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welcome to mojo talks and this is watch
club the show where we break down the
biggest shows on TV I am your host Matt
and this is Phoebe and we will be
discussing season 2 episode 3 of West’s
world so we’re gonna get right into it
we’re going to talk about our favorite
moments I don’t throw it to Phoebe so
Phoebe what were yours there were a lot
of good moments in this episode I feel
my personal favorite was when Dolores
was talking to the Confederate oohs at
the castle right and she called herself
Wyatt
call me wine your wine that was very
interesting I was creeped out by I feel
like Wyatt is sort of taking over her
sensibilities because we know from the
first season that she sort of has
Wyatt’s you know DNA if you will lysed
into her own so I feel like he’s taking
over if you know what I mean see this
she’s pretty savage in this episode and
I think that that might be why you know
you definitely see that so some of my
favorite moments I mean the cold open I
thought was the best of the season for
sure I mean it’s only been three
episodes but it was the best it might
have even been one of the best of the
whole show I think so basically we were
introduced to this like colonialism in
India time and we were introduced to a
new character that was very cool
basically what I loved about it so much
I was just surprised that she was able
to outrun it for that long that’s it but
I mean used to spend belief a little bit
it was it was creepy when the de Lyon
era the the tiger I should say jumped at
her and then it just cut to black I
thought that was creepy it was really
creepy where she was like overlooking
the water and it was so dark like I was
afraid for her and when she jumped and
when the like the the tiger jumped after
her I was like there’s no way there’s no
way I’m gonna find out this and then we
see her at the end of the episode which
is pretty nice and then you realize that
hmm she might be pretty important going
for another moment that I really liked
was when Dolores was reunited with
Abernathy we knew it was gonna happen
that’s it yeah I don’t know that we
thought that it was gonna happen this
way it was pretty like shocking when she
first sees him and she’s trying to hold
her composure and yeah they like you
know take him away like I want to see
him in private and when she sees him
it’s so sad it’s so heart-wrenching that
he recognizes her for a split second and
then sort of goes a little bit yeah yeah
I need to talk to this one alone
I’m tired I’m only gonna ask him house
come on ask me twice
[Music]
and what’s really interesting actually
about that scene is when Bernard is
helping him and he’s looking at his
coding you can see that he has like all
of these overarching narratives sort of
like conflicting with each other yes
that sort of feels like what this
episode was I don’t know with me there’s
like a lot of things going on at the
same time yeah I think that was a nice
little Easter Egg there oh I didn’t
think of that
I just basically thought it was
literally I mean this is a reason why
but it’s literally just to kind of mask
the fact that he’s hiding all these
secrets you know
yeah that’s why Bernards like oh there’s
like overarching stories here they’re
trying to hide something there’s a much
bigger file here so yeah that’s
interesting I didn’t think of that
another one I’m just gonna talk about
really quick was rebus the guy with the
mutton chops he’s so angry he has all of
the the humans they’re tied up he’s
about to give them off to the
Confederate OHS but then they capture
him and they reprogram him and then he
just becomes like super nice all of a
sudden I thought that was like a
hilarious little kind of moment when one
of the WIMP like one of the ladies are
running up the hill he’s like not that
way it’s dangerous well let me escort
you sit just like such a 180 I thought
you know so Phoebe what did you see that
the audience might have missed in this
episode well at the very beginning of
the episode when we’re in India world we
see one of the hosts rebelling so this
is sort of the rebellion is moving
towards the other parks yes and the host
says under his breath dolorous is iconic
line he says these violent delights have
crunchy put the gun down so my sort of
hypothesis about this is that possibly
the hosts have a bit of a hive mind I
mean how could he have known that line
that Dolores constantly says it’s such
an iconic exactly yeah so I feel like
it’s maybe a hint that there’s a bit of
a hive mind between the hosts in the
different parks which is really
interesting and as my second thing that
you noticed when Charlotte is finally
rescued by the Dell O’s agents they’re
not sure whether or not she’s a human
they don’t recognize her so they’re sort
of they have her at gunpoint and she’s
saying I’m a human I’m a human and she
turns around and they put the testing
device to the back of her neck Charlotte
clear now right if I’m not mistaken this
is the first time that we see this
device in the series correct and I feel
like it’s very interesting because later
in the episode when we see Bernard who’s
trying to help Abernathy
he’s sitting in the corner when they’re
coming to take away Abernathy and they
don’t even recognize him they don’t
really like a second glance even though
he’s such an important person in the
park so I think that maybe this is
actually foreshadowing that maybe
Bernard won’t be recognized by the
agents next time and they’ll test him
and expose the fact that he is actually
a host that’s because he’s had a lot of
