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Growing up and waking: spiralling to deeper inclusion. | Jonathan Dover | TEDxFindhornSalon


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I think that there are problems emerging
around the world at the moment and
especially in Western societies that
cannot be solved by ideas just from the
left or just from the right the first
little bit of introduction I’m going to
give is from a book that can will
besides to give some insight about human
how does human consciousness actually
emerge he uses a book called Zen at war
this book details and the collusion
between some Japanese Zen priests and in
the invasion of China during the Second
World War
these the action of these priests will
be described today certainly as
nationalistic and probably quite racist
these priests were very advanced
meditation practitioners how do those
two things sit together it was quite a
spiritual conundrum the solution came
when the realization arrived that
spiritual development has two distinct
streams one of growing up and one of
waking up the waking up stream is the
development of states of consciousness
and often comes with practices from the
east so with lots of meditation
hopefully we can get out of our gross
waking state and to say witnessing stage
and hopefully if we’re very lucky get
into some non-duality but this also goat
runs alongside the development of stages
of consciousness and this was discovered
by Western psychologists and they found
out that human beings always have a
perceptual filter almost like a goldfish
bowl I think of it as going round their
heads which is perceiving reality and
it’s providing filters onto onto their
reality these things are very when you
start to learn about them become very
very clear when they’re in play one of
the interesting parts of these stages of
development is that these people and
doing a lot of meditation even in deep
states of men
tation these stages of consciousness
cannot be perceived because they’re
being seen through rather than being
seen at they are the very water that
we’re swimming in so let’s look at em
professor graves model he published
research that showed that human
consciousness develops in relationship
with life conditions with nature if you
like what he shows was say for example a
hundred thousand years ago that life
conditions gave us a set of problems a
though set of problems meant that human
beings had to descent to develop a set
of ideas in a mental model to solve
those problems now over time this model
n the set of ideas without changing the
set of ideas is operating on its
environment as its operating on its
environment
it’s literally changing its own life
conditions and over time those same
ideas will start to manifest a new set
of more complex problems problems be
purple and that will ensure that
consciousness again has to emerge to a
new level to meet those conditions the
old sets of ideas don’t go away they
don’t disappear but they do get
transformed by the new set of ideas so
let’s have a look at these levels in a
bit more detail so a hundred thousand
years ago we’ve got the what’s termed
the page level it’s very indistinct ‘iv
humans at this level would just come out
of being primates and it’s just and
there’s no real sense of self at all at
this stage it’s just responding to
tension in the body so traveling around
often in herds of say about ten to
fifteen but it still been very
individualistic within those herds this
is not a group a group stage as yet and
so it feels feels hunger feels the
tension of hunger so I go and gather
fruits and berries from the forest I
feel the tension of being cold so we’re
going to find a cave to take some
shelter in
and being still acting very individually
it means that there’s still life
conditions happening to it that are very
risky so there’s animals out there that
are dangerous to me as an individual
there’s also there’s a lack of access to
sex for the tension of sex and for
reproduction of the species as well so
these sort of drives in the life
conditions about fifty thousand years
ago we see the evidence of the first
tribes coming together the safety and
security and notice we’ve gone from an
individual level to one which is much
more about group cohesion and focus on
this this needs of safety and security
at purple at Bayes there was no real
sense of spirituality at all purple it
really emerges massively and it emerges
in a way that everything has spirits the
stones have spirits the trees have
spirits and they all must be honored
they must be placated to make sure that
our food supply comes in this level is
intensely superstitious when when this
kind of ghost goes forward and the
rituals are taking place the rituals are
being run by the elders the elders make
sure that these are maintained again
going over time people start to lose
well what what why was that original
there was this ritual created we can’t
actually really realize the route and
when we start to get situations in the
tribe that food is threatened maybe
there’s been a flood or a drought and
the elders are saying more ritual more
ritual the young people in that church
in that tribe were saying the more
ritual isn’t doing it I I need to self
express there’s another way of going
here we can go and go to that tribe down
the river we can take their food and so
we get the emergence of the next level
of human consciousness the red power
level all about action and we’ll this is
the full birth of the egocentric self
and this is a very bloody an era in
their humanity
and that as this level emerges the
people are stepping out of the safety
and security of the
the world looks a very very hostile
place but the more willpower that they
