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That Trojan Queen | Marina Carr | TEDxDCU


good evening everybody can you hear me

I’m told I speak too low so I’m going to

try and speak up and the voice gets

lower so I’m here to speak to you this

evening about that Trojan queen that

Trojan Queen being Hecuba and the fabled

queen of Troy the Phrygian horse woman

all the statues of her the wife of Priam

the mother of 18 children they say if

you believe all the legends some say an

interesting fact that Shakespeare based

King Lear or that Lear is Shakespeare’s

response to Hecuba and or to put it

another way

Lear is the male Hecuba there are many

parallels both inhabit a haunted

universe the gods are absent in both

both had everything both lose everything

one house on the heath one on the shore

their children dead at their feet both

are pushed beyond the limits of what one

might just have justifiably be asked to

endure on what sattell calls this black

earth the Greeks went around calling

everyone except themselves barbarians

but hdf kiddo

the famous scholar on all things Greek

says that the Greeks were the original

barbarians and what they did at Troy was

something more than war it was the

annihilation of an entire civilization

it was genocide there’s something about

Troy in all our imaginations the image

of it as a race and also as the human

race and in a way you could say we all

lost Troy that that Bronze Age pink

walled city has something beautiful and

mysterious about us that we’ve forgotten

that we buried something sacred there if

you believe in the spirit in what Yeats

calls beautiful lofty things then we are

all of us all the poorer without Troy

Euripides

great Greek playwright wrote a play

called Hecuba circa 500 BC now my Hecuba

the cheek of me is a response to Europe

at ease across the centuries and while I

love and admire the plays of Euripides I

feel who did an injustice to Hecuba and

I always thought Hecuba got an extremely

bad press largely thanks to Europe ”tis

rightly or wrongly I never agreed with

the verdict on her

so the Hecuba I wrote is an attempt to

re-examine an in part redeem a great and

tragic Queen history as they say is

written by the winners sometimes I think

myths are too and the fragile Greek

states are 500 BC needed to get certain

myths in stone to bolster their sense of

themselves and validate their savage

conquests it was very easy to trash

Hecuba she was dead

for 700 years she was trojan she was the

enemy and most of all she was a woman no

doubt she was as flawed as the rest of

us but to turn a flaw to a monstrosity

snacks to me of expedience

so my Hecuba is an attempt to show her

in another light how she suffered what

she might have felt and how she may have

reacted so to read you from the first

part and I’m the one cheating tonight

everybody else has her dog off by heart

but it’s one of the joys of being a

player I should get to read you don’t

learn it off by heart so and what you

might need to know just a little

background knowledge on this so Hecuba

obviously is the queen of Troy she’s

married to prime as the king of Troy and

the other person in this scene is

Agamemnon and they speak together

Agamemnon is the Mycenaean King he’s

head of the Greek army

it wasn’t Greece then actually there

were just bands of warring Punk’s

looking for advantages basically what

they were coming to Troy apparently they

were off of open 40 Kings who came to

Troy looking for plunder and booty and

one more vicious than the next so he and

argument

and heckuva will speak other names may

in this scene Cassandra the little

prophetess one of the daughters of King

Priam and Queen Hecuba she foretold it

all and nobody would believe her this is

how she was cursed by Apollo Pollux Anna

the other daughter of Hecuba by the time

the play is over Pollux no will have

been sacrificed on an altar by the

Greeks so the wind can change or not

change or blow or national it’s very

difficult to know what’s meant to be

going on with the Greek wind and then

Polydorus the youngest last living son

of Hecuba and Priam

Helen famous Helen of Troy the face that

launched a thousand ships

apparently Helen was the reason the

Greeks went to war against the Trojans

because Paris had stolen Helen etc etc

some say Helen was never in Troy that

the Greeks made her all that they was

they she was the reason they gave for

invading Troy not much has changed

really they’re still reasons being

invented to invade other countries so it

seems that centuries change epochs

change locations change but human nature