free passes so far like when he was
washed up on the beach and they were
with guns at his face like who are you
who are you you figure that maybe they
would test him there but luckily stubs
Luke Hemsworth’s character was there and
he’s like oh no I recognize them it’s
fine yeah he’s human maybe so he’s so
lucky next time
yeah exactly he’s had some free passes
so very interesting um my what you
missed is at the beginning the new
character who the Internet’s saying her
name is grace very interesting wasn’t
mentioned in the episode but she has
this little book that she was very
secretive of and then she opens it up
and then there are like two hexagons
symbols in there with like a little
intersecting part there now I don’t know
if the audience noticed this but in the
season premiere when Bernard was in the
bunker with what’s-her-name I keep
forgetting her name
Charlotte Charlotte yes she’s in the
bunker he’s in the bunker with her and
she’s logging on to the computer a
computer mainframe and you see that very
same symbol come across the screen on
the computers so what does that symbol
mean who knows I think it might be a
symbol or a location on a map it’s like
one of the bunkers I think it could be
the bunker like the bunker where they
keep all the DNA of the guests and stuff
like that it could be the valley beyond
I do have a prediction about that a
little bit later but obviously I’ll talk
and think you had it in you so Phoebe
you have a big prediction about Teddy
how about you shared with us okay well I
think that it’s no secret that in the
first episode when we see all of the
hosts face down there was a host that
was given particular emphasis that
looked a lot like Teddy mm-hmm and we
were sort of questioning why he would be
in that situation we had predictions
about whether or not Dolores was going
to purposefully kill all of the hosts
and then revive him as an army you have
some good predictions about that nicely
very good in fact this kind of made me
question my own assumptions Oh when
Teddy is you know he seems to be having
a bit of a crisis he sees those do doing
all of these horrible things she
betrayed people who were on her side and
a lot of people lost their lives as a
result well most lost their lives I
thought because no not everybody can
make it to the beyond he’s she’s
becoming more and more like Wyatt which
was before she’s very very savage so at
the very end of the episode when she
she’s talking to Teddy and she’s telling
him to take the loss of the Confederates
out and put them down like dogs yeah one
of the Confederate one of the
Confederate US I should say is really
giving him a lot of shit he’s saying
like you know you’re a coward and you’re
pathetic and you could see Teddy sort of
agrees with him and I I agree with him
too that Teddy has sort of been like so
impressionable this whole season for
sure he’s so boring in my like in my
opinion it really has no vision and
exactly yeah he’s just sort of like
doing whatever Dolores says so he
finally makes a decision for himself and
he says just go just go but little does
he know that Dolores is watching yes so
my prediction now is that Dolores did
not kill all of these hosts as a means
to revive him to be her army or maybe
she did but she killed Eddie because she
doesn’t trust him anymore and because
she is completely gone off the handles
yeah so it remains to be seen but I
think that she will probably just kill
Teddy and let him go you know what I
completely agree when I saw that that
scene unfold and she’s just like it’s
sneaking behind the wall spying on it
was like this is not good for Teddy yeah
I was very happy that he made that
decision because it was like the first
one he made like he truly seemed to
believe yeah and just it was the right
decision in my opinion if
showed that his character has a backbone
yes I just felt like he was so he was so
devoid of substance for this entire
season and it’s like finally he is
standing up for what he believes in
yeah totally so one of my predictions
ghost nation was pretty prominent in
this episode in the middle of it and at
the end in the middle basically Maeve
and her group are trudging through and
they come into contact with ghost nation
they’re like oh yeah you can continue on
your way but we’re taking this guy and
they point to Lee and if you notice the
only difference between Lee and Maeve
and the other man character like I’m
completely blanking his name Hector
he’s human so interesting that they
singled him out and when they decide to
run away they don’t start throwing their
Spears there’s no bow and arrows there’s
no attempt to kill anyone they just
chase them so you can tell that hmm they
just want to collect Lee why is that and
then at the end of the episode when
grace washes up on shore ghost nation is
there again and you know what they don’t
kill her or at least they don’t do
anything to her for now so that leads me
to believe that ghost nation is rounding
up humans why would that be the case I
don’t know but I have an other
prediction one of my favorite characters
from season 1 Elsie was seemed seemingly
killed by the hands of Bernard but we
haven’t seen her at all in season 2 she
has gone on record the actress to say
that she is going to come back in season
2 so I don’t think she’s dead obviously
she’s not she’s gonna come back but I
think that she has found a way to
reprogram ghost nation into serving her
so I think she’s kind of building a
little bit of a group or an army
what’s the reason I’m not quite sure yet
but I think we’re gonna we’re gonna find
