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Life Pivot | Ted Chervin | TEDxSageHillSchool


nice to be here tonight I wanted to

share my life pivot with you back in

1993

when I was 29 years old I quit my job as

a crime busting federal prosecutor in

New York City packed my bags and I moved

3,000 miles away to sunny Los Angeles

California to try to make it as a

Hollywood talent agent I basically

traded in my Justice Department badge to

try to become a real life Ari Gold and

enact my own real life entourage that

was my life pivot and I think it’s it’s

instructive to think about the word

pivot in connection with what I did with

my life and when you think about pivot

and basketball somebody plants their

front foot and turns and changes

direction and gives themselves a chance

to change the entire complexion of a

game if you think about pivot and

business startups use the word pivot to

talk about a change in direction or a

change in focus for their business they

may have originally been focused on one

concept and based on what they learn

change direction to focus on something

else Instagram Twitter some of the

biggest successes in business succeeded

after pivoting now my pivot may not have

led to success on a scale of Twitter or

Instagram but it certainly led to a

fulfilling life for me and I thought it

would be instructive to share with you

my story and some of the lessons that I

learned along the way from the time I

was a kid I always thought I wanted to

be a lawyer and and to me law seemed

glamorous fancy suits beautiful offices

advising people on important matters

it was glamorous to me it was romantic

to me my grandfather had been a lawyer I

looked up to him that was a path I

wanted to take and I also found that

when people asked me what I wanted to be

when I grew up and I told them I wanted

to be a lawyer that was met with

acceptance and approval and and that who

doesn’t want to be accepted and who

doesn’t want the approval and we’re all

raised to get the approval of our

parents and our teachers school

administrators code

his bosses we’re all taught to sort of

seek approval of others and so it was a

very sort of natural extension of my own

interests and my own sense of myself at

that time to pursue that path so I did

well in high school and I got into a

good college and when I got to college I

took the liberal arts equivalent of

pre-law English classes history classes

philosophy classes political science

classes I did well took the LSAT I

studied hard for it I nearly got a

perfect score on the exam had great

grades was Phi Beta Kappa had that high

score on the LSAT I applied to all the

top law schools I got into every single

one of them Harvard Yale Stanford I went

up going to Harvard Law School again

right on my path everybody thought they

knew me and knew what I was about and

knew where I was headed and I and I

thought so too and I got to law school

and I was interested in law enforcement

and trials and I did a trial advocacy

workshop that I enjoyed and I I did an

internship in the Cambridge DA’s office

which was a lot of fun and I decided I

wanted to be a prosecutor when I got out

of law school and so I did a little bit

of research and found out that the way

to do that was to clerk for a federal

judge if you could and then get some

litigation experience potentially and

then apply to one of the top prosecutors

offices and hopefully get a job i short

cutted that a little bit i clerked for a

federal judge i applied out of my

clerkship to the United States

Attorney’s Office in the Southern

District of New York which is the

federal prosecutors office in Manhattan

and I was lucky enough to be accepted

and 24 years old right out of my

clerkship I was the youngest person they

accepted in the office was very unusual

to accept somebody who didn’t have law

firm experience for those of you that

aren’t familiar with it the United

States Attorney’s Office in the Southern

District of New York is the premier law

enforcement organization in the country

it is the elite of the elite four

prosecutors it’s the most prestigious

job you can get in law enforcement as a

lawyer and so I was extremely proud to

get that job and I really really enjoyed

that job in many respects except for the

law part got into that job love meeting

the FBI agents and the DEA agents and

looking over evidence

interrogating you know criminals and and

giving opening statements to juries but

when it came to doing the real meat and

potatoes of the law sitting in a law

library late at night researching cases

writing memoranda to reply to Fourth

Amendment

you know challenges from defense lawyers

all the sort of real legal stuff my eyes

glaze over didn’t love legal writing

didn’t love legal research didn’t love

what really was required to be a

terrific lawyer and so I really started

to think after several years in the job

even though it was prestigious even

though when I went to cocktail parties

and people said what do you do for a

living and I said I’m a federal

