and joining me today is our esteemed
director Manny how you doing
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let’s get right to the movie last night
we went to go see Pacific Rim to
uprising uprising not down rising
uprising cadets you better gear up so
the big question that we’re asking here
is it does it live up to the original
Pacific Rim many you were fan of the
first one I love the first one I love
gilma guttural the only thing I didn’t
like from the first one was Charlie
Hunnam oh yeah okay yeah you’re gonna
say Charlie Day Charlie Day no Charlie
Day is awesome he’s the best in
everything I myself loved the first one
as well I had high hopes for this and
then I realized that Alto is involved
simply as like a producer like a name
only in name only yeah I feel like when
you walk into this movie right away you
notice that it is no not a del Toro
movie not at 100% and that you get
literally just by the way the first
movie just in the first five minutes
they give you like I feel like this
movie’s like kind of a soft reboot but
they’re keeping what happened in the
first one in the continuity right now so
they’re like yeah all these things
happen look all these things happen
Kyoto movie yeah del Toro made them
we’re running with it
kaijus our thing you know like Yeager’s
are a thing all that’s still all here so
like but it’s different and it’s new how
they get into our world someone that I
mean
someone from out well well let’s just
throw it out there I you liked it I
don’t know it’s a great time at the
movies yeah I when we walked out you
were a bit yeesh directed by Stephen s
tonight who’s known mostly for Spartacus
like mostly TV stuff and season one of
daredevil on Netflix yeah which he did a
great job on yeah no way is this guy an
inferior director to del Toro I think
he’s great
you don’t think he’s inferior to go
through in this movie hmm probably but
as a director take that director I think
he’s he’s good I mean his stuff is solid
his episodes of Spartacus were fun his
episodes of daredevil were fun yeah but
you compare that to Pan’s Labyrinth or
Hellboy I mean you know what we’re we’re
really different styles different stuff
that’s different okay
well agree to disagree but I’m right
okay so starring John boyega who plays
Jake Pentecost great name not as great
as his father made in the in the first
movie by Aegis Elba yeah Scott Eastwood
as well Charlie Day is back and a lot of
big-name Chinese actors who kind of have
big hearts in this movie one of my
favorite new additions was Kaylee spane
I’m saying that terribly but the younger
the young girl in the movie I thought
she was really fun I thought she brought
like a cool little badass characteristic
to her person you know personality wise
it was fun the way she interacted with
John boyega that was really cool see I
didn’t think he was like III like Finn
but I just thought I thought right off
the bat this movie that the dialogue is
supposed to be all like yeah and it ends
up being clunky and not flowing well
like to me as soon as I walked in like
you said you’re it this is clear it’s
not the same movie it’s not the same
team yeah but I think I was more
expecting it to be a lot different from
the first one
just because I’m like okay so none of
the original people are involved only a
name so I guess maybe you know like
whatever we’ll see how this goes
that’s my new attitude walking into
movies with all the stuff we’ve seen and
a lot of the disappointment I’ve
experienced or I was like you know what
I’m gonna go in I was gonna eat my
popcorn but you ate it all so you know
okay that’s fine okay let’s get to the
to the meat here the the kaijus and the
jaegers yeah my biggest problem is that
for example in the first one you really
felt the heft of these creatures you I
was i I was I was in awe when I watched
the first one because you can you can
feel their heft you can smell the engine
grease you can you can feel the twisted
that the steel twisting and yet in this
one everything was just so light and
fluffy and CGI yeah and it felt more
like a Transformers movie than it did a
tribute to the old kaiju movies actually
Dan one of our hosts from mojo plays
when I spoke to him about the movie he
told me that the first movie had this
over luring sense of danger all the time
salutely that there was always a risk
that stakes were say stakes were high in
this movie it’s kind of like they took
care of that in the first movie and in
this one they’re all like yeah yeah
there’s no more it’s kind of like just a
training everybody’s here we’re training
we’re kind of doing our thing it’s
there’s no danger and when the moments
come up where it’s kind of dangerous
these characters have been so nonchalant
the whole movie so when shit hits the
fan it’s kind of like okay they’re most
likely going to take care of it all so
we’ve been watching this movie for an
hour so it’s not but it’s just like you
know when they’re you know when they’re
trampling through the cities or when
they’re falling into the buildings in
the first one I that that’s exactly that
I got that sense of danger there’s
people who are suffering there’s people
in danger yeah this was just I guess
indicative of a lot of these giant
monsters superhero movies of today where
you know the collateral damage is just
an afterthought and and you know the
screaming people like ah I think that
speaks to del toro’s directing style is
that he understands the monster movie
and he understands when you walk into
one of these movies as of as a cinema
goer you want to feel that danger and he
depicts that perfectly yeah where I
think other directors kind of don’t get
that and they kind of want to give you a
visual spectacle I mean the fights in
this movie are super cool the hero shots
of the jaegers make sense how they
intercut the pilots working with the
jaegers that i always like
that was really awesome but again I
agree with you that and I agree with
then that that sense of danger is not
there in this movie is it a fun movie
you’re gonna walk into this movie and be
like yeah I was entertained you know
like I could have went drinking and got
hammered but you know I saw this movie
and I’m content with my decision it’s
fun it’s a fun time at the movies
I’d rather get this movie I and and just
to speak to your point about del Toro he
is you feel his reverence for monster
movies yeah in that first one in every
time even the shape of water you know
that a tribute to Creature from the
Black Lagoon there’s a reverence for
what came before
whereas this movie to me feels more like
a mix of Transformers and fast and
furious it’s it’s disposable dialogue
the the monsters move in such a way that
you know you’re not sure you don’t feel
like you’re watching something that
could literally come and crush you it’s
it there’s a distance between you and
the action and you know I I never
understood why I didn’t like
Transformers movies because on paper
it’s great big huge robots that are
fighting each other you know and
crushing things in the city but
something about it it’s it’s like
there’s a compression there’s a there’s
a there’s a certain sense that it’s just
it’s it’s not surreal it’s just it’s not
real it’s it’s also fake and the first
one had a little bit more reality
grounded in there this one is it’s just
pure fantasy without any any stakes yeah
I find the stakes are missing in this
movie they build it up it’s kind of like
a soft reboot I feel that they kind of
want to wrap up this trilogy and do all
three of them maybe it’ll do good at the
box office maybe it won’t is it fun yeah
what I tell our viewers – everybody’s
got a rush out and go see Pacific Rim
you’re at the theater you want to see it
my 3d but it’ll sneak in to see this
after you’ve seen another movie okay
quickly Charlie Day everybody loves
Charlie Day you know he brings I feel
like he’s like the studio walked up to
him and said hey come into Pacific Rim –
and he’s like yeah you know I’m not
really a hundred percent on this maybe
maybe not
cuz him and the girl who was Charlie
Hunnam copilot in the first one they’re
the only two and one other scientists
that come back from the first one and I
feel like all of them kind of came back
as like yeah sure we’ll come on it’s the
sequel but Vegas how much you paying us
and we’re kind of gonna take these
characters in the direction we want and
I think that’s how Charlie they approach
this movie he was fun as always he’s
always great to watch he’s a little bit
more over the top then a little bit more
over the top that he kind of falls into
that supervillain category and this one
so well and I just think to see what
happens next because clearly there’s
another one coming
yeah they set it up for a sequel that’s
for sure exactly and maybe it’ll be the
rich I don’t think del Toro’s coming
back to this I don’t think he’s I think
he’s content with just getting his check
in the mail and he’s like yeah thanks
thanks for my Pacific Rim money and I’m
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