hey mojo holics I’m Dan roto and welcome
to watchmojo.com today we’re bringing
you a classic clip from the much vault
where Nirvana refuses to label their
music you guys want to see trolls before
trolls or even a thing
check out this 1991 era interview first
things first I guess I read I read the
first page of your bio and you’re
talking about punk rock now our new van
is still a punk punk band I liked
biorhythm machines and I put my hand in
one and it was a pretty Punk read out it
cut my hand said Lord your soul punk
[Music]
does that does that term still apply to
you guys so are you you know have you
moved I don’t think we’ve ever been
labeled as punk rock in the first place
we just played in the underground
circuit we like punk rock more than any
other style of music so yeah everybody
was sort of into punk rock before the
band really evolved anyway so it’s
definitely everyone was sort of bread on
the punk thing okay no I’m sure you
dislike labels but then where do you see
I think what did they call it before the
the Sub Pop sound
oh yeah the Sub Pop sound that’s right
yeah grudge crimes Seattle I can’t I
can’t decide oh yeah
but then but the bacillus wrong the Sub
Pop thing wouldn’t apply anymore though
there’s still a label so we’re yeah
MCA Europe in Canada we’re mca okay now
again like I realize I know I realize
you guys dislike the labels but I mean
it’s still a case of I mean our labels
the way people label people people of
race creed or color national origin
brother we’re all here on this floating
sphere through space okay see this is a
little bit different though because I
think to a certain extent people like
people that are out there want to know
because it helps them decide whether
they like it or not right I mean yeah
that’s not that’s not necessarily a
category thing but it’s still like we’d
all like to say that we’re the Black
Sabbath and molesting the Bay City
Rollers or the knack maybe okay well
that was something else
that would then have every something
else
I wanted to ask you guys about now you
mentioned the knock on the Bay City
Rollers are there aspects of those bands
in your music and where are they fashion
wise this Bay City Rollers all the way
just wait till we go on
there’s gonna be this inverted plaid
cross just gonna be with ozzy osbourne
with that woody shag crucified on it
okay now were you guys fans of those
bands seriously I was I don’t I I
despised the Bay City Rollers when I was
nine my sister liked them but I didn’t I
bought the Saturday night single but I
like him now I have all their albums you
like yeah okay cuz I guess you guys also
talked about how you’re a pop band yet I
don’t know I wonder how many people
would really describe you in that way
well a lot of people do just because the
songs are you know they may be really
heavy but they have some sort of melody
to them I mean they’re like poppy songs
but music okay how do you how do you
feel though about the crossover into the
metal market well maybe we can view
those kids they could go from
worshipping Satan to being studious and
alternative and some of the alternative
people could be like smoking pot on
their Camaro hoods hoods of their
Camaros it’ll be a Camaro those will be
trade off yeah it’ll be joint forces
unite all potheads and bookworms come
together okay now now now one of the one
of the things I was reading though you
were being interviewed in a metal
magazine and someone one of the members
of the band wasn’t very happy about that
what’s that a pubic hair look it’s curly
and cranky oh I don’t know I don’t know
where did you where did you get that who
sent you what platters are we gonna be
able to get in front we are well I don’t
know you know a lot of heavy metal is I
don’t really care for a lot of heavy may
at all you know what I mean a lot of
it’s just kind of good I mean to each
her own right okay but then I guess the
fact that you then appealing to that
market or you’re having a fans of those
bands come out to see you guys that
doesn’t bother you or that’s something
you’d like to happen all we’d like for
that to happen sure people could come in
and check our band out why not see
people come and like the music and
that’s fine if they come and think we’re
a heavy metal band you know I went to
this show in Olympia and The Melvins
opened for this like heavy metal band
and all the punk rockers and stuff you
know the metal the metal people just
gave them Melvin’s a bunch of hooey
and then when the metal band came out
the punk rockers who came for the moment
they got into the metal band but it
seemed like the metal people kind of
freaked out they were weird
I don’t know what it was maybe something
like eight years ago – yeah now that
metallic are wearing misfits t-shirts I
