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Save Nature | Ved Krishna | TEDxPSITKanpur


good morning psi T Kanpur and thank you

for this opportunity to share my story

with you I’m going to begin in about

2012 I was experiencing this feeling a

lot of you are students here and maybe

you haven’t reached that stage when you

actually experienced a burnout but I’m

sure at some point of time in your life

you’re going to experience this it’s not

a pleasant feeling and it leaves you in

this place which is a situation where

you’re kind of thinking what you should

do ahead and whether life is really

working the way it should so this was

for me it was around 2012 our business

was in very deep trouble we had gone

through a corporate debt restructuring

financially we were not doing well at

all we were trying to do a lot of things

but we went this vicious cycle a

downward spiral where you know we were

not getting the support we needed we

were losing a lot of people in our

business who were not being able to stay

with us as we were not sustaining

ourselves I had also on the personal

front I had recently gone through a

divorce I had two children who I was

trying to build a bond with so there was

a lot happening in that period and I was

questioning whether I’m in the right

place or I should actually give up what

I am doing and start anew maybe take a

sabbatical for a couple of years and

then decide you know what am i is this

really the path I want to be on I had

started working in this business in 1999

when my father decided that he wanted to

travel the world on his motorcycle and

neither of his sons were interested and

he was not even able to sell the

business and go on this journey I

decided to come back and get into it and

I felt maybe that had happened just by

chance

so maybe my path was something else and

my wife now and a guide and dear friend

then asked me a very critical question

and that’s something that changed my

life the question was what would you do

if you could do anything there was no

restrictions there was no money problem

there was no time problem there were no

issues at all what would you really do

and that’s that’s what changed my life

because as soon as I started thinking

if I was to give everything up and start

anew what would it be and the answer was

always around nature I would do

something that would leave the planet

better and maybe that was because I was

brought up in a place which was green I

was brought up in boarding schools that

were around mountains it was deeply

inculcated within me and I started

searching for what my purpose would be

and thankfully around then I also met

another person who influenced my life

greatly this is a person called dr.

