
and India fortunately we have made giant
streets in the field of technology all
around but there are certain issues
because of which our social progress has
been stalled halted and these issues
emerge from the arena of our society
which unfortunately have derived some
notions from the past some
misconceptions because of which lot of
divisions have been created in the
society
now these divisions which have been
created in the society in the name of
region in the name of religion in the
name of language they’re coming as a big
obstacle for our progress towards a
better society we all know India has
made a long journey from Kingdom’s
feudal society to the industrial society
and in that last many decades the type
of journey we have made is really
phenomenal at the same time we are
seeing that in the society lot of focus
lot of distraction is coming in the name
of divisive issues which have not
anything to do with the social progress
these divisive issues actually lead to
violence and this violence is basically
founded on hatred towards certain
sections of society now how is this
hatred generated this hatred is
generated by using something from the
past something from medieval history
something from the pattern of society
something from the global world so I
will focus myself on couple of things
which I think we can overcome to make
our society better for example from the
medieval times the things which are
taken up that okay there are some kings
who were very bad some Kings who were
very good so recently I came across lot
of things about one great king of India
his name is Maharana Pratap
of course Kings have been good Kings
have been bad Kings have one religion
good Kings bad Kings etcetera etcetera
but the pattern which has emerged in
South Asia
unfortunately that for example in
Pakistan
it is only Muslim Kings who are great
Hindu Kings are non-existent or covered
here there is other image just upwards
of that where the Muslim kings are
looked as villain and that comes up over
and over again I was talking about Rana
Pratap
now did Rana Pratap fight for religion
did he fight against Akbar are Muslim
Kings for the sake of religion for the
sake of Hindu community and what that I
would like to understand along with you
now the battle between Rana Pratap and
Akbar took place in the ground of
colleague hearty in Rajasthan please
note in Rajasthan Hal Ducati there are
better armies of Akbar on one side Rana
Pratap on the other surprisingly in
adverse army up were himself is missing
and in place of Akbar the person who’s
leading the army his name is Raja maan
Singh and gravimon Singh is assisted by
many Muslim generals who are working
under him so please see the composition
of this army
there are Hindus as well as Muslims in
Akbar’s army Rana Pratap on this side he
has a general one of the important
generals called Hakim consu so I try to
understand with you on this side also
there are Hindus are also there they’re
Muslims are also there so please tell me
this battle between Akbar and Rana
Pratap is it a battle between Hindus or
Muslims or is it a battle between two
kings it is a battle between two kings
is it you’re better for religion or is
it for power it’s a power and we are
mistakenly saying our great Rana Pratap
and evil Akbar etc etcetera those sort
of things come up when I am talking of
this I have also reminded two more
things about Aqaba I hope you know all
that Akbar had nine jewels no ratna’s in
his durbar two of these nor applause who
were very important in Akbar skort they
were Hindus please try to recall those
names and bill Belleville will instantly
strike your mind what will not strike
your mind immediately is a more
important King
his name is Raja toward Armel why I
think Roger total world is more
important than verbal because Raja told
Berto dermal in Akbar scold was doing
the same thing which mr. arun jaitley is
doing today in Modi circuit so you can’t
have a more important code here
and this is what we see is that that now
same thing which we when we talk about a
cover of course there are other Kings
also who we may not be as good and in a
course clear case I remind you another
thing in upwards Castle please note in
adverse castle there was a temple yes or
no yes which God’s temple was there Lord
Sri Krishna and when Christian much to
me was celebrated Akbar was
participating in that or by cutting that
he was participating that number one now
I come to our own merits in our
Maharashtra we had a very great king
who’s very much revered by most of the
people of Maharashtra you can guess his
name is Chatrapathi Shivaji Maharaj we
all know because of a railway station
Shivaji our Airport Shivaji our one Appa
Shubin Appa so anyway we Shivaji is
everywhere we respect him a lot but some
people try to tell us that he was NT
Muslim I must tell you
Shivaji respected all religions equally
