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my husband John and I are philanthropist

that word means different things to

different people to us it means

aggressive investments in a number of

issue areas from evidence-based policy

criminal justice education healthcare

pension reform public accountability and

many more I get asked a lot of questions

about our work why did you choose the

shoe areas that you did and how do you

choose new ones I always feel that when

responding to that question people are

expecting me to tell a story about some

transformative event that happened in my

life for John’s life that led us to

embark on this path maybe they want to

hear that we invest in health care

because we’ve had family members who

unfortunately have had cancer maybe they

want to hear story about my life growing

up in Puerto Rico and how that fueled my

interest in and passion for fighting

social justice issues and addressing

poverty it said we’ve come to expect

that every talk will start with a story

like that something intensely moving and

personal anything that starts with when

I was a kid but I’m not going to tell a

story like that although I could I think

personal stories are so important they

are what fuels our passion for many of

us they’re the reason why we do the work

we do but I believe that they’re

precisely the wrong place to look for

insight in fact I believe that we as

policymakers government officials

philanthropist even as individuals spend

entirely too much time on anecdote and

not enough time when evidence I’m here

today to argue that we need to change

that that we’re routinely making all

kinds of decisions based on incomplete

inconsistent flawed or even non-existent

data based on anecdote that this is

harming all of us in ways that we’re not

appreciating and that we can and should

do better now I’ve just made a bunch of

provocative statements so let me get to

work at convincing it I’ll start with

one example from the Ted global stage in

2012 the second most viewed TED talk

of all time Amy Cuddy psychologist

Harvard Business School professor famous

in large part for her TED talk for her

work on power posing so she basically

argues that standing in a power post

position like Wonder Woman like this or

like this you know whatever it makes you

feel super powerful changes the hormone

levels in your body and might even be

conducive to greater success it’s

amazing right I mean that’s so cool I

should just stand like this the entire

time the Ted community eighths is up

over 38 million views over the last four

and a half years the talk is been

subtitled into 48 languages and Counting

here’s how the Ted website today

describes professor Cuddy’s work it says

that professor Cuddy’s work reveals the

benefit of power posing and it makes a

reference to this hormone level issue

that I just talked about national news

outlets gushed about the work and many

of us rushed to buy her best-selling

book now I need to be a downer but I

think for LG powerful thing doesn’t work

at least not as advertised look at the

myriad studies that have been conducted

on power posing ever since professor

Cuddy released their findings they point

the glaring errors in her methodology

they questioned the entire theory of

power posing some researchers tried to

reproduce her work and couldn’t others

tried to reproduce her work and got

exactly the opposite result that power

posing reduces feelings of power and it

gets worse even professor Cuddy’s

co-author who herself as a prominent

academic has completely disavow the

study and she did so in no uncertain

terms here’s where she said I do not

believe the powerful effects are real

and she goes farther than that she

confesses to glaring errors in the way

that they conducted their study tiny

sample sizes fluency data selectively

reported findings even professor Cuddy

herself who continues to stand by the

power post Theory now has sort of

amended her story and now she says that

she’s agnostic about power poses effects

on hormone levels

Gnostic that was the whole reason she

went on the Ted stage into this and did

this and made us all do this and feel

powerful you might think this is a trite

example and it’s by no means meant to be

a personal attack who cares if I stand

in front of you like this if that makes

me feel good or not and what does it

have to do with solving the country’s

problems and the world’s problems which

is why we’re all here well a lot because

this example is endemic or something

that we see throughout academic research

and throughout research in general

virtually everywhere you look you’ll

find researchers many of them prominent

and most of them well-intentioned

actively misleading us into believing

that bad research is proven fact we’ve

seen this time and again in our work and

when John and I started the foundation

we set out to solve the country’s

problems by attacking root causes so we

were pretty new at this so we figured

that the best place to start was to try

to get our head around what we did and

didn’t know as a community collectively

as a country what do we know about what

doesn’t doesn’t work after all

philanthropist has been trying to save

the country and make the country better

for many many years and have spent

billions of dollars doing it governments

state governments local governments have

spent exponentially more on health care

programs social programs anti-poverty

