and why
is that relevant because if two people
come together fall in love keep they’re
both conscious minds present then what
are they creating they’re creating a
life based on wishes and desires what
did they manifest the honeymoon it was
heaven on earth man it was you were
healthy you had energy you your life was
so beautiful in that honeymoon you
couldn’t wait for the next day get some
more that and and I said well have that
happen the answer was no matter how
crummy your life was up until that
moment that’s when you’re running the
program that the moment you fall in love
it’s like taking a red pill you keep
your conscious mind present there’s a
reason why if everything you were
looking for in your life is in front of
your face why would you start thinking
everything is right there you take it
all in so yeah the honeymoon part
results from you being conscious staying
mindful keeping your conscious mind
present not defaulting to the
subconscious what’s the result heaven on
earth there you go what honeymoon
doesn’t last because it doesn’t last I
said it doesn’t last for a very simple
reason even if you’re in love you still
have to pay the rent fix the car do your
tours whatever it is going to do it
means you guys start thinking again so
how did you create the honeymoon to
people with only their conscious minds
working wishes and desires creating
prime wishes and desires manifesting
heaven on earth then I said what happens
life gets busy you start thinking oh
yeah but the moment you start thinking
you start playing those programs in the
subconscious yeah those are the
limitations those are the sabotage
programs those are other people’s
behavior and all of a sudden why is that
relevant because the behavior you
downloaded from other people doesn’t
represent who you are it represents who
they are you start playing somebody else
that’s when when your partner in your
new romance when you all the sudden drop
into the subconscious start playing your
father’s behavior for example and your
partner sees it remember Bill doesn’t
see that he’s playing his father’s
behavior but the other people do
so your partner is seeing you play your
father’s behavior which is perhaps in
this case negative your partner looks at
you those who are you like where did
that personality come from and then of
course a problem is well you’re the one
it didn’t even see it so how did you
know yours like you’re defending
yourself like I don’t know what you’re
talking about you know what I’m talking
about it always been the good guy you
know it’s like in your conscious mind
yes but the moment you switch to your
subconscious you start playing negative
programs and you didn’t see it but your
partner did that’s when the relationship
starts to get a little tricky and the
more negative behaviors that come in
from both partners the more compromising
you have to do because I wasn’t what you
joined up for you you signed up for the
honeymoon that with two people living
from wishes and desires and all of a
sudden all this other behavior comes in
there’s like about what I wanted
compromise compromise well guess what
the love glow of the honeymoon the
honeymoon experience started goes into
history because now you’re playing more
of your behavior from this negative
database of subconscious programs so the
relevance yeah when you in effect what I
like about the book is that you talk
about the power of attitude in changing
the blood chemistry of the body and how
does one even discover that they have
this power to stop becoming the
architect of their own reality what are
some of the triggers you’ve talked to my
youthfulness when your beliefs start to
take over and run the show such as a
placebo effect you healed yourself not
from a drug you healed it from a belief
and you start to recognize oh my god I
changed my life Wharton you could be
sick as a dog and your boss calls and
says listen I need you on the job and
you’re the hottest setter or something
you go okay but you got to go to work
cuz it’s really important you go to work
and guess what while you’re at work
everything’s okay the moment you come
home it’s like oh god citizen thought
but it was what when you switch your
mind to the job you had to do the power
of the mind overrode the illness
when you came back home and you get to
thinking about how sick you are because
if the sickness came back you were
controlling this the entire time
hypnosis is also a way of controlling
your life because basically the programs
that we have in the subconscious came
from hypnosis when we were kids anyway
so I can hypnotize you right now Rob and
I say look here’s a glass of water on
the table I want you to pick up this
glass of water and but before you pick
it up a sip my weight that glass of
water weighs 1,000 pounds and you go
over to lift up a glass of water and
guess what everyone will watch you try
to lift that glass of water and you’re
clean up these it’s just a glass of
water how come you can’t whip it I said
when the mind believes it’s a thousand
pounds the mind also knows you cannot
live the thousand pounds and so what
does it do it creates a situation where
you will struggle to lift it but you
won’t let that how come and I haven’t I
think the muscles that were lifting the
glass up there’s also muscles to put the
glass down if I fire both muscles at the
same time does the glass go up or down
the answer’s no doesn’t go anywhere but
you’re both muscles are working like
crazy in your solution and everything is
like you have created reality out of
that I’ll give you another example I
have so many newspaper articles some
women picking up cars off of a child
underneath the car specially their own
child they have a woman lift the carbon
weight linzer’s can’t let the car and I
have pictures of a guy acts a couple
weightlifters muscle bound sweat coming
down lifting on the car and here’s a
woman no athletic ability at all lives
up the same car and this is a how can
she do that
the answer is she has no belief that she
can her trials under the cars like you
stopped the mother from lifting up the
car with her child’s under the car her
believe will lift that car and all of a
sudden you mean we are not powerful say
yeah we’re all that powerful except
right now if I say Ralph hey listen go
outside in the driveway
lift up your car
it’s really crazy about the cargo that’s
the belief run good you see and it’s
real interesting there’s some weird
people down in the South that really
mess up in my mind these these are
people who work themselves up into
religious ecstasy I think they get crazy
they speak in tongues they play with
serpents
stuff like that you know like poisonous
things like babble snakes and stuff like
that even when they get it they don’t
have a problem but the ones I want to
talk to better these they call this a
testifying testifying in their
terminology means they will demonstrate
to you that God takes power over then
God
you know protects them by doing things
that no normal person in their right
mind would ever do and so listen to it
they drinks strychnine poison and
testifying a God protects them I guess
what no negative consequences they not
harm they drink straight out poison and
they don’t get harmed wine the belief
system says that this this poison God
will protect like in the supports and
you think wow that’s preempted but it’s
same thing is walking across hot coals
walk across hot coals if you believe in
it but don’t walk across hot coals if
you don’t believe you can do it sure
and so what we’re talking about it the
powerful call of belief is totally
amazing but if I assess most anybody in
our audience about their beliefs most of
their beliefs are very disempowering and
negative and not supporting the food
they are because we got programmed that