think it’s had a big impact
James Hetfield gave the legions of
rockers the okay they’re like punk rock
so it must be okay now
now being on a bigger label are you guys
involved like I mean there must be
meetings about marketing and stuff like
that do you guys have any say about that
stuff or is it just something that you
just leave up to the label we don’t go
to the meetings you can imagine second
one back to school you know we just we
sit that out fluorescent lights hurt my
eyes so things how have things changed
for you guys now being on a bigger label
to be on MuchMusic yeah we’re prompt
we’ve brought watches we have tour
managers now we don’t get up at one
o’clock in the morning because last time
we were here we were like just us three
you know driving around get up whenever
we wanted whoo man that’s a pretty long
drive to Toronto we better get going I
got yeah and then we’re like show up as
it we’re ready to go on okay now you
recorded you recorded your album with
Butch Vig now why did you choose him for
the producer because we worked with him
before about a year ago we attempted to
record our album with him it turned out
really well
but we were in the middle of doing the
Sub Pop negotiations trying to get out
of that contract undies do you see so it
just seemed like the best thing to do
you know to work with someone who’s
familiar with us still you’d done demos
with a few other people those well
hadn’t you we did the demos that’s what
he’s talking about we know but I thought
there was other producers you guys we
were just Jack and Dina that’s about it
nobody else
never did any demos with them and was
was there stuff you had heard by butch
before you’d worked with him that kind
of decided it or it sounded really good
there was like laughing hyenas and
killdozer pretty crunchy meaty stuff we
thought yeah I would try this guy off so
we did the demos and then never can’t
nothing came out of that so we called
him again and he flew down to LA and we
all flew to LA and we drove to LA why
drove yeah we drove to LA he flew and we
made this record took us about a month
and he butchers really hands-on as a
producer and engineer you know he’s just
totally in it all the way so he’s so
easygoing and stuff too now the first
one was recorded the first one was
recorded fairly quickly now where
there’s certain things you set out to do
differently this time around or it was
just an entirely different set of
circumstances this time around you know
an entirely different set of
what did we set out to do different a
different studio different producer and
we different state we just did that
whole major label go to Hollywood and
record a record thing but we didn’t get
stuck with some goofball producer we got
the producer we wanted you know and we
don’t really have any regrets about how
it turned out we think it turned out
great and what we did but I think next
time around kind of gonna choose a
different path because there’s such a
well-worn I’m gonna draw it off track
it’s a different different path religion
no we’re gonna record in a church no a
different path I don’t know I think we
might record the rednecks record as we
go along
right we might recorded on a boombox
we might record the record like in an
airplane bathroom because of the dynamic
acoustics just depends you know we did
our go to Hollywood just like I said we
did
Hollywood trip maybe we’ll record in
somewhere else maybe some natural over
recording some Greek theater somewhere
in Greece idea Acropolis or something
okay now that the first one was done
more or less as a live thing so this
time around was it was it consciously
like a studio effort and and away from
the live sound I don’t think the first
album was live I mean we recorded it in
the studio we overdubbed all guitar and
vocals
it was done like four days or I don’t
even forget how many days under a week
three four or five days I’m like that
six hundred bucks but you know what we
were all we were mixing it we were
really sick and Kurt went down to the
health department
and he got these uh codeine cough syrups
and we were just popping those and we
were just like in la-la land and then we
were like hands on producers just
cooking on this codeine joy juice I
think it had a big effect on how that
record turned down that’s an honest
truth okay now with the the cover of the
new record is is there a certain concept
you guys are trying to put across with
the cover it’s open for interpretation
you know think about a baby swimming
through water dollar bill on a hook you
know that’s a fun part of it decipher
maybe person could find a new way of
life it’s we’re speaking of paths they
can find they can take off their clothes
and bite into a fish hook and water see
how that feels
