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Tres preguntas y respuestas sobre la renta de garantía de ingresos | Lucía Gorjón | TEDxUDeusto


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thank you very much everyone for coming
I looked like a gorjon and I’m a researcher
economic surely many of you
do not be totally clear to what we
we dedicate economic researchers
I’m going to try to get you home
understanding a little bit better
profession
I specifically evaluate public policies
and what does it consist of?
Well, I’m looking at a policy
economic and social impact has had the
desired if it has had an impact
unwanted or unexpected if it serves to
that we wanted to see how it can be improved
etcetera and specifically I have finished my
doctorate half a year ago and a large part of
My thesis focuses on evaluating income
of revenue guarantee the rg in the country
Basque and of that goes this presentation os
I’m going to tell you a little about the results
main ones you have found
As you all know we are coming out of
a gigantic crisis the one known as
great recession and the crisis has left
many people in a situation of poverty and
social exclusion that is precisely why
speaks so much lately of systems
of minimum income as a possible
solution the heretic is precisely a
minimum income system
before telling you what impact they have
I’m going to tell you what the fence is and
it is a money that is given to households
that meet some requirements the first
requirement and more important is that
have income or have little income
another second requirement is that you
families these people
actively seek a job they have
than to be going to the services of
employment to receive training have to
accept suitable job offers etc
so you know a little bit about what we are
speaking let’s give some figures the
first is that 6% of individuals
who live in the Basque country receive it
one in four unemployed is the perceiver
of this minimum income and how much it costs
costs slightly less than 5% of the cost
public
who wants to get the minimum income that
pretends the heretic and when the first
objective and very clear is that it intends
decrease poverty and which is the last
objective to which we aspire with the heretic to
that people do not need it to be
can stop collecting this rent for
have found a job for having
I left a job and because the people
have your own income and do not
need this type of aid what
danger there is good what the economists
we call poverty trap an example
a person a home of an individual
charges approximately 600 euros per month
It is difficult to find a job there
A lot of unemployment seeks not found but good
he has 600 euros probably
end up accommodating because month to month good
he already has his six hundred euros
this person falls into the trap of
poverty
I personally and surely almost all
those who are here we would not like
be in that situation and precisely
this is what you have to prevent the
people who receive this type of income
fall into the trap of poverty
as I have told you what I am going to tell you
here is the result of a
scientific research in concrete
part of my doctoral thesis
the first question I want to answer
is really the heretic and fulfills his
goal of reducing poverty if you
We are giving money to people we
poor really we are not reducing the
poverty we are wasting resources
public, let’s see if this happens before
to move on to answer the question
I will say that there is no single
objective universal definition of poverty
There are several ways to define even
to measure it
we academics like to use some
standard definition the extreme line
poverty is calculated from the following
way if we put if we order the
population of the Basque country ‘of the most
poor to the richest we leave for the
medium and we see what the individual charges
the middle 40 percent of what
charges the individual from the middle is going to be the
line of extreme poverty all the people
that charges less than that individual is
extremely poor according to what
we academics understand by extreme
poverty however the Basque government
has another definition of poverty divided
to Basque country households’ in types and
to each type you assign an amount that
is going to be the definition of poverty that
uses the Basque government and the answer
Yes, the heretic does help reduce
substantially poverty for
different definitions of poverty by
example as we say the
academics extreme poverty if not
there would be heretic we would find an 8
extremely percent of poor people
poor in the Basque country ‘
however thanks to the heretic
we found 5 percent of people
poor according to the definition of
legislation of the heretic and there would be a 7
percent of poor people if not
there was the heretic and thanks to the heretic
this amount is reduced to 3 per
hundred of the individuals because there is
poor people if there is a heretic good
these people are people who do not meet any
of the requirements as for example
take a minimum time enumerated etc
because there is a difference between that 5 and
that 3% according to how we define poverty
that 2% difference is people
mainly in large families
because because when the choice is assigned
the same amount is given to households
for all households of three or more
People do not care that there are three there
four there are five therefore the
amount that reaches each individual
it is less
Another way to define poverty is to
poverty gap is to say how much you
is left to society to eradicate
poverty
well then I advance you that for both
indicators of poverty the Basque society
is much closer to eradicating the
poverty thanks to the rc and another last
result is that although it does not eradicate
poverty poor people are much less
poor the intensity of poverty that
there is a lot in the Basque country thanks to the
rci
second question that sure you have
raised once demotivate the
minimum income to work the people that
receive these helps stop searching
work is accommodated in unemployment we go
to try to answer it first before
to give an answer I will tell you how
are the unemployed who receive this income
they define the characteristics
first is that it is people with some levels
very low educational levels, 60% do not have the
that’s the second characteristic that
define is that they have durations of
very long unemployment
more than half have more than two years
unemployed and I already anticipate that these are
the two variables that most harm
When I find a job, I’m going to
give another data too much data
the people of every 100 unemployed in the country
Basque this month who do not receive heretic and 9
they find employment next month of
every 100 unemployed in the Basque country that
receive heretic and find employment
next month
3 is a striking difference but the
question is what is this
difference then that’s what we’re good at
economists we have our
economics laboratories the optimum for
see the impact of the heretic or of a
income would be to clone the people that the
receives the people the clone does not give the
rent and we see you find before
I work the original with your heretic or the
clone without heretic and obviously not
we can do this then what we do
good we see the heretical collective and that
It has very specific characteristics
as I told you and what we do is
look inside people who do not get
the heretic and a collective the most similar
possible in order to be able to compare
two collective of equals
characteristics you remember that I have
said that 3 of every 100 unemployed with
heretic and find in a job you know
how many of that group very similar but
that does not receive the heresy found in a
employment three out of 100 that is to say is not
the heretic and the one that delays the departure to
a job are the characteristics of the
perceivers what makes them have
exit rates as low employment
any other group with the same
characteristics that the heretic receives us
and has the same rates check out a
job
the last question you remember that I have
said at the beginning that people who
receives the heretic and has an obligation to
go to unemployment to receive their services
do training courses be looking for
actively a job
Well, we’ll have to know if it works
of something really this these services
of you are helping the collective
heretic to find a job
well here I would like to give a put a
little of emphasis on a subject only the 40
percent of the heretic perceivers
they receive services even though we have said
which is obligatory if it is a stopped that
can take four years in unemployment
with these unemployment rates the crisis the
well-known also do not find work what
more normal is for that person to throw the
towel precisely for this kind of
people for the long-term unemployed
is where it is most important that
employment services are on top of
intervene and help them to avoid
this kind of situations
saying this I will go on to answer the
question that I have told you
similar to what we do before
using a very similar methodology
we have a heretic collective that
receives unemployment services and other
heretic collective that does not receive
services we do the same as before
we look inside those who do not receive
the most similar services possible
to those who do and who we find
and that we find that when we compare
two similar collectives that receive
lanbide services have much more
probability of finding a job is
say if it is very useful it is important that
the recipients of the heretic and go to
I stop to perform to use those
follow-up guidance services
and in particular we find that the
formation to the perceivers of the heretic
double the probability of finding
a job and up to here my presentation
I hope you liked it and I hope that
you go understanding a little more to what
We are dedicated researchers
cheap thank you very much
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