and I’ll give the evidence of that there
is a very popular story in Maharashtra
where people try to bring in violence
between Hindus and Muslims in the name
of battle of Shivaji with Afzal Khan
they try to present as if a Hindu
Shivaji has killed Afzal Khan but the
story is totally different let me tell
you when Shivaji was going to meet of
Sal Khan he was going without any
armaments and one of his bodyguards told
him that don’t go without armaments and
the name of that bodyguard of Shivaji
was Rustom h’mong Shivaji had 18
bodyguards with him 12 of those gaudí
bodyguards were Muslims
she was his confidential secretary was
Maulana Hagar Ali and in Shivaji’s army
there are 12 generals who were in charge
of his cannon division who was in charge
of his Navy who were Muslims ibrahim gar
the city symbol Dalek Caan all these are
the generals of Shivaji so this is the
Shivaji side no Shivaji on the advice of
this bodyguard wears those iron claws
which we called burgnik in Hindi he goes
and when he goes there Afzal Khan
attacks him Shivaji kills him business
magnate and when Shivaji kills him at
that time of Sal Khan’s secretary comes
out takes out his sword and tries to
kill Shivaji the name of this secretary
please remember was Krishnaji Bhaskar
Kulkarni so again I want to ask you is
it a question of Hindu Muslim or is it a
battle for power battle for power and we
are all very mistaken great Hindu Kings
versus evil Muslim kings and that’s what
we’re I also won’t like to bring in
another king from South India because we
are missing South India in the whole
story and there are the king named
Tipu Sultan from last many years people
are saying our triple Sudan
such a tyrant he converted so many
killed so many Brahmins he did this he
did that so I must tell two particular
incidents about Tipu Sultan once
Murata armies went to attack Tipu Sultan
now there was a battle between Maratha
army and Tipu Sultan and somehow Maratha
armies could not win and Tipu Sultan
could meet could not be defeated I hope
you know that in our cricket also to Mir
to create teams win sometimes there is a
draw the battle became it wrong Marathi
armies are frustrated they are coming
back and in their anger they destroy the
temple in sri ranga patnam please note
Marathi arm is destroying a temple and
that temple was restored by Tipu Sultan
now why America is armies destroyed
temple are they against Hinduism or the
insulting Hinduism no they are insulting
Tipu Sultan and why does Tipu Sultan get
it repaired because he no king can rule
unless he respects the sentiments of his
people similarly people say Tipu Sultan
killed so many Brahmins of course there
are records are like that in British
custody I’ll tell you the reason for
that also but
basically doubt that why I doubt that
because the chief advisor of Tipu Sultan
was a person called
por una y por una Y ax was he Hindu he
was a Bremen with pornea as the Prime
Minister of Tipu Sultan would he dare to
kill others just for the sake of
conversion I’ll come to the question of
conversion before that let me tell you
Tipu Sultan was so respectful of Shankar
Acharya of Khan ChiCom koti beetle that
he used to address as Java guru he gave
lot of donation to string Gary mutt
etcetera etcetera so here we come to the
question of why why temples were
destroyed
please note friends temples were
destroyed temples were destroyed by
Hindu Kings temples were destroyed by
Muslim kings but why why to insert the
religion not at all there are two major
reasons I am just summarizing one was
temples where repositories of wealth yes
or no they were repositories are there
all today also repository sometimes I
feel if the social problems have to be
solved all these when theories can be
used for the poor people 90% of the
problems will be solved anyway I am not
in a position of power
so I ignore that point so tempers are
destroyed we talked about Mohammed’s
destroying Somnath temple when mu
because Noah’s coming to Somnath temple
on his way there were hundreds of
temples he did not touch them why
because they did not have wealth and
what was in saamne so not had the wealth
of 151 crores of rupees in the fount of
form of 20000 golden dinars so there
lies the crew
similarly recently in Delhi in name of a
role was changed I am NOT supporting any
king please note I am against kingdoms I
want the best of democracy so road of
the name was chain ore Ang’s a very bad
of course I know before I go I describe
him further once I happened to be go to
Pakistan eight years ago for a seminar
don’t worry I came back safe now there I
asked them who is a greatest king who
has ruled this part of the country this
world was of course Aurangzeb same or
renege looked at
in one light there another light here of
course he once destroyed happen to
destroy kashi vishwanath temple reasons
are multiple I’ll not go into that but
at the same time there is a book by dr.