well I said I sort of thought it related
to the band though who’s this is sort of
your first jump in the the water towards
the huge bucks and all that seat okay
well I never thought of that then well
there you go that works to see something
for interpretation
and that’s the whole idea you guys don’t
like explaining anything to do with your
music or to do with what you’re doing
just like Ricardo said splain Lucy
now okay now why don’t you like talking
about it though what’s what’s the
problem with going on camera and just
relating a little story to do with it
there’s nothing to be said it’s all in
the music man it’s all on the music it’s
all on the meat you don’t think that
people that are fans of you would like
to hear what what you had in mind maybe
or what they have have in mind you know
probably interpreted you would yeah I’d
like to get some letters this is what my
analytical my person’s what
creator lyrics are about you know
doesn’t matter it doesn’t matter you
don’t we do is we get all drunk and be
getting these heavy philosophical
conversations but we are as we’re pot
head philosophers with no type of
studious background or anything we just
okay so what’s your relationship now is
Sub Pop tower how are things with them
get along with those guys I mean we stop
by and say hi that’s about it really
we’re pretty much off the label around
e.t.c e.t.c does all the work there what
there was a there was a Sub Pop logo the
one in the first single or whatever yeah
it’s gonna be on the record – it’s just
it’s a contractual obligation basically
that’s it no it was there was a little
bit of bad blood at first though wasn’t
there when you guys were leaving yeah
yeah yeah it was I think a lot of that
was lack of communication and
assumptions but now we put all that
behind us now and just get along because
there’s no reason to
right forgive and forget hot brother now
you’re gonna come back after a certain
period of time and do like a freebie
single or anything like Soundgarden did
or a freebie single just like my Uncle
Jim said nothing in this world is free
but I don’t know we might do we’ll
probably do something like that it’s
always fun to release things maybe we’ll
just go and release something you know
maybe we’ll record a record with people
on work release so see because if they
want to get on work release you have to
have a job guarantee so they’ll get out
of jail that way so we’ll just like
guarantee them a job and they’ll get out
of jail we got to help our friends
I actually scratched into the runoff
grooves on the cat but twelve-inch was
something about if the man from Geffen
shows up just shoot him in the head or
something like that she doesn’t know
anything about that
no no so there was something I
discovered just recently I thought it
was really ironic but single that you
had a long time I came out a long time
maybe they had a bad experience to
somebody to get fit well I just wanted
to get them have been sort of around
trying to sign up other yeah Giffen try
to sign sign cat but huh okay so now
we’ve just got a brand new video from
you guys and does somebody want to tell
me about that or you don’t want to
explain that it’s just there too we did
it with Max Baer TV’s Jethro on The
Beverly Hillbillies oh it was Sam
they’re wrong guy well this guy no with
this video is your is a takes place in a
high school gym and it’s like a crazy
pep assembly it’s plumb Loco okay no I’d
use that song for the video first single
and all that
oh just we just kind of sit here what
songs we were asked what songs you guys
wanted to put out first as a single and
we just thought about it I say this song
to that song
then we thumb wrestled and we saw it
teen spirit was – teen spirit is our
first single now as an smell like teen
spirit it’s note from a deodorant
commercial or something so where you
guys got it from no we didn’t get it
from that we found that out later pure
coincidence it is pure coincidence yeah
it’s such a big world you know it’s a
small world it’s kind of a medium-size
world like if you hook put the planet
Earth between Jupiter and like Uranus
okay do you know that’s this the biggest
you know the biggest star in the
universe in the whole galaxy universe is
big as an atom is small do you know that
is that while that’s more pothead
philosophy now in between in between the
the last Sub Pop thing and this album
there seems to been a lot of bootlegs
released and I just wondered how you
guys felt about the live stuff that’s
fine stuff that’s unreleased and wasn’t
intended for release in the first place
that’s when it starts getting kind of
hairy well they always sound like crap
anyway I mean whether it’s live check
out these other great clips from
WatchMojo and be sure to subscribe and
