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Small Money – Big Impact | Peter Fanconi | TEDxZurich


right now 2.3 billion humans are living

in poverty 2.3 billions that’s one third

of human population 2.3 billion can be

defined to either being extreme poor or

moderately poor 900 million individuals

live in extreme poverty and the reminder

is so-called moderately poor if you are

defined being a person living in poverty

the definition basically is a claim to

the amount of money you are able to

spend per day according to the World

Bank today we are talking an average of

1.9 to 2.5 US dollars a day in order to

pay for your nutrition pay for your food

pay for your education pay for medical

care and also pay for your housing if

you have access to 2.5 dollars a day you

will never ever be able to save any

money you will never ever be able to

invest any money and to build your own

future it’s not only about numbers it’s

actually about faces because that’s what

we read the newspapers we always see the

large numbers but what we need to

understand 2.3 billion individuals or

individual faces with stories with

families with kids with fathers with

desires with hopes with anxieties so

what I tried to do initially I tried to

spend a lot of time trying to talk

trying to listen trying to understand

what are the real needs of poor people

today and I spent bulk of my time in

so-called frontier markets or emerging

markets where I usually don’t wear nice

suit azar there as I do today spend my

time somewhere on the road in a pretty

miserable hotel usually and

trying to fight my way together with my

colleagues but to meeting people Africa

is an example you might know today in

Africa hundred and thirty million

children and kids or in the age group of

getting access to schools and

universities out of this number however

only fifty million are actually provided

schooling and education and the reminder

has no access there are excluded from

any hope from any chance to actually

visit a school and go and study this is

a picture in Cameroon I’m not teaching

here I was just taught a French lesson

here because Cameroon as you know is

french-speaking now

poverty we need to understand if you’re

poor you can be homeless or you actually

live in huts without roofs you’ve got no

heating you are exposed to nature 70% of

the population today has no access still

no access to piped water medical care is

a disaster if you are modern if you are

receiving a child the likelihood of

maternal to death is extremely high and

one-third of the population today still

has no access to any recognised identity

has no access to any electricity and

keep in mind without electricity

it gets pretty dark at night it gets

dark starting at 5:00 6:00 p.m. and

evening the only alternative is using

kerosene kerosene is absolute disaster

it brings a lot of illness and lastly

poverty also has got to do having no

access to any banking facility because

only if you have got an access to bank

facility you might be granted alone you

might can ask for credit but if you are

excluded from the banking system you

will not be given the opportunity to

participate in the society we all live

in today now in order to understand how

you can actually fight poverty and all

of you know you know we have been

deploying billions of US dollars or in

development aid over the last decades as

of today

this is still the situation development

aid has reached certain goals has

fulfilled certain objectives but the

four poor level we are seeing today is

still disastrous the recent Nobel Prize

winner Angus Deaton he actually calls

development aid the modern colonialism

and there are other very important there

are people out there doing a lot of

research they believe a aid actually

kills and I want to show you now why I

personally believe together with my

colleagues working together with me our

beside actually providing pure

development aid you can really fight

poverty Nelson Mandela poverty is not an

accident like slavery in apartheid it’s

man-made and can be removed by the

actions of human beings poverty is

man-made Muhammad Yunus forum a Nobel

Prize winner and founder of the Grameen

Bank we have created a society that does

not allow opportunities for those people

to take care of themselves because we

have denied them those opportunities to

take care of themselves that is not what

Aid is about but what impact investing

for example and microfinance and

providing credits to individual that is

basically providing aid and help to

individuals to really work with their

own perspectives and helping themselves

it’s all about including the excluded

how can we include 2.3 billion

individuals in our society in our

financial systems and please don’t be

miss on the stake and people today who

are excluded in the system they have got

one desire they’ve got one hope they

want to become included that is so

important if you’re starving if you’ve

got five children sitting and besides

you and you have get you generate no

income and you’ve got really

difficulties to survive the only wish

and the only dream you had

and ambition is to make that next step

to become included in society Ninh

system you want to help you want to send

your children to education you want to

pay the medical care for your

grandfather etc so it’s all about how to

make people included how to push them

into inclusion that is what microfinance

is actually all about an impact

investing because if you are poor most

likely you have got no access to any

capital just imagine yourself you know

if you were to live in a poor country

let’s take Cambodia as an example fifty