way and we manifest thought and program
and so you want to take back your life
you have to go back in and rewrite the
programs right right so belief changing
your belief systems is a great way to
start rewriting the program’s you talked
of the environment as one of the biggest
factors influencing our genes what are
the factors would you say are the most
important factors well there’s a direct
environment that we live in but very
importantly is our perception of
environment as I mentioned earlier you
could live in a healthy environment but
if you believe it’s toxic then you’ll
get sick so wasn’t the environment it
was what your perception was so because
your that’s an interpretation that comes
from your mind
so you know this I I love hot spicy Thai
food I mean I love it so hot that when I
eat it perspiration because I my
remaining follicle somebody had and
drips and I go right you know and then I
make it and my neighbor comes over it
takes a bite in there’s nothing goes
happy to eat just stuff and in like
forty the environments the same for both
of us the same type food and my school
is the same as the one on his phone I
eat in though this is totally fabulous
he said his screaming his head off at
him children and the reality is then it
wasn’t the real Thai food that caused
the problem it was the interpretation
that the person happened same same
stimulus different interpretation this
is the issue of the world in which we
live we’re all in the same state
we’ll have different interpretations and
our world becomes our interpretation
whatever it is I said it’s not the same
as the real world it’s the world that
when perceive and that’s why it’s so
important that change our beliefs first
before trying to fix our lives because
our beliefs which are programmed in our
subconscious are running the shell
ninety-five percent of time that’s
what’s so frustrating the people because
in your conscious mind you know exactly
what you want I want to be help they
won’t always say I know what you want
but the issue is hayfitz only operating
in 5% of time then you’re not really
gonna manifest that you’re getting very
better program well I just want to say
thank you so much for taking the time
out of your busy schedule but before you
go in your great book spontaneous
evolution you talked about some
solutions in healing the planet does
planet Earth need to be saved or is it
just individually we need to save
ourselves
well planners
be here whether we’re here or not and we
are number one premise number two we
have to recognize this our belief about
how the planet works and how we got here
which is like a Darwinian theory which
is you know people even if you doesn’t
go to school you know Darwinian theory
is like the dog-eat-dog world if you do
if you don’t go out there and fight for
your survival someone’s going to walk
all over you and you’re going to lose so
we go out there everyday in a rat race
you know that kind of terminology like
you got a struggle in fact that’s what
the definition of Darwinian evolution is
a struggle for survival
using a competition in Fitness those
that are more thick get to survive and
those that are less than to die off and
that’s what oh yeah is how it works it
isn’t this is not true but by living
this as a believe we have destroyed
ourselves and we’re destroying the
environment because we haven’t
recognized that the so-called garden you
know you say garden represents a world
that is not based on competition a
garden is based on cooperation all the
organism plans in the garden would
together create the garden here we have
a garden to put the humans in it and
then the humans say though it’s all
based on competition so what are we
doing we’re competing against each other
we’re killing each other we’re trying to
disempower each other what I want to be
more powerful than you because if I’m
more powerful than you than I got a
better chance at surviving and all of a
sudden it’s not us working together
it’s me working for myself I don’t care
about you guys I’m going to do me well
we do have a part world of people doing
me and and being very careless about
harmony imbalance of a garden we end up
in a very sad situation which we are in
today this is a truth of science five
times in the history of this planet life
was thriving I mean the gardener’s gone
beautifully and five times in history
life got essentially wiped out and these
events were called mass extinctions
for example the dinosaurs are thriving
and then all of a sudden the dinosaurs
are gone what happened well they believe
in this case and that massive stakes
due to a comet or asteroid hitting the
earth and upsetting the environment and
wiping out life and so historically five
times in history of the planets natural
mass extinction unfortunately in this
the fact of science today we are in the
sixth mass extinction and this mass
extinction is due science as recognized
to human behavior the way we live the
way we undermine each other the way we
undermine the environment the way we go
out there compete is destructive not
just a bus o
our behavior is now destroying the
environment and so we have to change our
behavior in order to survive we have to
recognize that all humans are part of
one living super organism called
humanity just as a body is made out of
50 trillion cells
I say I’m Bruce well Bruce by full
definition means 50 trillion individual
cells living in a community and and this
becomes important because health is when
there’s harmony in the community you got
a healthy by when is disharmony in the
community of cells you have sickness
well what we’re seeing right now is the
recognition that each human you me
everybody on this line as a set in a
bigger organism called humanity the
significance of that is we have to work
together to create harmony otherwise all
things lost well there’s something in
medicine called autoimmune disease that
in Latin is equivalent of
self-destruction humanity as a living
super organism is experiencing what I
would call autoimmune disease we’re
destroying ourselves by killing each
other and messing with each other and
destroying the environment and we’re in
a bad case of autoimmune disease to get
out of this autoimmune disease we have
to change our belief system we have to
recognize that every one of us is part
of the same organism if you hurt another
cell it you’re hurting yourself and
this is the reality we have to let go
that Darwinian belief that it’s me and
I’m against you which is Darwinian
theory because of that has caused the
problem why your show is so important
Ralph Rand wife through I’m very honored
down is that you are offering the public
the new understanding the new police are
required to create harmony on this
planet and harmony within your own
biology remember harmony in your biology
is hell if you’re not healthy only 1% of
that can i tribute you genes 99% of
unhealthy individuals it’s because of
the way they’re living on the planet
their belief system their lifestyle and
why is this important because the
deepest things we can change in the
genes you can change but when you live
you can change the way you believe you
can change so the evolution that we’re
facing is an evolution that says stop
killing each other critter stop
antagonizing each other start learning
to live in harmony with each other as we
work together in harmony we work
together and create community the
healthy community reflects a healthy
organism and and so whether it’s the
community of cells in your body which
reflect your help and remember again
it’s so important cuz when we have
something that you know a health issue
we oh my body is broken my body’s so fit
my body made mistakes I go nah you’re
living in a lifestyle that doesn’t
support the help of the cells and this
becomes relevant because you’re the one
