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How To Succeed When You Are Underestimated | Kate & Amanda Leese | TEDxNewport


hey thanks good morning good morning

picture this

I’m sick it’s my birthday and I opened

this Easy Bake Oven which in a house of

five kids and thirty grand a year we

know this is a total grandma level

present it’s beautiful it’s pink it’s

got a nice light bulb and my sister Kate

who’s eight at the time she comes up and

she’s really watching the process and

she’s digging into how everything works

and 45 minutes later I’m meeting my

brownie and she walks up to me and she

looks me and my six-year-old eyes and

she says I can produce better results

faster she then proceeds to source all

of the candles and boxes and tinfoil and

anything she can find to create her own

Easy Bake Oven 20 minutes later she’s

eating her brownie I’m crying saying I

don’t like brownies anyway since Kate

was really little she had this idea of

the world that if she wanted something

she could create it which is why I the

little sister I got to grow up as a

human guinea pig I won point at

literally one point Kate the broomy on a

trampoline tied lines and sheets to me

on a very windy day and turned me into a

mini paraglider I think the worst was

when I woke up from a concussion

Kate leaning over me looking down saying

out loud is she dead

I promise our talk is not all about the

ways to torture your younger siblings

but what these stories really show is

that we were lucky not just lucky to

still be alive we were lucky to grow up

in a home where we could take risks we

could make bold ambitious declarations

build new things and embrace whatever

messy results that followed yes there

were some bumps and bruises along the

way and some concussions and maybe some

knocked out front teeth but we were so

lucky that no matter what our crazy

ideas we had a safe place to explore

them when we were little

our ideas were valuable until proven

otherwise this is a far cry from the

workforce and the world that we all find

ourselves in today it seems like every

day at work you are more likely to be

underestimated and undervalued than to

have your ideas and your goals taken

seriously this can have a huge impact on

how you see yourself and your ambition

but the good news is the opposite is

also true

when people are assumed to be valuable

they often rise to the occasion we see

so many examples of this in the research

and in life my favorite example

especially because this is one of our

grandmother’s that was the Rosie the

Riveter we actually have both

grandmothers that were Rosie the

riveters women before the war

we’re told that they should stay home or

take a handful of women’s jobs and yet

during the war women were told they were

capable of helping the United States win

the war they went from 1% of the

aircraft industry to 65% of that

workforce in just a few short years they

told themselves that we can do it and

they did being given the space to take

risks and knowing what you’re capable of

can change your life and we understand

that this sense of possibility it might

be foreign to a lot of you particularly

if you’ve joined a workforce that has

made it their personal mission to beat

the optimism out of you or as one of my

former bosses used to jokingly say the

beatings will continue until morale

improve but honestly what frustrates us

so much is that we live in this time

where there has never been more

potential we have all of this technology

and the sense of connectedness and yet

there has never been a time where there

is more portals for people to shoot you

down or make you feel invaluable and it

is not just that people say mean things

right

we all have thick skin you have thick

skin

what’s really heartbreaking is that

people are actually under estimating

each other that means that they think

you are lower in value or influence or

ability than you actually are we all

know what this feels like you could be

the youngest guy at a company where you

are the new kid until you have been

there for 10 years

or you might be the only woman in the

room at all like my friends who said if

I lean any further in I will fall over

and she was still not getting that

promotion or maybe you just don’t look

like any of the leadership in your

organization we feel this on a really

personal level I don’t know if you’ve

noticed but Kate and I we are both women

and if that’s not enough we have worked

in very male-dominated spaces so it’s

something that we’ve felt almost on a

daily basis and the funniest part about

what she just said is that it still

catches me off guard I I was jet sitting

around for work the other day I rocked

all my meetings I came home at 2:00 in

the morning on a red-eye feeling

exhausted and feeling so good about my

life and my abilities and the next

morning I go into the dry cleaner I hand

this woman my suit and she looks at me

and she says does he like his shirt

starch and I went from feeling like I

was on top of the world to feeling like

my own dry cleaner does not take me

seriously because of how I look and I

get it

I might not look like the typical

emergency manager and she might not look

like the typical ship captain and you

might not look like the typical CEO so

guess what you should all probably just

start expecting to be underestimated

and I’m not saying that’s right it’s

actually really unfair and it’s awful

but as long as you believe that being

underestimated doesn’t change your real

value or influence or ability which also

means that being underestimated isn’t

the whole problem it is not the whole

problem the problem is what you let it

do to you and in a time when everyone is

I’m hitting everyone else I know that

owning your value can feel like a

rebellious act but owning your value can

also put you so far ahead of the curve

because when you’re different you have a

spotlight and you can let that spotlight

shine on you and it can make you feel

really small or you can walk into that

spotlight and use it to have your ideas

heard this isn’t easy this actually

takes a lot of practice and

determination and grit but you can do it

because the ambition and goals they come

with risk and while you may not have

grown up an environment that embraces

either of those things we still want you

to be successful right now and so we

have compiled three messages from our

mother if you want to succeed when

you’re underestimated message number one

you yes you can do anything that you set

your mind to and it can be something big

or it can be something that’s really

tough or god forbid we set our minds to

doing something that we actually like to

do if I can literally start in a teeny

tiny town in the Midwest learn how to

captain a boat a hundred foot boat

across an ocean

fixa diesel engine and then end up

running a crew of sailors in Egypt I

think you guys can also do anything that

you want but we’ve got to set our minds

to it when we started talking about this

topic of being underestimated at work

the stories literally poured in and one

message became very clear the mindset of

those who were underestimated and

succeeded was very different than the

mindset of those who were underestimated

and felt stuck our friend put it simply

I’m young I’m short I’m Indian and I’m a

woman

she said you don’t think every single

time I walk into a room full of clients

they don’t look around like who is this

girl telling us what to do