vision Bernard Pandey which tells us how
many temple donations were given by
Aurangzeb three of the temples as remind
you one is in karate near Gua t
Kamaka Devi temple in know Jane mahakaal
temple in Uttar Pradesh when Dhawan Lord
Krishna’s temple three places he gave
heavy donations so as rational people we
should think why was he just a temple
destroyer or was he also giving it a
donation to the temple similarly we
think that Islam very bad Muslim kings
came on the horseback sword in one hand
Quran in the other and they spread Islam
let me tell you friends religions are
not spread by kings every rule as the
exception as I say religions are not
spread by kings at the same time I will
say there is a very noble exception to
this rule one of the kings from India
who became Buddhist later on sent all
his propagators to spread the religion
he was only King Emperor Ashok who
spread his religion other kings spread
power let’s be very fundamental about it
so how does Islam come into into India
of course there are some Muslim kings
who threatened their rivals that you had
religion otherwise I’ll kill you that
those cases are there but by and large
the if Muslim Kings were to convert the
population here Hindus would not have
been left after seven hundred years of
rule of the Muslim kings so first I
again I’ll let you
Islam Islam first came to India not
through Muslim kings it came in eighth
century much before the Muslim invaders
came in North India it came on the
Malabar Coast through the Arab traders
and you will be surprised to know that
first mosque which came up in India was
on the Malabar Coast its name is
chariman juma mosque and similarly
Viveca nun and other great people tell
us that it was mainly to escape the cast
ironies that many people converted to
Islam under the under the influence of
Sufi sense while we are talking of this
Hindu Muslim Hindu Muslim issue let me
tell you the greatest contribution to
Indian culture has been from all
religions
I am very sincere about it that Indian
culture is a mix there are contributions
from Islam their contributions from
Hinduism the highest form of this
contribution comes in two great
traditions of India one of the
traditions is what we call bhakti
tradition represented by Kabir
Tukaram Namdeo nursey Mehta and the
other tradition is that of a Sufi
tradition Nizamuddin Auliya khwaja garib
nawaz please I like to request you to
think that docta saints were followed
not just by Hindus they’re followed by
Hindus as well as Muslims and people
from all religions throng the Sufi saint
Durga so basically what I am trying to
say that because of these misconceptions
of history a hatred is being generated
and hatred is the foundation based on
which violence is orchestrated and
violence is the thing which polarizes a
society we have to come back to the path
which Mahatma Gandhi showed us a which
organization showed us which the
National Movement showed us and it was
that path where Mothma Gandhi Jawaharlal
Nehru Sardar Patel leaders Ally like
this led a movement which led to the
Constitution of India giving us liberty
equality and fraternity and fraternity
basically means that we love all the
people of this country it’s as if they
are belonging to my family if we have
the sentiments those people are bad
those people are those we are great I
think we are doing a great service to
the values which emerge from the freedom
movement of India and which are
enshrined in the Constitution of India
with this appeal I want you to look
inside that all religions morality of
all really
Asians must be respected principles of
liberty equality fraternity must be
respected and we should dream of a
society where human rights of each and
every section of society is equally
respected thank you very much
[Applause] [Music]
streets in the field of technology all
around but there are certain issues
because of which our social progress has
been stalled halted and these issues
emerge from the arena of our society
which unfortunately have derived some
notions from the past some
misconceptions because of which lot of
divisions have been created in the
society
now these divisions which have been
created in the society in the name of
region in the name of religion in the
name of language they’re coming as a big
obstacle for our progress towards a
better society we all know India has
made a long journey from Kingdom’s
feudal society to the industrial society
and in that last many decades the type
of journey we have made is really
phenomenal at the same time we are
seeing that in the society lot of focus
lot of distraction is coming in the name
of divisive issues which have not
anything to do with the social progress
these divisive issues actually lead to
violence and this violence is basically
founded on hatred towards certain
sections of society now how is this
hatred generated this hatred is
generated by using something from the
past something from medieval history
something from the pattern of society
something from the global world so I
will focus myself on couple of things
which I think we can overcome to make
our society better for example from the
medieval times the things which are
taken up that okay there are some kings
who were very bad some Kings who were
very good so recently I came across lot
of things about one great king of India
his name is Maharana Pratap
of course Kings have been good Kings
have been bad Kings have one religion
good Kings bad Kings etcetera etcetera
but the pattern which has emerged in
South Asia
unfortunately that for example in
Pakistan
it is only Muslim Kings who are great
Hindu Kings are non-existent or covered
here there is other image just upwards
of that where the Muslim kings are
looked as villain and that comes up over
and over again I was talking about Rana
