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What will it take to end child marriages | Agnes Babugura | TEDxLytteltonWomen


I’m here to talk to you about child

marriage it is a topic that is really

close to my heart I’m very passionate

about issues of women and children so

before I go into the talk I just want

you to do a short exercise for me I want

you to all close your eyes please all

close your eyes for me everybody I don’t

want to see any open eyes everybody

close your eyes and then I want you to

think or look back at your childhood

think about the time you were ten years

old to the up to when you in 15 your

childhood through the age of 15 to 18

and what you’re reflecting on that I

want you to think about or even reflect

on some of the things you enjoy doing

most in your childhood what were some of

the things you enjoy doing what were

some of your dreams and aspirations can

you think about that can you reflect and

remember what did you think you know as

children we like to dream and say oh

this is what I would do when I grow up

think about those things now I want you

to open your eyes I just one maybe one

or two people to tell me what were some

of the things you enjoy doing as a child

just one or two because there’s not much

time so i won’t go through everybody

just 1% of a years okay that’s being a

child and it dreams aspirations were

some of the things you dreamt about when

you’re a child all right okay so I want

to just ask a quick question as well in

your reflection how many of you actually

when you looked at back at your

childhood ever thought in your childhood

or desired to be in a marriage raising

children taking gone family

responsibilities did anybody think of

nobody as a child right

okay in your childhood Harmon of you can

tell me they didn’t have any dreams or

aspirations how many of you nobody right

we all have dreams and aspirations we

all want to be somebody in life we all

think of when I grow up this is what i’m

going to do and i’m sure most of you

came across that question as children

when they say why do you want to be when

you grow up oh I want to be a doctor I

want to be an engineer I want to be a

nurse I want to be a pilot I want to be

a teacher you know all these things that

come up when you ask children what they

want to be when they grow up so I

believe every child has some kind of

dream every child loves to be to go out

and play and hang out with friends and

just be a child be silly and as I child

myself I enjoy doing those things I

enjoyed playing hang out with my friends

you know just being a child and being

silly you know those are the things i

thought about because I’m a child I

should be allowed to be a child and do

those kind of things but unfortunately

so many millions of children around the

world don’t have the privilege of being

a child it’s very very sad out there and

the saddest thing I find is that the

same people are the very people that are

supposed to be protecting them that are

supposed to be looking after them are

the very ones that actually sentenced

them to lives of suffering I found that

to be very sad now some of you may ask

yourself an academic what is she doing

with issues of children yes I’m an

environmentalist but because I work a

lot in development I work a lot on

development issues this is how i came to

discover some of these issues i wasn’t

always aware of issues of child marriage

so the question I ask myself all the

time is what will it take to end child

marriage I ask myself this question all

the time so I want to just take you

before we even get into the issue of

child marriage I just want to ensure

that we are all on the same page when we

are talking about children what we mean

okay and if you look at that definition

basically a child is every human being

below the age of 18 and that is

according to the United Nations

rates of children and then I put in this

quotation I really loved it by Nelson

Mandela because when I’m talking about

these issues I like to also relate them

to to issues of human rights as well

because we all have certain rights and

when we are treated in a certain manner

some of our rights are violated so I

love this definition and or disco tation

and I just want I put it there so that

you can have it at the back of your mind

as I talk through this whole process so

that you can understand and you’ll see

how it then starts to fit in but as you

are aware we all have our rights

children are also human beings who have

rights I know there’s attendance to say

no they are just children they can do

whatever but they also have rights and

they are if you go to the to the

document of children’s right you’ll find

a lot of them day but what I want to

really bring out through this talk is to

highlight what it means for the

children’s right when we impose marriage

on them and this basically for children

when imposing marriage on children it is

really a grave violation of their human

rights it is to challenge their humanity

it is to deny them their right of to

dignity education health and life free

of abuse and cohesion freedom of thought

a right to be self-guided against

negligee neglect and exploitation and a

right to choose as an adult weather and

whom to marry it is also to deny to deny

these rights is really to dehumanize

them so I want you to keep this at the

back of your mind as I go through his

this talk and now I just want to share

with you and take you through how I came

to develop an interest in child marriage

because I’m sure some of you will be

wondering is he a child bride herself

how come she’s so passionate about this

ID she is talking about this no I’m not

a child bride actually I had a privilege

of enjoying my childhood because I found

good I had parents who allowed me to be

a child and allowed me to dream and

allowed

to aspire to be Who I am today allowed

me to go to school and because my

parents were educators they’re really

instilled in us the importance of

education and for them education was no

option we had to go through school and

really get the best education that we

could so my interest in child marriage

came seven years ago when I was on a

mission in South Sudan I had gone there

to do some project evaluations of the

you know there is a lot of international

agencies there condom having development

programs so i was there to evaluate some

of those projects and you can see me i

had to you can see me right there right

there right there and you can see i had

to dress like them so that i could just

fit in and be able to interact with them

but on this visit i met a young girl was

on on one on the team of field workers

that we’re going to work with me and

this young girl should so much interest

on how i became to be around and how

come i could come in and do all this

work because they are not used to girls

or women coming in to do this kind of

work that used to men doing the work so

she was really curious and i started

expressing myself and telling them she

wanted to know what my childhood was

like as well so i began to also engage

with her and you know she became she

became very close to me in the process

and we started to talk a lot and she

started to tell me about her story as a

child and what she had gone through and

it is then that I came to learn that she

had met she had been married off when

she was 12 and she started explaining to

me the processes that she went through

before she even got married and she told

me the challenges that she had

experienced during that process and then

she went on to narrate how she had been

circumcised and then because through

circumcision is when they become women

and ready for marriage so she told me

that process of circumcision she told me

how that she had been stitched up and

and I just left a small hole enough for

her to be able to urinate and have her

menses so for me

that was a shock and I just could not

understand how it is possible in this

day and age to do such things I had

never heard of such things so you can

imagine the shock I had and for a minute

there I thought maybe I’m dreaming and

somebody’s telling me all these stories

and because I could not believe it it

was just unbelievable for me and as she

went on at some point actually my mind

went so far that I couldn’t understand

what it is that she was trying to tell

me so I kept asking all these questions

and I said are you real are you telling

me the truth and she says this is the

honest truth and my story is not the

only one cause all the girls that you

see around here have gone through the

same thing and from that day forward I

just say to myself you know I need to go

and educate myself more on child

marriages understand what is about see

are there any more stories out there

like this because our stealing in total

shock trying to understand what how this

could be allowed to happen so that is

how I got involved in really looking

into issues of child marriage and the

impacts so on my quest to understand the

practice and the magnitude of child

marriage i came across so many stories

out i was doing these searches and i

came across a number of images i listen

to a lot of stories I read a lot of

stories and I realized this is really

really sad so I would just quickly run

through the images I’m not sure if maybe

later on this can be allowed for people

to view some of the stories just to see

what it looks like but these are just

some of the stories i came across and

this is a tanzanian child brides so I

all these images i’m showing you have

read the girls stories and I’ve seen

what they have gone through and the

challenges that they have gone through

and what I found most sad i’m sure most

of you have maybe seen some of these

images before but this young girl how

story really made me sad because when it

broke when the news broke about this

eight-year-old who had been married to

twin somebody to

Diaz hasti Nia and how she told her

story of how she has struggled had

struggled through the marriage and how

she eventually got the court to allow

her to divorce this man it is an amazing

story if you can look it up you will

really cringe and see what it kind of

impact it has and then some of the other

stories I came across with such as those

you can see this is a 16 year old

screaming and really not wanting to go

to this home because they I think they

understand what kind of pain so imagine

having to go to a home of a stranger as

a child you know you’ve been in this

home you’ve been protected you are with

your family and now you are being sent

off to a stranger and you are going to

take on all these responsibilities that

are really not meant for children so

it’s a very painful experience and what

disturb be most is that most of these

girls are not allowed to continue school

that is the saddest part so they are

taken out of school and that has an

impact on their education and then what

things it impacts on their health

because most of them fall pregnant once

they are into this they get into these

marriages and you can imagine a young

girl having to carry the pregnancy

through to nine months and then having

to deliver and I also discovered that

most of them suffer from a medical

condition called fistula I’m not sure

how many of you are familiar with that

web is basically through this process

because the child’s body hasn’t

developed well enough they cannot give

birth and in most cases they rupture and

in some cases they have the fiscal eyes

when they have that hole between the

vagina and the anise and what happens

the whole system is messed up so you

have the urine and feces coming all and

it’s once they go through that process

what usually happens their husbands

divorced them they are isolated and in

most cases these children are locked

away because this comes with stigma and

shame so and because you are always

smelling and your data so they lock you

away so you suffer with loneliness and

this is a child these are children that

we’re supposed to protect and love you

know but they are going through this

process at this arm through all these

difficulties and challenges at this time

and then this also made me ask a

question you know in my in my work of

gender &

and women’s empowerment you know we come

across where I mean we come across so

many statistics about women being poor

women having the face of poverty and

then you know you look back at some of

these things that happen and you ask

yourself if there are millions of

children being forced into marriage and

not allowed to continue their education

where there are dreams are shattered and

you tell me how will then they how will

they then are in their adulthood be able

to perform and contribute to the

development of their nations their

communities their households what

happens so it becomes a cycle they enter

the cycle of poverty and every year we

have at least 15 million child children

being married off before the age of 18

and as you can see from those statistics

we have 1.2 billion that actually that

are actually gone through this process

and you find that one in three girls in

the developing world has said to be

married before the age of 18 so I looked

at those statistics and I found them

quite shocking and then I also went

ahead to also look at some more on what

was going on in various countries and if

you look at those statistics you will

notice that out of those 20 top

countries with the highest rates of

child marriages 18 of them are African

countries and then we are talking about

why we are behind in development so you

ask yourself if we are actually cutting

off most of this children that have

really high potential to contribute to

the development of their nations and the

development of their communities and

households how do we expect to ever move

forward in terms of human development

because we are blocking them we are

cutting off their dreams they don’t get

to realize their potentials they don’t

get to contribute so it’s a very very

sad situation and I’m hoping that from

here some of you will go back and

educate yourself about some of these

issues and advocate and put your voices

out there because for me when I

discovered these things one of the

things i told myself is that for every

single platform i get wherever it is our

continue to talk about these stories

until every single child is free make

yourself aware of what is happening and

find a way that you can contribute find

a way that you can engage there are so

many programs going on around there are

so many activities happening to try and

prevent child marriages but

unfortunately a lot of poor don’t know

about it and so they don’t engage so

much when I see protests happening I

always wish that we could have some

national protests with a hashtag and

child marriage you know in our countries

whether you have a high rate in your

country or not in your community or not

but in solidarity of those who are

actually having this high res and the

girls who are suffering just to free

them so that one day every single child

girl child especially will be able to

enjoy the freedom of being a child the

freedom of going to school the freedom

of realizing their dream the freedom of

realizing their potential and being able

to choose who they can marry in

adulthood and not have to go through

those processes a lot of them get beaten

and then I ask myself why would a man

want to marry a child and then take this

child into his home and abuse the child

beat them up what joy do they get from

that it is one question I’ve always

wanted ask men who are actually engaged

in these practices what do you gain from

a child bride we’ve had in Sierra Leone

they allowed to marry of nine-year-olds

in most countries most African countries

their culture allows them to mark to

marry children before the girl child

before she reaches puberty or before she

reaches her menses because it’s the sign

of blessings that comes upon the family

when the gold goes when she’s pure some

of them believe it is to protect her

because they believe once they reach

puberty they are likely to run around

and lose their virginity early and

therefore they are trying to protect

them and if you see the horror stories

that come from these children when they

tell their stories it is terrible and I

think we all need to unite together and

fight some of these traditions some of

which they claim because of poverty

which families decides I cannot afford

to feed all my children and she looks at

the girl child and says well this one we

can marry

because she brings in come to us there

are families that believe that so some

believe that girls are commodities so

there are a lot of traditions that don’t

value the girl child because they see

them as people who are useless so I just

wanted to highlight that we need to

start engaging in these discussions and

it’s about time we say when is enough

enough when do we say enough of abusing

our girl children and I wanted to leave

you with this image here because this is

a female chief in Malawi who has now

said enough is enough and she has

actually managed to allow more than 850

child marriages in Malawi in the county

that she’s working in and she has also

managed to work with a lot of chiefs and

made them sign contracts because in

Malawi they have now passed a law that

the age on which a girl can marry is now

18 but they are trying to raise it to 21

because they feel 18 is still young but

you know even with the loss that we have

today there’s so many loopholes because

in most laws that it allows that even

though they prohibit the marriage of a

child they say that if parents consent

then it can be allowed so that is a

problem so when I looked at all the

initiatives that are happening to end

child marriage personally I felt the

most effective one would be to actually

directly target the men who are marrying

these children and also the parents so

when I looked at all the initiatives

that are going on I thought like what is

being done is actually not enough we

need to target them Benoit marrying the

children and the parents who are

actually giving away their children to

be married educate them let them

understand the value of a girl child

understand the girl needs to be given

that opportunity so for me that has been

very important and then I’ll leave you

without quotation to educate girls is to

reduce poverty it is very important thank you very much

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