give to it this is a world of winners
and losers so I’m going to step forward
here and take what I want and I live for
today in this level it’s no long-term
planning here it’s all about reward now
and so this continues on we you can see
this in in human history and you can
still see it around around today of
course this level still it’s still in
place we have things like a tiller the
horn and and of course it does bring
more people together each one of these
levels does actually bring more
wholeness this brings more trying to
bigger times bigger tribes together the
first cities start to emerge to but it
but again the people leading it it gets
very it gets very bloody and I think the
bloodiness comes closer and closer to
them they start to realize actually to
control greater numbers of people we
need real really strong rules and they
need to be imposed very powerfully and
that’s when we get the emergence about
5,000 years ago of the first blue level
so again we’ve gone from intensely
individualistic back to a group
consciousness and this really happened
first of all with the the Egyptians and
it’s very interesting that the Egyptians
built the pyramids and of course this
level creates that pyramidical structure
it starts to understand that one of the
weaknesses of red is the success of red
is only related to the effective life
span of that charismatic leader where as
blue suddenly realized actually if you
create a pyramidical structure and you
have these elite families in the in the
top and you create lines whereby
everyone’s got some someone ready to
replace them you can suddenly start to
create much longer-term projects and so
blue is much much much more a long-term
thinking and again receipt we see
they’ve just been having a presentation
that mentioned this religious level
still very prevalent in society and this
at this level as well there’s a huge
breakthrough internally with their human
beings professor Robert Keane is saying
that consciousness
picked orally at the center of our being
and it’s as we develop as human beings
it’s about taking greater and greater
developmental spaces so that we can take
more and more perspectives on things
that blue is the first breakthrough into
to developmental spaces internally with
that it brings the capacity to actually
love somebody else
and it also brings the capacity for
guilt because we can literally put
ourselves pictorially into somebody
else’s shoes this this breakthrough
starts comes forward as well and the the
shadow side of it starts to manifest as
this structure and order is imposed and
what you get towards the end of it is
male-dominated hierarchical power
structures as well and if you’re a
peasant in a blue society and you’ve got
loads of talent
you’re gonna stay a peasant there’s not
much that this this pyramid is very very
rigid and so frustration builds up in in
these societies and it starts to be
breakthroughs and people like Copernicus
start to to question oh is the earth at
the center of this solar system or is it
the Sun and these brakes who start to
come forward and and the scientific
method of finding truth starts to come
forward the truth before at that that
religious lever is very absolute istic
it’s all about the book about the one
true way the one true way the religious
level comes out of that bloody level it
creates a lot of peace through these
rules but it certainly comes up against
other groups who say we’ve got the one
true way as well and of course there
can’t be two true ways so you also start
to get a lot of warfare between between
much bigger groups at this point as well
and again you can see this this identity
this is all about and identifying with
my group there’s there’s still slavery
at this level as well so that if you’re
not identified with my chosen group if
you’ve got a different way I can
literally treat you like an animal you
just don’t mean anything to me and so
this this come coming forward in terms
of another developmental space opening
up with
this with the the finding of truth with
science and rationality starts a
breakthrough with the European
enlightenment starts a cat catch-up with
the Industrial Revolution and this
orange machine starts to emerge the
orange level of consciousness all about
rationality achievement and this starts
to go round the world and it’s using up
resources where wherever it goes and it
provides it actually does provide a lot
of wealth and of course scientific truth
does also provide it overcomes a lot of
the negative sides of the previous the
previous religious M systems in all
Western countries around the world that
they decide to break through to orange
consciousness within a hundred years all
of them banned slavery it’s a it’s a
it’s a massive step through in terms of
humanity’s journey of course this orange
this orange system provides health care
innovation lifespan of human beings
really extends we have a lot more
education as well again based on more
rationality but it towards the end of
that of course as it goes around and
using up resources and also that using
its education to just go into other
systems around the world and take their
and take their resources without
worrying about them too much and because
it’s all just about it achievement and
it starts to have it a shadow that
starts to come through in their end of
the 50s and nineteen 1960s where there’s
people saying actually this huge group
there’s that there’s a very successful
mainstream group here but this huge
groups getting marginalized in this
process and you know what their truth is
valuable too so we get start to get the
civil rights movement the gay rights
movement as well and the green worldview
starts to come through and there’s a new
sense of truth as well which again
