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How art and science collaborate, intervene and innovate | Claudia Schnugg | TEDxLinz


today I will talk to you about

collaborations between artists and

scientists I will talk why they should

take place and how they work and as I’m

an organizational researcher by training

I will talk to you about this from an

organizational studies Lance so if there

are some question marks now I can

reassure you that’s totally normal so I

think by now my parents and some of my

dearest friends don’t know what it’s

exactly is what I’m making my living off

and what it’s exactly good for but I

accept the challenge and take this

opportunity to make an explanation so

shortly it’s very simple I help artists

and scientists to collaborate and to

learn from each other to reach their

shared goals they individually approach

through our science

so these shared goals are very complex

topics so we talked here about things

like climate change antibiotic

resistance or the secrets of our

universe so it seems a no-brainer

artists and scientists people from very

different backgrounds with different

knowledge and skills have to collaborate

so that we know that we get a better

knowledge about this so that we

understand these topics and sometimes

it’s just the effect of having

interesting conversations

confrontational discussions and having

fun that leaves three greatest outcomes

so why exactly are in science so artists

and scientists are both creative

individuals they want to push the

boundaries of our knowledge they want to

push these topics that are so important

first as society and as individuals so

love less they do this without or

science so it seems completely far apart

thinking about arts most people think

about paintings drawings

music occurs to some and something about

me at Connecticut so that’s all what

we’re talking about we also talk about

poetry and other things like performance

and theater but these people creating

these artworks live in a certain

environment so they don’t have this

normal a nine-to-five job others in an

office would experience and they have to

deal with this crazy art market where

many people earn clothes nothing and

others immense amounts of money but you

also know there’s a lot of skill and

training necessary that you can trade

such an important artwork so for example

if somebody would ask you to create a

Mona Lisa or to write an important tune

you certainly would say oh maybe that’s

not what I’m trained in and thinking

about training you also think about

science so you think about scientific

outcomes like the theory of relativity

where you also need a specific training

you also probably think about

laboratories microscopes and telescopes

and experiments being done and again you

think about these people creating this

amazing work that walk around in

laboratory coats do experiments think

about their data and have this special

training whether you know how to talk to

their peers and conferences to talk

about their outcomes and where they

interact in universities and

corporations with a scientific

department so I don’t want to push the

stereotypes too far but there are

certain differences between the routines

and organizational structures between

art and science that create a different

normal for these people so they have a

different understanding of what are

their goals their individuals goals what

they have to do to reach a certain

career goal and this is important when

it comes

the collaboration between artists and

scientists because normally when we

understand our world through our

practices routines and organizational

structures

this also frames how we would then ask

new questions with whom we would

collaborate in our next project and how

we would approach that but at the same

time we know that new experiences

openness and completely different views

can lead to the greatest outcomes and

what actually creates more exciting

experience than the collision of art and

science the clash of these two different

walls so what interests us now is how it

came to this or this so what we are

seeing here are artworks that came out

of this collaboration between artists

and scientists these are works the title

in topics like climate change new

technologies what can we do with them or

habitable planets outside of our solar

system so what I do here and what

happens in art science collaboration

processes is that artists and scientists

was there different normal get together

and have to to think about their issues

together from their different point of

views so these different point of views

come from their different perspectives

and these different perspectives

Namah training as organizational

researcher comes in quite handy are

analyzed through organizational studies

because organizational research asks how

do structures routines and purchases

frame our understanding of what is

normal to us and it’s for that it uses

tools and theories from fields like

psychology philosophy sociology called

for studies or an apology and now I want

to go to some concrete examples of that

so first of all we again have these

different structures these different

routines so these lead to different

career goals so scientists has to act

differently as an artist although they

want to reach maybe the same goal talk

about climate change so a scientist has

to work analytically on a very specific

topic whereas an artist can approach a

topic from a completely different way

they can draw from many different fields

and bring us together to make the field

or the topic experienceable

when we now talk about a collaboration

this mix can create an important step in

contextualization of the work being done

about thinking about implications of the

