Press "Enter" to skip to content

Your Reality Might Not be Mine: Sensory Perception and Empathy | Poppy Crum | TEDxLA


I believe we can be more human if we

accept more than one reality in February

2015

something happened it had a divisive

impact on the world

people said it challenged their

objective truth Time magazine said it

changed the course of internet history

forever I’d like to call it a fashion

disagreement but there’s something more

important about this we have a really

hard time accepting that we experience

the physical world differently many of

you remember the image of this dress a

lot of us see it differently some people

see it as white and gold some people see

it as blue and black I happen to see it

as white and gold turns out I’m wrong

the color you can go buy in the store is

actually blue and black but it’s not

about the actual color of the dress

that’s not what matters what matter is

how our brain perceives the color in

this image people have looked at things

like demographics whether that drive

these differences does it matter if

you’re a boy or a girl young or old or

what kind of lighting environments

you’ve spent time in and at the core of

all of these is that how we experience

the world your brain is constantly

integrating information about your

life’s experiences in this case about

luminance shadow and color to make

probabilistic decisions and it turns out

that we all have slightly different

information going into that equation so

I can bias you if I change the context

to see this image differently hopefully

maybe we see it differently now but I

can also take it away and hopefully now

we all see it the same these kinds of

perceptual Mally abilities happen all

the time so I’m hoping we can take some

time and think about where there’s power

and opportunity in understanding these

differences I’m going to tell you some

stories

some are personal some are about art

some are about immersive technologies

but they’re all about the power of

gaining empathy to each other’s

experiences that if we can understand

how we can see hear and feel the exact

same information in the world in

entirely different ways we have an

opportunity we have an opportunity a

chance to move away from all of the

dehumanization that people talk about

and rehumanize our interactions and the

technologies we built and used to do

this I’ve been a violinist since I was

three I was nine the first time I knew

my I heard the world a little

differently I always assumed everyone

knew my refrigerator hum to be flat

could write down the notes of a song or

was like really uncomfortable if happy

birth they didn’t start on Adi and I

have absolute pitch not particularly

unique in this way there are plenty of

us who have this we hear sound a lot

like many of us see color but it does

mean we see we hear the world

differently it’s not good or bad

it just is consequently I’ve spent my

life as a neurophysiologist as a

technologist and as a musician trying to

understand these differences in

perception in the brain processes that

drive them as scientists we spend our

lives trying to understand and look for

the ways for the most similar I truly

believe that the innovation leaps and

interaction leaps we need to make are

going to come from understanding the

ways were the most different for example

so before my mom passed away she had

macular degeneration she would say

something to me like I can see but I

can’t see so it’s kind of a nonsensical

statement what do you do with something

like that macular degeneration typically

involves deterioration of the central

part of someone’s retina people with it

experience a blind spot in their central

vision I get ocular migraines the types

of migraines I get a wave of innervation

travels through my brain and my brain

areas important for my central vision

when those cells are being innovated by

that wave they can’t respond to

information in the external world and I

develop a blind spot in my central

vision it looks a lot like this if you

try reading and tracking the yellow dot

you’ll see this is this is a lot like

the experience I have so for 15 minutes

a year when I’m having this type of

in order to see something I have to look

away from it when she says to me I

concede what I can’t see I get it

I can empathize and I change I changed

the way I think about innovations to

help her life I spent time building

contraptions that magnified what she was

looking away from instead of what she

was looking at and I fundamentally think

differently about the types of

interactions I can have with her to

connect it’s this place where a headache

and messed up vision that so many we

spend our times trying to avoid actually

gave me invaluable insight to my mom’s

world but it’s not always that easy to

see both sides

sometimes we’re doing it and we don’t

even know it unfortunately though no

truly knowing what someone is hearing

feeling or seeing is is difficult it’s

difficult to know when it’s happening

and even when it is most of us don’t

even know how to describe it but there

are people who are really good at

describing what they see and it gives us

this opportunity to peek into their

sensory world and ways we might not even

realize there’s a condition called

facial dysmorphia so people that have

facial dis Marfatia don’t see faces

naturally when they’re looking at a face

the features appear to move so

everywhere their gaze is directed they

develop a blind spot and it fills them

with nearby information this gives the

illusion of sort of movement of the

faces and sort of contorted and

distorted figures I’m going to show you

an example of that

I was only willing to do this to my face

that’s why you get to look at me but

if you stare at the little cross I may

follow the yellow crosses and you’ll

sort of get an idea of what this

experience might look like for someone

with this condition okay so you saw that

it also kind of looks like this Francis

Bacon was 20th century painter very well

known for painting abstract art the

import rates that were a contorted sort

of distorted figures it turns out

Francis Bacon had a condition that was

likely facial dysmorphia so when he was

sharing what we look at the art in this

case he was actually representing how he

truly saw the world Monet’s water lilies

so this is something I noticed when I

was looking at this painting that I

thought was interesting so if you stare

I find that when I stare at one of the

lilies and I close one I go ahead and do

that

I actually the lily seems to pop out

more almost as if it’s in 3d okay so I’m

not an art historian art critic but I am

a scientist and when I see things like

this I got ahead of hypotheses about

Monet’s vision there are different

pieces of information ways that we

accuse we take in from the world to be

able to know where an object is in space

and depth in particular some of those

cues make use of one eye we call them

monocular some of those cubes make use

of two eyes and we call them binocular

cues like color shading and occlusion

whether one objects in front of the

other all of those can we can get from

one eye but cues that require two eyes

something like relative disparity which

is actually a very important cue

required that both eyes are functioning

functioning normally so I had a

hypothesis that Monet actually couldn’t