brings greater sense of in inclusion
where truth is given at Green as being
pluralistic so it’s saying all truth is
related to context so you all have your
lives I’ve got my life
and therefore our experiences that we’ve
had means that we perceive things
differently this is what the green truth
is saying so it’s saying yeah you’ve got
your truth in I’ve got mine so that’s a
quick run through of the the tears as
they’ve emerged up to date and I hope
you’re wondering well how do we get to
this yellow system above I also hope
that you’re noticing that these these
sets of ideas come and the ideas stay
the same but they’re operating on their
life conditions and they change their
own life conditions to create the
friction the dissonance for their own
next transformation and that’s where I
think we are at at the moment
particularly in the Western world so a
little bit more detail about how that
transformation actually occurs professor
Robert Keegan from Harvard has spent 30
years researching how does
transformation occur and he came up with
something called subject/object theory
he’s saying that these lenses of
perception are so close to us as I say
we’re seeing through them all the time
rather than seeing at them and when we
go through a transformation he says the
the dissonance the shadow side becoming
aware of the shadow side pulls this lens
of perception out into awareness
eventually and it moves from subject to
be an object and that is the
transformation that’s when we have this
visceral experience of transformation
the point with it is is that you can you
can literally see it so before you know
check what we’ve checked them out there
this evening if I was to say to you and
you know what’s the shadow side of that
religious mindset yeah a lot of people
were to come up with something similar
to oh yeah you know male-dominated
hierarchical power structures and if I
was it yeah you can literally see it it
for us to say to you oh well what’s the
what’s the what’s the shadow side of
that business mindset and you might
again you might go up death well greed
bad redistribution of wealth
environmental destruction you can
literally see it because those ideas
have been pulled out there but what’s
the shadow of green so let’s look at the
it sense of truth again
so all truth is dependent on context all
truth is relative you have your truth
and I have mine can you see how they
have this kind of this has the great
power to to bring to include people to
bring feet together to be non-judgmental
first fear levels all exclude each other
very powerfully they’re not aware that
they’re part of the same developmental
pathway with each other and you can see
in the Western world the main levels at
play blue orange and green with the big
populations the big votes of blue and
orange and these worldviews are like oil
and water if you put them you put them
in a room with each other they’ll
separate themselves out quite quickly
you know they don’t like each other and
unfortunately the most exclusive of
those is green you know we all live in
this findell an area and we’ve got a lot
of people coming here and to experience
experience the community and you know
people turn up and we don’t mind about
what skin color they are we don’t mind
about their sexual orientation you know
there’s even a few wizards I’ve seen
turn off here and there welcome to
everybody’s really welcome as long as
you’re green in terms of world views
it’s not very diverse at all and he’s
very exclusive and what it gives is this
this this bit of a broken leading edge
at the moment and this this blue level
is absolutely crucial politicians all
know about this borrow dynamically these
these lens in play you can hear it in
them when they’re when they’re talking
on the television if they wanted to get
this this blue vote they’ll be talking
about thing yeah this this kind of
religious right or wrong everything’s
black and white kind of mindset it be
talking about things like strong and
stable or building a wall now they know
that this this said this blue this blue
level is up for grabs and what I want to
cover tonight is about being the
inclusion of green because in the 1960s
the the life conditions there was an
enormous amount of exclusion
really serious problems a lot of which
are still around today and green quite
rightly went about and started to solve
those fronts in help out marginalized
groups and provide conditions to help
bring them along now of course since the
financial crash has taken place there’s
actually a lot of people in society as a
whole now a lot of people still at these
red and blue live condition levels not
very pleasant place to be now there’s a
lot of people saying oh we could
actually do with a bit of that help from
from these from these and you know
charities and stuff like that and
actually green because it doesn’t quite
like their their value systems it
doesn’t like they might say well
actually you’re you’re not the right
type to receive that support and those
people might go but those people over
there again it what about me what’s
wrong with me and what happens over time
and this continues over time is that
that group of people starts to say you
know what that cosmopolitan elite up
there they don’t care about me I’m not
on their books you know they’d seem to
look after this drew but they don’t look
after me and that group starts to say I
will I will follow anyone who stands up
for my voice you start start says say or
they’ll represent me and so you start to
get this real polarization in politics
and so these these levels get to the
side and of course green is absolutely
appalled that the the politics going on
without taking any real responsibility