that changes if you change the lifestyle
then you change your help
and so we empower to do that but then
we’ve been programmed to believe know
your victim yeah your victim of your
genetics and your biology you can’t do
anything is like totally untrue but in a
world based on belief if that’s what you
believe then you become the victim and
we really have to change our whole
insight narrow understanding of
victimization because it’s just a self
belief system that is self-destructive
and that we are by necessity creating in
the world and it’s very important
because the young people in this will
which I call the millennial generation
40 years old and younger represent the
new civilization and it’s really
interesting because most of them are
thinking oh my god life sucks I can’t
even you know I’m living at home with my
parents and I’m almost 40 you know it’s
like oh my god I can’t get a job I can’t
get started I go well here’s why it’s
important yeah if I went out to
conventional millennial generation
person I say hey listen the stock
market’s going to crash they think like
that may go what this is all I like I
own the stock like I don’t know stock
what the hell do I care the stock market
crashes make up this is why the
evolution is going to happen 50% or more
of the people which are under now for
you do not have a hole on the existing
structure and that means that the
existing structure is getting weakened
about the fault bear because it doesn’t
work that’s why we have all the problems
we have to change completely the
internet is the evolution of the global
nervous system the internet allows you
and me to talking in different places
while at the same time allowing this
message to go out to millions of other
people simultaneously the Internet is a
nervous system that connects 7 billion
humans which are cells 7 billion cells
into one organism the internet is the
brain that is working through the
cooperative effort of 7 billion people
and so we are now facing a new belief
system new information is coming across
the population has a chance to decide
what it wants
the significance is the Millennial
Generation doesn’t give a damn about the
existing structure it doesn’t work for
them anyway and so they don’t support it
I said well yeah when more than half the
people don’t support the existing
structure it falls down and so we’re in
a state of the system falling apart and
a lot of people are afraid
oh my over the park and I go you don’t
get mad
this system is killing us this system is
what’s bringing about the sixth mass
extinction of life we will change the
system we are definitely doomed
that’s the fact that it’s not 100 or
million years from now it’s in decades
this whole thing shall fall apart and so
the relevance is this when you see it
falling apart honor that for this reason
whatever falls apart can be rebuilt and
replaced with something better and
that’s what we’re doing right now
governments falling apart business is
falling apart
Healthcare is falling apart all of these
things I thought yeah great
they’re not working for us now so the
option is now to build something better
your program now it’s part of building
something better than that’s why again
it’s important to give knowledge to
people because a simple thing and people
forget all their lives knowledge is
power
what they don’t get and this is the one
that the secret part because this is
what kills you a lack of knowledge is a
lack of power we have been deprived of
the new knowledge that empowers us seven
so when we get the new knowledge we
become more empowered we get to take
over the control of our lives we get to
create that anything effect if seven
billion people were living the honeymoon
of Becca the earth wouldn’t look like
heaven the earth would be heaven yes I
think that’s the big joke I tell you
this truth that you know I know I’m
going on here but I want to close with
this because it’s a joke
the joke is this oh if you live well
when you die you can go to heaven and I
want to suggest something totally
different better you were born into
heaven this is you come to create this
is where you come to experience when
you’re dead you leave with the memories
of it but you no longer have the
abilities physical to create – and this
becomes important because why are we
here to create the honeymoon fact to
create heaven on earth only our
programming has taken that away
Wow Frannie I’d rather see the heaven on
earth because if you were living your
heaven on earth and I’m living my Edmund
on earth I know that would just enhance
everybody’s life because each person who
heaven on earth is creating heaven on
earth this is heaven and I just want to
say thank you so much because your work
has changed my life forever
and millions of people out there you’re
doing something which I don’t even think
you comprehend what you’re doing it’s
just phenomenal work really creating
that ripple effect which is changing the
course of humanity for the better it’s
so inspiring reading every one of your
books just leaves me and all but once
again please give out your website to
the audience so they can find your
latest work yes so simple is Bruce
leviton.com so easy and lots of material
freely downloadable that you know to
tell the story that we’ve been talking
about in an abbreviated form on the web
you can get a bigger a bigger story
coverage well thank you once again dr.
Bruce and thank you to everyone out
there we are here infinite waters diving
deep once again stay well stay healthy peace
again we have a very special guest
joining us today that’s an
understatement
we have dr. Bruce Lipton he is an
internationally recognized authority in
bridging science and spirit and a
leading voice in new biology a cell
biologist by training he taught cell
biology at the University of Wisconsin
School of Medicine and later performed
pioneering studies at Stanford
University’s School of Medicine he has
been a guest speaker on dozens of TV and
radio shows as well as a keynote
presenter for national conferences thank
you so much Bruce for diving with us
today Rob I am so honored to be on your
program and I just want to acknowledge
my appreciation for what you’re doing
you’re providing the world with new
insights and new knowledge that’s
necessary to take us from this very
chaotic state into a much better world
and so thank you for your work well
thank you and this interview I want it
to be based around the science of
healing and how we can heal our bodies I
love your work the biology of belief
spontaneous evolution and your latest
book the honeymoon effect a lot of us we
feel helpless when we have a disease but
your books are full of inspiration the
question I have for you is do your genes
control your health okay oh absolutely
not and this is a the biggest issue we
have to face because we’ve been
programmed with a misperception about
how life works and I started to realize
this when I was teaching medical
students the nature of what we call
genetic determinism genetic determinism
is a belief that the genes control the
character of your biology and your
physiology and your behavior
and when you teach that what we’re
really teaching is really a very
negative thing because as far as we know
we didn’t pick the genes we came with
you don’t like the genes you got you
can’t do anything about it
and then teach that these genes control
your life and what we’re really teaching
is you’re a victim of your heredity
you’ve got cancer running your family or
Alzheimer’s or diabetes or something
like that and then the presumption is oh
my god I have these genes that cause
these problems and it turns out this is
totally false genes do not cause things
jeans are just blueprints to make parts
to the body and so it becomes very