make use of the information coming from

both eyes turns out Monet had very bad

cataracts and when you started looking

around his cataracts were so bad that

when he

painting water lilies he actually had

one of the cataracts removed and this is

a time when we didn’t trip late when

lenses weren’t replaced so money

couldn’t have made use of the

information from two eyes but the

information from one eye was likely very

developed at making use of that

information so when you look at this

painting now and you look through one

eye you really are

seeing it more like Monet there’s a

power to seeing both sides but we don’t

always get the clairvoyance of the Manta

Magritte’s painting but we can accept

and understand the power perspective has

on perception so I’m going to show you

an example where something as simple as

changing your gaze completely changes

how you experience the world I want you

all to look up to the right hand corner

and you’re gonna there’s some sunlight

in the water and you should see bubbles

that are sort of rising up to the

surface if you’re staring at that Sun

like those bubbles probably appear to

sort go up and fly off the screen does

everyone see that and they fly off the

screen kind of at an angle now shift

your gaze to where the bubbles are okay

so now you probably realize those

bubbles are going straight up you can go

back and forth this experience happens

because our brain has a trouble

resolving conflicting information about

local and global motion the bubbles have

a horizontal grating that’s moving

across them while they’re rising

vertically when your gaze is directed at

the bubbles we can separate them and we

can experience them both as they are but

when your gaze is directed away we

experience an integration of that

but of course I like to put a bigger

message on it so there are a few things

here it’s the power of perspective

something as simple as moving my gaze

completely changes how I experience

what’s in front of me and when I my gaze

when my perspective is directed in one

place or another I can’t choose to see

it differently even though I’ve had the

experience before I don’t get to I know

it’s there but I can’t experience the

same way my perspective determines how I

experience it but I do have the power to

choose to know that someone else might

be experiencing it’s that way right now

the human problem is different and it’s

there’s a lot of opacity here we don’t

always know the state of our biology and

our brains constantly change things like

hearing loss or changes in our vision

these are happening all the time to our

lower sensory processes but even things

like our environments affect our context

and affect our sensitivities whether we

grew up in a village in Afghanistan or a

town in the Midwest or in a city like

New York or Kathmandu with different

pressures neuroplasticity helps us take

the information that’s statistically

prevalent and relevant in our

environments and make use of it so that

we change to adapt to our environments

things like color shading contour all

tried this cultural language differences

and the categorical boundaries we form

can cause us to have different

experiences at the most basic level of

whether we see green or blue some are

more obvious some less so and sometimes

we actually get an opportunity to try on

each other sensory experiences we did

this with a pair of arthritis simulation

gloves what we wanted to do here was see

if we could take a group of

non-designers and give them an

empathetic experience of their target

user group to work with and

it would change how they thought about

the problem how would it change their

cognitive approach to the problem the

group with the gloves did change they

thought about simplicity in their design

they thought about space they got rid of

things like drop-down menus which are

you know completely terrible for anyone

with digit mobility issues they changed

how they thought about the problem and

they changed what they thought was

important immersive technologies like

augmented and virtual reality are really

starting to try to bridge this gap to

empathy in the case of the arthritis

gloves experience was powerful it gave

them an empathetic experience that was

actionable in what they did but we have

to go further we have to go further than

just showing experiences we have to

actually engage sensory experiences in a

way that is authentic and natural to how

our senses interact in the natural world

so let me give you an example of where I

when I realized how powerful that this

was if we did this right in we were

developing some cond some new

technologies adult imaging technologies

at my company one of the things we were

looking at was the impact of brightness

just so you realize a typical display

you would have bought three years ago

was 310 dollars per square meter the

natural moon is about one to two

thousand candelas we were looking at

luminances much brighter than that and

we were looking at fire content so we

were watching this fire content and

something happened people reacted I’ve

reacted in ways I hadn’t predicted just

by seeing an image of fire and watching

this my body started to expel heat as if

it were real we took we could take

thermal imaging cameras and measure

changes in the temperature on people’s

faces we could the screen wasn’t

changing but we were reacting to the

content in a way that was natural

in this case all my brain knew was it

had never experienced fire that was that

right and wasn’t real so it did what it

did best and just based on the luminance

reaching my retina and my knowledge of

flame my body did what it does if we are

gonna build experiences to try to bridge

and share and gain empathy to each

other’s experiences we have to build

immersive acknowledged ease that bridge

this natural sensory experience so I’ve

been talking a lot about why we should

care about empathy and why we need to

have empathy but there is one problem

what we don’t get empathy unless we make

ourselves vulnerable and we don’t like

to do that Beethoven lived in fear that

people would find out he was going deaf

and losing his hearing we have more and

more outlets which we all use where we

get to curate who we are and what people

see about us but we know from game

theory prisoner’s dilemma Nash

equilibrium that we end up in a

suboptimal state not as good as we could

do if we don’t share our vulnerabilities

so to get to the place where we want to

be we have to be able to empathize with

others vulnerabilities but we also have

to be willing to share our own so the

next time you interact with someone and

it doesn’t make sense to the way you see

the world it challenges it maybe they

challenge you rather than assuming they

have the same information to make

decisions about the world that you do

assume they don’t assume it’s different

empathy and experience are powerful and

they give us an opportunity to change we

can change our behaviors we can change

our technologies we can change our

assumptions about why someone might be

interacting with us in a way that we

don’t particularly like we need to

change our perspective if you could see

hear or feel someone else’s

alternate reality today and question

your own perceptions what will you

change thank you [Applause]

Please follow and like us: