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La systémique de Palo Alto à nos jours, une révolution consciente | Stéphane Gauthier | TEDxINPENSAT


first of all hello to all farid said
that I will be the best for by the
systemic I’m patient I’ll be the
better to talk about systemic but
I’ll let you know about my
experience versus compared to
all this so I was lucky I have a
very atypical course and at the age of 30
years I had the chance to meet on
my way on my way the systemic and
brief therapy until then I had
a fairly interactional view of
things I have a bts training or we have
necessarily to take all into account
to consider a situation a system
a company and I have a course too
in sports the same way the notions
learning feedback all that does not
was not completely unknown to me and
it’s a moment when I had a big fat
professional change where I spent
of the best riding in the middle of
social support where
I had the chance to meet
christian royer who was himself
therapist in brief therapy who was
formed cork ali gb
the Gregory Benson Institute and who
hires me at that moment for
work on large audiences
difficulty we will do a little bit
of history for people who would have
a little interest in that the origins
so the institute gregory bateson cork
it’s researchers a group of
pioneers of brief therapy in europe
who passed the Atlantic had gone
train mental research institute at
alto palo
they set up the gregory institute
cork benson which is above all a
institute for therapy but that is
also an organism that is in
perpetual work research
precisely on the interactions the
personal development and strategy
of communication the mental reacher
to be instituted is composed of a lot of
people at first it’s the 50s 60
some names that undermines that appear
on the screen are
probably not unknown to you if this
is only something we hear
many currently who is hypnosis
ericksonian ericsson was part
founding pairs beyond
brief therapies and these people have
worked on looking for a new fashion
of taking care of people in
difficulty the years 50-60 is
the emergence of deûle to everything that goes
to be the diagram of the communication the
information processing and together
they will work on one on one
support that I propose for the
understanding where we will start from
the individual the notions that will us
to interest there are going to be already the first
thing it’s going to be the vision that
the individual to him a penalty of himself
how it turns out that she is her
faith in him
and then the second the second notion
important it’s going to be his vision of the world
and his vision of the world is more
what he has gone through since he was born
be it meetings as well
who will do at the school level
diseases that may be going to have some
deaths of people who will come and go
and that’s all that will allow him
to build filters for
identify the world in which he is going
move if we talk about communication
of course we are going to
find with another another
individual in front who is himself going
to have his own vision himself and his
own worldview that says
communication necessarily says a
information that will be sent from one
towards each other and information that does not
will not necessarily be that verbal but where
all nonverbal many more
place almost that verbal at this moment
there obviously there will be a return this
back is the famous feedback
you have certainly been able to tackle under
full of other seams and this feedback is going
allow the first individual to re
calibrate check whether it has been understood or
otherwise it was not the case
reformulate your communication differently
but it was relatively simplistic and he
missing one thing to this scheme for for
that they make sense
obviously the framework in which this
communication will unfold that sounds
obvious but when you play ball
with friends etc we sting you the
ball
you will be able to launch happily
bastards that will necessarily be taken as
I recognize you able to see me
sting the ball
ah if we change the frame and you me
did that during this time again I do not
do not think it’s happening the same
so necessarily the frame to have
huge importance
so all of this will allow them to these
researchers to work on a way
to approach clinical cases by having
at first a lot of dates
ray on what are the interactions
which will unfold in relation to the
problematic is asked ie
which are the individuals who come in
Thu
what interactions are between them and
how is this problem played so what
we will initially look for
it’s like movie sequences
and while we are going to dig and and
explore all these sequences
the most important thing in there is going
to be spotting attempts to
solutions that people have put in place
to solve their problems and interest
of this taking this taking into account
like that sequences and attempts
solution is that from there the
methodology will be more participatory
with the therapist is going to have to
propose a change and this change
he will propose it strategically
compared to what he picked up as
information during the first sessions
to bring back the individual has changed his
response mode to his problem at 180 °
solutions from attempts to
solutions he had put in place at
starting it may seem a little vague but