programs job training you name it so we

assumed that there had to be a massive

body of evidence that could help guide

our investment decisions what we found

was really alarming we saw bad research

everywhere it didn’t matter where we

looked for example we turned to

nutrition as potentially an avenue to

address our health epidemics we wanted

to get smart about what factors and

foods might be conducive to chronic

diseases obesity heart disease diabetes

and we found some very good research but

we also found an abundance of studies

like these chocolate makes you skinny Oh

beer helps you work out in case you

didn’t know cause knee prevents

Alzheimer’s super catchy

loses a researcher notices the people

under study who are eating chocolate are

also skinny and summarily comes to the

conclusion or at least tells us that

they’re skinny because eat chocolate

same thing with a Alzheimer study shoddy

research bad methodologies small sample

sizes correlations powdered as

causations selectively reported findings

just like the Amy Cuddy study my way

there’s a lot of these one might say a

lot of alternative facts in 2012 a group

of researchers randomly chose 50

ingredients from a cookbook normal stuff

like milk eggs and they took a look at

the body of research relating to these

ingredients to see what they could learn

about whether these ingredients did or

did not cause cancer seems like a

worthwhile exercise here’s what they

found for every ingredient that you see

listed in the slide lying Tomatoes milk

eggs corn coffee butter there was at

least one research study that argued

that the ingredient causes cancer and at

least one research study that argued

that the ingredient prevented cancer

what are we supposed to do with this

information we turn to health care same

thing we saw that the authors of the

vast majority of clinical trials

reported and top medical journals

silently changed the outcomes that they

were reporting so they said they were

going to study one thing but they

reported on another now why would they

do that now that I don’t claim to be an

expert scientific research is enormously

complicated certainly clinical

researchers as well but one theory might

be that the original studies didn’t pan

out the way they wanted so they cherry

picked positive findings from those same

studies on secondary outcomes and

reported on those instead so they could

get published now you don’t have to have

a PhD to start wondering whether maybe

there could be something fishy going on

here and these shenanigans happen

everywhere take a recent project that we

did a reproducibility project so we

asked researchers to reproduce one

hundred psychology experiments that had

been published in top psychology

journals in 2008 so go do them again if

you do them again will you find the same

result that’s what we wanted to know you

know often they could find the same

results one third to one half of the

time now I’m not claiming that

scientists and researchers are actively

and intentionally committing fraud I’m

saying there’s something broken in our

system where scientists are feeling the

need to report only positive findings at

the expense of the whole story how would

they do that well both ways so let’s say

that a researcher wants to prove that

there’s a relationship between eating

blue M&Ms and prostate cancer because

that would be newsworthy so he designs

the conducts an experiment but he

doesn’t find a relationship okay so he

does it again the same experiment does

it again no relationship

he doesn’t 17 more times in our

relationship but on the 20th time he

does find a relationship boom he can

publish blue M&Ms cause prostate cancer

new study shows he doesn’t tell us about

the 19 other times that he conducted

that same study and failed he just tells

us about the one time that he succeeded

that’s called the Fowler effect the

researcher could also tweak the

statistical analysis until he gets the

results that he wants that’s healthy

hacking or he could report is to a very

narrowly defined group when in fact the

original research study was meant to

address a much much larger group why

does it happen well there could be lots

of reasons but I would argue that a

reason is it the incentive system in

science and in research is broken in an

ideal world scientists and researchers

will be motivated by one thing the

pursuit of truth but in the real world

scientists and researchers are equally

motivated by the desire to publish

because that’s the vehicle for achieving

tenure that’s the vehicle for getting

funding and for achieving notoriety

scientific journals are clamoring for

articles that report flashy results so

that those articles can get cited they

would have a term for this is called the

impact factor then of course there’s the

media and we as consumers we all want to

hear those flashy results as a

researchers deliver even if it’s at the

expense of full transparency and rigor

and while the worse off for it our

foundation we try to break this cycle

and reform the system by funding

organizations that are promoting

transparency in good practices and

collaboration and data sharing the

Center for open science the Center for

evidence-based medicine at Oxford the

metric Center at Stanford health news

organizations that are holding the

media’s feet to the fire as to what they

report on research studies and they’re

all doing terrific work but we need to

do so much more we didn’t become