and she’s crushing it in the tech

industry by the way and what was

interesting about

she handled the problem was it was quite

simple she actually externalize the

issue saying their opinion of my ability

is actually based on zero facts no

ability whatsoever they know nothing

about me and she would put that garbage

intentionally to the side and she would

focus on getting the job done because

she knew that she could people that are

succeeding when their us underestimated

our believing in themselves and focusing

on what they want not what they don’t

want you have to focus on what you want

versus what makes you feel comfortable

are you focusing on the jerk in the

corner of your office that’s making you

feel small and insignificant or are you

focusing and finding that great leader

that’s in front of you that you can

learn everything from are we focusing on

how we’re gonna get shot down when we

walk into negotiate our salary or are we

focusing on how great it is finally

going to feel to find a company that

appreciates our value because we our

valuable you’ve got to set your mind as

a first step on what she wants and get

rid of all that other junk and focus on

what you want as a first step and that

brings us to point number two message

number two I’m doing it anyway

when we were little my mom had five kids

and my dad had five kids

yes we’re we’re all around the kitchen

table and my mom is teaching me how to

write my ABCs so we’re practicing our

letters and my sister over here who is

two at the time she keeps coming up and

interrupting us and my mom is like

nicely dismissing her you know and my

sister guess what she doesn’t like to be

dismissed very much and so Amanda

actually goes over to the counter grabs

a pot comes back over throws it on the

floor stomps her foot at my mother and

says I want to make an A my mom just

looks at the rest of us and says it is

time to teach the baby how to write and

the lesson of this story is that you

have to tell the world what you are

ready for

and you’re going to be told no and

you’re going to be told not now and you

have to figure out a way to do it anyway

since throwing a pot is probably not the

right approach in a lot of situations

find a different approach learn a better

one surround yourself with information

and knowledge and wisdom and experience

the wisdom that surrounds you is

absolutely everything when you don’t

know how to make an A find someone who

does

learn what you can from them and figure

out how to just keep moving and we’re

not saying that earning your stripes is

ever going away and I think we can

probably all agree we don’t want it to

because putting in the work and the time

is absolutely necessary and what’s

equally as necessary is believing when

you do you deserve to have a seat at the

table because the thing is once you’ve

owned and earned your stripes you are

allowed to use them I think we women as

a group are the worst at this I think

we’re pretty terrible at it actually

guess what year women started earning

more master’s degrees than men 1987 30

years ago women started earning more

master’s degrees than men and women

continued to earn more masters and

bachelor’s and doctors degrees every

year and yet we still meet a woman every

week that does not feel as qualified as

the man sitting next door you are more

than likely every bit as qualified as

the man sitting next to you that is why

you’re sitting next to each other and if

more women can earn these degrees why do

we still feel like it is a stretch to

not have the same number of women

holding Senate seats and running fortune

500 companies we all need to tell the

world what we’re ready for and that

brings us to our third and final and

potentially most important thing our

mother used to say to us it is a good

thing that you’re tough when I was

little and I’d fall down and I’d scrape

my knee instead of my mom picking me up

and saying oh honey are you okay she

used to pick me up and say oh honey

is a good thing you’re tough failure and

criticism are inevitable unfortunately

those things are never going to go away

and that is when we need to tell

ourselves it is a good thing we’re tough

and we also need to foster the self of

confidence inside of us especially when

we’re being underestimated and told we

can’t and psychologists tell us in order

to have a base to build our

self-confidence we have to believe one

simple thing

your actions influence your result

that’s it

your actions influence your results in

other words and this is really exciting

it means that you are in charge of

designing your life as you move forward

through it it’s probably the most

exciting thing that we can think of and

you know what sometimes this is not easy

because it means you have to take

massive action in a different direction

to get the results that you want when I

was sailing through Pacific I ended up

in a hurricane and I remember thinking a

couple things number one I’m really

scared

it was pretty messy for me and number

two I thought if I ever get home again

I’m never gonna sail again just this is

you know this is not good for me

so when I arrived limping back to shore

I did not make it to my destination I

felt this spotlight more than ever

because the people that were around me

that didn’t think I could do it that did

not think I was capable of making it

they were not thinking I was appropriate

age to run that type of program they

were actually right because I did not

make it I failed and that’s when I

remember my mom telling me she’s here

it’s a good thing you’re tough and so I

packed my bags and two days later I left

for the ocean

and when I made my destination the

second time there was something really

magical about that you all will have

your own worst storm and you will be

criticized and you will fail and that is

when you need to tell yourself it’s a

good thing I’m tough and take a step

forward again because that is where you

will experience true growth yes it would

have been easier for Amanda to have

probably just not gotten back on the

boat and it would have been easier for

our mothers who have underestimated my

abilities to build an easy bake oven and

it would have been easier for our

grandmothers to have stayed home rather

than building machine guns and airplanes

during the war but can you imagine what

the world would be like if everyone’s

mother and sister and co-worker and

supervisor told them that they could do

anything they set their minds to as we

work towards that future you have to

remember you can do anything you set

your mind to but you have to focus on

what you want and you have to tell the

world what you’re ready for you’re still

going to be underestimated I’m sorry

you’re still going to be underestimated

but you can walk into the room with this

attitude that they will only

underestimate me once surround yourself

with people you can learn from and when

you get knocked down remember it is a

good thing you’re tough you can say on

our knees Lydia we know she is going to

be a world changer and we are excited

about the possibility that she will not

be underestimated for being a woman that

walks into a boardroom or in to perform

surgery like her doctor dad we cannot

wait until the men and the women in her

generation no longer undervalue each

other but rather work together to create

a bigger and brighter future thank you

[Applause] you

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