important understanding is like if you
want to build a house you can go to a
building supply place and so you go into
the plumbing department they’ve got all
these different parts and things like
that and by selecting the parts and then
putting them together in a certain way
you can create whatever you want the
biology is similar in this regard that
the building parts are called the
proteins you use the proteins or a
hundred thousand different versions of
protein so as you assemble them in
different ways you create different
biology now the issue is what is a gene
the gene is a blueprint to make the
protein parts why this is important to
recognize that it is a blueprint is
simple Ralph we go into an architect’s
office and she’s working on a blueprint
and you lean over her shoulder and you
ask or a simple question is your
blueprint on or off as she would look at
you like what are you talking about
there’s a blueprint so on and off and I
want to say this is the most profound
point genes are blueprints there’s no on
and off to a gene they don’t control
their own behavior they don’t cause
things you have to have a contractor yep
that’s someone who say I want these
blueprints to build this thing and when
you understand that then all of a sudden
you realize the genes don’t control
anything they don’t need a gene doesn’t
make a decision to be on or off a gene
is just a blueprint well for all the
years what have we done we’ve given the
genes the power that they decide what
happens to us and it turns out no we’re
the ones that create the genetic act
ribbiting my research from 47 years ago
I was cloning stem cells while I was
teaching this genetic determinism the
medical students my research revealed
that the environment was controlling
genetic activity and this led to a new
science that is called epigenetics now
it sounds Anette accepting genetic
sounds like the same thing I don’t know
it’s a revolution for this reason when I
say genetic control I am saying
controlled by genes that’s the belief
most people have but this new science is
called epigenetic control and why is
that important because epi that little
prefix epi means above so when I say
epigenetic control
I am literally saying control above the
genes well this is the new science and
it turns out that between the genes and
the world in which we live is the
nervous system the nervous system reads
the world and then adjust the biology to
survive in that world so the nervous
system is what reads the environment and
sends messages to the genes well the
significance about that is then the way
we see the world our perception of the
world is really what controls our
genetic activity if I program you with a
belief that you’re powerless that’s your
perception then that belief is
translated by the mind into chemistry
and the chemistry goes into the blood
and that chemistry then goes to the
cells that make up our body and control
gene activity the relevance is very
important epigenetics says look we can
change our perception of the environment
we can change the environment therefore
we’re not victims of the genes we’re the
masters because we’re the ones that are
ultimately controlling the environment
in which our genes are responding why
this is relevant just give you a simple
understanding I put cells in a plastic
petri dish I put the dish in a good
environment the cells grow beautifully
if I take the dish from a good
environment put it in a bad environment
the cells start to get sick and die if
there was a doctor that would come and
look at my cells
your cells are sick we should give them
some drugs and I go absolutely not you
want to sell so be well take the dish
from the bad environment move it back
into the good environment and they will
instantaneously get well again well the
report or the importance of this
understanding is profound because it
says our health is a reflection of how
we read the environment how we interpret
that environment why the interpretation
is an important part because it says
look I could live in the most wonderful
supporting environment that exists but
if I believe I’m a victim or I believe
that people are against me or the
world’s against me my cells don’t see
the real good world out there myself see
what my mind is telling them so all of a
sudden I’m adjusting my cells by my
belief they don’t see the real world and
so here’s a very important simple fact
only about 1% of illness is directly
connected to genes the point
99% of illness is really connected to
how we live in the world how we perceive
the world our lifestyle what we do and
what we believe because our mind is
converting our beliefs in the chemistry
and that chemistry goes into the blood
and that through epigenetics controls
our biology so rather than victims when
we understand the new knowledge we
become masters of our lives we’re the
ones that can change the environment we
can change our beliefs and what we do we
change the world and the concept that
mind controls biology is not a new thing
at all matter of fact almost everybody
in the audience already knows something
called the placebo effect the placebo
effect which is actually responsible for
most medical healing is not due to the
drugs or the therapy offered by the
medical doctor the placebo effect
results from your belief in the drugs or
the therapy that’s why I can tell you
here’s this pill it’s going to heal you
and it’s brand new and it’s all magical
and blah blah blah and take the pill and
you get healed and then later I tell you
was a sugar pill well what’s the
relevant answer with the sugar pill
didn’t heal you
your belief healed you right well most
people say yeah okay I know about that
belief that positive believes the
placebo effect what I want to emphasize
right now Ralph is something more
important it’s not just positive belief
that influences our lives negative
beliefs are equally powerful and
controlling our biology and so there’s a
field of science called the nocebo
effect versus placebo nocebo is the
result of negative thinking and what it
turns out is negative thinking positive
thinking are equally powerful that they
both influence our health in fact
negative thinking fear can kill you it
kills you because of the belief that
kills you the chemistry that comes from
negative thinking so people don’t
recognize it we always talk about the
placebo fact I go that’s great
you understand the nocebo effect
negative thinking can cause cancer
negative thinking can cause any disease
it can kill you and that becomes
important because we’re the ones that
have the thoughts and if we come from
negative thinking which is psychologists
tell us that almost all of our thinking
is negative and that’s part of
programming that if we come from a world
of negative thinking that we will
manifest a chemistry in our body that
does not support our health and in fact
can actually kill you and and this is
why it’s important because people
disregard the thinking and going oh no
my biology is controlled by my genes in
my chemistry and I go no it’s controlled
first by your thinking and this is
important because we have to really
understand the nature that our thoughts
are coming from our mind okay but then I
have to explain this problem because
people think well I had positive
thoughts it didn’t seem to work for me
I was thinking positive and I go okay
let’s get a fact clear that’s so
important Ralph it’s the most important
thing I can tell you our mind is
controlling our biology yes one two we
have two parts to the mind we have a
conscious mind a subconscious mind
we have in the past made a mistake and
that oh that’s one mind you know with
they’re both in the same one mind I
don’t know there are two separate Minds
they have different ways of functioning
and different ways of learning and what