Pratap
now did Rana Pratap fight for religion
did he fight against Akbar are Muslim
Kings for the sake of religion for the
sake of Hindu community and what that I
would like to understand along with you
now the battle between Rana Pratap and
Akbar took place in the ground of
colleague hearty in Rajasthan please
note in Rajasthan Hal Ducati there are
better armies of Akbar on one side Rana
Pratap on the other surprisingly in
adverse army up were himself is missing
and in place of Akbar the person who’s
leading the army his name is Raja maan
Singh and gravimon Singh is assisted by
many Muslim generals who are working
under him so please see the composition
of this army
there are Hindus as well as Muslims in
Akbar’s army Rana Pratap on this side he
has a general one of the important
generals called Hakim consu so I try to
understand with you on this side also
there are Hindus are also there they’re
Muslims are also there so please tell me
this battle between Akbar and Rana
Pratap is it a battle between Hindus or
Muslims or is it a battle between two
kings it is a battle between two kings
is it you’re better for religion or is
it for power it’s a power and we are
mistakenly saying our great Rana Pratap
and evil Akbar etc etcetera those sort
of things come up when I am talking of
this I have also reminded two more
things about Aqaba I hope you know all
that Akbar had nine jewels no ratna’s in
his durbar two of these nor applause who
were very important in Akbar skort they
were Hindus please try to recall those
names and bill Belleville will instantly
strike your mind what will not strike
your mind immediately is a more
important King
his name is Raja toward Armel why I
think Roger total world is more
important than verbal because Raja told
Berto dermal in Akbar scold was doing
the same thing which mr. arun jaitley is
doing today in Modi circuit so you can’t
have a more important code here
and this is what we see is that that now
same thing which we when we talk about a
cover of course there are other Kings
also who we may not be as good and in a
course clear case I remind you another
thing in upwards Castle please note in
adverse castle there was a temple yes or
no yes which God’s temple was there Lord
Sri Krishna and when Christian much to
me was celebrated Akbar was
participating in that or by cutting that
he was participating that number one now
I come to our own merits in our
Maharashtra we had a very great king
who’s very much revered by most of the
people of Maharashtra you can guess his
name is Chatrapathi Shivaji Maharaj we
all know because of a railway station
Shivaji our Airport Shivaji our one Appa
Shubin Appa so anyway we Shivaji is
everywhere we respect him a lot but some
people try to tell us that he was NT
Muslim I must tell you
Shivaji respected all religions equally
and I’ll give the evidence of that there
is a very popular story in Maharashtra
where people try to bring in violence
between Hindus and Muslims in the name
of battle of Shivaji with Afzal Khan
they try to present as if a Hindu
Shivaji has killed Afzal Khan but the
story is totally different let me tell
you when Shivaji was going to meet of
Sal Khan he was going without any
armaments and one of his bodyguards told
him that don’t go without armaments and
the name of that bodyguard of Shivaji
was Rustom h’mong Shivaji had 18
bodyguards with him 12 of those gaudí
bodyguards were Muslims
she was his confidential secretary was
Maulana Hagar Ali and in Shivaji’s army
there are 12 generals who were in charge
of his cannon division who was in charge
of his Navy who were Muslims ibrahim gar
the city symbol Dalek Caan all these are
the generals of Shivaji so this is the
Shivaji side no Shivaji on the advice of
this bodyguard wears those iron claws
which we called burgnik in Hindi he goes
and when he goes there Afzal Khan
attacks him Shivaji kills him business
magnate and when Shivaji kills him at
that time of Sal Khan’s secretary comes
out takes out his sword and tries to
kill Shivaji the name of this secretary
please remember was Krishnaji Bhaskar
Kulkarni so again I want to ask you is
it a question of Hindu Muslim or is it a
battle for power battle for power and we
are all very mistaken great Hindu Kings
versus evil Muslim kings and that’s what
we’re I also won’t like to bring in
another king from South India because we
are missing South India in the whole
story and there are the king named
Tipu Sultan from last many years people
are saying our triple Sudan
such a tyrant he converted so many
killed so many Brahmins he did this he
did that so I must tell two particular
incidents about Tipu Sultan once
Murata armies went to attack Tipu Sultan
now there was a battle between Maratha
army and Tipu Sultan and somehow Maratha
armies could not win and Tipu Sultan
could meet could not be defeated I hope
you know that in our cricket also to Mir
to create teams win sometimes there is a
draw the battle became it wrong Marathi
armies are frustrated they are coming
back and in their anger they destroy the
temple in sri ranga patnam please note
Marathi arm is destroying a temple and
that temple was restored by Tipu Sultan
now why America is armies destroyed
temple are they against Hinduism or the
insulting Hinduism no they are insulting
Tipu Sultan and why does Tipu Sultan get
it repaired because he no king can rule
unless he respects the sentiments of his
people similarly people say Tipu Sultan
killed so many Brahmins of course there
are records are like that in British
custody I’ll tell you the reason for
that also but
basically doubt that why I doubt that
because the chief advisor of Tipu Sultan
was a person called
por una y por una Y ax was he Hindu he
was a Bremen with pornea as the Prime
Minister of Tipu Sultan would he dare to