we will return to As this
on this scheme which is important then
how do I today use everything
that because I tried to make you
a concise summary but it’s
years of training ali gb today
I use this model on several
dimensions I first have a cabinet of
therapists where I get people the
individual patients on
various issues that may be
as well addiction problems
depression behavioral disorders of
things like that
I am also asked to make them
supervision of the teams of
the practice analysis in which I
will actually use all and
decoding to help identify the
circumstances
and then lately finally finally lately
for a year and a half I am
referent of a formula is called a
guaranteed young people coming out of their talk
because the government has not hurt
communicate on it and then there was
a news story not long ago
on this on there there the guarantees
young people it is an accompanying measure
strengthened which targets young people from
16 to 25 years out of school
without a solution of a situation enough
precarious and the goal is to get them to
will define a professional project
the first step in this taking into
charge
that’s what is atypical by
relation to the habits of accompaniment
is that it resides in a month when the
twelve individuals meet together
in a group with a conductor so
in this case me and there all I
explained to you before going to take his
dimension ie that these are the
interactions that will be created that will
exist in this group who are going to us
allow and allow especially to
the individual to identify the errors of
dysfunctional who will commit level
relational communication
to initiate new behaviors
newer attempts more positive more
constructive way to communicate with
others and all that will help him take
confidence in him obviously and more
will solve a number of problems
of cognitive educational order and finally
the professional project it will happen a
little at the end of the chain ie
moment when the individual will be able to
build identify his own
values
learn to communicate differently
with each other from there we go
to be able to start identifying
professional fields in which he
will be able to flourish and that they
will fit best this is all
exciting that’s why I’m doing this
job
but beyond that we have two heads
currently thinking in europe who
are jean jacques vidal and giorgio
nardone in italy who works a lot
together they wrote a book
is called a logic of troubles
mental and in this work he
proposes a decoding even more and
fiction I find with respect to the
problematic but it goes beyond the
problematic in there he develops a
concept called the diagnosis
systemic operative is strategic that
wants to be a little the counterpart of the dsm
for those who know a little bit
in classical psychology that is to say
how to decrypt all this and how
interact then this famous back it is
primary
it’s going to get it’s going to break down into
three very very important notions
the first room is the notion of
control are only control over a
problem you are going to end up the
morning with your laces that breaks then
you are already fluff to go to
work you will take that in hand
you will change father you have
changed the laces you found a
solution you are actor of the
solving this problem there and you in
follow your day
the second the second dominant it’s going
be
avoidance so obviously he
comes in opposition to the first
that is to say that ouhlala this problem I
not sure how to handle it I’m going
let slip and probably who will
to self-regulate the third
dimension is a bit more complicated
this dimensional mummy this is the
validation of belief then in these
areas there
it’s not so much belief in itself
which is going to be important for us to
decode but rather how does the individual
will validate this belief to take
a very simple example
my family system or in my system
school I always was 38 years old
heard that I was a good for nothing
that I was unable to learn and
that’s good when I’m going to find myself
confronted with a test I will not go
give the means I will not dig and
at a time and well I will inevitably
failed when I failed
cqfd self director
this situation makes it valid my
belief and he was right to me
to say that I was a good for nothing since
I’m not able to do it then
we can say it is this belief of
good for nothing who who is harmful there he
must be found but if
we keep the same belief the same
individual can very well say at
contrary i will prove to all the
world they’re wrong I like to give them
means and I will succeed so
ultimately it’s not this belief
to be incapable who will be problematic
and then all we will do
so that’s the notion of
belief validation that goes that goes
come into play on construction 20
positive or negative of the individual then
globally these three notions there all
as much as we use them on a daily basis
once we will control once we go
rather avoided we manage all that with the
beliefs that are ours when we
realizes that our beliefs hold
not well the road
Well, we’ll make them evolve
overall it works when that
begins to become dysfunctional
it’s often that we use a wind
and where two so much more
repetitive is important if we
resumes all three the first
notion of control and ben actually judge
control