does not change very much the blood lost

in the seems to be as terrifying as ever

I’m your prophet of gloom and doom

tonight here I apologize in advance okay

so this is Hecuba and she’s in the

throne room

Troy has fallen Hecuba so I’m in the

throne room surrounded by the limbs

torsos heads corpses of my sons my women

trying to dress me blood between my toes

my son’s blood six of them seven of them

eight I’ve lost count not that you can

count anyway they’re not complete more

an assortment of legs arms chest

somewhat the armors still on some

stripped hands and a pile whose hands

are they ears missing eyes hanging out

of sockets and then a drama care comes

in screaming holding this bloody bundle

my grandson intact except for his head

smashed off a wall like an eggshell

there through the South Gate she says

they’ve breached the Citadel they’re

here I say put him with the rest put him

beside Hector his father’s mangled

she won’t stop screaming shut up I say

you’ll draw them honest I tell the women

to cover her mouth we have no soldiers

to protect us all dead are still

fighting trying to save their own women

children and I don’t know where prayin

is he went out a while ago when was it

last night yesterday my women are

putting perfume on me perfume I swapped

them away the smell of blood wading in

at the tang of rotting bodies everywhere

bodies that came out of this body and I

wanted vomit but there is nothing in my

stomach they’ve cut off our food

supplies and Casandra standing at the

throne that smirk on her face I told you

so did I not tell you so and I could

kill her right now and Pollux and

they’re looking at me petulant willing

me to turn it all around make it all

right make sense of it and I’m glad at

least my little Polydorus is safe we’ve

sent him to Thrace away from all of this

and then a soldier comes reeling in the

door

prions head in his hands my husband’s

head they’ve beheaded him in the great

sky God’s temple I said where’s the rest

of him what good is a head we can’t bury

his head without the rest of them and

the soldier says I don’t know they’ve

burnt the temple burnt the temple the

whole cities in flames he says and he

puts primes head into my hands I sit on

the throne holding it like a baby his

tongues hanging out his eyes are

terrifying a ferocious death I tried to

close his eyes they’re caked with blood

crossed dust I can’t close them and the

soldiers weeping on his knees holding my

ankles all the men castrated he says not

enough to kill and desecrate them too

and I say the women what about the women

the children the women too they’re

killing the women he says all the old

ones the ugly ones the ones past

childbearing past work and the children

I say Priam’s head is oozing onto my

dress the children he says all the boys

and old girls under 10 why I say though

I know it’s a stupid question not enough

room of the ships he says they’re

rounding them up have them in the cattle

pens and I think this is not war in war

there are rules laws codes this is

genocide they’re wiping us out and then

they’re shouting clashing of swords more

screens and Agamemnon is in the throne

room this is agony No

fabled Queen I say she hears the mockery

in my voice though it’s not complete

mockery I’ve been wanting to get a good

look at her for a while and there she is

perched on her husband’s throne holding

what his head the blood flowing down her

arms and what arms they are long and

powerful what’s that I say she doesn’t

answer just looks at me as if I’m a gold

heart the snug cocked is straight back

3,000 years of breeding in that pose

this is Hecuba game they told me many

things about him this terror of the

Aegean this monster from Mycenae but

they forgot to tell me about the eyes

sapphires transcendental eyes fringed by

lashes any girl would kill for I pretend

I don’t know who he is and you are I say

you know damn well Who I am

he laughs and you may stand Agamemnon

and she says she’ll stand when she feels

like it

so I lift her off the throne now that

wasn’t too difficult was it I say I

can’t resist twirling her though I know

it should show more respect used but

good very good

I was expecting and I would hide with

her belly hanging down to her knees but

she’s all right there’s bed and in her

yet Hecuba god bless you he says as he

twirls meet god bless you but war is

hard and the women he smiles a Cassandra

Cassandra smiles back that I keep

trollop

so you’re the man’s slit his daughter’s

throat to change the wind I say

Agamemnon and the wind changed I tell

her the wind changed

Hecuba and I wonder what sort of wife he