of its own role in that dynamic it’s the
dynamics that are important how these
movements occur it’s it’s not about
getting rid of inclusion stopping
helping people who have been having
tough times what it is about for me it’s
about really deepening our concept of
inclusion you know all these people they
need love as well it’s not just some
groups it’s other groups too
and if they keep on having their voices
slap down and say oh no you can’t say
that or we don’t like how you go about
things and stuff like that you know
they’re just going to go further the
other way you know they need to be
included they need to be heard they need
to be listened to as well another shadow
of the green world views that runs out
and money in the end it’s one of the big
factors that actually kicks it into into
really wanting to actually transform so
green has to have come out of the shadow
of orange it’s got to have experienced
that to kind of transform to green and
of course I know from my own process
going through it to give my my family a
really hard time of kind of looking
again it’s terrible look what you’re
doing to the environment you can’t can’t
you see in the course they couldn’t see
they literally can’t you know but so
Green rejects that orange level the
values of that orange level and yet
tends to run on money created at that
orange level it’s not very good in fact
it’s quite hopeless at creating its own
money yeah it’s not it’s not really what
it’s about so it runs out of money in
the end the final one here about the
shadow of green is about the Republic of
feelings and if you see here with these
levels there’s an emergence of truth
each one bringing greater and greater
wholeness so at that blue level all
truth is absolute absolute istic it’s
it’s in the book you know follow this
book and follow it to the letter
otherwise we might kill you what emerges
from that is all truth is rational we
get the the scientific method overcomes
it more powerful and then we get all
truth is relative now because the these
levels these first tier levels separate
out they don’t integrate each other you
get this all truth is relative and that
means that there is no absolute truth if
there’s no absolute truth the only truth
of God is my feelings and I’m going to
follow my my feelings and they become
very sacred my feelings and what that
does if you’ve only got your own
feelings to guide you and nothing else
it opens up the doorway for what ken
wilber call
the tag team from Hell nihilism and
narcissism so the integration needs to
come between these other sensitive truth
is well and recognizing that there is
some absolute truth too so whereas we
get up to yellow yellow is there is the
experiential realization that these
other levels first of all knowing about
the shadow of green that say that this
dissonance really focusing on the shadow
aspects just creates the a great deal of
cognitive dissonance so it starts to
empower this subject object move to
bring the old worldview act to be seen
and at yellow there’s also this
realization that the other levels each
level has got a partial truth you know
if it needs integrating it’s got each
one’s got a partial truth it’s got a
good B in fact usually it’s got lots of
gifts and it’s got shadow a little bit
of shadow aspect as well so this
movement to yellow is all all about
discernment like it’s made like looking
down at the level saying yeah that beads
good idea I clearly need to earn money
but it also it harnesses all those lower
pieces not for their own purpose it all
it’s it’s very much focused on putting
in the health of the spiral path way of
serving Humanity of serving that spiral
spiral journey for others so it’s made
it needs to make money in order to go
out there to help other people to have
enough money to actually be able to help
other people and needs to have enough in
the internal structure of blue to hold
them make sure red stays under control
it needs to engage its own will to have
enough will to power through our green
have strong families and eat the right
food at beige and yet yellow has
massively more problem-solving capacity
clare graves did research into the
problem solving of people at yellow and
people at the the first-tier value
systems of red and above and the yellow
value system has more problem-solving
capacity than all the others put
together and when they studied had they
go about problems they found out that
they were they had a massive reduction
of fear he says their IQ level was quite
sick quite certain
but he says when they put them into
rooms centrally with the same complex
problems it says when they went into the
first tier thinkers first tier stinkers
kept on coming up with things that
didn’t work but we’re coming back to the
same underlying structure and he says
the people at second tier were going in
there it didn’t work with that one
structure and they did away with the
whole structure started something
completely new and when they started
interviewing them they said well that’s
how you learn you need to kind of invest
in your own failure because that’s what
helps you grow so I’m hoping that that
this movement to yellow also brings with
the the awareness of these lower value
systems allows a and you know allows the
full health of the spiral it actually
does have the capacity to create world
peace which actually green really wants
to do but it can’t because it can’t
interact with these these lower levels
it tends to reject them too much and
I’ll finish off with a quote from from
Don Beck and he says you know people
around the world are not at war with
each other world views are at war with
each other
and yellow is the first one that is
truly abundant thank you
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