you don’t understand that then the world
seems crazy so it goes like this
the conscious mind is connected to your
spirituality your source your identity
that makes you different than every
other person so every person’s conscious
mind which is the latest evolution of
the brain right behind your forehead
this is a seed of our personal identity
the conscious mind is the creative mind
it’s very important because the
subconscious mind is more reactive
reflexive stimulus-response push the
button get the response push the button
get the response it so it’s Abbot’s okay
the creative mind separated us from
lower animals lower animals can only
make certain responses stimulus response
stimulus response humans with creativity
to make a difference between the
stimulus and before the response I can
create stop and I can change the outcome
so the conscious mind is very creative
and I ask you a question Ralph very
important question I said tell me what
you want from your life you want you
know what is it you really want when you
give me answers such as I want to be
healthy I want to have a great
relationship I want to have a great job
I want to be a good golfer whatever that
means
the whole idea about that is what these
are creative thoughts because they don’t
exist and I’m looking forward into the
future what do I want I’m looking for my
creativity okay so as I’m looking as I’m
being creative the process of my
creative character is coming from my
conscious mind so here’s the point the
conscious mind has your wishes and your
desire center
I say what do you want whatever answer
you come up with I can tell you right
now it’s creative and it comes from the
conscious mind
okay so conscious mind is creative okay
the subconscious mind is the habit mind
not very much creativity it’s push the
buttons play the behavior its habits
you repeat them over and over and over
and over and over again okay problem
before you can be conscious you have to
have programs so you can be conscious of
something I’ll give you a simple example
I’d say look a baby is just being born
and pretend that the baby could speak
just pretend I say okay the baby’s just
thing for it’s coming out of the birth
canal and I say tell me something and
the baby will look up at you go I don’t
know anything I just got here whole idea
is this before you can become conscious
you have to have programs to be
conscious of but giving one more example
well we go to the Apple store we buy new
iPod take it out of the box the little
wheel on the front of the iPod they call
it the click wheel it’s like the
conscious mind why it’s creative make a
playlist select what you want push play
stop whatever you want to do creative so
I say a brand new iPod out of the box
and I say push play then you push plain
nothing happens compete look at you and
they say well what would they say Ralph
how come nothing played okay I have a
day they ask yeah you can’t plaintain to
not have any programs yes
you got to download the program’s first
then you can make a playlist okay the
human mind is the same thing before I
can be conscious I have to have
behaviors and programs I have no idea
about anything until I understand the
world so the first seven years of our
lives the mind is in download it’s in a
state called theta EEG
electroencephalograph brain function
theta is imagination that’s what kids
have between two and seven mix the real
world and the imaginary world you know
you tell the kid hey give me the broom
and the kids riding it that’s not a
broom it’s a horse to the kid it’s a
horse at that moment since the latter if
you see it as a broom imagination most
importantly is this theta is hypnosis
and why is that relevant the first seven
years of your life your brain is
downloading behavior
so you could be a functional member yes
variety in the family you gotta know the
rules that’s what I love about your work
because you talk of the first seven
years and I always share that with my
audience
and the big question many of us have is
how do we start reprogramming the
subconscious Maya
okay so let’s add two little facts and
then we’re going to the reprogramming
part okay okay number one the conscious
mind which is really great and it’s
creative also has the ability to think
and that creates a problem for the
following reason I say hey Ralph what
are you doing next Friday the moment I
ask you that question
you stop paying attention to the current
moment you go in your head and you go
like through a calendar and what am i
doing on Friday you’re thinking about it
right what’s the point the moment you’re
thinking your consciousness is not
paying attention to what’s going on it’s
thinking inside okay so what’s the
problem
ninety five percent this is there’s a 95
percent of our waking hours the
conscious mind is thinking why is that
relevant
it was simple 95 percent of the time
it’s not paying attention to what’s
going on it doesn’t mean you stop if
you’re walking down the street and then
you have a thought you don’t stop and
then have a thought and then go back to
walking again you continue walking or
you’re driving the car you can have a
thought while you’re driving the car but
you’re still driving the car but your
mind is not paying attention so I say
who’s running the show when your
conscious mind is thinking 95 percent of
the time and the answer is the default
program is whatever you start thinking
you switched into the behavior in the
subconscious mind that allows you to
keep walking or keep driving while
you’re not paying attention subconscious
mind is a million times more powerful a
computer than the conscious mind so it’s
very powerful and drive the car without
you thinking about it matter of fact
most of the time you don’t even think
about the drive
it’s all automatic anyway yes well why
is this relevant here’s a simple fact
the conscious mind has your wishes and
desires and what you want from your life
when you operate from that mind you
manifest wishes and desires and what you
want from your life but then we
recognize a simple fact only 5% of the
time are you operating from that mind
because it’s in thought 95% of time why
is that relevant I said well then who’s
running your life the answer is not your
conscious mind with wishes and desires
your subconscious mind with programs is
running your life right right I’m the
childhood experiences we have on the gas
tractor and then I said well tell me
about the character quality of those
programs and I can tell you right now
psychologists will tell you 70% or more
of those programs are negative
disempowering self sabotaging and
limiting meaning when you’re on
subconscious programming 70% or more
your behavior is not supporting it
what’s actually sabotaging you and they
say yeah but but I would see that if I
was sabotaging myself like oh that
that’s the problem why why are you
playing the subconscious program because
it conscious – not paying attention
point that means that when I am playing
the subconscious program I’m the one
that’s not even seeing what the program
is so when I give my lecture and I ask
the audience I said listen go back to a
time in your life where you must have
had a friend you were very close to you
knew your friends behavior very very
well yeah close friend I say but you
also knew your friends parent and one
day you see your friend has the exact
same behavior as their parent so you
know you feel all excited you volunteer
you go hey Bill you’re just like your
dad back away from Bill then we’ll go
totally ballistic and say how can you
compare me to my dad and everyone laughs
cuz they’re all familiar with it and I
go this is the most profound story I can
tell you for a very simple reason
everyone else can see that Bill behaves
like his dad
the only one doesn’t see it is Bill how