ring the bell to be notified about our latest videos
to watchmojo.com today we’re bringing
you a classic clip from the much vault
where Nirvana refuses to label their
music you guys want to see trolls before
trolls or even a thing
check out this 1991 era interview first
things first I guess I read I read the
first page of your bio and you’re
talking about punk rock now our new van
is still a punk punk band I liked
biorhythm machines and I put my hand in
one and it was a pretty Punk read out it
cut my hand said Lord your soul punk
[Music]
does that does that term still apply to
you guys so are you you know have you
moved I don’t think we’ve ever been
labeled as punk rock in the first place
we just played in the underground
circuit we like punk rock more than any
other style of music so yeah everybody
was sort of into punk rock before the
band really evolved anyway so it’s
definitely everyone was sort of bread on
the punk thing okay no I’m sure you
dislike labels but then where do you see
I think what did they call it before the
the Sub Pop sound
oh yeah the Sub Pop sound that’s right
yeah grudge crimes Seattle I can’t I
can’t decide oh yeah
but then but the bacillus wrong the Sub
Pop thing wouldn’t apply anymore though
there’s still a label so we’re yeah
MCA Europe in Canada we’re mca okay now
again like I realize I know I realize
you guys dislike the labels but I mean
it’s still a case of I mean our labels
the way people label people people of
race creed or color national origin
brother we’re all here on this floating
sphere through space okay see this is a
little bit different though because I
think to a certain extent people like
people that are out there want to know
because it helps them decide whether
they like it or not right I mean yeah
that’s not that’s not necessarily a
category thing but it’s still like we’d
all like to say that we’re the Black
Sabbath and molesting the Bay City
Rollers or the knack maybe okay well
that was something else
that would then have every something
else
I wanted to ask you guys about now you
mentioned the knock on the Bay City
Rollers are there aspects of those bands
in your music and where are they fashion
wise this Bay City Rollers all the way
just wait till we go on
there’s gonna be this inverted plaid
cross just gonna be with ozzy osbourne
with that woody shag crucified on it
okay now were you guys fans of those
bands seriously I was I don’t I I
despised the Bay City Rollers when I was
nine my sister liked them but I didn’t I
bought the Saturday night single but I
like him now I have all their albums you
like yeah okay cuz I guess you guys also
talked about how you’re a pop band yet I
don’t know I wonder how many people
would really describe you in that way
well a lot of people do just because the
songs are you know they may be really
heavy but they have some sort of melody
to them I mean they’re like poppy songs
but music okay how do you how do you
feel though about the crossover into the
metal market well maybe we can view
those kids they could go from
worshipping Satan to being studious and
alternative and some of the alternative
people could be like smoking pot on
their Camaro hoods hoods of their
Camaros it’ll be a Camaro those will be
trade off yeah it’ll be joint forces
unite all potheads and bookworms come
together okay now now now one of the one
of the things I was reading though you
were being interviewed in a metal
magazine and someone one of the members
of the band wasn’t very happy about that
what’s that a pubic hair look it’s curly
and cranky oh I don’t know I don’t know
where did you where did you get that who
sent you what platters are we gonna be
able to get in front we are well I don’t
know you know a lot of heavy metal is I
don’t really care for a lot of heavy may
at all you know what I mean a lot of
it’s just kind of good I mean to each
her own right okay but then I guess the
fact that you then appealing to that
market or you’re having a fans of those
bands come out to see you guys that
doesn’t bother you or that’s something
you’d like to happen all we’d like for
that to happen sure people could come in
and check our band out why not see
people come and like the music and
that’s fine if they come and think we’re
a heavy metal band you know I went to
this show in Olympia and The Melvins
opened for this like heavy metal band
and all the punk rockers and stuff you
know the metal the metal people just
gave them Melvin’s a bunch of hooey
and then when the metal band came out
the punk rockers who came for the moment
they got into the metal band but it
seemed like the metal people kind of
freaked out they were weird
I don’t know what it was maybe something
like eight years ago – yeah now that
metallic are wearing misfits t-shirts I