kill others just for the sake of
conversion I’ll come to the question of
conversion before that let me tell you
Tipu Sultan was so respectful of Shankar
Acharya of Khan ChiCom koti beetle that
he used to address as Java guru he gave
lot of donation to string Gary mutt
etcetera etcetera so here we come to the
question of why why temples were
destroyed
please note friends temples were
destroyed temples were destroyed by
Hindu Kings temples were destroyed by
Muslim kings but why why to insert the
religion not at all there are two major
reasons I am just summarizing one was
temples where repositories of wealth yes
or no they were repositories are there
all today also repository sometimes I
feel if the social problems have to be
solved all these when theories can be
used for the poor people 90% of the
problems will be solved anyway I am not
in a position of power
so I ignore that point so tempers are
destroyed we talked about Mohammed’s
destroying Somnath temple when mu
because Noah’s coming to Somnath temple
on his way there were hundreds of
temples he did not touch them why
because they did not have wealth and
what was in saamne so not had the wealth
of 151 crores of rupees in the fount of
form of 20000 golden dinars so there
lies the crew
similarly recently in Delhi in name of a
role was changed I am NOT supporting any
king please note I am against kingdoms I
want the best of democracy so road of
the name was chain ore Ang’s a very bad
of course I know before I go I describe
him further once I happened to be go to
Pakistan eight years ago for a seminar
don’t worry I came back safe now there I
asked them who is a greatest king who
has ruled this part of the country this
world was of course Aurangzeb same or
renege looked at
in one light there another light here of
course he once destroyed happen to
destroy kashi vishwanath temple reasons
are multiple I’ll not go into that but
at the same time there is a book by dr.
vision Bernard Pandey which tells us how
many temple donations were given by
Aurangzeb three of the temples as remind
you one is in karate near Gua t
Kamaka Devi temple in know Jane mahakaal
temple in Uttar Pradesh when Dhawan Lord
Krishna’s temple three places he gave
heavy donations so as rational people we
should think why was he just a temple
destroyer or was he also giving it a
donation to the temple similarly we
think that Islam very bad Muslim kings
came on the horseback sword in one hand
Quran in the other and they spread Islam
let me tell you friends religions are
not spread by kings every rule as the
exception as I say religions are not
spread by kings at the same time I will
say there is a very noble exception to
this rule one of the kings from India
who became Buddhist later on sent all
his propagators to spread the religion
he was only King Emperor Ashok who
spread his religion other kings spread
power let’s be very fundamental about it
so how does Islam come into into India
of course there are some Muslim kings
who threatened their rivals that you had
religion otherwise I’ll kill you that
those cases are there but by and large
the if Muslim Kings were to convert the
population here Hindus would not have
been left after seven hundred years of
rule of the Muslim kings so first I
again I’ll let you
Islam Islam first came to India not
through Muslim kings it came in eighth
century much before the Muslim invaders
came in North India it came on the
Malabar Coast through the Arab traders
and you will be surprised to know that
first mosque which came up in India was
on the Malabar Coast its name is
chariman juma mosque and similarly
Viveca nun and other great people tell
us that it was mainly to escape the cast
ironies that many people converted to
Islam under the under the influence of
Sufi sense while we are talking of this
Hindu Muslim Hindu Muslim issue let me
tell you the greatest contribution to
Indian culture has been from all
religions
I am very sincere about it that Indian
culture is a mix there are contributions
from Islam their contributions from
Hinduism the highest form of this
contribution comes in two great
traditions of India one of the
traditions is what we call bhakti
tradition represented by Kabir
Tukaram Namdeo nursey Mehta and the
other tradition is that of a Sufi
tradition Nizamuddin Auliya khwaja garib
nawaz please I like to request you to
think that docta saints were followed
not just by Hindus they’re followed by
Hindus as well as Muslims and people
from all religions throng the Sufi saint
Durga so basically what I am trying to
say that because of these misconceptions
of history a hatred is being generated
and hatred is the foundation based on
which violence is orchestrated and
violence is the thing which polarizes a
society we have to come back to the path
which Mahatma Gandhi showed us a which
organization showed us which the
National Movement showed us and it was
that path where Mothma Gandhi Jawaharlal
Nehru Sardar Patel leaders Ally like
this led a movement which led to the
Constitution of India giving us liberty
equality and fraternity and fraternity
basically means that we love all the
people of this country it’s as if they
are belonging to my family if we have
the sentiments those people are bad
those people are those we are great I
think we are doing a great service to
the values which emerge from the freedom
movement of India and which are
enshrined in the Constitution of India
with this appeal I want you to look
inside that all religions morality of
all really
Asians must be respected principles of
liberty equality fraternity must be
respected and we should dream of a
society where human rights of each and
every section of society is equally
respected thank you very much
[Applause] [Music]
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