hi I’m your host Leila 4 watchmojo.com
joining us Tarek Fatah author of chasing
a mirage to discuss the tragic illusion
of an Islamic state so in your own words
what is a Muslim vs. an Islamist a
Muslim is someone who believes in the 5
commandments of the prophet and the
Quran which are very simple which is the
belief in the unity of God the fact that
we all required to pay a wealth tax at
the end of every year to the poor one
month a year for 30 days we fast to show
solidarity with the blue and hungry if
wealth permits once in lifetime we go to
Hajj and on a daily basis pray to God
whenever type some five times a day but
all these five requirements do not
require political entity that is a
Muslim an Islamist is someone who uses
the identities of Islam and in fact then
goes on to say we can’t do this without
having a political authority and so the
use of Islam as a political tool is what
makes a Muslim into an Islamist you
comment on the conflict that occurred
early after the prophets death in 632
and you mentioned that there are
competing narratives so how can we
determine the most accurate accounts one
way is to give reading to all accounts
we don’t know which one is the right
account we need to accept how many
accounts are there and we need to study
Islamic history as the subject of
history not as a subject of faith if the
two main narratives are unfortunately
divided in security in terms as the Shia
and the Sunni the fact remains that once
the Prophet died he was in the his own
house and instead of looking after
would be done about his funeral or
giving him his last rites everybody
rushed off to a place a few miles away
where the people of madinah had gathered
and were deciding to nominally elect one
of their own as the leader of the
Muslims the other thing is the Prophet
never asked for a succession the Quran
didn’t say that Muslims need to create a
physical entity which is a political
state there’s nothing wrong with them
creating that but my contention is it
had more of an Arab first characteristic
than an Islamic characteristic
questioning clergy involves taking risks
a lot of people aren’t willing to take
so then what are the risks of remaining
complacent well the risk of remaining
complacent is that my fate will be the
hands of the people who are least
respect these are people who despite
coming to Canada and the United States
despite living over here still take the
inspiration from a terrible societies
where the human spirit gets crushed they
propagate misogyny the second-class
status of women they practice homophobia
by declaring gays and lesbians as worthy
of death and then have the audacity to
come on television and say oh no we give
equal treatment to women women who we
sent to the back of the bus so in the
basement in a mosque for the last row we
do so because we respect them you think
anyone’s buying that long before we
asked any non-muslim to understand about
Islam Muslims need to understand Islam
before that they need to share all the
superstitious magical
grow axe that they think is part of
Islam and get back to the five basic
things which is pea charity donate
something do something good and if they
really want to be respected clear the
neighbors ice during a nice strong like
you say bring them back to piety not
politics
absolutely
joining us Tarek Fatah author of chasing
a mirage to discuss the tragic illusion
of an Islamic state so in your own words
what is a Muslim vs. an Islamist a
Muslim is someone who believes in the 5
commandments of the prophet and the
Quran which are very simple which is the
belief in the unity of God the fact that
we all required to pay a wealth tax at
the end of every year to the poor one
month a year for 30 days we fast to show
solidarity with the blue and hungry if
wealth permits once in lifetime we go to
Hajj and on a daily basis pray to God
whenever type some five times a day but
all these five requirements do not
require political entity that is a
Muslim an Islamist is someone who uses
the identities of Islam and in fact then
goes on to say we can’t do this without
having a political authority and so the
use of Islam as a political tool is what
makes a Muslim into an Islamist you
comment on the conflict that occurred
early after the prophets death in 632
and you mentioned that there are
competing narratives so how can we
determine the most accurate accounts one
way is to give reading to all accounts
we don’t know which one is the right
account we need to accept how many
accounts are there and we need to study
Islamic history as the subject of
history not as a subject of faith if the
two main narratives are unfortunately
divided in security in terms as the Shia
and the Sunni the fact remains that once
the Prophet died he was in the his own
house and instead of looking after
would be done about his funeral or
giving him his last rites everybody
rushed off to a place a few miles away
where the people of madinah had gathered
and were deciding to nominally elect one
of their own as the leader of the
Muslims the other thing is the Prophet
never asked for a succession the Quran
didn’t say that Muslims need to create a
physical entity which is a political
state there’s nothing wrong with them
creating that but my contention is it
had more of an Arab first characteristic
than an Islamic characteristic
questioning clergy involves taking risks
a lot of people aren’t willing to take
so then what are the risks of remaining
complacent well the risk of remaining
complacent is that my fate will be the
hands of the people who are least
respect these are people who despite
coming to Canada and the United States
despite living over here still take the
inspiration from a terrible societies
where the human spirit gets crushed they
propagate misogyny the second-class
status of women they practice homophobia
by declaring gays and lesbians as worthy
of death and then have the audacity to
come on television and say oh no we give
equal treatment to women women who we
sent to the back of the bus so in the
basement in a mosque for the last row we
do so because we respect them you think
anyone’s buying that long before we
asked any non-muslim to understand about
Islam Muslims need to understand Islam
before that they need to share all the
superstitious magical
grow axe that they think is part of
Islam and get back to the five basic
things which is pea charity donate
something do something good and if they
really want to be respected clear the
neighbors ice during a nice strong like
you say bring them back to piety not
politics
absolutely
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