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Our healthcare system doesn’t promote healthcare | Mike Saag | TEDxBirmingham


I’m an infectious disease doc and I’ve

spent most of my career in the context

of HIV and AIDS and I’m really proud of

what we’ve accomplished there but today

I want to tell you a story about a new

challenge I’ve taken on involving

hepatitis C roughly 4 million people in

the United States are infected with Hep

C so that’s roughly four times as many

people because who are infected with HIV

Hep C infects the liver and leads the

liver failure and death and 40,000

citizens a year and that’s about twice

as many people who’s died of AIDS

now HIV and Hep C are similar in many

ways both viruses were discovered in the

1980s both viruses are transmitted

through blood sex and from mom to her

baby and both both viruses are pretty

nasty but the big difference is this Hep

C is curable

readily curable over the last 36 months

about a dozen new drugs have been

created that cure 98% of people with one

pill once a day for 12 weeks that’s it

98% cured virus gone oh and as a bonus

once someone’s cured they don’t transmit

the virus to anybody else so we have the

potential to eradicate Hep C from the

United States all we have to do is

identify all four million people get

them into care give them one pill once a

day and it’s gone but there’s a catch

the new Hep C drugs came to the market

wearing a price tag of ninety thousand

dollars per treatment course so if we’re

going to cure four million people that

runs up a cost of about three hundred

and sixty billion dollars which is more

than we spend

annually in the United States on all

prescription medicines now compare this

90,000 to what it costs in other

countries say Egypt $900 1/100 or

sub-saharan Africa $300 in the former

Soviet country of Georgia a drug company

is giving that country free drug and

they will eradicate Hep C from the

Soviet country of Georgia by the year

2019 so these that this you’re sitting

here wondering well how can this be well

let me help in the United States

medications are regulated but but prices

are not so you can have the

pharmaceutical companies will come out

and they can set their prices at

anything they’d like so the usual

rationale for this is that research and

development will pay for or justify the

cost but in reality R&D costs are only

about 15 or 12 percent of a

pharmaceutical company’s budget now the

issue is that when the companies charge

this amount you sit there and wonder

because as evident on television every

time you see a golfer pitching for a

high-priced drug or a celebrity or

perhaps to a couple sitting in bathtubs

holding hands

the sunset you know their marketing

costs are quite a bit higher than their

R&D costs so it’s a fallacy to say that

the R&D costs therefore prices must be

high now these are not alternative facts

or fake news these are

honest-to-goodness realities and a

healthcare system run amok another

fallacy a belief held by many is that

the market will control the costs now

this may be true if there are multiple

options for any single disease roughly

comparable to when we buy a car or TV or

a cell phone but this is often not the

case if you want to live you need to buy

what keeps you alive and the competitive

options that would ordinarily keep

prices in check simply don’t exist

what’s worse we as providers patients go

to buy drugs and the price is hidden

from them and even hidden from the

provider who prescribes a drug say what

that’s right

providers prescribe and patients buy

without knowing the price tag not

exactly like buying a car or TV or cell

phone where you can find your prices on

the Internet so you’re probably

wondering how that can happen well

here’s how it works

drug prices are negotiated but the

negotiated price is kept under a shield

a confidentiality or I call it a cone of

silence where only the drug company and

the agent of the pharmaceutical

are the ones who know the price the the

actual price is hidden from the consumer

patient and the providing position now

if this sounds to you like theater the

absurd when you heard it correctly it is

theater and it is absurd we call it

health care

but for the four million people with Hep

C it’s what keeps us from getting them

into care and curing them because at

these prices we can’t afford it the

system is rigged by pricing doesn’t

promote health care it promotes disease

and welcomes death let me offer an idea

or two for you to you for consideration

first let’s get rid of the law that

prohibits the federal government from

negotiating lower prices with Pharma in

case you missed that there is a law that

prohibits Medicare from negotiating from

lower prices with the federal government

so let’s get rid of that once we’ve got

negotiated prices we the people should

be able to see those prices so let’s

require the government to publish the

prices for all of us to see as a

provider the government tells me what

they’re going to pay me for my services

and that service cost is published let’s

have the government tell Pharma what

they’re going to pay for drugs and

publish the price and while we’re at it

let’s have them demand that all

insurance companies publish the

negotiated price for all of us to see

this would create downward pressure so

that the price of drugs would go lower a

simple solution would be to open our

borders to the importation of generic

drugs now these drugs are produced

safely cleanly and effectively all over

the world given a borderless market and

open negotiations in public public

published pricing patience providers and

payers alike will have access to the

lowest cost medicines and finally let’s

get rid of laws and loopholes in the law

that allow drugs that like daraprim

which cost about $10

a few years ago and in one day went from

ten dollars to 750 dollars in one day or

remember EpiPens though that drug was a

hundred dollars a few years ago now it’s

600 dollars so let’s get to that get rid

of that loophole that allows these

renegade companies to charge ridiculous

prices for life-saving medicines

crippling our ability to keep them alive

so what can we do to enact this change

what can we do let me offer you a couple

suggestions number one get informed

there are tests what you’ve what I’ve

just told you and see if it’s true there

are ample websites that give you

accurate deep information on this topic

one of my favorites is the families of

Kaiser Family Foundation which is a

phenomenal website for all things

related to health care and financing or

just simply Google drug pricing in the

US and we’ll be flooded with reliable

websites that can inform you even

Wikipedia has a great page on this topic

if you found that I misled you in any

but if you found that I told you the

truth

join me on this issue number two right

and call your congressmen and women

write them call them visit them when

you’re in DC tell them that you’re

embarrassed by the facts of this matter

tell them that you want negotiated lower

pricing by the government those prices

to be published get rid of those

loopholes that allow epi pens and

daraprim to be product priced at

ridiculous levels and create competition

by opening our borders to the

importation of generic drugs what could

be more American than that and finally

believe in the possibility of change is

evident through our political season

there’s no question that change is

possible

and whether I agree with the change or I

oppose it the evidence is mounting that

an informed and motivated public can

enact change believe it act on it and

join me in saving costs but more

importantly in saving lives this is one

example where the old adage is

absolutely true the life you save may be your own thank you

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