Prasad Kuiper and I attended a course

with him and he became a mentor of mine

and he taught me four great things that

led me to where I actually went the

first thing he said is nothing in life

happens by chance if you really think

you just came into this business without

any design then you probably a little

mistaken so there is a design universes

design that happens and you can accept

it or not the second thing he taught me

was that you cannot wish everything that

you’ve gained so far away you have to

take what you’ve gained and build on top

of that you can go to the Himalayas and

try and find the Shambhala and you know

look at it starting anew but there is

already so much that you have why not

build on top of that the third and

probably the most important thing he

taught me was that your purpose is never

about yourself the true happiness that

you experience in life is when you are

actually doing something for others or

you’re trying to serve and so you have

to look at what you can really

contribute that would benefit mankind or

others in your life and the last thing

he taught me was that never think small

think of how you can contribute thousand

eggs you know maybe more than 10,000

eggs of what you’re thinking how how can

you influence more lives or how can you

influence lives deeply so my purpose

became to leave the earth cleaner

through nature-based packaging and why

did this happen what I inherited was a

pulp and paper company which was making

packaging material most of you actually

loo use our packaging material on a

daily basis

of the soaps in our country are wrapped

in that a lot of the sugar sachets are

from our products McDonald’s only uses

our paper for their bags and I hope that

you take away a lot of the food stuff

when you go to McDonald’s because that

helps us sell more but none of you

actually know that we are the people who

are doing this the other problem was

that most of the packaging that we did

got mean there was plastic added to it

so if you look at soap wrappers there’s

plastic on top and plastic in the bottom

and a paper is mainly merely a carrier

of that plastic which also means that

when it’s thrown away it has the same

consequences as any other plastic would

so we were not really influencing that

so we thought you know we have to change

that we are not even creating value

nobody even knows us so we decided that

we were going to do nature based

packaging and what does that mean the

first thing is that nature based

packaging comes from nature it has to

emerge from something which is natural

we were also already using Shuki in

waste to make our path and that was a

great thing because these are the this

is a fiber that is actually going to get

burnt if it’s not used so so we were

already in that space not only that we

were actually using mainly rice husk and

biomass to make electricity we were not

buying any electricity from the

government we were also recovering

almost 95% of our chemicals so we were

really green the way you know

as green as we could possibly be as an

industry the second thing which was

important and we were not doing is that

the packaging has to go back into nature

there has to be an end of life there has

to be something which leads it to you

know get back into Mother Earth and this

was something that we were not managing

because we were totally dependent on our

converters so we decided to work in two

broad areas the first was flexible

packaging and we continue to work deeply

in that area the flexible packaging and

when I say flexible packaging it

basically means the potato chip bags

that you use every day or many other

things which are multi-layered packaging

and they say that you know this flexible

packaging is not even going to go away

in a million years because it’s so

engineered it’s indeed

to really protect the material inside

and the other thing was styrofoam

styrofoam was harming the earth and

again it was non recyclable not

non-compostable so we said you know we

are going to try and find solutions for

these two areas and we are going to find

solutions that our backyard compostable

not just compostable in an industrial

facility or recyclable because we don’t

have any control on what people are

going to do with it

people might throw it and you can’t do

much about it so you might as well

create things which if thrown are

actually going to be beneficial for the

earth the third part of nature based

packaging is solutions have to be based

on the principles of nature and what

does that mean so no nothing packages as

well as nature does you just have to

open your eyes and look around you

as soon as you start looking you find

that there are so many things that

nature offers in packaging the first and

foremost principle for packaging is that

it’s Dharma is to protect now if you

look at a pomegranate which I have shown

on the screen

it’s such a fine fine fine seed it’s so

delicate and it’s so beautifully

protected by this outer covering and you

see the inner layers within the

pomegranate which again separate the

seeds from a banana one another and keep

it protected and this is just one

examples there the example there are so

the other thing that is really important

in packaging is that whenever you

package something you want to know from

the outside what is inside and what we

do in today’s modern world is that we do

a lot of advertising around it there’s a

lot of printing which tells you what is

inside it but in nature it’s very simple

you can never mistake an orange for a

banana that’s the way it is shaped

that’s the texture that’s the whole idea

it’s in your mind as soon as you see a

watermelon you know what it is as soon

as you see a pea you know what is inside

it so you know it is it it is designed

in a way where you know it shows what it

is they are the one thing that we all

look at is expiry date in our packaging

maybe it medicines be it food what does

nature do again very simple the

packaging itself changes color shape

smell and eventually if you open it

taste the unpacking experience has to be

wonderful and you cannot ever compare

the unpacking experience of nature as

you know we unpack Vivi tend to struggle

hard box from Amazon comes you tend to

rip it apart you try to sort of in your

opening potato chip bag you’re trying to

struggle hard or you know trying to tear

it there are so many things we have to

do in the packaging we make look at the

unpacking experience of most of the

things that are made in nature

look at when you peel an orange you put

that thumb in and it’s just sort of fun

peels you look at that banana you you

just take off the top and you and peel

that banana you look at the eggs you

know you press it from the top and to

the bottom nothing is going to happen to

it they say you know you can apply a lot

of pressure and are things would happen

and you take a little you know a little

knife or four can crack it on the side

and there it opens out so there are so

many ways in the nature and packages the

amazing thing is that nature packages

every sort of matter there is the solid

the the what you see on the screen is a

shell of an Avalon it is the hardest

substance you can find on earth there is

liquid packaging you probably drink

coconuts you know many many times and

look at that it’s it carries that liquid

for so many months and years within it

and nothing happens

gas is also covered and packaged in

nature most of the fishes they have an

air bladder