prosecutor and people would be like wow

and it feels great to have the wow

factor in your job you know again it’s a

point of pride in it and it makes you

feel accepted and approved and and it

gives you a certain status and so I was

feeding off of that and maybe feeding

off with getting the G ride on the

weekends which was the government car

that you could take all around the city

and never get parking tickets a few

perks of the job the badge you get into

any nightclub you wanted you know they

put you right to the front of the line I

mean I wasn’t my mid-20s I still you

know had certain kid-like tendencies I

liked to go out at night here and there

tear it up but um but I can admit that

now I think the statute of limitations

is long long pass but because I wasn’t

really satisfied with a key aspect of my

job and also because I knew that the

next stage for me in my career was

supposed to be to go to one of these big

private law firms make a bunch of money

maybe defend criminals advise

corporations and put to use all of these

legal skills that supposedly I had

developed at the US Attorney’s Office

because I didn’t want to do that and

actually didn’t think I was very good at

that and I was surrounded by people by

the way who were excellent at it you

know I was honest enough with myself in

analyzing and assessing my skills and my

capacity to see that there were other

people that were better at this than I

was and if I would get into you know the

law business with them after the US

Attorney’s Office they were going to eat

my lunch because these are these are

folks that like sitting in a law library

at 2:00 in the morning reading some case

from the Seventh Circuit Court of

Appeals it might apply to a case in the

Second Circuit Court of Appeals that

might allow them to get some evidence

into a trial that they otherwise

wouldn’t get they lived and breathed to

solve that puzzle at the same time that

I was starting to take a nap you know so

so it led me to start to reflect on what

else I might do it opened my mind to a

whole range of possibilities one of the

things that I thought about was the fact

that I’d always loved watching TV going

to the movies

reading books listening to music playing

and watching sports which started my

mind thinking about whether there was

something possible for me in the

entertainment business and so I started

to reach out to my own network of

friends and colleagues I knew the son of

one movie producer in New York I had a

buddy from college who was a writer out

in Hollywood writing screenplays and TV

shows so I reached out to some of these

contacts for advice and my friend from

college introduced me to his agent I

took a week’s vacation I flew out to LA

stayed on my buddy’s couch and and met

with his agent and when his agent

described what he did it was like a

light bulb went off in my head and it

just felt like a great fit for me he

talked about spotting talent reading

scripts putting projects together

advising clients on how to navigate

their careers through Hollywood you know

he talked about how entrepreneurial it

was how much freedom he had in making

decisions all the surprises that

happened along the way how creative it

was how it was also very much a business

job because he also made the deals for

his clients once his clients got the

jobs and and all of that to me sounded

amazing and I said to him in that

meeting wow that sounds like something

I’d really like and he said well we’ll

hire you and I said well if you hire me

I’ll take the job and so I came back

from that trip in January or December of

1992

January of 1993 and I resigned from the

US Attorney’s Office and decided I would

move out to LA now that decision was not

met with the level of support or

acceptance or approval or enthusiasm

that my decision to go to Harvard Law

School

or clerked for judge Connor or go to the

US Attorney’s Office have been met with

people thought it was crazy

and it made people really uncomfortable

because it challenged their

understanding of me it challenged in

some instances their understanding of

themselves because with my colleagues in

the US

office here was this guy who had done

the exact same things that they had done

and then on the same path they had been

on who was essentially rejecting that

path which called into question their

own decisions that they’d made for

themselves which for some people is a

very threatening thing and so in

thinking about the the theme of defying

people’s expectations this was a

critical moment in my life where in

order to do what I thought I wanted to

do and needed to do to be fulfilled

I had to withstand the scrutiny and the

negative judgment of others which

luckily for me I had no problem doing

even if it was at times uncomfortable

and also forced me to take them even

harder look at my own choices and so I

wound up moving out to California I had

been working in the government you know

for five years I had no money I borrowed

$10,000 from my best friend who was

working on Wall Street making a fortune

