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Let’s make hearing visible | Philipp Skribanowitz | TEDxPoznan


hello can you hear me that’s great

because I’m going to talk to you about

hearing today and why we should love it

as much as our vision I have to admit

that I have no strong connection to

sound I am not very very deeply rooted

there when maybe my my Adele quote of

hello can you hear me was the as musical

as I get my brother and sister they were

not really great at playing their

instruments so my parents they spared me

off of teaching an instrument instrument

that wasn’t that bad because I had time

to follow my other passions I really

loved building things experimenting

solving problems and at that I relied

more on my sense of vision and my sense

of touch so still today I really like it

when things are tangible and that’s why

today kind of do draw comparisons

between vision and hearing to make it

more graspable for you so yeah I wasn’t

really that interested in hearing I I

didn’t really care about my hearing I

just used it as a sense so how did I get

into this four years ago I was working

in at Atlantic Labs or Berlin based

company builder and I was with my with

my engineering background and human

centered design background I was looking

for a problem to solve and the human

need to fulfill and around the same time

I was having a repeated conversation

with my father who by the way was born

in Poznan um and it went somewhat like

this this conversation hi dad I think

your hearing is not so great anymore

please have a checked yeah I will do it

next week then when I came back three

months later asking how it was he said

yeah I will do it next week three on

Slater I will do it next week so I

really myself felt how hard it is to get

a loved one to take care of the hearing

and with many startup ideas today

I always think what’s the problem there

solving and why is it important

but with that with hearing one of the

five basic senses I thought this is

really worth pursuing there are 650

million

people worldwide who suffer of hearing

loss and only one out of 40 who could

benefit from a hearing aid has one so

far why is that we see kind of two main

reasons on the one hand Hearing Care is

not very accessible it’s expensive takes

a lot of appointments so people rather

procrastinate and it’s highly

stigmatized

we only know hearing aids from our

grandparents and people trying to hide

these flesh-colored devices and so

that’s why then founded nini which by

the way is also running on Ola cracy

which ever just told you about and um we

started attacking this problem of

accessibility first so we built a

smartphone based hearing test that

people can download and take in the

comfort of their home they don’t have to

make appointments they don’t have to

tell others that they might have hearing

loss I can just secretly do it and so

five hundred thousand people now tested

their hearing with these tests amongst

them my father and as it turned out his

hearing is in an arranged where he could

benefit from a hearing aid but he

doesn’t need to get one yet so of course

this showed up the stigma again so he of

course doesn’t choose to get a hearing

aid yet but rather waits so we were back

to Ground Zero and tackling the stigma

problem to understand the stigma on

hearing loss I think we have to look at

as I told you I will draw another

analogies from vision to make it more

graspable in vision and kind of it’s

like one thing that is tested like how

small can something be that you can

still read it in hearing the same thing

as kind of hearing threshold how quiet

can something be that you can still hear

it so I’m going to play a sound now

which is going from loud to quiet I’m

going to ask you to raise your hand when

you hear the sound and take it down when

you don’t anymore

and then look around the room and see

kind of how the people around you here

the first hands going down I see okay

that is hearing threshold and it’s

method measured in decibel and there are

different levels so there is normal a

normal hearing range required sounds

that you can hear hears a sound example

how somebody hears who has that hearing

range the baby has blue eyes so then the

next level is mild hearing loss the baby

has blue eyes the next level so when it

gets hard and harder to understand very

hard now so if we compare the two vision

it’s kind of losing more and more

details as you see here and in the

clouds like in the one we’re kind of the

contrast is brought up it’s very hard to

see the details in the clouds and this

as stronger this gets the more you lose

but there are other things than just a

threshold that can be broken for example

here another example how many colors do

you see – yeah it’s actually the one

thing is a gradient from dark cobalt

blue to steel blue and in hearing this

is called kind of frequency resolution

how well can you tell two neighboring

frequencies apart and when we lose when

our three kids resolution gets impaired

it’s harder for us to tell the

difference between sounds as here shown

with colors so back to a picture example

oops the colors are not so clear anymore

it’s getting blurry then here we see

clearly a blue red alternating and the

one color stops the other color starts

and when our temporal resolution is

broken kind of this is not a clear

border but it’s blurry in time so when

time it is overlapping

so this is so temporal resolution is our

ability to reconstruct the timing of

signals

if this broken we cannot really place it

in time anymore if I move this to vision

in series you see this pictures a little

bit pixelated so it’s not so clear

anymore we’re in space something is

placed and it makes it harder to see

what’s happening on the picture but what

happens if we combine all of these

effects you see the original then you

see the pixelation then the blur and

then they increase contrast and of all

these things combined make it very hard

to pick out that there’s actually a

house standing at the side of the link

so it gets tougher and tougher as these

problems accumulate and hearing what

kind of the most crucial part of hearing

is extracting information in speech and

if you’re not trying to read this um

it’s probably quite exhausting and you

could not read a whole book like this