they contain gas and of course gas is

also carried within us our system our

lungs so there is all sorts of packaging

in nature so these are such just some

ideas from nature and this is not it

there is a lot more we can talk about

within nature one of the things is that

it uses only a single source of energy

it’s only uses Sun there is no real you

know high-powered coal going into

producing packaging from nature

water usage is minimal it gives back

what it is taking in so there are so

many things we can also look at when

process goes but so what you know what

are we going to do with that idea so the

main focus for us became how are we

going to make this purpose of making

packaging through nature come alive we

all suffer from this we all get into our

comfort zones we’ve all maybe many of us

have heard of the Stockholm Syndrome

where you find when you fall in love

with your own kidnapper and you start

finding you know we hear of people who

have been in prison and don’t want to

leave prison because they’re so happy

they become so used to that I won’t say

happy so the idea is to shake yourself

and get out of comfort zones or status

Co this is a big one which I had to face

many many times and I probably continue

to face every day I have to remind

myself am I taking this decision from

fear or emp’d am i taking it from a

place of love or connectedness and we

find that you know in our lives we feel

so much fear of the unknown that we

don’t want to disk we don’t want to take

we don’t want to take risks and we get

governed from fear you know what will

people say what will my parents think

will they succeed will does not succeed

will my financial security go away so

you know these are things that keep you

from taking anything making making

anything large happen the last is that

we can talk as much theory as we want we

can harp all about nature we can talk

all about protecting the earth but we

have to make it real we have to have to

we have to find a way to make it happen

so this is the big huzzah what did we

really do which is changing the way we

live and hopefully will make some impact

you know through the work that we

actually do so we ended up creating

something which is written on my t-shirt

it’s a brand called Chuck which produces

compostable packaging to replace

styrofoam mainly and plastics not only

did we do that

we actually ended up challenging a lot

the first was that we went for huge

scale when we went to place order for

our machines our supplier was aghast

because we said we want to buy eight of

the fastest biggest machines and the

most automated machines in the world

they said you should start much smaller

take a small machine experiment with it

and then go big he said no we are trying

to make a pair maybe you’re trying to

make a dent in a huge pile and in order

to do that we have to find a way to sell

it it’s not that we’re going to produce

less so we’re going to try and produce

as much as we can so we set up a

capacity initially of making a million

ton million pieces a day of material and

we said not only are we going to do that

please also take an order for eight

machines the next year and sixteen

machines the year after that so the idea

was how do we go from a million pieces

to to million pieces and then four

million pieces and then we will make

some sort of a impact and this was

mainly done from a place of wanting to

do and be close to the to our purpose

the next assumption that we challenged

was that the we were told that the

market only accepts white especially in

India we are used to wanting things

which are nice and clean and brown

doesn’t look clean but we were again

challenging and being close to our

purpose our purpose was to make things

which were more earth friendly as soon

as you want to make it white you’re

going to add beaching chemicals which

has two problems one is you adding more

chemicals and the second is that you’re

losing more fiber so in the end you are

damaging you you’re not optimizing the

usage of fiber so we said we are going

to challenge that why not make it more

natural-looking as well the third thing

we did was that we challenged the whole

design idea everything you see in the

market is going to be round we are used

to round plates round balls and you know

round serving bowls as well we said now

we are going to study what the problems

are in the market and we are going to

try and solve them when we studied the

market we realized there was a disparate

amount of things which were actually

being used in order to serve and we said

you’re going to be going to learn from

Lego and see how they fit one thing into

another and we’re going to give the

power of usage to the customer the

customer can decide whether they want to

come to compartment or the three

compartment by fitting these two bowls

into everything but that also meant that

geometry had to shift it had to be a

square or a rectangle instead of a

circle the third thing was the business

typically was divided into three broad

areas people made pulp people made

products and they were marketing

companies we said no we’re going to

challenge the whole thing by giving a

cost advantage to our customer and we’re

going to do that by making the pulp

ourselves designing and making the

product ourselves and then also trying

to make a brand and marketing it

ourselves which again was going against

the trade norms so what happened really

well the product has just been launched

and we are trying to market it and we

are we are finding a huge wonderful

response that you know was as many in

many ways unexpected we thought it would

take even longer

but the bigger thing is that I wake up

joyful every morning because of finding

the my purpose I was struggling to get

out of bed I was struggling to get into

work I was motivating myself every day

and Here I am my wife needs to draw me

out of my office every evening to say

you know stop come and spend time with

us because I’m just so engrained in the

mission and the purpose that we are

trying to resolve the second thing is

there’s a lot of recognition which

happened because of our fighting of fear

and doing things differently we wonder

India design mark we’ve just won the red

dot which is the highest design award in

the world we’ve been given various other

accolades and recognitions we have an

amazing team today we were struggling to

keep people within the organization and

today we are being able to find

absolutely amazing people to come and

work with us even the stock market has

changed you know our share price meant

of almost five times in the last year so

I’m going to close with the idea that

you have to you have to think big you

cannot you’re thinking small doesn’t

serve the world at all so you have to

look at what is what is your best what

is the best you can give to the world

and try and live up to that let go of

your fears and and embrace that future

so I’m going to do a little exercise

with you if it’s okay

is it okay you have to close your eyes

now you have to think of a place and

time that you feel the most happy

experience that feeling also think what

are your real talents what do you really

enjoy what what gives you true

now think of how you can convert this to

serve the world around you as soon as

you get this you would have found your

purpose so I wish you all the very best

I hope all of you find your purpose and

all of you can live the joy that you are here to live thank you

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