scientific work as an chemists told me

that this collaboration with the artist

helped him to understand his own work

differently because he works and does

something very specific he would not

have thought about the value for society

that his work brings with it so he now

understands there is a volume outside

the scientific community and this seems

like something very small but actually

it’s something really important because

this is has this creates meaning for the

scientists and it creates motivational

and inspirational aspects so it also

frames which next questions at which

next research questions are approached

and another example is that Earth

Science collaborations can help to

create a space to break free from

organizational structures so like in

this case here using an anthropological

term it creates a liminal space so it

creates a space where we are free to

experiment free from root

and peer pressure that allows us to

playfully work with what we have with

the tools and the technologies so that’s

what happened here too so that we just

created completely new devices another

important aspect are raising ethical

questions so artists getting in contact

and working with scientists can start to

raise these important questions about

how to read eel and what do we think of

our of our consumption of leather and

meat and what would you think about

about it if we grew it artificially and

then there is another communication

aspect I want to talk about it’s the

communication between different fields

of science but also with the public this

project deals with antibiotic resistance

it asks where is it coming from where

did it start in our society and can we

cut it out of our bacterial genome with

newest technological possibilities in

science and this is a very important

tool to talk between these disciplines

but also to communicate this with the

public there is one last example I want

to give from a theoretical perspective

and it’s on sense-making processes and

its connections to aesthetics we all

know that we make our sense of the world

through our senses we see it we feel it

we hear it and at the same time

scientists are supposed to be very

analytical very rational but they also

make sense of the world and of the data

together with their scientific tools

through their senses so they create a

very specific way to look at their data

but we also know that in in normal

understanding aesthetics is more

connected to art and that new aesthetic

experiences help us to create a complete

or to see the world in a complete

light so X mala gist once told me that

his engagement in music helped him to

see his data completely differently to

reinterpret it from a different point of

view to get a different feeling for it

which then helped him in his further

analysis so these are just a few

examples there are more more examples

with these different theoretical lenses

but also talking about other theoretical

lenses like social networking theory I

think again it looks like a no-brainer

if you have many different people coming

together different of different

information

you hate ins there’s the chance for

inspiration and new possibilities so

basic idea behind this is when we expand

what is normal for us through getting in

contact with people who have a

completely different environment and

live in a completely different normal we

are able to approach proper problems in

a completely different way maybe we are

able to solve them or even to pass them

by so in that sense as it has set the

environment for every project is

different so every project has its

different development but there are a

few things that are true for all of them

and these four things are time not to be

afraid

freedom and funding so first of course

you need time to engage in the others

normal to dive into this new world to

experience it and to to live and

investigate it but this willingness to

dive into this world and this new

experience also helps us to get over the

fear to cross these boundaries so don’t

be afraid don’t be afraid of the

scientific jargon you might be provided

with in a scientific discipline or with

complex context and

artwork might show you if you’re not

afraid you are able to dive into this

new world and to learn to learn about

the field but also to learn about

yourself and third you’ve got freedom so

freedom stands for it’s important for us

to be allowed to dive into this world

without fearing negative consequences in

our professional life or fearing

negative critique from our peers and

third funding so our science

collaborations can be quite costly

people need to take time they are

scientists and artists involved and

probably somebody who facilitates it in

helps and there’s materials needed and

experiments being done and of course as

it has said there is something happening

afterwards but it’s not for an

immediately scientifically or

economically valuable outcome so this

brings us to the third logics the third

logics of business and governments money

and taxes so you are all allowed to ask

why should I with my tax money fund such

an experimentation of artists and

scientists where we cannot say that we

immediately have a valuable outcome or

why should a corporation do this invest

in something that does not immediately

lead to something that can be sold or

that promises innovation in a certain

time frame so for that I can only say

some steps small steps can be planned

can be anticipated we can work towards

that but paradigm-shifting approaches

often came without announcement and as

science shows those people engaged in as

many fields as possible with an

experience in art and science as those

more likely to bring about such change

so if we want this we have to support it

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