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The Refugee Process | Wilmot Collins | TEDxHelena


the refugee process first let’s look at

it who is a refugee a refugee is someone

who flees his or her country because of

persecution because of violence and

because of war the United States of

America has the strongest vetting

process in the world I will give you an

insight of that process the process I

went through when an individual flees

his country he goes he or she goes to a

nother country that country is

considered the secondary country when

they get into the secondary country they

will have to register with the United

Nations High Commission for Refugees

UNHCR when they register with the UN the

UN will have to obtain all the

identifying biometrics the UN will get

the bio-data that UN will interview them

and of all the refugees that will go

through that process

less than 1% will come to the United

States lucky me

and only the strongest applicants will

move forward to the various agencies of

the United States government those

agencies are the National

Counterterrorism Center that’s the first

agency the refugee will go and get

interview by the officials of that

Center they are specific to the area all

the enquiries all the interviews will be

specific to that area should their booth

should they pass the screening they will

move to the FBI the FBI will also be

very specific and they’re lucky and go

beyond that they go over to the

Department of Homeland Security they

will also do their screenings their

interviews their biometrics their data

after Homeland Security they will go to

the State Department the State

Department will conduct their interviews

and their security checks after the

State Department you go back to the

Homeland Security but this time you’ll

be interviewing with USCIS United States

Immigration Services and they will

interview you and go through their

security checks and if you’re lucky then

after medical you go through what we

call the cultural orientation that is

you’re almost there you almost able to

come to the United States this process

can take anywhere from eighteen months

to two decades after you go through the

culture orientation you have a final

screening to go through and prior to

coming to the u.s. that final screening

will go will be done will be conducted

by the US Customs and Border Protection

national targeting center what is that

have you all heard about it yeah

refugees will have to go through that

after all of that I’ll be honest with

you with all the culture orientation and

all it never prepared me for coming to

Montana never did

cuz I came here in February February 17

will make me 23 years here all of those

the screening processes I just mentioned

happen outside of the US in that

secondary country that you fled to so

none of it happens within here so it

took me two years and seven months to go

through my process and I thought that

was terrible that was wrong they kept me

away from my family’s for two years and

seven months but guess what

that was nothing

I just learned if another guy who

started the process at age 17 he finally

came to the US last year at age 34 do

you want to talk about extreme vetting

17 years of vetting which one of you are

ready to go through that process there

are other programs the u.s. that that we

should be focusing on instead we don’t

we focus only on and it’s been I don’t

know why it’s been this way but there

isn’t any evidence of refugees

committing terrorism not one not in the

US whenever you hear people talk about

terrorism and refugee to always give you

an example of where Europe the u.s. is

not Europe the US has her own screening

process vetting process that she puts

there are several myths that we go

through you know I hear all the time one

of them is refugees don’t pay taxes are

you telling me I lived in Montana for 23

years and didn’t pay taxes there pay

taxes refugees take jobs from US workers

is that real did I take anybody’s job

since I’ve been in this country for 23

that means that there are lots of jobs

refugees receives special money from the

US government to purchase homes and cars

and all where is mine I’ve been waiting

for mine for 23 years when I fled but we

fled Liberia into Montana

two weeks later I started my first job

with Intermountain Children’s Home I

didn’t even have time to get my feet wet

I was up and moving and my situation

it’s not unique

another one that the refugees come to

the US for economic reasons No what did

I say about the definition of a refugee

the first thing on their mind is safety

they are flee for safety not to get rich

when I fled Liberia 1994 when I entered

this country and arrived at JFK Airport

I had 25 cents in my pocket it wasn’t

enough

for a phone call I couldn’t even call my

wife to tell her hey I’m in America so

no if we were here for economic reasons

I’m supposed to be rich right now

because I’ve been here 23 years what am

refugees do not contribute or

participate in the communities where am

i today is this not part of my community

Grand Street

it’s TEDx not part of my community am I

not participating we do all of those

things and of course refugees present

health risk after going through the

health screening you don’t want to know

what we go through every part of you is

screen look I’m from a country Liberia

like there’s a small West African

country it was established by slaves

that were free from this country and

sent back to Africa when the slaves got

there to form the government they took

with them what they have learned here

and they were so honored by going back

to Africa they decided to honor one

person they honor your fifth our fifth

president who was he

Monroe didn’t name that capital city

after Monroe because he was instrumental

in sending the slaves back to Africa we

have places in Liberia I’m from Maryland

in Liberia I went to school in Virginia

we have Louisiana Georgia Mississippi

those were places the slaves lived and

when they went back didn’t name places

like that but I’m sure what some of you

have heard of Charles teal and Samuel do

we when we fled like deer were fled

because of one of Africa’s most brutal

civil war when I finally have my wife

and I finally fled the country

I was 90 pounds she was 87 we were dying

we’re looking to seek economic wealth we

were thinking about terrorism all we

were thinking about survival the second

air country we went to was Ghana who got

into Ghana my wife said hey I got family

in Montana I said where is that she said

oh it’s in America I know America know

Montana in America she so yes I do and

she called her my wife was an exchange

student and she went to hell in a high

and she lived with her family and she

called the family out and told them we

fled the country and we were in Ghana

and we were seeking help of course they

were excited we would get you all over

here soon don’t worry it was easy for my

wife because all they did was they went

to Karen Carroll College awarded her a

scholarship to do nursing so boom she

came to Montana not me

I had to go through that process and

that process was grueling

in fact when I got to the fifth step I

called my wife and said I’m done these

people will never let me get in don’t

worry about it let’s forget it I’ll stay

here you stay there it’s over and she

said she’d give me after I told her such

a speech I mean after I made such a

speech and told I’m done this she gave

me one line they know what they’re doing

become they know what to do and I’m like

what that process took two years and

seven months when I was finally cleared

after I went through the border custom

targeting center I called them up and

said I’m coming

tell me about Montana and my wife’s oh

it’s nice you’ll love it it’s pretty

warm too

in February so what’s the temperature

she’s always 29 degrees I said but water

freezes at 32 so how can it be 29 and

she said but yeah that’s I said no you

don’t understand it

let me talk to someone who understands

the temperature and she calls her host

mom and she comes home hi how are you

you’ll soon be here yes I said what’s

the temperature she said what’s 29 it’s

very warm today I said what is it when

it’s cold she sold 30 below I said the

little what she said below zero now

imagine I’m coming from a country the

average temperature is 80 degrees and

they’re telling me it’s warm at 29

it gives cold at 30 below and I went

through that Cultural Center and it

never told me about that so the crazy

thing I had a sister here and I called

her and told her I’m coming to America

she said okay I’ll meet you at JFK

whatever I bring you wear it all you’re

going to Montana you wear it okay she

brought two sets of long johns a

turtleneck went to jacket everything

what she didn’t tell me I had to go

through the airports I had to be on the

plane and everything that night I put on

two sets so I mean I’m morning put on

two sets of Long John put on my

turtleneck put on the vest and then I

got on the plane and I’m the only one

sweating I am the only one sweating and

the guy next to me it’s looking at me

like what the heck is going on so of

Koff ii and he turned how many laters

are you wearing you don’t want to know

man and then I when we were landing

descending into Helena the pilot said is

sunny and warm at 32 degrees I’m like

these guys are crazily in this place

what piqued my interest most was the

fact when I got down

I actually saw people in shorts at 32

ladies and gentlemen the process we have

in place works the process we have in

place is extreme it took me 2 years or 7

months it took the other guy 17 years

and there isn’t any evidence of

terrorism from refugees you make your

own conclusions thanks for having

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