and this is kind of the situation that

maybe our grandparents are going through

when we’re coming for for a coffee like

they can’t listen for like the first

five minutes

but spending a whole afternoon multiple

people talking it gets very exhausting

picking out the information out of this

and so this is kind of the stage where

we’re getting a hearing aid so when you

cannot even with the miracles of your

brain being able to reconstruct this

information with half of the letters

missing this is kind of the stage where

we’re getting an hearing aid so when our

hearing is already quite a bit gone and

so if we compare the two vision it’s not

like getting glasses but it’s more like

getting a guide dog when you’re blind so

it’s really happening very late and this

also explains the stigma around hearing

loss it’s happening very late when you

are already quite impaired and a lot of

information in the sound space is

missing so what is the equivalent of

glasses to a hearing aid that starts

earlier hearing is of course not only

extracting information out of a

reading is not only extracting text but

if we look at it look at a painting it’s

not only about seeing maybe that there

is a tree standing on a hill but it’s

really on catching these fine subtleties

the brushstroke of the artists when we

look at a painting so what’s the

equivalent in sound of course it’s music

if we look at the music industry the

music industry has put in a lot of

effort to improve sound quality the

artists practices has a lot has very

expensive instruments goes to a great

recording studio great mastering studio

it’s put on on a very lossless file

formats and the fan then is buying very

expensive speakers or headphones to

really get all these details that the

artist puts in to really enjoy that but

if the hearing ability and the last step

is not considered there is something

missing to understand this a little bit

more there is besides the dimension that

I showed you before

there was the kind of the loudness of

sound

there’s also frequencies would soak the

frequencies they go from low to high

like the keys on a piano and I’m going

to play again a sound which is going

from 20 kilo Hertz to 22 kilo Hertz and

I would ask you again to lift your hand

while you hear the sound and take it

down when you don’t anymore because yeah

the higher end is what we lose first

so these are the frequencies and this

teenager can hear up to 20,000 kilohertz

and as we age and there’s where speech

is happening so speech is in a very

lower frequent on the relatively lower

frequencies and a teenager hears to a

very high region and so as we age our

hearing ability Goes Down and it’s

slowly eating into the speech area so it

becomes harder and harder to us to

understand someone but when we look at

music for example taking a violin a

violin is going up to around 15,000 kilo

Hertz so the hearing loss is affecting

already the details in music and so if

we are listening to an orchestra and not

considering our hearing ability it’s

like missing out on all these players

they could just stay at home and you

would have the same experience so and so

kind of not taking taking care of this

this last step of hearing ability is

ifer compared again to vision it’s like

spending a lot of money on an Ultra HD

television and then just deciding to not

put on your glasses so you really don’t

enjoy what you’re paying for then and so

what is the equivalent of glasses in

hearing like glasses for the ears we had

made me recall it to sound

personalization we built an algorithm

that models the human ear then can bring

those details to you – you’re here above

zone again so that you can enjoy it

enjoy those details but we don’t believe

that we all should start wearing hearing

aids now to enjoy the sounds around us

but we are already having devices that

we consume our audio with for example

the smartphone so we can put this

algorithm on the smartphone and we can

connect it to the hearing test results

so the phone knows how your unique

hearing profile is and can adapt to your

hearing ability so we have users who are

crying because they haven’t heard songs

since their childhood like this

we have people who say they’re

rediscovering their home you

library because they’re seeing

subtleties they’ve never heard before

but of course we’re not only concerned

with even one guy he likes it so much

he’s recording mp3s through our

algorithm saves them then puts them on

an mp3 player to go swimming with so

he’s taking all this effort because he

loves his music so much more with all

these details in um but of course and

this done really really lets them enjoy

and really feel what the artists put in

and really completes this whole journey

of sound so but it’s not only the

smartphone’s if you use to consume audio

it’s also headphones stereo system a car

and we’re building the technology that

in all these places you can connect it

to your hearing profile so that on all

these endpoints you hear the sound as

good as possible I would have loved to

give you a demo right now but it would

be similar to giving my glasses and then

asking how you like them so I really

encourage you to try for yourself since

it’s personalized sound um and really

appreciate it I am a self said in the

beginning that I didn’t like sound that

much but now looking back at the last 15

minutes I really got into sound and I’m

I’m way more careful about noise when

I’m in a bar or when we were outside in

the lobby how loud it is and or riding

on the subway in New York and seeing

what it is doing to hearing so I’ve got

way more conscious and appreciating to

preserve my hearing but on the other

hand also enjoying kind of the quiet

details when I was preparing this talk I

was sitting in sitting in our flat and

was listening around so there was the

wind in the trees birds chirping outside

I hit some water running through the

pipes I even had some neighbors having

sex so there are a lot of interesting

things to discover when you really when

you really listen um so I really

encourage you like down the next break

maybe you just take a moment and fill

the space and really listen what is all

the sounds that are going on and what

kind of richness the dimension of sound

is bringing to your lives

thank you [Applause]

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