out soon another prediction of mine is
the mystery woman grace I think that she
is Williams daughter whoa and that’s a
big one I think it might not happen but
let’s let’s look at the the key points
here one she has that book with the map
and that symbol that is clearly
important to the delos company and how
else would she know that if she didn’t
have
some sort of connection to the company
and the connection is is her father
right there and I thought this was very
interesting at the beginning of the
episode she’s like she’s about to hook
up with this guy and she’s like I have
to make sure you’re not a robot and she
goes all the way to like shooting him
just to make sure that he’s human and I
think that has a lot to do with the fact
that her father fell in love with a
robot and she just doesn’t want to fall
into the same kind of trappings and
following fallings that her father did
so we still don’t know what the symbol
is I kind of have a theory it’s one of
those secret bunkers located around West
burrow they can harvest this DNA from
guests and stuff but we’re still gonna
have to wait and see but I think the big
gist of that prediction is that it’s
it’s his daughter that’s so young
we’ll see I have another prediction that
has to do with the very end scene of
this episode well that was it so it was
incredible so we see Maeve we see Lee we
see Hector and they’re sort of walking
into this snowy area and they don’t know
where they are and somebody suggests
that possibly that the end of the park
they’re not really sure and we see lead
digging in the snow he picks up a
severed head and it’s crazy and then we
create somebody coming at them wielding
like a samurai sword
yeah so as we know there is a part
called Shogun Park things she thanks to
the promotional information that has
been released by the show yeah my
prediction is that Maeve and the
samurais will team up and create an army
and the reason why I think this is
because in the trailer for the season 2
where there’s a quick shot of Maeve in a
kimono oh this is true this is really
interesting and I think that this will
probably lead to a very very deadly
confrontation between Lawrence’s army of
Confederate oohs versus Maeve’s army of
samurais this is very crazy you don’t
think that that samurai dude kills
anyone in that scene I don’t think so
I don’t think so because obviously like
Mavis is one of the most important
people and she’s also very persuasive
yeah and not to say that she’s
manipulative but I think that she can be
very persuasive she’s much more
level-headed than Dolores in sort of
explaining her her revolution to people
right so I think that she’ll be able to
I’m on her side quite easily very
interesting very interesting so those
are some pretty good predictions guys
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welcome to mojo talks and this is watch
club the show where we break down the
biggest shows on TV I am your host Matt
and this is Phoebe and we will be
discussing season 2 episode 3 of West’s
world so we’re gonna get right into it
we’re going to talk about our favorite
moments I don’t throw it to Phoebe so
Phoebe what were yours there were a lot
of good moments in this episode I feel
my personal favorite was when Dolores
was talking to the Confederate oohs at
the castle right and she called herself
Wyatt
call me wine your wine that was very
interesting I was creeped out by I feel
like Wyatt is sort of taking over her
sensibilities because we know from the
first season that she sort of has
Wyatt’s you know DNA if you will lysed
into her own so I feel like he’s taking
over if you know what I mean see this
she’s pretty savage in this episode and
I think that that might be why you know
you definitely see that so some of my
favorite moments I mean the cold open I
thought was the best of the season for
sure I mean it’s only been three
episodes but it was the best it might
have even been one of the best of the
whole show I think so basically we were
introduced to this like colonialism in
India time and we were introduced to a
new character that was very cool
basically what I loved about it so much
I was just surprised that she was able
to outrun it for that long that’s it but
I mean used to spend belief a little bit
it was it was creepy when the de Lyon
era the the tiger I should say jumped at
her and then it just cut to black I
thought that was creepy it was really
creepy where she was like overlooking
the water and it was so dark like I was
afraid for her and when she jumped and
when the like the the tiger jumped after
her I was like there’s no way there’s no
way I’m gonna find out this and then we
see her at the end of the episode which
is pretty nice and then you realize that
hmm she might be pretty important going
for another moment that I really liked
was when Dolores was reunited with
Abernathy we knew it was gonna happen
that’s it yeah I don’t know that we
thought that it was gonna happen this
way it was pretty like shocking when she
first sees him and she’s trying to hold
her composure and yeah they like you
know take him away like I want to see
him in private and when she sees him
it’s so sad it’s so heart-wrenching that
he recognizes her for a split second and
then sort of goes a little bit yeah yeah
I need to talk to this one alone
I’m tired I’m only gonna ask him house
come on ask me twice
[Music]
and what’s really interesting actually
about that scene is when Bernard is
helping him and he’s looking at his
coding you can see that he has like all
of these overarching narratives sort of
like conflicting with each other yes