and told him I he knew where to find me

I pay him back I promise and I failed as

a as a Hollywood agent I could always go

back to practicing law so you know he’d

get his money back no matter what and he

was a good friend and and you know was

loyal to me and loaned me the money and

yes I did pay him back and and offered

interest he wouldn’t take it I bought

him a watch which he still has never

worn because he doesn’t wear watches but

it sits in his dresser it’s a good

memento and and so I I moved out to Los

Angeles and and to cut to the sort of

end of the story which for me has a very

happy ending I wound up having some

early lucky breaks as an agent at this

agency which was called Broder Kurland

Webb after I became a partner with the

founding partners after five years and

ultimately it was renamed Broder Webb

shervin’s Silverman we grew and built

that agency over the next nine years and

wound up selling it and a very lucrative

deal to a private equity firm in 2006 I

then transitioned over to ICM partners

which at the time was called ICM I

became the head of worldwide television

then four years ago I and a buyout group

bought the company back from private

equity I’m one of the founding partners

now of what it has been renamed ICM

partners which is one of the four

largest and most important talent

agencies in the world with offices in

Los Angeles

New York and London so for me there is

definitely a happy ending to the story

but I also wanted to share some of the

lessons that I learned along the way the

first was to be honest and insightful

about yourself I think it takes a

certain level of discipline to look at

yourself and admit to yourself what

you’re not good at so also to admit to

yourself what you don’t want to do even

if the people around you

have have fit you into a neat little box

and maybe even in your own mind you’ve

put yourself in that box which which has

been comfortable on some level but you

really have to sort of if you’re going

to take that step to fulfillment take a

good hard look at yourself and really

know yourself and admit to yourself kind

of where you’re at the second piece of

advice is to be willing to explore and

dream again when you’re in that box and

you’re on that narrow path there’s a

tendency to have blinders on it’s really

important to realize it’s a big world

out there it’s more accessible now than

ever before with the internet and other

tools of discovery you can know more

about more things and really really

embrace the possibilities in in more

concrete ways now than ever before and

so I think you know exploring and

dreaming is a big part of it now being

stubborn and ignoring others doubts is

another big part of it

people like to judge you and people

judge you based on a whole range of

criteria that they have nothing at all

to do with what’s good for you or what

you want to do for yourself but it’s

still really really tough to withstand

the scrutiny the negative scrutiny of

others that’s something that I think you

know takes the strength of character it

takes inherent self-esteem as opposed to

borrowed self-esteem you’re not

borrowing it from the approval of others

you’re really looking inside and saying

Who am I you know I trust myself I like

myself I believe in myself I’m going to

pursue what I want to do I’m not relying

on what others think of me that’s huge

another big part of it is being humble

you know when I got out to LA from New

York nobody cared that I went to Harvard

Law School and graduated with honors

nobody cared that I went to Amherst

College and graduated Phi Beta Kappa

nobody cared that I was the youngest

prosecutor hired in the US Attorney’s

Office nobody cared that I never

lost a case all those things which I was

extremely proud of and in New York legal

circles were a big deal to people nobody

in Hollywood cared about that

it took some humility for me to realize

that in the in the Hollywood community

there were a whole other set of things

that you could do and achieve that would

gain you the respect of your peers but I

hadn’t achieved any of those yet and so

I had to really start over again and

sort of throw away all of those things

that I thought had made me me on some

level and really you know eat some

humble pie and stand and start to build

rebuild myself as a professional in the

Hollywood community to attain people’s

respect and in doing that that humility

led me to think about well how you know

how do I do that taking concrete

practical steps was a big part of it who

do I call who do I ask for help not

being too proud to ask for help putting

my ego aside making new friends finding

mentors you know one of my partners to

this day Chris Silberman was the first

friend I made we’ve been working

together now for 24 years and he really

gave me a crash course and how the

entertainment business worked because

he’d grown up in Los Angeles and he’d

been in the mailroom in a major agency

and he lived and breathed the

entertainment business his whole life so

he was able to help educate me and