must have this barbarian who calls

himself King Agamemnon and she’s looking

me up and down she has an eye on her 18

children I’m told I wonder if they’re

all primes

I wouldn’t mind making a son with her

only way to start a woman like that out

isn’t bad take the heart in Sheen offer

the arrogance even when she’s skidding

in blood stepping over corpses the lip

curling this is my husband hath

husband’s head she says brandishing it

happening you didn’t even have the

decency to give me back his body

Hecuba these are the remains of my sons

I say pointing to the dong heap of lame

heads hearts next next I loved and

kissed I have to bury them I say

Agamemnon safe my men will take care of

it

I see the corpse of an infant who’s that

I say hecuba’s command Ria’s Hector’s

babe

Agamemnon I thought his name was a Stein

executor no scheme andreas why do you

want to know Agamemnon I wonder then

that Hector have two songs these Trojans

soul I can’t have any of them alive

where’s the boy I say what boy she says

do you know what boy I say Polydorus

your boy your last born heckuva I don’t

know

Agamemnon you know Hecuba he’s nine he’s

a child

Agamemnon children grow up fast last

thing I want is to Trojan sails on the

wide Aegean your boy at the head of

activity he’s no threat to you where is

he he Said’s can see the anger rising in

him the man of sudden rages can’t be

thwarted I must be careful prime sent

him away for safekeeping six months ago

I say I don’t know where as stabbed goes

through me Polydorus

they’re gonna take you to Agamemnon you

know well where he is and the longer

this business goes on the worse it’ll be

for you and she starts crying please she

whispers please the face crumpling I’ve

seen that look before on my wife’s face

when they made me drag if you janilla

from her arms but I can’t let the boy

live this is war these things have to be

done don’t you have children she says I

have lots of children the daughters are

stoners can see the mother and then what

she must have been in her prime not that

I mind the old hands have a weakness for

them all said board the nostrils of

girls these long years they know nothing

understand nothing but a look and this

one’s I mean topper I gave plenty to see

that look hast I waited challenged then

transported once I’d get to the animal

in her the young ones won’t reveal that

I think it’s all flowers and moonlight

and concealing think they have all of

time to declare themselves with this one

and star-like might take a while to get

her done and willing but by god when you

did heck given my husband’s body where

is it Agamemnon I tell her there’s no

time she has to get on the ships but

she’s not listening she’s losing it

we’re evacuating Troy burning it to the

ground this

of liars and rapists she’s listening now

turns on me blood rising hands shaking

with rage goes into a real spittle on

her lips as she gives bent you came as

guests she hisses Hecuba you came as

guests rolling in here stinking of gold

a mackerel and you came with malice

in your hearts you saw our beautiful

city our valleys our fields green and

giving you had never seen such abundance

you wanted it you must have it you came

to plunder and destroy Agamemnon and she

rattles on about there paved streets

their temples there are marble libraries

their holy job priests their palaces of

turquoise and pink gold I say where’s

heaven we can’t find her HECO Helen

Helen Helen was never here and where you

know Agamemnon you have to admire her

the brazen stance I say you stand here

everything lost and still you lie who is

this Helen she says and if she could get

her hands on her she tear her asunder to

enter a man’s house I’d say to bed his

wife to kidnap her to kill her to do

away with the evidence we want Helen

back we have our dead to bury to Hecuba

Helen does not exist you made her up

you needed a reason to take it all there

is no heaven there never was a Helen

yeah yeah yeah he says that’s your

version cassandra snorts plays with our

bangles stares at him we need a treaty I

say I must calm down save what I can we

need to hammer out a treaty Agamemnon

now you want to treaty the little

prophetess is wearing the bracelet I

sent her you’re far too young the other

girl glares oh I know she’s no innocent

gave many happy hours with the bold

achenes way past time for treaties my

good lady I tell the soldiers to round

them up get them on the ships I’m going

nowhere she says till I bury these she

waves her hands

obviously the place is an abattoir thank

you very much [Applause]

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