think it’s had a big impact
James Hetfield gave the legions of
rockers the okay they’re like punk rock
so it must be okay now
now being on a bigger label are you guys
involved like I mean there must be
meetings about marketing and stuff like
that do you guys have any say about that
stuff or is it just something that you
just leave up to the label we don’t go
to the meetings you can imagine second
one back to school you know we just we
sit that out fluorescent lights hurt my
eyes so things how have things changed
for you guys now being on a bigger label
to be on MuchMusic yeah we’re prompt
we’ve brought watches we have tour
managers now we don’t get up at one
o’clock in the morning because last time
we were here we were like just us three
you know driving around get up whenever
we wanted whoo man that’s a pretty long
drive to Toronto we better get going I
got yeah and then we’re like show up as
it we’re ready to go on okay now you
recorded you recorded your album with
Butch Vig now why did you choose him for
the producer because we worked with him
before about a year ago we attempted to
record our album with him it turned out
really well
but we were in the middle of doing the
Sub Pop negotiations trying to get out
of that contract undies do you see so it
just seemed like the best thing to do
you know to work with someone who’s
familiar with us still you’d done demos
with a few other people those well
hadn’t you we did the demos that’s what
he’s talking about we know but I thought
there was other producers you guys we
were just Jack and Dina that’s about it
nobody else
never did any demos with them and was
was there stuff you had heard by butch
before you’d worked with him that kind
of decided it or it sounded really good
there was like laughing hyenas and
killdozer pretty crunchy meaty stuff we
thought yeah I would try this guy off so
we did the demos and then never can’t
nothing came out of that so we called
him again and he flew down to LA and we
all flew to LA and we drove to LA why
drove yeah we drove to LA he flew and we
made this record took us about a month
and he butchers really hands-on as a
producer and engineer you know he’s just
totally in it all the way so he’s so
easygoing and stuff too now the first
one was recorded the first one was
recorded fairly quickly now where
there’s certain things you set out to do
differently this time around or it was
just an entirely different set of
circumstances this time around you know
an entirely different set of
what did we set out to do different a
different studio different producer and
we different state we just did that
whole major label go to Hollywood and
record a record thing but we didn’t get
stuck with some goofball producer we got
the producer we wanted you know and we
don’t really have any regrets about how
it turned out we think it turned out
great and what we did but I think next
time around kind of gonna choose a
different path because there’s such a
well-worn I’m gonna draw it off track
it’s a different different path religion
no we’re gonna record in a church no a
different path I don’t know I think we
might record the rednecks record as we
go along
right we might recorded on a boombox
we might record the record like in an
airplane bathroom because of the dynamic
acoustics just depends you know we did
our go to Hollywood just like I said we
did
Hollywood trip maybe we’ll record in
somewhere else maybe some natural over
recording some Greek theater somewhere
in Greece idea Acropolis or something
okay now that the first one was done
more or less as a live thing so this
time around was it was it consciously
like a studio effort and and away from
the live sound I don’t think the first
album was live I mean we recorded it in
the studio we overdubbed all guitar and
vocals
it was done like four days or I don’t
even forget how many days under a week
three four or five days I’m like that
six hundred bucks but you know what we
were all we were mixing it we were
really sick and Kurt went down to the
health department
and he got these uh codeine cough syrups
and we were just popping those and we
were just like in la-la land and then we
were like hands on producers just
cooking on this codeine joy juice I
think it had a big effect on how that
record turned down that’s an honest
truth okay now with the the cover of the
new record is is there a certain concept
you guys are trying to put across with
the cover it’s open for interpretation
you know think about a baby swimming
through water dollar bill on a hook you
know that’s a fun part of it decipher
maybe person could find a new way of
life it’s we’re speaking of paths they
can find they can take off their clothes
and bite into a fish hook and water see
how that feels