Elliott Webb my first boss and later my

partner was really my mentor I watched

what he did I saw how he signed clients

how he managed clients careers how he

packaged television shows and I pulled

from that and figured it out for myself

with his help with Chris’s help and the

help of a lot of others but again it

took some humility to realize I didn’t

know anything and I wasn’t gonna figure

it out on my own

you know takes a village that that

cliche is true and I found my village

and that really helped me work hard and

I put that in all caps because the one

thing I knew about myself forgetting

everything else was that I had capacity

for hard work I could outwork anybody in

my mind and I was willing to and I

remember back to moving out here I got

an extra legal job on the weekends from

a law firm so I could make a little bit

extra money to help pay my rent but that

didn’t stop me from filling duffel bags

with scripts and driving I was living at

the time in West Hollywood

we drive down to Manhattan Beach and

plant myself in a cheap beach chair and

just read script after script after

script and I kept a journal and I take

notes in that journal and I would you

know literally just immerse myself in

sort of all things Hollywood I had books

I had magazine articles you know there

was no internet back then I don’t want

to date myself but what can I tell you

so I didn’t have the easy tools of just

you know hitting hitting Google and you

know and pressing enter I had to really

sort of you know compile things but I

did and I and I put my social life on

hold for the most part no more G ride no

more badge

no more clubbing at night you know and I

sort of refocus myself and committed to

working hard and these these last three

I think are a little bit less concrete

but also really really important

enjoying the learning I’ve always loved

to learn I think that’s a part of why

I’ve always loved to read because I just

love finding out about stuff and how to

stuff work and getting to know new

people learning about new places and new

things and just that whole process of

learning has always been an essential

part of me and and and by moving out to

California and trying to make it in

Hollywood as opposed to being in law

enforcement it set up this entire new

world for me to learn similarly there

are no guarantees about how things turn

out you know in my case everything

turned out great I wound up succeeding

as an agent finding great clients

packaging hit television shows making a

bunch of money building and selling a

company buying another company I’ve had

all this success but I could just as

easily have failed there wasn’t there

was no way of knowing at the beginning

how the end would turn out and not

everybody has the same tolerance for

risk and uncertainty I discovered along

the way that I did and I’m really

thankful for that and it’s something I

would share with everybody here which is

it’s a big part of going back to the be

honest and insightful about yourself how

much tolerance do you have for risk and

uncertainty I think the more you have

the more you can sort of get to that

last part which is make it all an

adventure have that adventure make your

career an adventure make your life an

adventure one of the things I’ll leave

you all with at the end here is I call

this my life pivot as opposed to my

career pivot because although it was a

career too

that led me to move from New York to Los

Angeles even though I still think of

myself as a New Yorker in many ways but

now I’ve been in Los Angeles 24 years

that choice transformed my life it

wasn’t you know defying everybody’s

expectations about who I was not just

this East Coast establishment lawyer but

something very different you know a

Hollywood agent transformed me entirely

it’s how I met my wife it’s it’s how I

discovered that I fell in love with

Hawaii and spent a lot of time in Hawaii

it’s how I started playing golf in

tennis you know I grew up playing ice

hockey in boxing and doing martial arts

all of a sudden I’m playing golf and

tennis it gave me an understanding of a

community in Los Angeles that I never

knew or expect that I would know when I

was living in New York I got involved in

charitable endeavors I was involved in

an amazing charity that built libraries

and public elementary schools and

trained volunteer readers and I’ve got

trained as a volunteer reader and I got

to read in an LA Unified district public

elementary school for ten years every

Friday with fourth and fifth graders

something I’m very very proud of that

all stemmed from that initial honesty

that I really wasn’t gonna make it as a

lawyer in the way that I wanted to this

insight that I didn’t want to do it even

if I could do it and and the courage to

defy other people’s expectations about

me to conquer my own self-doubt to

withstand the risk and uncertainty and

to take the adventure and it’s been an

unbelievable pivot for me and so in some

ways maybe I am my own individual

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