that sort of feels like what this
episode was I don’t know with me there’s
like a lot of things going on at the
same time yeah I think that was a nice
little Easter Egg there oh I didn’t
think of that
I just basically thought it was
literally I mean this is a reason why
but it’s literally just to kind of mask
the fact that he’s hiding all these
secrets you know
yeah that’s why Bernards like oh there’s
like overarching stories here they’re
trying to hide something there’s a much
bigger file here so yeah that’s
interesting I didn’t think of that
another one I’m just gonna talk about
really quick was rebus the guy with the
mutton chops he’s so angry he has all of
the the humans they’re tied up he’s
about to give them off to the
Confederate OHS but then they capture
him and they reprogram him and then he
just becomes like super nice all of a
sudden I thought that was like a
hilarious little kind of moment when one
of the WIMP like one of the ladies are
running up the hill he’s like not that
way it’s dangerous well let me escort
you sit just like such a 180 I thought
you know so Phoebe what did you see that
the audience might have missed in this
episode well at the very beginning of
the episode when we’re in India world we
see one of the hosts rebelling so this
is sort of the rebellion is moving
towards the other parks yes and the host
says under his breath dolorous is iconic
line he says these violent delights have
crunchy put the gun down so my sort of
hypothesis about this is that possibly
the hosts have a bit of a hive mind I
mean how could he have known that line
that Dolores constantly says it’s such
an iconic exactly yeah so I feel like
it’s maybe a hint that there’s a bit of
a hive mind between the hosts in the
different parks which is really
interesting and as my second thing that
you noticed when Charlotte is finally
rescued by the Dell O’s agents they’re
not sure whether or not she’s a human
they don’t recognize her so they’re sort
of they have her at gunpoint and she’s
saying I’m a human I’m a human and she
turns around and they put the testing
device to the back of her neck Charlotte
clear now right if I’m not mistaken this
is the first time that we see this
device in the series correct and I feel
like it’s very interesting because later
in the episode when we see Bernard who’s
trying to help Abernathy
he’s sitting in the corner when they’re
coming to take away Abernathy and they
don’t even recognize him they don’t
really like a second glance even though
he’s such an important person in the
park so I think that maybe this is
actually foreshadowing that maybe
Bernard won’t be recognized by the
agents next time and they’ll test him
and expose the fact that he is actually
a host that’s because he’s had a lot of
free passes so far like when he was
washed up on the beach and they were
with guns at his face like who are you
who are you you figure that maybe they
would test him there but luckily stubs
Luke Hemsworth’s character was there and
he’s like oh no I recognize them it’s
fine yeah he’s human maybe so he’s so
lucky next time
yeah exactly he’s had some free passes
so very interesting um my what you
missed is at the beginning the new
character who the Internet’s saying her
name is grace very interesting wasn’t
mentioned in the episode but she has
this little book that she was very
secretive of and then she opens it up
and then there are like two hexagons
symbols in there with like a little
intersecting part there now I don’t know
if the audience noticed this but in the
season premiere when Bernard was in the
bunker with what’s-her-name I keep
forgetting her name
Charlotte Charlotte yes she’s in the
bunker he’s in the bunker with her and
she’s logging on to the computer a
computer mainframe and you see that very
same symbol come across the screen on
the computers so what does that symbol
mean who knows I think it might be a
symbol or a location on a map it’s like
one of the bunkers I think it could be
the bunker like the bunker where they
keep all the DNA of the guests and stuff
like that it could be the valley beyond
I do have a prediction about that a
little bit later but obviously I’ll talk
and think you had it in you so Phoebe
you have a big prediction about Teddy
how about you shared with us okay well I
think that it’s no secret that in the
first episode when we see all of the
hosts face down there was a host that
was given particular emphasis that
looked a lot like Teddy mm-hmm and we
were sort of questioning why he would be
in that situation we had predictions
about whether or not Dolores was going
to purposefully kill all of the hosts
and then revive him as an army you have
some good predictions about that nicely
very good in fact this kind of made me
question my own assumptions Oh when
Teddy is you know he seems to be having
a bit of a crisis he sees those do doing
all of these horrible things she
betrayed people who were on her side and
a lot of people lost their lives as a
result well most lost their lives I
thought because no not everybody can
make it to the beyond he’s she’s
becoming more and more like Wyatt which
was before she’s very very savage so at
the very end of the episode when she
she’s talking to Teddy and she’s telling
him to take the loss of the Confederates
out and put them down like dogs yeah one
of the Confederate one of the
Confederate US I should say is really
giving him a lot of shit he’s saying
like you know you’re a coward and you’re
pathetic and you could see Teddy sort of
agrees with him and I I agree with him
too that Teddy has sort of been like so