well I said I sort of thought it related
to the band though who’s this is sort of
your first jump in the the water towards
the huge bucks and all that seat okay
well I never thought of that then well
there you go that works to see something
for interpretation
and that’s the whole idea you guys don’t
like explaining anything to do with your
music or to do with what you’re doing
just like Ricardo said splain Lucy
now okay now why don’t you like talking
about it though what’s what’s the
problem with going on camera and just
relating a little story to do with it
there’s nothing to be said it’s all in
the music man it’s all on the music it’s
all on the meat you don’t think that
people that are fans of you would like
to hear what what you had in mind maybe
or what they have have in mind you know
probably interpreted you would yeah I’d
like to get some letters this is what my
analytical my person’s what
creator lyrics are about you know
doesn’t matter it doesn’t matter you
don’t we do is we get all drunk and be
getting these heavy philosophical
conversations but we are as we’re pot
head philosophers with no type of
studious background or anything we just
okay so what’s your relationship now is
Sub Pop tower how are things with them
get along with those guys I mean we stop
by and say hi that’s about it really
we’re pretty much off the label around
e.t.c e.t.c does all the work there what
there was a there was a Sub Pop logo the
one in the first single or whatever yeah
it’s gonna be on the record – it’s just
it’s a contractual obligation basically
that’s it no it was there was a little
bit of bad blood at first though wasn’t
there when you guys were leaving yeah
yeah yeah it was I think a lot of that
was lack of communication and
assumptions but now we put all that
behind us now and just get along because
there’s no reason to
right forgive and forget hot brother now
you’re gonna come back after a certain
period of time and do like a freebie
single or anything like Soundgarden did
or a freebie single just like my Uncle
Jim said nothing in this world is free
but I don’t know we might do we’ll
probably do something like that it’s
always fun to release things maybe we’ll
just go and release something you know
maybe we’ll record a record with people
on work release so see because if they
want to get on work release you have to
have a job guarantee so they’ll get out
of jail that way so we’ll just like
guarantee them a job and they’ll get out
of jail we got to help our friends
I actually scratched into the runoff
grooves on the cat but twelve-inch was
something about if the man from Geffen
shows up just shoot him in the head or
something like that she doesn’t know
anything about that
no no so there was something I
discovered just recently I thought it
was really ironic but single that you
had a long time I came out a long time
maybe they had a bad experience to
somebody to get fit well I just wanted
to get them have been sort of around
trying to sign up other yeah Giffen try
to sign sign cat but huh okay so now
we’ve just got a brand new video from
you guys and does somebody want to tell
me about that or you don’t want to
explain that it’s just there too we did
it with Max Baer TV’s Jethro on The
Beverly Hillbillies oh it was Sam
they’re wrong guy well this guy no with
this video is your is a takes place in a
high school gym and it’s like a crazy
pep assembly it’s plumb Loco okay no I’d
use that song for the video first single
and all that
oh just we just kind of sit here what
songs we were asked what songs you guys
wanted to put out first as a single and
we just thought about it I say this song
to that song
then we thumb wrestled and we saw it
teen spirit was – teen spirit is our
first single now as an smell like teen
spirit it’s note from a deodorant
commercial or something so where you
guys got it from no we didn’t get it
from that we found that out later pure
coincidence it is pure coincidence yeah
it’s such a big world you know it’s a
small world it’s kind of a medium-size
world like if you hook put the planet
Earth between Jupiter and like Uranus
okay do you know that’s this the biggest
you know the biggest star in the
universe in the whole galaxy universe is
big as an atom is small do you know that
is that while that’s more pothead
philosophy now in between in between the
the last Sub Pop thing and this album
there seems to been a lot of bootlegs
released and I just wondered how you
guys felt about the live stuff that’s
fine stuff that’s unreleased and wasn’t
intended for release in the first place
that’s when it starts getting kind of
hairy well they always sound like crap
anyway I mean whether it’s live check
out these other great clips from
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