and then that it escapes me is a little
antinomian it’s a little paradoxical but
in fact if we take an example of a
educational point of view I want to learn
to my child not to burn and I’m going
very attentive because he’s small is going
not necessarily understand but suddenly I
you forbid to get your hands on the
I am very vigilant I control
the situation constantly for not
that they burn themselves and undergo a
permanent control will only know
ie before this album headset
let go of the bunch so that they can to
to try it and at that moment what is it
that is happening
kiss every time it works childhood
burn the sea ​​I am a bad mother
I have not controlled enough but this
that she does not necessarily have to spot in
this system it’s because she did
that too much control that at one point him
has necessarily escaped on the notion
avoidance there we will appeal to a
given that is ancestral to us be
human who is going to be fear of fear of
to fail of bah I will avoid
I avoided then in some
situations it will work it’s
someone else who will control to my
place and then who will find the solution
finally it’s functional
however, from the moment I start
to lock myself in too much avoidance there
a moment when bassam completely escapes
it’s not me who decides for
take a concrete example
For example, it’s going to be the situations
of agoraphobia I am not very comfortable
as soon as there is a little a group of three
people I do not know how me
position and suddenly I’ll go
to avoid
then I quickly avoid two
times and then as much as possible I avoid
more and more worst time not
finally in the street there are plenty of
people who ben is just as embarrassing and
little by little like that I’m
curl up on me I’m not going out anymore
at home and so avoidance push to
term means that we have a confinement and that
I completely lose control of my
life and then on the 3rd notion that is
belief validation is much more
I like to hang on to hang on to
negative beliefs that do not have
help me build myself and well
obviously I’m going to blossom
it exceeds me for example the
awkwardness we tell you since little
but was awkward not looking yet
escaped this thing here and in you
stick a clumsy label
morality as we go
ask to do something a little
more delicate to say oh there but no
he does not do that thing there he is not
but there is clumsy and of being
clumsy if I confronts I go there
like that a little shaky and really I
will do it I’m still missed and I
will still plant me so a point
functional view
it’s really closing in
in a way de functioning
excessive that will be problematic
so as a therapist it’s these
three notions are controlling excessive
will gradually bring him to a standstill
to avoid a little more excessive levitan one
will teach him to take a little
control of all this and then for what
is validations of beliefs it’s
not quite the same mechanics to
accompany in the direction he will have to
break his suitcases and his
beliefs to allow an individual
to build much new ones
functional what link with tomorrow if at
the base this methodology was thought
to deal with problems
psychological psychiatric
in fact we realize that she has a lot
more than 2 relaxed at the level of
implications since we will find it
at the corporate level we are going to
find at the level of the sport we go the
find many levels
it’s in the interaction that just as much
we are learning at this caliber and
the man does not know can not this caliber
and if the ports interact with its
similar
and then life in general anyway
it’s a year at your lack
multiple interaction one can not
decide on a system and everything works
with and especially you know all
the butterfly effect is exactly
Representative of this operation there
I’m watching more and more people
who will seek to take in
overall situations and not
inevitably that problems but the
management of a company or team
overall and we will realize that everything
it’s going more and more all by itself when we
is we are in a situation we are trying
to treat things more and more
quick
we need efficiency deficiency and
we are looking for a way of
ecological thought in lack of thought
ecological to make a wink to
agronomy
but in the meantime it’s a reality
as described by batson batson
who was an anthropologist and one of the fathers
founders of brief therapy and any
this research has it and more on
the effectiveness of understanding the
communication systems a
efficiency of all that we are in
this operation there high level at
level of people who think all this
currently we have ben pierre rabhi
marc vella and all those people there are in
the general spirit
What I observe is that we are
real ground revolution that
oppose the revolutions that are who
have gone through the in all
the history of humanity or who are
recovered for most of the time by
current religious political mines
and all that is not at all this
revolution coming from the internet
all this allows us to communicate
much more and what I see is
we have a rise of this
would like to end up with a quote from
kennedy do not ask yourself what
your country can do for you but
ask what you can do
for your country
I personally
all this in my life every day of
professional way as personal
and you
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