impressionable this whole season for
sure he’s so boring in my like in my
opinion it really has no vision and
exactly yeah he’s just sort of like
doing whatever Dolores says so he
finally makes a decision for himself and
he says just go just go but little does
he know that Dolores is watching yes so
my prediction now is that Dolores did
not kill all of these hosts as a means
to revive him to be her army or maybe
she did but she killed Eddie because she
doesn’t trust him anymore and because
she is completely gone off the handles
yeah so it remains to be seen but I
think that she will probably just kill
Teddy and let him go you know what I
completely agree when I saw that that
scene unfold and she’s just like it’s
sneaking behind the wall spying on it
was like this is not good for Teddy yeah
I was very happy that he made that
decision because it was like the first
one he made like he truly seemed to
believe yeah and just it was the right
decision in my opinion if
showed that his character has a backbone
yes I just felt like he was so he was so
devoid of substance for this entire
season and it’s like finally he is
standing up for what he believes in
yeah totally so one of my predictions
ghost nation was pretty prominent in
this episode in the middle of it and at
the end in the middle basically Maeve
and her group are trudging through and
they come into contact with ghost nation
they’re like oh yeah you can continue on
your way but we’re taking this guy and
they point to Lee and if you notice the
only difference between Lee and Maeve
and the other man character like I’m
completely blanking his name Hector
he’s human so interesting that they
singled him out and when they decide to
run away they don’t start throwing their
Spears there’s no bow and arrows there’s
no attempt to kill anyone they just
chase them so you can tell that hmm they
just want to collect Lee why is that and
then at the end of the episode when
grace washes up on shore ghost nation is
there again and you know what they don’t
kill her or at least they don’t do
anything to her for now so that leads me
to believe that ghost nation is rounding
up humans why would that be the case I
don’t know but I have an other
prediction one of my favorite characters
from season 1 Elsie was seemed seemingly
killed by the hands of Bernard but we
haven’t seen her at all in season 2 she
has gone on record the actress to say
that she is going to come back in season
2 so I don’t think she’s dead obviously
she’s not she’s gonna come back but I
think that she has found a way to
reprogram ghost nation into serving her
so I think she’s kind of building a
little bit of a group or an army
what’s the reason I’m not quite sure yet
but I think we’re gonna we’re gonna find
out soon another prediction of mine is
the mystery woman grace I think that she
is Williams daughter whoa and that’s a
big one I think it might not happen but
let’s let’s look at the the key points
here one she has that book with the map
and that symbol that is clearly
important to the delos company and how
else would she know that if she didn’t
have
some sort of connection to the company
and the connection is is her father
right there and I thought this was very
interesting at the beginning of the
episode she’s like she’s about to hook
up with this guy and she’s like I have
to make sure you’re not a robot and she
goes all the way to like shooting him
just to make sure that he’s human and I
think that has a lot to do with the fact
that her father fell in love with a
robot and she just doesn’t want to fall
into the same kind of trappings and
following fallings that her father did
so we still don’t know what the symbol
is I kind of have a theory it’s one of
those secret bunkers located around West
burrow they can harvest this DNA from
guests and stuff but we’re still gonna
have to wait and see but I think the big
gist of that prediction is that it’s
it’s his daughter that’s so young
we’ll see I have another prediction that
has to do with the very end scene of
this episode well that was it so it was
incredible so we see Maeve we see Lee we
see Hector and they’re sort of walking
into this snowy area and they don’t know
where they are and somebody suggests
that possibly that the end of the park
they’re not really sure and we see lead
digging in the snow he picks up a
severed head and it’s crazy and then we
create somebody coming at them wielding
like a samurai sword
yeah so as we know there is a part
called Shogun Park things she thanks to
the promotional information that has
been released by the show yeah my
prediction is that Maeve and the
samurais will team up and create an army
and the reason why I think this is
because in the trailer for the season 2
where there’s a quick shot of Maeve in a
kimono oh this is true this is really
interesting and I think that this will
probably lead to a very very deadly
confrontation between Lawrence’s army of
Confederate oohs versus Maeve’s army of
samurais this is very crazy you don’t
think that that samurai dude kills
anyone in that scene I don’t think so
I don’t think so because obviously like
Mavis is one of the most important
people and she’s also very persuasive
yeah and not to say that she’s
manipulative but I think that she can be
very persuasive she’s much more
level-headed than Dolores in sort of
explaining her her revolution to people
right so I think that she’ll be able to
I’m on her side quite easily very
interesting very interesting so those
are some pretty good predictions guys
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