percent of all the people living in a

Cambodia or so-called poor if you are

converting and you would like to develop

and create an own business and help your

family you want to buy you want to sell

you want to produce for all of these

factors you are going to need some money

you need some investment you’re going to

need to buy a couple of pineapples here

in Cambodia you actually can buy

pineapples and you can sell them with a

margin of 25% but you need to have some

money to buy 50 pineapples somebody

needs to give you 50 dollars in order

for you to take them along you know go

from one village to the next village and

sell your pineapples with a margin to

make some profits if you do not have any

cash you will never be able to buy a

pineapple so you need some money and

it’s small money if you ask your friends

and family you will not receive any

funding because most likely your friends

and family will be poor as well you

obviously can go to a bank there are

lots of banks in frontier markets some

of you probably have seen them who

travel a lot the problem is banks will

only provide you money for collateral

for guarantee but since you’re poor

you’ve got no access to any collateral

you cannot pledge anything there’s

nothing you have in your hands so a bank

is not going to help you you can go and

see your so called shark lender the

shark clan the most likely is going to

provide you with some money but research

actually shows for the last 15

is that the default rate by receiving a

funding by a shark lender is close to

90% as no way you will ever pay back

that loan so the only other opportunity

you have is you’re going to see a so

called microfinance institution and a

microfinance institution is going to

give you a loan without collateral it’s

going to be small initially this can be

a loan of $50 in India for example the

average we provide is 50 to 60 US

dollars it can be $1,000 in Southeast

Asia and it can be up to 2 or $3,000 in

Central Asia for example but you’re very

small loans and it’s a loan it’s a

business a loan needs to be paid back

that’s very important and there’s always

an interest rate talked together with

the loan so it’s a business so you

provide money and accessibility to an

individual who actually gets the

opportunity to develop himself you

become a business partner of a poor

people who has no other opportunity in

life impact investing is very different

from traditional investing or from

philanthropy so philanthropy is

providing aid right it’s great support

for a couple of years you can send your

kid into school you might receive some

books but it’s not sustainable it’s not

going to help a family to develop

independently that’s the difference the

impact investing where you provide money

the money needs to be paid back that’s

the important system about that and it’s

not only about because you want to make

money as an investor but it’s

psychologically totally important that

the individual knows it’s a business

relationship and it’s an opportunity to

basically develop financially and

economically and obviously by providing

a loan you’re so sure that you can

guarantee that there’s a social impact

you do not want that the money spent to

buy TV or car but you want to make sure

the money is spent for the right course

so you start to measure the social

impact

you start to understand if jobs are

created if kids are in a better health

if children can go to school and educate

that’s what you measure that what impact

investing is about the company I’m very

proud and representing together with you

know great staff working all over the

world with ambassadors with board

members but also with investors some of

the most from Switzerland what we have

been doing over the last 15 years we

basically have deployed 3.5 billion into

over 60 countries and we are touching

about 30 million individuals as we speak

today the orchard is providing every

eight seconds alone and by the end of my

little speech we will have deployed and

granted 150 loans to individual people

who would not have had any access to

funding these are crazy numbers I’m

fully aware of that but it’s big data

and that’s also the message I want to

convey with you

it is small money but if you multiply

small money and if you assure that

there’s a social impact it’s small money

big impact and I really mean big impact

the examples I’m showing you all know

the people personally George is living

in Tbilisi Georgia has received the

first loan three and a half years ago in

order to build up his little grocery

store now he’s planning to expand he

actually wants to open up a coffee shop

he’s an extreme happy individual today

and he’s running his own business he

would have had no chance whatever to

start a business without receiving an

initial loan three and a half years ago

Carmen is running restaurant in

Guatemala when I made comment the first

time she was a beggar the first loan she

took was $50 the $50 she invested in

buying some pans and plates she started

to cook some food at her home and

started to sell it on the local market

today

shree loan cycles later Carmen is one of

the proudest women I probably have met

because she’s an intrapreneur she runs

her own restaurant

her daughter’s our University she

employs four people in the restaurant

and when I asked her last time what a

plan while she owes she’s going to apply

for next loan because she’s planning to

open up two more restaurants and that is

what I basically mean when talking to

individuals right this is not aid but

you basically accelerate and you help an

individual to create your own fortune

and your own future and that’s the

beauty about really providing some

