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Dogmatic Science and Pragmatic Spirituality | Dr. Goutam Paul | TEDxIIESTShibpur


there is a subtle difference between the

two terms religion and spirituality

spirituality deals with principles and

religion deals with formal expression of

those principles but in this talk I will

not make any distinction between

religion and spirituality a common

perception of religion or spirituality

is that it is very dogmatic and a common

view of science is that it is very

pragmatic now I want to argue that

science is at least as dogmatic as

so-called spirituality and spirituality

is no less pragmatic than science the

features based on which religion or

spirituality is termed to be dogmatic

can be classified mainly into three

categories number one unquestionable

faith on the scriptures you are not

allowed to question you have to accept

them as they are

second strict adherence to the rituals

prescribed by any particular religion

and third unflinching faith in the

preachers and the saints of any

particular religion now let us look at

science is the science free from all

these things I say no the textbooks and

the journals and the conference papers

those are like the scriptures of science

often people say that because this

article has been published in you know

so-and-so journal therefore it must be

correct

similarly every University every college

has its own rituals rituals in the form

of mode of teaching mode of interaction

between students and teachers the format

in which you do experiments you present

results you

create your dissertation everywhere

there is ritual and hard we have faith

in our teachers faith in the scientists

whose work we study without which we

cannot progress now let us look at

science how it is pragmatic the

pragmatism of science mainly can be

classified into three categories again

first science tries to solve practical

problems it tries to make our life more

comfortable number two science is based

on logic and reasoning cause-and-effect

and number three science is verifiable

whatever claim you make either that can

be proved or that can be experimentally

verified now I would like to argue that

religion or spirituality also has the

same features how science tries to solve

problems of the outside world let’s say

you are in an air-conditioned room and

you hear the news of someone beloved

just passed away so can you enjoy the

soothing breeze of the air-conditioner

at that moment I bet not if the outside

world is in perfect shape but your

inside is in mess then that perfection

of the outside wall has no meaning on

the other hand even if the outside wall

is in perfect mess but your inside world

is calm and composed there is hope for

survival so science and spirituality

work at a different level our well-being

our happiness ultimately depends on a

perfect balance between the inside world

and the outside world science addresses

how to solve the problems in the outside

world and spirituality addresses how to

solve problems in the inside world next

like science all the spiritual texts

of all religion if you deeply study you

can find that they are based on absolute

logic every verse followed from the

previous verse logically though often in

public those things are not discussed

for other reasons for example if you

look at bhagavad-gita the Indian

philosophy is developed based on

questions and answers arguments and

counter-arguments in science we have

good teachers and bad teachers in

spirituality also we have good teachers

and bad teachers so a good teacher in

science can explain new things can

entertain questions

similarly in spirituality also a good a

spiritual master will encourage

questions and arguments from you the

third category that verifiability

spirituality also has verifiability

if you follow a particular spiritual

practice as per the specification under

the guidance of a proper teacher then

you can feel whatever theory is proposed

whether that is true or not

so in science we do experiments and

after the experimental results will

claim yes my original hypothesis was

correct or wrong similarly in

spirituality after we do the experiment

we have the right to say yes it is

acceptable or it is not okay now let us

turn into two broad approaches that is

followed in science

the first one is deductive approach the

second one is inductive approach the

deductive approach consists of axioms

rules of inference theorems and proofs

axioms are like statements assumptions

which you cannot prove for example you

have Euclid’s axioms for the subject of

geometry you have postulates for the

subject of quantum mechanics etc rules

of inference tell you how to derive one

step from the previous step in a

mathematical argument

theorems of statements which are either

true or false and a proof is a sequence

of steps starting from some axioms and

ending in the theorem statement

following the rules of inference most of

the disciplines under the broad category

of mathematics try to follow this

approach the deductive approach but

there are other sciences as well like

biology chemistry psychology sociology

that take another approach which is

called the inductive approach where we

have axioms we have hypotheses that

means some statements which can be

either true or false but then instead of

proof we have experiments and

observation and based on the observation

we conclude whether the hypothesis was

correct or wrong

now there are many people who believe

that eventually all the inductive

sciences can be converted to deductive

science and ultimately we can explain

everything in the form of mathematical

equations but actually that is wrong

because the deductive system itself has

its inherent limitations to summarize

there are two famous results by

mathematician card gödel the first one

says that in any deductive system there

will always be some statements which are

true but which cannot be proved within

the system you can prove those

statements provided you add more axioms

you add more rules to the system to

create a larger system but in that

larger system itself you will have new

statements which are true and not

provable in the larger system so you can

build on and on and on and go ad

infinitum at each stage you can prove

lower system but you cannot prove the

system that you build in so there will

always remain some truths out there in

the universe which will not be covered

by any mathematical theory the second

result says that no axiomatic system or

deductive system can verify its own

consistency now consistency is a very

simple thing it means that you cannot

say a statement is both

true and false at the same time for

example I cannot claim that right now

right here it is raining as well as not

raining right now what this result says

is is that no axiom system can prove or

verify its own consistency but we have

an inherent assumption that an exam

system is consistent otherwise the whole

paradigm the whole science will pull ups

but the problem is we cannot prove it we

have to assume so that is a strong faith

of course we can add more axioms we can

extend a system in order to prove

consistency of the lower system but

again the larger system becomes devoid

of any proof of consistency so there

lies a big question of faith and

assumption in the correctness of any

theory that we can make I claim that

spirituality is an inductive science

like the other inductive sciences is the

example I have given so an example of

axiom could be existence of soul or

existence of God an example of

hypothesis could be for example if you

connect soul to God then the soul

becomes happy example of experiments and

observation could be prayers meditation

chanting etc and after you perform the

experiment you see the effect you have

the right to deny the hypothesis or

accept the hypothesis in the form of

conclusion now I would talk about five

major blames that science puts on

spirituality and I would like to show

that science itself is not free from

those blames number ones religions are

the root of all riots and fights that is

happening in the world should not all

religions be banned my argument would be

physics and chemistry are the source of

all bombs and all nuclear weapons and

all the disaster all guns that is

happening in the world so should not

physics and chemistry be banned

altogether should not I instantly blamed

for his equal to MC square because that

was responsible for the atomic explosion

in Hiroshima and Nagasaki

so our mode of thinking is of course

wrong

the same knife in the hand of a surgeon

can save a life and the same knife in

the hand of a murderer can take a life

so it is not the problem of religion or

science parts say it is how we use them

it is our intention second point this is

a picture of a child born of the nuclear

disaster so you can see how much role a

science can play the second point is why

follow a particular path cannot everyone

invent one’s own spiritual path or you

don’t have to call it a spiritual path

you say the path of your own life from

your own experience and then leave your

life according to it well in science

does everyone reinvent the will when you

go to a new apartment before taking your

electricity connection do you decide to

do research on your own to find out the

best mode of power generation and then

subscribe to electric supply corporation

or whatsoever know both in science and

in spirituality anyone is welcome to try

invent new paths to create new ideas

however one cannot do everything in one

lifetime so you have to begin somewhere

you have to take some things which

others have done research on in both the

disciplines next science says that why

you should follow a particular a guru or

a spiritual master one can read and

understand and practice on one’s own if

at all one wishes to follow a spiritual

path in science don’t we have PhD

supervisors don’t we have lab

instructors of course few geniuses are

out there who may not need any guidance

so in spirituality also we might have

some geniuses who may not need any a

guru but for the common mass we need a

guide we need a supervisor in both the

discipline it’s not spirituality and

religion the source of all superstition

for example the untouchability that has

been talked about other vulnerabilities

well the answer to that is is not say

mobile phone the source of all MMA

scandals so should we all throw away our

Mobile’s is not credit card the source

of all the fraud that is happening in

the digital banking industry should you

go back to our cash based banking system

of course not so in science what we try

to do we try to build protection

mechanism we try to educate people about

the potential vulnerabilities so

similarly if you go deep into any

religion or any spirituality you will

find that those blames are actually

baseless just like people misuse these

technologies for their own benefit

similarly there are people who misuse

spirituality and religion for their own

benefit just to make money or to make

votes no spiritual principle talks about

these things so we have to educate

people we have to spread the awareness

and then there will be the same

protection mechanism just like in the

mobile phone or in the credit card the

last one is not spirituality intangible

is not the result produced by

spirituality intangible well yes science

do produce tangible result for example a

sea in the summer but spirituality as I

have already described is an EC for the

summer of the mind we see that in

schools and colleges in universities we

have formal education of the so-called

science however proper formal teaching

and formal education on the logical

reasoning about spirituality and

religion is missing as we have seen that

spirituality is no less science than

science itself

so either we accept both or reject both

thank you very much [Applause]

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