does that work an answer simple
he downloaded the behavior from his dad
in the first seven years and it plays
that behavior when he’s not paying
attention so when he’s doing his dad’s
behavior he’s someone that doesn’t see
it and then I go big next point we are
all Bell every one of us every day and
this becomes really important because
our conscious mind with wishes and
desires that wants to take us to a happy
successful healthy world only is
controlling it 5% of the time 95% is
coming from other people and then most
of that 70% or more negative so when on
a day-by-day basis you’re not running
your life your subconscious programs are
running your life and these came from
other people they didn’t answer your
wishes and desires a matter of fact they
limited your ability they disempowered
you this is not a brand new thing really
irritation if the Jesuits would say give
me a child until it’s six or seven it
will belong to the church for the rest
of its life what if they what did they
know they knew if I can get your
programming for the first seven years I
don’t care what you want to be in your
life you’re still going to come back and
be a member of that church what was the
point the program in the first seven
years will ultimately control your life
irregardless of your personal wishes and
desires they already knew if I get to
programming I own your life well this
programming has been the thing that has
kept us from experiencing the true life
on this planet and the movie The Matrix
is a mansion matrix is it’s not a
scientific fiction it’s science fiction
it’s a documentary yes we all got
program we were all program we are yeah
a movie they say well take the blue pill
stay in the program life is exactly the
same way yeah why yeah once you run the
program that’s is your lies they said
but take the red pill and get out of the
program I go Wow what would happen if
you took the red pill and now I can give
you the answer science has found out
when we fall in love we don’t
default to the subconscious we keep our
conscious mind presence that’s called
being mindful well why is it relevant
well if you keep your conscious mind
present and all your behaviors
controlled by wishes and desires and why
is that relevant because if two people
come together fall in love keep they’re
both conscious minds present then what
are they creating they’re creating a
life based on wishes and desires what
did they manifest the honeymoon it was
heaven on earth man it was you were
healthy you had energy you your life was
so beautiful in that honeymoon you
couldn’t wait for the next day get some
more that and and I said well have that
happen the answer was no matter how
crummy your life was up until that
moment that’s when you’re running the
program that the moment you fall in love
it’s like taking a red pill you keep
your conscious mind present there’s a
reason why if everything you were
looking for in your life is in front of
your face why would you start thinking
everything is right there you take it
all in so yeah the honeymoon part
results from you being conscious staying
mindful keeping your conscious mind
present not defaulting to the
subconscious what’s the result heaven on
earth there you go what honeymoon
doesn’t last because it doesn’t last I
said it doesn’t last for a very simple
reason even if you’re in love you still
have to pay the rent fix the car do your
tours whatever it is going to do it
means you guys start thinking again so
how did you create the honeymoon to
people with only their conscious minds
working wishes and desires creating
prime wishes and desires manifesting
heaven on earth then I said what happens
life gets busy you start thinking oh
yeah but the moment you start thinking
you start playing those programs in the
subconscious yeah those are the
limitations those are the sabotage
programs those are other people’s
behavior and all of a sudden why is that
relevant because the behavior you
downloaded from other people doesn’t
represent who you are it represents who
they are you start playing somebody else
that’s when when your partner in your
new romance when you all the sudden drop
into the subconscious start playing your
father’s behavior for example and your
partner sees it remember Bill doesn’t
see that he’s playing his father’s
behavior but the other people do
so your partner is seeing you play your
father’s behavior which is perhaps in
this case negative your partner looks at
you those who are you like where did
that personality come from and then of
course a problem is well you’re the one
it didn’t even see it so how did you
know yours like you’re defending
yourself like I don’t know what you’re
talking about you know what I’m talking
about it always been the good guy you
know it’s like in your conscious mind
yes but the moment you switch to your
subconscious you start playing negative
programs and you didn’t see it but your
partner did that’s when the relationship
starts to get a little tricky and the
more negative behaviors that come in
from both partners the more compromising
you have to do because I wasn’t what you
joined up for you you signed up for the
honeymoon that with two people living
from wishes and desires and all of a
sudden all this other behavior comes in
there’s like about what I wanted
compromise compromise well guess what
the love glow of the honeymoon the
honeymoon experience started goes into
history because now you’re playing more
of your behavior from this negative
database of subconscious programs so the
relevance yeah when you in effect what I
like about the book is that you talk
about the power of attitude in changing
the blood chemistry of the body and how
does one even discover that they have
this power to stop becoming the
architect of their own reality what are
some of the triggers you’ve talked to my
youthfulness when your beliefs start to
take over and run the show such as a
placebo effect you healed yourself not
from a drug you healed it from a belief
and you start to recognize oh my god I
changed my life Wharton you could be
sick as a dog and your boss calls and
says listen I need you on the job and
you’re the hottest setter or something
you go okay but you got to go to work
cuz it’s really important you go to work
and guess what while you’re at work
everything’s okay the moment you come
home it’s like oh god citizen thought
but it was what when you switch your
mind to the job you had to do the power
of the mind overrode the illness
when you came back home and you get to
thinking about how sick you are because
if the sickness came back you were
controlling this the entire time
hypnosis is also a way of controlling
your life because basically the programs
that we have in the subconscious came
from hypnosis when we were kids anyway
so I can hypnotize you right now Rob and
I say look here’s a glass of water on
the table I want you to pick up this
glass of water and but before you pick
it up a sip my weight that glass of
water weighs 1,000 pounds and you go
over to lift up a glass of water and
guess what everyone will watch you try
to lift that glass of water and you’re
clean up these it’s just a glass of
water how come you can’t whip it I said
when the mind believes it’s a thousand
pounds the mind also knows you cannot
live the thousand pounds and so what
does it do it creates a situation where
you will struggle to lift it but you
won’t let that how come and I haven’t I
think the muscles that were lifting the
glass up there’s also muscles to put the
glass down if I fire both muscles at the
same time does the glass go up or down
the answer’s no doesn’t go anywhere but
you’re both muscles are working like
crazy in your solution and everything is
like you have created reality out of
that I’ll give you another example I
have so many newspaper articles some
women picking up cars off of a child
underneath the car specially their own
child they have a woman lift the carbon
weight linzer’s can’t let the car and I
have pictures of a guy acts a couple
weightlifters muscle bound sweat coming
down lifting on the car and here’s a
woman no athletic ability at all lives
up the same car and this is a how can
she do that
the answer is she has no belief that she
can her trials under the cars like you
stopped the mother from lifting up the
car with her child’s under the car her
believe will lift that car and all of a
sudden you mean we are not powerful say
yeah we’re all that powerful except
right now if I say Ralph hey listen go
outside in the driveway
lift up your car
it’s really crazy about the cargo that’s
the belief run good you see and it’s
real interesting there’s some weird
people down in the South that really
mess up in my mind these these are
people who work themselves up into
religious ecstasy I think they get crazy
they speak in tongues they play with
serpents
stuff like that you know like poisonous
things like babble snakes and stuff like
that even when they get it they don’t
have a problem but the ones I want to
talk to better these they call this a
testifying testifying in their
terminology means they will demonstrate
to you that God takes power over then
God
you know protects them by doing things
that no normal person in their right
mind would ever do and so listen to it
they drinks strychnine poison and
testifying a God protects them I guess
what no negative consequences they not
harm they drink straight out poison and
they don’t get harmed wine the belief
system says that this this poison God
will protect like in the supports and
you think wow that’s preempted but it’s
same thing is walking across hot coals
walk across hot coals if you believe in
it but don’t walk across hot coals if
you don’t believe you can do it sure
and so what we’re talking about it the
powerful call of belief is totally
amazing but if I assess most anybody in
our audience about their beliefs most of
their beliefs are very disempowering and
negative and not supporting the food
they are because we got programmed that
way and we manifest thought and program
and so you want to take back your life
you have to go back in and rewrite the
programs right right so belief changing
your belief systems is a great way to
start rewriting the program’s you talked
of the environment as one of the biggest
factors influencing our genes what are
the factors would you say are the most
important factors well there’s a direct
environment that we live in but very
importantly is our perception of
environment as I mentioned earlier you
could live in a healthy environment but
if you believe it’s toxic then you’ll
get sick so wasn’t the environment it
was what your perception was so because
your that’s an interpretation that comes
from your mind
so you know this I I love hot spicy Thai
food I mean I love it so hot that when I
eat it perspiration because I my
remaining follicle somebody had and
drips and I go right you know and then I
make it and my neighbor comes over it
takes a bite in there’s nothing goes
happy to eat just stuff and in like
forty the environments the same for both
of us the same type food and my school
is the same as the one on his phone I
eat in though this is totally fabulous
he said his screaming his head off at
him children and the reality is then it
wasn’t the real Thai food that caused
the problem it was the interpretation
that the person happened same same
stimulus different interpretation this
is the issue of the world in which we
live we’re all in the same state
we’ll have different interpretations and
our world becomes our interpretation
whatever it is I said it’s not the same
as the real world it’s the world that
when perceive and that’s why it’s so
important that change our beliefs first
before trying to fix our lives because
our beliefs which are programmed in our
subconscious are running the shell
ninety-five percent of time that’s
what’s so frustrating the people because
in your conscious mind you know exactly
what you want I want to be help they
won’t always say I know what you want
but the issue is hayfitz only operating
in 5% of time then you’re not really
gonna manifest that you’re getting very
better program well I just want to say
thank you so much for taking the time
out of your busy schedule but before you
go in your great book spontaneous
evolution you talked about some
solutions in healing the planet does
planet Earth need to be saved or is it
just individually we need to save
ourselves
well planners
be here whether we’re here or not and we
are number one premise number two we
have to recognize this our belief about
how the planet works and how we got here
which is like a Darwinian theory which
is you know people even if you doesn’t
go to school you know Darwinian theory
is like the dog-eat-dog world if you do
if you don’t go out there and fight for
your survival someone’s going to walk
all over you and you’re going to lose so
we go out there everyday in a rat race
you know that kind of terminology like
you got a struggle in fact that’s what
the definition of Darwinian evolution is
a struggle for survival
using a competition in Fitness those
that are more thick get to survive and
those that are less than to die off and
that’s what oh yeah is how it works it
isn’t this is not true but by living
this as a believe we have destroyed
ourselves and we’re destroying the
environment because we haven’t
recognized that the so-called garden you
know you say garden represents a world
that is not based on competition a
garden is based on cooperation all the
organism plans in the garden would
together create the garden here we have
a garden to put the humans in it and
then the humans say though it’s all
based on competition so what are we
doing we’re competing against each other
we’re killing each other we’re trying to
disempower each other what I want to be
more powerful than you because if I’m
more powerful than you than I got a
better chance at surviving and all of a
sudden it’s not us working together
it’s me working for myself I don’t care
about you guys I’m going to do me well
we do have a part world of people doing
me and and being very careless about
harmony imbalance of a garden we end up
in a very sad situation which we are in
today this is a truth of science five
times in the history of this planet life
was thriving I mean the gardener’s gone
beautifully and five times in history
life got essentially wiped out and these
events were called mass extinctions
for example the dinosaurs are thriving
and then all of a sudden the dinosaurs
are gone what happened well they believe
in this case and that massive stakes
due to a comet or asteroid hitting the
earth and upsetting the environment and
wiping out life and so historically five
times in history of the planets natural
mass extinction unfortunately in this
the fact of science today we are in the
sixth mass extinction and this mass
extinction is due science as recognized
to human behavior the way we live the
way we undermine each other the way we
undermine the environment the way we go
out there compete is destructive not
just a bus o
our behavior is now destroying the
environment and so we have to change our
behavior in order to survive we have to
recognize that all humans are part of
one living super organism called
humanity just as a body is made out of
50 trillion cells
I say I’m Bruce well Bruce by full
definition means 50 trillion individual
cells living in a community and and this
becomes important because health is when
there’s harmony in the community you got
a healthy by when is disharmony in the
community of cells you have sickness
