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How Legal Pot Became the New Gay Marriage | Jack Hitt | TEDxMiddlebury


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I don’t know if you heard but marijuana

was legalized in the last election in

two more states and in the District of

Columbia as of the last election medical

marijuana is also legal in 23 states and

if you go to these stores these new

retail stores that sell this new

commodity called marijuana you run

across some of the brand names that you

see up here in this poster right there

hundreds of these names by the way but

they the California and skunk or maybe

you’d like some nice white widow or my

favorite light of Ja the clearly the

marketing teams in charge of our

marijuana commodity sort of participate

in what you might call sort of like late

hippie irony but now that marijuana has

become a product there are other people

that are engaging in this kind of new

dialogue about what do we call marijuana

how do we sell it how do we market it

it’s gonna we’re watching really an

underground illegal market surface to

become a visible legal market this is a

guy I hung out with for a while in

Seattle

he’s a former Microsoft executive Jamin

Shively who stepped down and started

this company called Diego pea SATA

it’s named for his great grandfather who

was a Mexican hemp farmer right and

jaemin is trying to corner the market on

what we might call sort of like high-end

pot sort of the Bordeaux of marijuana

these are the names of his brands Diego

racer Abba selection Armada Juan de Fuca

might have to work on that one Libertad

right these are these are meant to

invoke some sort of like Caballero

aristocracy right and speak to us on

that level and what we’re really

watching like I said is this kind of the

language of marijuana the old hippie

language is kind of being traded out for

a new kind of retail

which and already I found this this is a

map of how to match your pot with your

wine there may come a time when you’re

going out to dinner with a client at

some point and you will say ah yes white

widow

I hear that pairs well with a nice

Grenache how did we get here if you look

at this map or this chart you’ll see

that legalizing pot only ten years ago

seventy-three percent of Americans were

against it that was only ten years ago

and now a majority of Americans are in

favor of legalized pot a lot of people

change their minds in a short period of

time we’ve seen this before here 15

years ago 62% of Americans completely

opposed the idea of gay marriage and

then something happened mine’s got

changed and now it’s a bare majority but

we see now that these two issues which

are rolling through the states and being

legalized all across America and these

are two of the most sort of really

fundamentally up ending social issues of

our time right these are you know when

when the when the people opposed to gay

marriage said like this is a complete

referee definition of marriage this is

changing everything we know about

marriage they weren’t wrong

they were right this is a complete

rewriting of what marriages and you know

a majority of Americans at a time when

the national country is so conservative

has changed their minds okay they’re

high they’re at a party

there’s the ex-husband he’s coming over

hmm Adam this is Agnes Jake’s wife okay

that little clip and let me just explain

what it was that was the entire pot

scene from a 2009 romantic comedy called

it’s complicated okay

the whole scene is really just Meryl

Streep is formally married to Alec

Baldwin she’s going out on a date with

Steve Martin they get high they run into

Alec Baldwin at a party that’s the whole

joke right and it’s it’s as mild as you

just saw so when this movie came out in

2009 it had a very difficult time in

part because it was rated R right and it

was rated R as it got leaked in the

papers not because of vulgar language or

sexuality or violence but because can

you see that phrase down at the bottom

it featured pot smoking with no bad

consequences that was a violation of the

Hollywood rule you can’t have smoking

with no bad consequences someone has to

die someone has to drive off a bridge

someone has to jump out of a building

that has to happen or you get an R

rating now maybe one of the things I

like about this clip is we might be

seeing sort of the intersection of a

very old narrative about pot and a very

new one right because of course what we

saw with Meryl Streep and Steve Martin

was a kind of harmless little moment of

people getting high responsible use just

like you hear often about drinking beer

or wine that there is such a thing as

this right and understand that there is

there’s just a distinction that I want

to make here between these two

narratives between what we officially

say and what we will actually act on it

okay I understand that right now in

America marijuana is what’s known as a

Schedule one drug there are five

schedules and they they descend in order

of danger Schedule one the most

dangerous drugs that we have a Schedule

one drug is heroin a Schedule one drug

is LSD and two Schedule one drug is

marijuana what’s the schedule to drug

PCP

crystal meth is a schedule 2 drug

that’s the official narrative of the

