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Why the Journey is More Important than the Destination | Ronny Sen | TEDxJadavpurUniversity


hello everyone what I would do today is

I’ll take you through this little

journey which I had and why I decided to

become a photographer it why I chose to

do what I’m doing this all began 1012

years back and these were times which

were difficult which was very difficult

why they were difficult and what they

were is another talk for some other day

but I remember quite well that all of a

sudden it became like a mad obsession

you know photography and living with

photographs looking at photographs and

suddenly I realized after a couple of

years that it was only photography that

I was doing there was nothing else I was

shifting colleges I was shifting cities

different houses trying to settle down

with life because it was very chaotic it

was important to calm down and when

people used to ask me that what do you

do I had no answer because I I was doing

nothing so photography at some level

give some sort of meaning you know some

sort of sense to everything

– this loveliness so I started saying

that I’m a photographer and people

started believing I could enter spaces

which I would otherwise wouldn’t have

entered and back in those days it was

very difficult to really do what you

wanted to do because in order to be a

photographer you had to be a

do weddings are there were different

various kinds of things that other

people were doing and I found them very

boring here

that’s not what I wanted to do there

were trouble in the family that what

this guy is going to do but they were

happy that I was doing something we had

to travel from one city to the other in

order to see a profit show because the

city never had these things so I

remember that there was this suffocation

it was it was really lonely to be a

photographer you couldn’t make people

understand what you are doing and

photography is such a medium where it

only interests photographers and that

was another concern that what am I going

to talk about as a photographer in a TED

talk because the normal people they

don’t really care about photography

which is absolutely fine but this is how

it is and that was one one thing time

when I was looking at work because

internet had just come not like this

generation when they had internet from

+56 we hadn’t internet at a sort of time

when we were giving class 10 11 12 or

something like that so we would suppose

to different kinds of photography so I

knew that

you know I mean I’m not getting anywhere

like four or five months of hard work is

not getting us anywhere

trial and error you do this for some

time and you do something else and then

I I mean I saw on to Angelica’s walk

French photographer who sort of changed

my whole idea of photography and just

before that I really love Sur Aguas work

from India

the only photographer I looked up to

back then and I still do now and I

always thought that you know like how

are they doing it exactly so I went for

this workshop in Angkor called I go for

a festival and I did this workshop with

Antoine it was very intense and I

remember shooting like mad you know

whatever I had kept within me for so

long like this last two three years of

frustration this was the work which I

had done in Cambodia called comedian and

it was around four five days of shooting

but what came as a by-product of this

mad shooting was I could do what I was

looking forward to you know I remember

when Antoine was giving this feedback

sessions at the end of these workshops

he would he would speak to me after he

had spoken to everyone and on the last

day when he was talking to everyone else

I was just crying you know so

photography then I realized was just not

a career or a passion or a hobby it was

like life and death and only few

photographers can understand this it’s

very difficult

then this beautiful photographer who was

there I mean she helped me make a book

and I knew that I had to do something

with the work and so I tried and I made

a book with this just made 200 little

copies it had this huge poster inside it

folded there was this envelope with a

little bit of prints inside there was a

text sheet and I was very excited about

it I didn’t wait for a publisher to look

at this work or I was not waiting for

anyone else it felt like doing something

and I did it and back in those days it

was not as easy to do a self-published

book or either in terms of designing it

or in terms of taking it out to people

etcetera etcetera so those were exciting

times and I’m in mind my journey into

the world of photography as it started

it had a lot to do with the and that was

one point in time when I was completely

obsessed with the Japanese provoke

generation photographers like Dada Maria

marques Oh Kitajima there’s an army of

photographers and I kept on thinking

that you know like I want to make works

like this and after I finished this work

I got very bored again and this this is

what has happened to me all the time

that I do something with a lot of

obsession and then that obsession is

lifted and then I want to do something

else and but one thing you know which

happened in Angkor was it gives me some

sort of an idea of what kind of a

photographer I wanted to be you know

what kind of work I wanted to engage

with what kind of people I wanted to

work with and back then

which still holds in Calcutta you know

and the rest of the country is we don’t

have galleries we don’t have museums we

don’t have photo book publishers we

don’t have curators there is no there’s

no secondary market there’s nothing as

far as photography is concerned and I’ll

go back to the same thing that you have

to either be a photojournalist or a

commercial photographer or a fashion

photographer and things like that so it

was difficult for us but as I said that

more than a career more than anything

else my only reason to come to

photography was because I wanted to do

this and I wanted to spend my whole life

and photography is what I thought back

then I don’t know what I think maybe

after Angkor after meeting all these

great photographers I wanted to meet a

lot of these things change and I figured

that everybody is on the same journey

everybody has similar kind of problems

so this is this was the book came in

this little slip case sort of cover with

a tech sheet and other things so I know

it’s not a great book I know where this

book is wrong etc but this is very

special

maybe you know it will I will do

something with it after many years maybe

of 10 years or something but a lot of

mistakes and like photography like keep

like doing your own shows using public

space everything this book also taught

me how to make a book so our whole like

my entire generation like the generation

I belong to

all of us have learned through this

trial and ever because we never had

colleges we never had schools we never

had people to tell us that what is good

what is bad what you should do what you

searching for something all along and

that’s the reason that many of us all

our works are different and we still are

people who probably are not so obsessed

with the arrival which I keep on telling

people that photography in general is

for me is more about the journey when

someone is too obsessed with the arrival

then there’s nothing from the journey

that you can extract and whatever there

is is what you have

so after Angkor after commit then we

then I went to this black hole again of

not understanding anything and I was in

this weird spot all over again what

should I do now I had after that I had

people closest I remember and I was in

the hospital and somehow there was this

gallery delhi where i had an exhibition

and i had met this ambassador from

poland who was there she really liked

the kind of work I was doing so she told

me back then that you know are you

interested to go to Poland for this

little artist residency that they are

doing so I said yes but why bring up the

hospital and all that is that I was

lying in my bed and this woman had sent

me it’s very kind of her to send me this

music like DVDs of Thomas Danko and I

was listening to

and did something to it so I mean

inspired by philosophy and his seminal

work three colours trilogy and some

stories that I heard from people from my

generation my friends etc who grew up

listening to soviet-era short stories I

did this work in Poland in the winter of

2013 and can you just run the thing so

this is me making some sense of color

work for the first time and how I was as

I said both with black and white

photography and you know Poland for me

was about the Solidarity movement and

how the communist regime was thrown over

by a very legitimate People’s Movement

and this is something which was also

happening here just happened here like

the so called leftist forces in big ball

were thrown out after a long time

so it was easy for me to bridge this you

know this romantic idea of the winter in

Poland etc etc and we in Calcutta we

were a by-product of the generation

we’ll just seen on the ground Xingu

happening

the Japanese government the so-called

communist government you’re killing

people in on the ground and whatever

happened after that we always witness

that so my idea was to look at the color

red and how it changed you know from the

symbol of the Solidarity movement etc to

what it is now because capitalism has

taken over in

to start the other then I came back

again and I went to Korea in this coal

mines where I was fixing for these two

French filmmakers tf1 National Park and

draw the Braille you can keep it going

so Jana and Java making this film in

Korea on the fire there was an

underground fire which was burning took

a very very long time and I was just

shooting on my phone and slowly steadily

I realized that I might have something

and later like last year Getty and

Instagram have been very kind to offer

me a grant for this work and this is the

time when mobile phones and phone

cameras and phone images were getting

popular and people were using it like

never before

so things for getting more easy you know

the bridge that was there when I when I

had started photography that you have to

depend on a magazine or a printed

newspaper or a gallery etc these were

vanishing and we could do it with the

social media with Instagram this that

the other and there is another very

significant thing which I understood

from doing this work was the power of

the mobile phones what it would do if

you take into consideration the entire

history of photography the conceptual

photography or the post photography that

we talked about is completely dependent

on the idea that we are just making old

images and we can’t make new images but

the phone for the first time in this is

like 200 years can give you something

very radical so from me mobile phone

photography there is nothing for mobile

for photography anyways I mean if you

make images with a mobile maybe there is

a very slight chance that you can get

something which you do not know so and I

keep telling this that if you give a

phone to a Picasso with 16 17 year-old

boy or a girl you would know what a

mobile phone can do so all of us know

like about the world in Georgia there is

no much to talk about

I mean you know like two three minutes

is such a little time to talk about but

yeah it’s very surreal I mean there’s a

underground fire which has been burning

in Georgia for a very very long time and

nobody has been able to stop it and

nobody wants to stop it also because all

institutions agencies the government

everyone has failed you know from from

the maharaja who is controlling the fire

he failed and then the british raj they

feel when they took control then the

government of india failed then the

multinational companies are also going

to fail the labor the trade union

movements there it failed

the Mafia failed so this is a story of

failure of yours and yours so this has

been going on since centuries so what I

wanted to do is I wanted to make a sense

of this sort of post-apocalyptic kind of

world where I wanted to see how the

world looks like when you have extracted

everything from it you know so is what

it is and hopefully there will be a book

on the Jharia work very soon supposed to

happen end of next month etc might get a

little push so and now as I said that

you know I keep moving and you know I

get very bored doing the same thing over

and over again so yeah so I just want to

run you through some little work that I

had done which is like very close to me

it’s with no beginning and no end there

is a lot of pressure photographers too

there’s a lot of pressure for us to sort

of do work you know like to

what is the work I didn’t come to

photography to make a career in

photography so more than building up

bodies of work and creating I don’t know

what for me these images make lot of

sense to me because whatever I can’t say

loudly to people is something I’d rather

hide it in images you know these are

images these are like very precious

moments in my life and these are little

secrets

and I have always been more interested

in mystery than truth I have been more

interested in the journey more than the

destination of being more interested in

making relationships which are more sort

of honest and open rather than making

this is my only way out I mean there’s

no other way I can live it’s very

difficult to make sense of what I’m

saying and that’s the reason I have

chosen photography to do it so coming

back to Instagram again I mean you know

these little places give us this Avenue

to keep doing what you want and not

really care about the market or the

history of photography or how to make a

career out of so on and so forth this

travel will definitely go on but at the

same time most more than anything else

is very important to be happy it’s very

important to make sense of who you are

maybe Who I am and it’s thanks a lot

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