access to capital and it is access if

you provide food it will go nowhere if

you provide books it will go nowhere you

need to provide capital in order to

really develop individuals and they are

looking for it I want to give you an

example from investment perspective

because they’re always two sides on the

one side is the individual being

receiving funding on the other size it’s

the investor take an example you provide

1 million US dollars over a period of

five years the average loan now company

for the last 16 years is one thousand US

dollars in average the duration of a

loan cycle in average is only 12 months

so loans are being paid back already

after 12 months you basically provide 1

million for 5 years you are going to

reach out to over 55,000 individuals

because you can recycle the money and

every single loan reaches out to at

least 10 to 15 members and friends

within the family these are World Bank

figures so think about that $1,000,000

in five years touches and increases the

life of over 55,000 individuals on the

other side an investor will basically

receive returns because there is

interest rate related to the to the loan

of the last 16 years we have provided on

an annual rate 4% return which in the

current your low yield environment

obviously is also a fantastic investment

but that’s not the cause but it just

shows you it’s a business

over 16 years the default rate with 30

million loans has been lower than 1%

which is absolutely astonishing this is

lower then you know any bank would give

you figures here in Western Europe the

reason why the default rate is so low it

is all related to pride and dignity if

you are individual and you get a

once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to get

access to capital

you will make everything happen to repay

that loan so you’re going to invest it

in whatever cause you have been granted

the money for

and lastly obviously you also have got a

substantial environmental impact we call

these three factors we call them triple

bottom line impact who is actually the

recipient of the money women play

important role in providing micro loans

the overall average is roughly sixty

percent and I want to run you one

example here we made a lot of research

if you have got a male and a female and

both are coming from the similar

background and both of them would be

granted $1,000 what is happening in most

of the cases the recipient is going to

be approached by a friend by a colleague

and he would ask me if you’d be willing

to provide some of this of this loan in

order to double the loan so physically

what happens the colleague would come

giving the money I’ll double it by

tomorrow now research shows that the

women the female would be responsive in

3 percent of the cases and the male

believe it or not will be responsive in

about 27 percent of the cases which is

totally mind-blowing and it’s all over

the world to save picture it’s the same

picture as well in here something you

might want to think about on the weekend

that’s the reason why women have a very

different risk understanding than men

have the cause remains the same also the

man was to protect and wants to help his

children but he’s got a different way of

looking at risks there are several

active

is beside microfinance where you can

basically help and improve it’s about

renewable energy it’s about education

it’s about providing insurance coverage

you can empower women

so microfinance has developed into all

kinds of different topics and areas and

is today you wouldn’t believe it it’s

the fastest-growing asset class in the

world the growth rate is about 30 to 40

percent and that’s beautiful because the

money being pumped into the system is

really helping and is reducing poverty

dramatically that’s the last picture I

want to show you I came back five days

ago from Cambodia and this is all NASA

we have been knowing her for several

years when I met her first she was

really a beggar she’s living at two

hours out of seeum rep in agricultural

area and she had nothing she asked for

loan for $50 to buy a couple of hens

because she wanted to sell out the eggs

in the neighborhood so she was given the

first $50 together with a one-day

training session on some basic

accounting standards just that she would

know and understand what is a margin and

what is the price of an egg she’s going

to ask for now shree loans are cycles

later on she basically has opened a

total new world

she has employed her entire family her

friends are working for her it’s a small

and mid-sized company with over 15

people working for her in the back you

see a couple of hands and docks it’s

difficult to see she’s got two and a

half thousand ducks and I think about

8,000 hens and anybody of you who

potentially you know will be somewhere

in a hotel close to siem rep and have a

breakfast egg that is most likely going

to be come from her form and the amazing

and the amazing thing is she’s making

profits on a monthly basis of over one

thousand US dollars today and the

average income in Cambodia today per

month is $80

she has become one of the most my I

wouldn’t call it wealthiest but

successful businesswomen in the area and

now she’s starting to help she’s

starting to employ other people so it’s

very small money initially but the

impact is phenomenal

and I would all like to ask you to

participate in helping to include

excluded the 2.3 billion colleagues and

friends and families out there they want

to be part of our system we can all help

we can help with very small money the

impact is phenomenal thank you very much

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