country of the United States of America

and if you ask people where our drugs

bad they would say yes drugs are bad

that’s what they believe but what did

they actually act on what did they

actually know and I think what was

happening in that Meryl Streep clip is

that we saw sort of the the Hollywood

trying to enforce the old narrative in

the movie trying to sort of deal with

some gulf exists you have to understand

how we come to know information now

there are many ways we study in class

there’s all kinds of ways in which

information comes into our heads and one

of the stories that you’ll see every

couple of months is this one that we

have developed these Google Minds that

we have offshored all this information

to our iPhones that we don’t have memory

anymore we don’t have these personal

interactions what we have is Google and

the iPhone all arguments get settled

right but here’s the reality we’ve

always had a Google mind as cognitive

scientists will tell you most of us sort

of offshore a great deal of what we

believe in the minds of our friends and

our acquaintances our relatives right I

don’t really keep a lot of knowledge in

my memory bank about sports cuz my

friend Kevin he’s a whiz-bang at that

stuff I could just ask Kevin where I’m

from Charleston South Carolina where

genealogy and chronology and history is

very very important but I’ve never

stuffed my head with any of that stuff

because my mother is just unbelievable

third cousins twice removed she knows

who all those people are I don’t have to

bother myself with that information I

can move on so we’ve all offshored

information with our friends we’ve been

doing this google thing since time began

right most of us brush our teeth with

fluoride toothpaste and if I asked you

should we have fluoride in the water I

would wager that almost everyone in this

room would say sure again that’s good

that’s good but you know there people

who think that that’s bad it’s a small

minority but they’re people who think

that fluoride is what the Nazis used to

kill people they think it’s a government

plot to destroy our brains I think

fluoride is

really bad but overwhelmingly most

people who believe that fluoride is good

match what they believe with their

actions in other words this is one of

these things where there is no gulf

almost everybody believes that fluoride

is good and almost everybody acts on

that on that information but here’s the

question I want to ask you you brush

your teeth with fluoride you don’t mind

having fluoride in the water how do you

know that that’s true how do you know

did you go read a fluoride study I don’t

think so you used your google friends

you are of the tribe of people that

think fluoride is okay that’s how you

know and that’s how we know a lot of

things this is a chart that shows people

who believe that the top line the light

greenish one that ends in 42% shows that

almost half of this country believes

that we were invented in this form by

God instantaneously this story comes out

every couple of years and scientists go

completely ape you know it’s like oh my

god half the country believes then I’d

an intelligent design and creation

science this is crazy we’ve got to beef

up our stem programs we’ve got to

encourage young people to study science

and it’s true 42% of Americans will tell

you that God invented man and woman in

the current form instantaneously at some

point in the past so you would think

logic would follow that if that’s what

they believe then that’s what they would

act on and so you would think that may

be something close to 42 percent of our

school districts would teach this but

they don’t in fact almost no one teaches

it and every time someone does try to

teach it it’s a huge stink and there’s a

huge fight and invariably intelligent

design goes down as it did here in

Pennsylvania very famously just a few

years ago there was one prior to that in

Kansas and often what happens is parents

who if you asked them at the door in a

poll do you believe that God created man

and woman in the current form that we

exist at some point in the past they

would say yes but those same people

go and argue for evolution to be taught

in the schools and and beat these

battles right

and when when these things happen often

the victory is brutal

you get headlines like this and then

right after these battles go down this

is often some part of the media circus

is that one of our sort of like

appointed media clown steps up and says

something in this case it was Pat

Robertson who came out and said that God

will probably strike some terrible

natural disaster on Pennsylvania and

when that happens understand it will be

because they rejected intelligent design

there’s a small group of people that

thought that that was that made sense

but for most people they laughed at that

because people like Donald Trump and Pat

Robertson these people occupy the role

of sort of giant Macy’s Day Parade

balloon like clowns whose occasional

utterances are almost entirely designed

to make one tribe or another cling to

their views now the right wing has their

clowns and the left wing has their

clowns and for the right wing one of

their clowns just say like Michael Moore

right weird this guy this is Al Gore