philanthropists to hang out with

academics and role in the hallowed halls

of universities we became

philanthropists to change the world but

how can we even think about what to

change if we don’t know what works and

how are we supposed to know what works

if we can’t trust research so this is

our problem

this is our issue this goes to the core

of who we are and what we do we can’t

function if we don’t have a healthy

research ecosystem this problem of bad

research and bad science isn’t limited

track edenia this is just as bad in

public policy and remember the Scared

Straight program you know at-risk youth

would go to maximum-security prisons or

meet prisoners and the prisoners would

yell at them and tell them about their

bad choices and how they have to live

their life on the straight and narrow we

spent millions of dollars on these

programs and they made intuitive sense

except that they didn’t work research

showed that these programs actually

increase the likelihood that these kids

would commit criminal acts we should

have known this much earlier we would

have saved millions of dollars and more

importantly maybe we would have saved

some of these

kids three federal departments the

Department of Labor HHS and the

Department of Education have funded

randomized control trials on social

programs that have either been

administered by the government or by the

private sector

now randomized control trials are the

gold standard in research here’s what

they found

70% of the employment and job training

programs that the Department of Labor

looked at had weak or no positive

effects of the 28 teen pregnancy

prevention programs that HHS looked at

only three were worthwhile and eighty to

90 percent of the education programs

that the Department of Education looked

at had weak or no positive effects

relative to what squares were doing

already so we know so little about what

works in education and in job training

and in policy in general even when we

think we do take the federal

government’s what works Clearinghouse

which was established as a resource for

practitioners to determine what works in

education it purports to rely on

rigorous research let’s look at this

research there is a study that had only

a few dozen participants there’s another

study that was conducted over the course

of around 12 weeks then there’s a bunch

of positive labels on secondary outcomes

that ultimately don’t matter

for example the website labels is

positive a reading preparation program

because research showed that after going

through the program kids were able to

recognize letters of the alphabet well

you might say that’s a stepping stone to

reading so that sounds pretty reasonable

to me and it does except that the

website doesn’t tell us that those same

researchers studied that same program

and found that the program had no

effects on kids ultimate ability to read

well isn’t that what we care about so

we’re spending millions and millions of

dollars on programs that at worst don’t

work and at best we don’t know well we

don’t have sufficient data or we don’t

have reliable data so this needs to

change we need to stop as a

philanthropic community as a

policymaking community we need to stop

funding these programs and relying on

this ecosystem that isn’t giving us the

results that we need

and I’ve got some ideas on how to do

that how to reform the system first more

randomized control trials those of us

who work with governments for

governments collaborate with governments

need to demand more randomized control

trials so that we can get evidence and

understand what doesn’t doesn’t work

second we all need to follow the

evidence this is on all of us

governments and philanthropist need to

stop funding what doesn’t work and start

funding what does work we need to hold

our own selves accountable for these

results and for this problem this isn’t

something that was imposed upon us –

something that we’ve created and that’s

on us to fix and third we need better

data we can’t do research if we don’t

have healthy data systems that are

speaking to each other that are

harmonized that researchers can access

to give us the answers that we need now

here – there are excellent organizations

both within and outside the government

that are working on these issues within

the government the Commission on

evidence-based policymaking the Social

and Behavioral Sciences team are

conducting randomized control trials

pushing an evidence-based policymaking

agenda within government and they’re

doing terrific work in collaboration

with stayed in local governments in the

nonprofit sector the rhode island policy

innovation labs j-pal results for

America are all contributing to

reforming this ecosystem by either

conducting randomized control trials or

working at promoting evidence and thanks

to the work of these organizations and

many others we now have some answers we

now know which programs do move the

needle on things that we care about like

child welfare and education and job

training and recidivism armed with that

information aren’t we in a better spot

as people who care as concerned citizens

as philanthropists as policymakers to

make good decisions we need to follow

data we need to focus more on research

and we need to demand that of

governments and of ourselves because

policy ideas that truly are we’re

spreading

or the ones at work thank you

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