well what we’re seeing right now is the
recognition that each human you me
everybody on this line as a set in a
bigger organism called humanity the
significance of that is we have to work
together to create harmony otherwise all
things lost well there’s something in
medicine called autoimmune disease that
in Latin is equivalent of
self-destruction humanity as a living
super organism is experiencing what I
would call autoimmune disease we’re
destroying ourselves by killing each
other and messing with each other and
destroying the environment and we’re in
a bad case of autoimmune disease to get
out of this autoimmune disease we have
to change our belief system we have to
recognize that every one of us is part
of the same organism if you hurt another
cell it you’re hurting yourself and
this is the reality we have to let go
that Darwinian belief that it’s me and
I’m against you which is Darwinian
theory because of that has caused the
problem why your show is so important
Ralph Rand wife through I’m very honored
down is that you are offering the public
the new understanding the new police are
required to create harmony on this
planet and harmony within your own
biology remember harmony in your biology
is hell if you’re not healthy only 1% of
that can i tribute you genes 99% of
unhealthy individuals it’s because of
the way they’re living on the planet
their belief system their lifestyle and
why is this important because the
deepest things we can change in the
genes you can change but when you live
you can change the way you believe you
can change so the evolution that we’re
facing is an evolution that says stop
killing each other critter stop
antagonizing each other start learning
to live in harmony with each other as we
work together in harmony we work
together and create community the
healthy community reflects a healthy
organism and and so whether it’s the
community of cells in your body which
reflect your help and remember again
it’s so important cuz when we have
something that you know a health issue
we oh my body is broken my body’s so fit
my body made mistakes I go nah you’re
living in a lifestyle that doesn’t
support the help of the cells and this
becomes relevant because you’re the one
that changes if you change the lifestyle
then you change your help
and so we empower to do that but then
we’ve been programmed to believe know
your victim yeah your victim of your
genetics and your biology you can’t do
anything is like totally untrue but in a
world based on belief if that’s what you
believe then you become the victim and
we really have to change our whole
insight narrow understanding of
victimization because it’s just a self
belief system that is self-destructive
and that we are by necessity creating in
the world and it’s very important
because the young people in this will
which I call the millennial generation
40 years old and younger represent the
new civilization and it’s really
interesting because most of them are
thinking oh my god life sucks I can’t
even you know I’m living at home with my
parents and I’m almost 40 you know it’s
like oh my god I can’t get a job I can’t
get started I go well here’s why it’s
important yeah if I went out to
conventional millennial generation
person I say hey listen the stock
market’s going to crash they think like
that may go what this is all I like I
own the stock like I don’t know stock
what the hell do I care the stock market
crashes make up this is why the
evolution is going to happen 50% or more
of the people which are under now for
you do not have a hole on the existing
structure and that means that the
existing structure is getting weakened
about the fault bear because it doesn’t
work that’s why we have all the problems
we have to change completely the
internet is the evolution of the global
nervous system the internet allows you
and me to talking in different places
while at the same time allowing this
message to go out to millions of other
people simultaneously the Internet is a
nervous system that connects 7 billion
humans which are cells 7 billion cells
into one organism the internet is the
brain that is working through the
cooperative effort of 7 billion people
and so we are now facing a new belief
system new information is coming across
the population has a chance to decide
what it wants
the significance is the Millennial
Generation doesn’t give a damn about the
existing structure it doesn’t work for
them anyway and so they don’t support it
I said well yeah when more than half the
people don’t support the existing
structure it falls down and so we’re in
a state of the system falling apart and
a lot of people are afraid
oh my over the park and I go you don’t
get mad
this system is killing us this system is
what’s bringing about the sixth mass
extinction of life we will change the
system we are definitely doomed
that’s the fact that it’s not 100 or
million years from now it’s in decades
this whole thing shall fall apart and so
the relevance is this when you see it
falling apart honor that for this reason
whatever falls apart can be rebuilt and
replaced with something better and
that’s what we’re doing right now
governments falling apart business is
falling apart
Healthcare is falling apart all of these
things I thought yeah great
they’re not working for us now so the
option is now to build something better
your program now it’s part of building
something better than that’s why again
it’s important to give knowledge to
people because a simple thing and people
forget all their lives knowledge is
power
what they don’t get and this is the one
that the secret part because this is
what kills you a lack of knowledge is a
lack of power we have been deprived of
the new knowledge that empowers us seven
so when we get the new knowledge we
become more empowered we get to take
over the control of our lives we get to
create that anything effect if seven
billion people were living the honeymoon
of Becca the earth wouldn’t look like
heaven the earth would be heaven yes I
think that’s the big joke I tell you
this truth that you know I know I’m
going on here but I want to close with
this because it’s a joke
the joke is this oh if you live well
when you die you can go to heaven and I
want to suggest something totally
different better you were born into
heaven this is you come to create this
is where you come to experience when
you’re dead you leave with the memories
of it but you no longer have the
abilities physical to create – and this
becomes important because why are we
here to create the honeymoon fact to
create heaven on earth only our
programming has taken that away
Wow Frannie I’d rather see the heaven on
earth because if you were living your
heaven on earth and I’m living my Edmund
on earth I know that would just enhance
everybody’s life because each person who
heaven on earth is creating heaven on
earth this is heaven and I just want to
say thank you so much because your work
has changed my life forever
and millions of people out there you’re
doing something which I don’t even think
you comprehend what you’re doing it’s
just phenomenal work really creating
that ripple effect which is changing the
course of humanity for the better it’s
so inspiring reading every one of your
books just leaves me and all but once
again please give out your website to
the audience so they can find your
latest work yes so simple is Bruce
leviton.com so easy and lots of material
freely downloadable that you know to
tell the story that we’ve been talking
about in an abbreviated form on the web
you can get a bigger a bigger story
coverage well thank you once again dr.
Bruce and thank you to everyone out
there we are here infinite waters diving
deep once again stay well stay healthy peace
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