with Bon Jovi this is at the opening of

an inconvenient truth now what are the

interesting things about Al Gore making

that movie and winning the Nobel Prize

the following year is it the the peak of

belief and global climate change

occurred right around then and started

to decline it was 71 percent in 2008 and

it’s dropped to 59 cent in 2010 and

since then the people who believe in

manmade climate change has dropped to 49

and scientists information scientists

are constantly asking themselves why did

that happen what happened well you know

you could you can point to a couple of

things that happened in 2008 Obama got

elected maybe that you know maybe that

drove some people but that seems hardly

to pertain to climate change and there

was a kind of climate change scientist

candle but one thing that happened was

Al Gore got a Nobel Prize for n and

community truth and one set of

information scientists note that very

few people saw this movie and the people

who did see it already believed it

anyway

but you know what did happen when he get

that Nobel Prize people saw the people

who saw that movie and when people saw

the people who saw that movie many of

them may well have thought you know what

not my tribe I don’t believe that anyone

is they believe that and maybe that’s

why the numbers went down and yet in

Florida just a couple of years ago a

local community decided to take action

on climate change and put up you know

walls and the sea and do whatever they

had to do to protect their town from

climate change right and if you look in

this article you’ll see it says right

there

Jacobs called it notable for bringing

Republicans Democrats Tea Party members

and independents together to agree on

common regional goals in other words

when people asked to act on the reality

of climate change they did that they

might say they believed that global

climate change wasn’t happening but when

it came down to taking action they did

there’s that gulf between what you say

you believe for some people and what you

will actually act on right so a large

part of this comes from the work of Dan

we know this guy because this is the

cliche of what a STONER is and many

ideas come out of this picture right

when you look at him we think oh that’s

a STONER he’s a loser he’s never gonna

get ahead he’s kind of incoherent

inarticulate and he’s a loser cuz he

smokes pot that’s the official narrative

that’s the one we all grew up on that’s

the reefer madness narrative but then

what happened was medical marijuana

drove a whole new cohort of pot smokers

to suddenly be visible to the rest of us

and so then we had to ask ourselves is

she a loser how about this girl how

about this guy is he a loser and

suddenly that question started to fall

apart and the cliche started to crumble

and all of a sudden the pot smoker was

many people and often just some guy

trying to get some weed to take home to

his wife as more and more of these pot

smokers came out who were not the cliche

and all of that crumbled away one of the

things that happened is that people who

didn’t smoke pot suddenly knew people

who did and realize that the cliche was

a lie and also that the sky didn’t fall

and so when the issue of pot

legalization comes up in the polls and

in the balance suddenly there’s a new

cohort that is willing to vote for it we

see this happen over and over again you

know when I was a little boy this is

what a gay man look like this is from a

movie called the boys in the band it’s

very big when I was in the middle school

it’s ancient and it’s basically a gay

positive movie but it existed long ago

and so it had to traffic in or had to

you know deal with the cliches that

existed then and at the in the 70s in

the media image if you are a gay man you

were thin you had fairly atrocious hair

and you had an inordinate fondness for

Necker chips bad hair neckerchief gay

but then what happened is more and more

gay people men and women of all ages of

all kinds began to come out of the

closet more and more non gay people came

to know them and realize that it wasn’t

the guy in the kerchief that it was

something else it was something bigger

was more complicated and that cliche

began to fall apart and we suddenly

realized huh maybe gay men can have nice

hair but what really happened to was

that the sky didn’t fall and so when the

issue came up on the ballot should we

give it should the majority of Americans

give these people the right to marry the

right to have the exact same rights that

the rest of us have non gay people were

suddenly comfortable to vote yeah yeah

and it’s because of those modest and

small conversations revolutions don’t

really happen on cable TV or in the

media or on Election Day or in that

paralyze swamp that is Washington DC

they end there changing a mind is really

the most local of local politics it

begins by breaking down a cliche when a

kind of unclothed cohort begins to

emerge and show us the reality of a

lived life so wild and unlikely

revolutions are still very possible in

America it’s just that if the science is

to believe to be believed more likely

than not they’ll begin with the

conversations we all have when this talk

is over thank you you

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